Saturday, November 28, 2009

Re: [Avid-L2] The Fantastic Mr Fox

This is a really wonderful movie- Im a big fan to begin with, but we
saw it on a cinealta 4k! I don't believe the source file was 4k,
though- lots of aliasing in the FOX logo. Also, screen brightness not
very linear - but that could be a setup issue. I'll definately try
get back in that room more! (screen 8 at Landmark West LA.). Of
course, none of it mattered once the movie started. Would be
enjoyable in any format.

Greg (at) secrethq.com
Greg Huson
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iPhone

On Nov 28, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Jim Feeley <jfeeley@gmail.com> wrote:

> Stop motion has been doing stuff like this for quite a while. A few
> years
> ago "Corpse Bride" was shot on Canon EOS-1D bodies and Nikon
> lenses (through
> some adapter). At least, that's what I recall reading.
>
> All these tech shifts are pretty neato except when they're a PITA. I
> long
> for days when "clever technology" and "half-baked product/
> workflow" aren't
> spoken in the same breath.
>
> Jim
>
> On 11/28/09 10:09 PM, "IAN WILSON" <ian@colortape.tv> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "The Fantastic Mr Fox" shot entirely on 24 X Cannon and Nikon and a
> > few other brand DSLR's, the Director had access to all feeds live,
> > where ever in the world he was.
> >
> > There is a tidal wave out there, that has just left the shores of
> > Japan, hope we all know how to swim.
> >
> >
> http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/fantastic-mr-fox-movie-shot-with-nikon-d3s.htm
> >
> l
> > http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_searchlight/fantasticmrfox/
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Re: [Avid-L2] The Fantastic Mr Fox

Stop motion has been doing stuff like this for quite a while. A few years
ago ³Corpse Bride² was shot on Canon EOS-1D bodies and Nikon lenses (through
some adapter). At least, that¹s what I recall reading.

All these tech shifts are pretty neato except when they¹re a PITA. I long
for days when ³clever technology² and ³half-baked product/workflow² aren¹t
spoken in the same breath.

Jim


On 11/28/09 10:09 PM, "IAN WILSON" <ian@colortape.tv> wrote:

>
>
> "The Fantastic Mr Fox" shot entirely on 24 X Cannon and Nikon and a
> few other brand DSLR's, the Director had access to all feeds live,
> where ever in the world he was.
>
> There is a tidal wave out there, that has just left the shores of
> Japan, hope we all know how to swim.
>
>
http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/fantastic-mr-fox-movie-shot-with-nikon-d3s.htm>
l
> http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_searchlight/fantasticmrfox/
>
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> 222a Bay Street
> PORT MELBOURNE, VICTORIA 3207
> AUSTRALIA
> +61 3 9580 5098
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[Avid-L2] The Fantastic Mr Fox

"The Fantastic Mr Fox" shot entirely on 24 X Cannon and Nikon and a
few other brand DSLR's, the Director had access to all feeds live,
where ever in the world he was.

There is a tidal wave out there, that has just left the shores of
Japan, hope we all know how to swim.

http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/fantastic-mr-fox-movie-shot-with-nikon-d3s.html
http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_searchlight/fantasticmrfox/


Colortape Productions
222a Bay Street
PORT MELBOURNE, VICTORIA 3207
AUSTRALIA
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m 0418 327 082
Skype idwctp

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Re: [Avid-L2] error in MC 4.0.4 Mac

Fixed it. For some reason, when I truned off Output to DV Device in Video
Display Ssettings, everything started working normally.

Tks

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Roger Shufflebottom
<rshuff@tiscali.co.uk>wrote:

> I'll be using this config tomorrow or Monday - I'll report back.
>
> On 27 Nov 2009, at 21:51, Raj Rodrigues wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> on capturing material thru FW on my MBP/MC 4.0.4, the following line
> appears
> over the Play window at the bottom: 'No compressed data format found for
> specified VCID and video format' . In Frame view in the bin, I can see
> the
> frame but if i try and play it in the bin or in the monitor, I get the
> msg.
> Exporting as QT works normally, the QT exported is perfect aud/vid.
>
> Have trashed Settings, db files even from the Supporting Files/Avid
> MediaFiles ƒ. Re-install??
>
> Am on OS 10.6.2.
>
> TIA
>
> With best wishes,
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: Mac Smoke Official

Scott,

> switthaus wrote:
> Great worksheet. I think this just highlights the fact that setting
> up a true finishing suite, whether its FCP or McSmoke or an Avid
> product is far more than just the software.

I use that in some of the expo lectures I've done. Trying to get people out of that $5K bedroom edit suite myth.

- Oliver

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Re: [Avid-L2] Add locator WITHOUT the dialog?

At the risk of pushing yet ANOTHER of my books, check out Focal Press'
"Avid Xpress Pro and DV On the Spot." (Was released by CMP Books)

Despite the title, most of the tips are good for almost any version of
Media Composer or even Symphony. I just checked out random pages for a
few minutes and didn't see one tip that didn't also apply to Media
Composer.

The On The Spot series from Focal was Richard Harrington's brainchild,
I believe. It's a VERY cool series of books about many different
pieces of software. Basically the concept is a non-linear book. You
don't read it from start to finish. Each book has several hundred
short tips (I call it "bathroom reading.") so you can just open the
book up to a random page, read for 30 seconds and you have probably
learned something new. The longest tips are a page long, and some are
three tips to a page. There are On The Spot books for After Effects,
Final Cut Pro, and Broadcast Graphics.

Moving keyframes or "4:3 safe title in 16:9" is just proof that
there's no telling what kind of "gap" someone has in their knowledge.
So you may know SOME of the tips in the book, but I'd say that even an
experienced Avid editor will get 100 new tips out of it. And it's a
relatively low-cost title.

Basil Pappas and Steve Cohen's manual from the early 1990s is the one
that really got me going on getting the most out of the Avid UI.

On Nov 27, 2009, at 11:57 AM, guanacaa@aol.com wrote:

> I learned a bunch of little tricks because I used to teach a tips
> and techniques class. Otherwise, I'm sure there's a decent book out
> there. Basil Pappas?
> Shirley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Degan <DennyD1@verizon.net>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Nov 27, 2009 8:17 am
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Add locator WITHOUT the dialog?
>
> On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Christopher Pitbladdo wrote:
>
> > Before yesterday, I'd put a new keyframe in the place where I'd like
> to have moved the old one to, then deleted the original keyframe...
> I'm
> willing to bet good money there's SOME task that can be done more
> easily than the way you currently do it Dennis.
>
> I say:
>
> I can guarantee it . . . . ;)
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] 4:3 safe title in a 16:9 window

I figured it out myself about 2 minutes after I posted the original
message. I posted that too. Thanks for helping though.

On Nov 26, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Christopher Pitbladdo wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> Did you have any joy with this?
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> On 23 Nov 2009, at 18:19, Steve Hullfish wrote:
>
>> Any ideas how I display a 4:3 center cut safe title grid in a 16:9
>> window?
>>
>> In other words, I'm sending a 16:9 master to a TV station who will
>> center cut the broadcast for 4:3 viewers and show the whole 16:9 to
>> those who can see it.
>>
>> So I need all of my lower thirds and bugs to display inside of a
>> center cut 4:3 safe title. How can I see where I need to put those
>> center cut graphics?
>>
>> I have not done a search or anything, which I am about to do, but was
>> hoping someone could RTFM for me in the meantime.
>>
>> My apologies for being lazy.
>>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] error in MC 4.0.4 Mac

I'll be using this config tomorrow or Monday - I'll report back.

On 27 Nov 2009, at 21:51, Raj Rodrigues wrote:

Hi guys,

on capturing material thru FW on my MBP/MC 4.0.4, the following line
appears
over the Play window at the bottom: 'No compressed data format found for
specified VCID and video format' . In Frame view in the bin, I can see
the
frame but if i try and play it in the bin or in the monitor, I get the
msg.
Exporting as QT works normally, the QT exported is perfect aud/vid.

Have trashed Settings, db files even from the Supporting Files/Avid
MediaFiles ƒ. Re-install??

Am on OS 10.6.2.

TIA

With best wishes,

Roger Shufflebottom
Avid Certified Instructor
http://www.bottom-line.tv
Tel: +44 1992 535 031 (UK)
Mobile: +44 7973 543 660

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[Avid-L2] Xw8400 nitris visat 64 uncompressed trouble

We are running 2 symphony Nitris systems that are identical. 8400, RTR scsi
drives, Nitris classic hardware. And on Vista business 64bit . With both
systems in HD 1:1 10 bit and 8 Bit We get VDM_overrun errors when capturing.
We might capture 100+ clips successfully then find 20 clips won't capture.
They all stop about 1 sec into the capture with the above error and " expect
a green frame on the desktop" Often it is impossible to capture the faulty
clips. The only way have been to go to DNx which we don't want to do. We
have substituted every part of the systems and still get the same result.
They have the correct BIOS and drivers etc.

We think this has only happened since we upgraded to 64 bit, we certainly
never had this problem before although we might have been on 3.1 and not
3.5.4 We upgraded to the point releases including patches to try and
overcome this but no joy.

Usually this error seems to relate to drive trouble, however the drives
definitely have the right profile loaded and also as one system is Dual boot
the drives can handle DS 4:4:4 media without a hiccup, and we have done the
speed tests on the drives and all is easily OK.

So is anyone else using this configuration and does it work for you?

The release notes for this and later version say there is a problem with
this and optimizing the drives might help but as I understand it that is
referring to selecting the correct profile in the RTR using hyperterminal
which we have done.

Anyone have this or know anything about it?

Thanks

N

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[Avid-L2] Re: Mac Smoke Official

But... many people already have everything on that list... except the software.

Which brings us back to the low, low price of 30K + 2K maintenance.

Competition is good. I look forward to seeing what kind of response this will generate from all the usual suspects.

Mark

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@...> wrote:
>
> Great worksheet. I think this just highlights the fact that setting up a true finishing suite, whether its FCP or McSmoke or an Avid product is far more than just the software. Lower cost, but not low cost.
>
> sw
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@> wrote:
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > > switthaus wrote:
> > > Here is Scott Malkie's updated estimate on a start-up turnkey McSmoke suite.
> >
> > He's saying basically what I said. The only items in here that are over and above a "high-end" FCP suite are the Smoke software, Autodesk maintenance contract and the Quadro graphics card. Plus he's loaded it with a lot of other niceties that aren't required for the system to operate, such as the Dreamcolor monitors. Here's a similar FCP configuration I've done (download the spreadsheet).
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/kkzggl
> >
> > - Oliver
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[Avid-L2] Re: Mac Smoke Official

Great worksheet. I think this just highlights the fact that setting up a true finishing suite, whether its FCP or McSmoke or an Avid product is far more than just the software. Lower cost, but not low cost.

sw

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> > switthaus wrote:
> > Here is Scott Malkie's updated estimate on a start-up turnkey McSmoke suite.
>
> He's saying basically what I said. The only items in here that are over and above a "high-end" FCP suite are the Smoke software, Autodesk maintenance contract and the Quadro graphics card. Plus he's loaded it with a lot of other niceties that aren't required for the system to operate, such as the Dreamcolor monitors. Here's a similar FCP configuration I've done (download the spreadsheet).
>
> http://tinyurl.com/kkzggl
>
> - Oliver
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[Avid-L2] Re: Mac Smoke Official

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Gus <gustheeditor@...> wrote:
> you
> can't have 2 people in the same project at the same time (which blows).
>

Does DS work in an Interplay environment? - no need to be in the same project any more with that... (sooo much quicker than navigating through / opening bins).


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[Avid-L2] Re: Speaking of AMA...

It was a few months ago, but AMA worked well for us with XDCam HD 50 material.

Copied full disk structure to storage (in background) and then linked via AMA.

Overnight consolidated (native XDCam codec) the AMA bins - which put it on the Unity in a more avid friendly form.

Any sequences with XDcam cut in had a final mixdown to DNX (which is usually just about as quick as rendering and gives you a nice solid master clip) for transfer to EVS.

No problems (other than bits of clips sometimes going offline - which was fixed with a CPR that made a later release I'm sure).

Didn't have to 're-link' though so can't answer as to whether that would be a problem going forward. And we were mostly DNX native material - with about 20 XDcam discs.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Mac Smoke Official

Scott,

> switthaus wrote:
> Here is Scott Malkie's updated estimate on a start-up turnkey McSmoke suite.

He's saying basically what I said. The only items in here that are over and above a "high-end" FCP suite are the Smoke software, Autodesk maintenance contract and the Quadro graphics card. Plus he's loaded it with a lot of other niceties that aren't required for the system to operate, such as the Dreamcolor monitors. Here's a similar FCP configuration I've done (download the spreadsheet).

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[Avid-L2] error in MC 4.0.4 Mac

Hi guys,

on capturing material thru FW on my MBP/MC 4.0.4, the following line appears
over the Play window at the bottom: 'No compressed data format found for
specified VCID and video format' . In Frame view in the bin, I can see the
frame but if i try and play it in the bin or in the monitor, I get the msg.
Exporting as QT works normally, the QT exported is perfect aud/vid.

Have trashed Settings, db files even from the Supporting Files/Avid
MediaFiles ƒ. Re-install??

Am on OS 10.6.2.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Mac Smoke Official

Here is Scott Malkie's updated estimate on a start-up turnkey McSmoke suite. This includes almost everything....couple things he did leave out was core costs (meaning the amount of rental space needed, utilities, etc) and talent costs.

http://smokeosx.blogspot.com/

scroll about half way down...

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
>
> Where does the $40K figure come from? Are we talking about a basic Mac Pro (fully loaded) or something else? That's $6K for the Mac (tops) plus $2K for the AJA card. The rest (room, monitors, storage, etc.) would be the same for all systems. So $15K + $8K + $2K support.
>
> The real question is whether any custom or specialized hardware is required. On regular Autodesk systems, an advanced NVIDIA card is used and the AJA card is only used for I, not O. That's not really a "standard" Mac editing set-up. As such, the question remains, does this unit become a Smoke-only installation, or can you run FCP, MC, CS4, etc. on the same workstation? If so, it's more attractive than if not.
>
> Terry commented on the single screen UI. That's pretty typical of Autodesk and I presume a 30" would work well. The big thing in the Smoke world is that you don't have a ton of bins open, which usually occupies the other monitor on FCP and MC systems. Thus, better for finishing and not good for offlining.
>
> Again I point out, that Avid COULD have been here with the DS, but has chosen not to. After all, there was a DS Assist for $10K. That plus I/O through an AJA card would have been even more cost-effective than Smoke on a Mac. Will that prove to be a good or bad decision?
>
> - Oliver
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And recently I was planning to assemble a resource of all the plug-ins
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[Avid-L2] Re: Corrupt P2 card files - how to rescue?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Tim Selander <selander@...> wrote:


<<In the meantime, anyone else have a product they like?>>


It's the only one I know of. I was able to take the MXF media files from Avid's media folder and rebuild thew original P2 file structure that would then go to FCP properly. This was done on the Mac version, so I can't say I've ever worked on the PC version.


<<Um, am I the only guy that thinks software for P2 cards that only runs on machines that can't read P2 cards is, well, dumb?>>

There are a whole slew of ways that the various file formats aren't cross platform friendly. Don't get me started....

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Re: [Avid-L2] Add locator WITHOUT the dialog?

I learned a bunch of little tricks because I used to teach a tips and techniques class. Otherwise, I'm sure there's a decent book out there. Basil Pappas?
Shirley

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To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 27, 2009 8:17 am
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Add locator WITHOUT the dialog?

On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Christopher Pitbladdo wrote:

> Before yesterday, I'd put a new keyframe in the place where I'd like
to have moved the old one to, then deleted the original keyframe... I'm
willing to bet good money there's SOME task that can be done more
easily than the way you currently do it Dennis.

I say:

I can guarantee it . . . . ;)

Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Corrupt P2 card files - how to rescue?

Thanks, Terry. I had found these guys via Google, but their
windows version (something or other bronze) choked on the broken
files too, and crashed. I'd try the Mac version, but it's Intel
only, and Intel only MacBooks are ExpressCard only -- not
Cardbus. Um, am I the only guy that thinks software for P2 cards
that only runs on machines that can't read P2 cards is, well, dumb?

I'll try to copy the broken files from the Win machine to the
Mac, and then try the Mac version...

In the meantime, anyone else have a product they like?

Thanks,

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

Terence Curren wrote:
> P2 Log Pro
>
> <<http://www.imagineproducts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=3>>
>
>> So what are you P2 users doing? Surely clips must go bad from
>> time to time. How do you recover them?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim Selander
>> Tokyo, Japan
>>


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[Avid-L2] Re: Corrupt P2 card files - how to rescue?

P2 Log Pro

<<http://www.imagineproducts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=3>>

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Tim Selander <selander@...> wrote:
>
> Just bought our first HD camera, and first non-tape camera, a P2
> job. Don't like the fragility of computer files, but it's the
> future, eh? Avid's AMA is nice, working well in our tests so far.
>
> However, to test robustness, I yanked the power cord while
> rolling (course it can't be 'rolling' now, or 'taping' --
> whaddaya call it?!) on a few clips cuz sooner or later it'll
> happen on a real shoot.
>
> All the clips are broken. And while they show up with Yellow X's
> (repairable according to Panny's info) the 'Repair Clip' choice
> in the menu is un-selectable. None of Panny's P2 software seems
> to offer a repair clip function.
>
> So what are you P2 users doing? Surely clips must go bad from
> time to time. How do you recover them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
>


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Re: [Avid-L2] Add locator WITHOUT the dialog?

On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Christopher Pitbladdo wrote:

> Before yesterday, I'd put a new keyframe in the place where I'd like
to have moved the old one to, then deleted the original keyframe... I'm
willing to bet good money there's SOME task that can be done more
easily than the way you currently do it Dennis.

I say:

I can guarantee it . . . . ;)

Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
NBC Today Show, New York

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[Avid-L2] Corrupt P2 card files - how to rescue?

Just bought our first HD camera, and first non-tape camera, a P2
job. Don't like the fragility of computer files, but it's the
future, eh? Avid's AMA is nice, working well in our tests so far.

However, to test robustness, I yanked the power cord while
rolling (course it can't be 'rolling' now, or 'taping' --
whaddaya call it?!) on a few clips cuz sooner or later it'll
happen on a real shoot.

All the clips are broken. And while they show up with Yellow X's
(repairable according to Panny's info) the 'Repair Clip' choice
in the menu is un-selectable. None of Panny's P2 software seems
to offer a repair clip function.

So what are you P2 users doing? Surely clips must go bad from
time to time. How do you recover them?

Thanks,

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan


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[Avid-L2] Re: Speaking of AMA...

Rupert,

>Rupert Watson wrote:
> I think virtual AMA volumes work fine without consolidating. The only
> point to note is that you will be editing with Sony/Panasonic's
> acquisition codec. This can have performance and picture quality
> ramifications on a long / deep timeline.

My point was that so far, working from virtual drives has not been flawless. I would find various files to be offline, even though they were actually there. This was after working with them for a while. At first they were seen and then later they weren't and could not be relinked. I have not retested under 4.0.4 yet.

BTW - Premiere Pro does much the same thing these days. Using the same virtual files, I haven't had any issues with Premiere Pro. Other issues, yes - just not files going offline.

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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Speaking of AMA...

Oliver

I think virtual AMA volumes work fine without consolidating. The only
point to note is that you will be editing with Sony/Panasonic's
acquisition codec. This can have performance and picture quality
ramifications on a long / deep timeline.

In those cases where it merits it, I would think that a Virtual AMA
volume, long rough cut, to Transcode workflow would be the best of all
worlds.

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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of oliverpetersvidy
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To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Speaking of AMA...

I think the usefulness and workflow with AMA is different depending on
the type of tapeless format you are working with. With XDCAM-HD (from
discs) you are more likely to work with the camera media itslef. With
XDCAM-EX or P2, in applications other than hard news, odds are you'd
copy to a virtual drive first and then access content folders from the
hard drive. In the case of the latter, AMA has got to work flawlessly
from the virtual folder without consolidating, otherwise it's pretty
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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Speaking of AMA...

Knut

The point of AMA is that it is a plugin architecture, so Apple/AJA/BMD
get to do the work if they want to; Avid shouldn't need to.

In order to edit in FCP you have to do the equivalent of what would be
called consolidating in Avid. You can't edit the file based material
from Sony or Panasonic file based cameras without re-wrapping for use in
FCP; you can with AMA.

It seems to me that with AMA you can start the selection process
immediately and choose to Transcode to DNx when it makes sense. The
equivalent workflow on FCP is to consolidate everything you shot and
then Media Manage the stuff you have selected to ProRez

Rupert Watson

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Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Speaking of AMA...

On 26. nov. 2009, at 13.59, Rupert Watson wrote:

> That's what "select media relatives" is for.
>
> Make the rough cut. Select the sequence(s) that contain AMA material.
> Choose "select media relatives" and Transcode to DNx media.

Pushing MC one step closer to FCP methodology: Edit first, take the
transcode hit afterwards. Now if we can get ProRes via AMA too, we no
longer need to mind the gap.

(PS: Remember to make it work with AJA & BM codecs while you're at it.)

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[Avid-L2] OT: Looking to buy a used Sony J-H3

Just like the the title said and preferably with the iLink card.

Let me know if you have one or if you know where I can find one.

Reply off list please.

Thanks

Marcel


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It's the Avid Media Composer Version 1 - Wayback machine engaged!

Thursday, November 26, 2009

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Canon 7D question

The 5D MkII is full-frame, but will only currently record at 30fps (no
good for us 25fps Brits). I say 'currently' because there's a
firmware upgrade coming in the first six months of 2010, which will
introduce UK-friendly frame rates.

The QT's mine spit out are lovely.

On 11 Nov 2009, at 00:46, Quinatwork@aol.com wrote:

> It still uses a less than full-frame sensor. Here's an interesting
> article
> on sensor sizes. This goes along with the recent thread on depth of
> field
> on these cameras.
>
> Quin
>
> Quinton Lee, MIS
> Q.A. Lee Consulting
> Helping People and Technology Work Together
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2009 2:02:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> jeffsengpiehl@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Wow, now that's the camera I want... Christmas is coming up!
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y9s5pmq
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "ksirul" <kenavid2@...> wrote:
> >
> > What video format does this camera shoot? I believe framerates are
> 30,
> 24 and 25p but what is the compression? I was told h.264. Is this true
> and if so, is there another option?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > KEN
> >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Add locator WITHOUT the dialog?

Before yesterday, I'd put a new keyframe in the place where I'd like
to have moved the old one to, then deleted the original keyframe...
I'm willing to bet good money there's SOME task that can be done more
easily than the way you currently do it Dennis.


On 26 Nov 2009, at 20:26, Dennis Degan wrote:

>
> On Nov 26, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Christopher Pitbladdo wrote:
>
> > You know you can move keyframes? I only just discovered that the
> other day. You select them, then alt-click and drag! Or, you can use
> the trim tools to move them back and forth.
>
> I say again:
>
> I do it all the time. It's a necessary function allowing adjustment
> of effects timing.
>
> Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
> NBC Today Show, New York
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[Avid-L2] Re: Speaking of AMA...

I think the usefulness and workflow with AMA is different depending on the type of tapeless format you are working with. With XDCAM-HD (from discs) you are more likely to work with the camera media itslef. With XDCAM-EX or P2, in applications other than hard news, odds are you'd copy to a virtual drive first and then access content folders from the hard drive. In the case of the latter, AMA has got to work flawlessly from the virtual folder without consolidating, otherwise it's pretty pointless.

- Oliver

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Re: [Avid-L2] Happy Thanksgiving

Happy Thanksgiving from OZ and thanks for another entertaining and
informative year.

Ian Wilson
Colortape Productions
Ian@colortape.tv
0418 327 082
Via iPhone

On 27/11/2009, at 4:57 AM, micktv1@aol.com wrote:

> copy paste (in other words, me too)
> Thanks & enjoy your deep fried free range Turduckens everyone!
>
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>
> Gratefully,
> Mick
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> voices. Thank you for your help and adviceo on all things AVID and
> other (FCP, puppies,hot dogs and other such stuff) this past year
> and wishing you all a wonderful holiday....
> very truly,
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Re: [Avid-L2] Speaking of AMA...

Yes - that doesn't work - just wait until you see the mess of error
messages when you shove in the wrong disk. Close all bins before you
mount a new disk - all those clips called cxxxxx because the camera
person didn't change the settings. Avid links solely on clip name at
the moment.

On 26 Nov 2009, at 15:23, John Beck wrote:

The one bit of metadata that is not automatically there (even with a
consolidate/transcode) is the disk name. One could happily use AMA to
view clips and make selects then consolidate or transcode to regular
media storage. Everything would be fine until s/he needed to reimport
something and looked over at the stack of hundreds of XDCam disks. I
wonder how hard it would be for Avid to prompt for an optional disk name
when it sees an AMA source.
--J.B.

>

With best wishes,

Roger Shufflebottom
Avid Certified Instructor
http://www.bottom-line.tv
Tel: +44 1992 535 031 (UK)
Mobile: +44 7973 543 660

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Re: [Avid-L2] Happy Thanksgiving

Backatcha Sue! I'm sure we're all glad we've all had a chance to know you.
There are, of course, so many things to be thankful for. Mainly, right now I'm thankful my share of the cooking is done!
Enjoy the rest of the holiday season.
Shirley

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Subject: [Avid-L2] Happy Thanksgiving


Good morning List';
I am so thankful for the wisdom and humour of this cacopony of voices. Thank
you for your help and adviceo on all things AVID and other (FCP, puppies,hot
dogs and other such stuff) this past year and wishing you all a wonderful
holiday....
very truly,
Susan Perla
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