Saturday, August 25, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Why Does It Take So Long?

Another little trick that some may not know is to HOLD DOWN Cmd/Ctrl+.

This will spam media composer and usually gets it to stop faster.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@aol.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I just want them to write faster. Come on - is this really THAT hard?
>
> Shirley
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Spraker <avid@spraker.tv>
> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2012 8:47 pm
> Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Why Does It Take So Long?
>
> I just swap Timeline views...I don't like my software thinking for me.
>
> Dave Spraker
>
> EditShare Sales | Freelance Post | Sports Audio | Consulting
> www.spraker.tv
> dave@spraker.tv
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Brendan McCullough
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 6:25 AM
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Why Does It Take So Long?
>
> An interim feature that would alleviate the issue would be an option to
> have
> waveforms automatically turn off when you change the zoom level and/or
> position of the timeline. I find I get in trouble when I'm zoomed in
> working
> with waveforms turned on and then forget to toggle them off before I zoom
> out to show the entire sequence.
>
> Brendan McCullough
> video editing . post-production
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> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 7:09 AM, superhorschd <acsr-elite@web.de> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> >
> > > Why does it take so freakin' long to redraw the audio waveform in
> > > the
> > timeline?!
> >
> > I'm afraid your computer is way to slow for RTMSWD (TM) also known as
> > RealTime MultiStream Waveform Display (TM). This is on the roadmap for
> > Media Composer v10 and will be a killer feature then!
> > Well, I'm just kidding.. ;-)
> >
> > To be serious:
> > Depending on your platform Command + '.' or CTRL + '.' can take some
> > pain away, as well as 'show marked wavform'.
> >
> > SDII (Sond Designer II) format was a solution but this is absolutely
> > old school and therefore Avid killed it years ago. When computers were
> > 'running' at 20 MHz the trick was to compute the waveform once and
> > include it in the SDII file. This may be cool for old farts but not
> > for creative Avid users, so you have to wait for MC v10 ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
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[Avid-L2] Re: Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

 

I think all the WGA members are busy taking editing courses. I think they finally figured out they weren't going to get the reality editors to join the WGA so they might as well join the editors. ;-)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, owen <owen@...> wrote:
>
> ha, yes. Obviously not written by an WGA member. ;)
>
> Owen's iphone
>
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> On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@...> wrote:
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> > There are many tormented sentences for sure! This sort of thing is way too common in all sorts of media, including the products that are my responsibility.
> >
> > Shirley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greg <Greg@...>
> > To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 12:43 pm
> > Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits
> >
> > I'm less concerned about the inferred politics of the article than I am
> > about the grammar and spelling skills of the writer. The article reads
> > almost like it was translated from another language.
> >
> > Like most picture editors, I can't claim to be good with the spelling,
> > but I like to think I can execute a sentence. Does Lynda.com offer
> > journalism courses?
> >
> > gh
> > -------------------------------------
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> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits
> > From: "paul.hartel" <phartel@...>
> > Date: Sat, August 25, 2012 10:55 am
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/editors-settle-with-syfy-show-hot-set-after-walkout-halted-production-for-3-days/#more-324780
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

 

Certainly, unionizing, health benefits, insurance, wages and conditions
of work have been discussed gently and reasonably on the L, L2 for many
years.

D
On 8/25/2012 1:11 PM, Anna Hovhannessian wrote:
>
> I like it. And honestly we don't always stick to tech. It's part of
> being a community of editors.
>
> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:56 PM, "Mark" <markraudonis@yahoo.com
> <mailto:markraudonis%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> > Can we stick to the tech stuff and not go all political on this
> board? There's plenty of other
> > venues for this discussion... don't need it here. Thanks.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "paul.hartel" <phartel@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/editors-settle-with-syfy-show-hot-set-after-walkout-halted-production-for-3-days/#more-324780
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Re: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

 

really, you can't find any other place to talk about politics or the union? Then you didn't even try.

Since you are a member of this list you probably have access to all of the Yahoo Groups. I found a whole section on there devoted to the subject of Government and Politics. Under the Politics section there are 27647 groups. Try some of those.

If you want to focus on union and labor issues a search for IATSE brings back 23 groups.

A search for Labor Union brings back 454 groups.

That was with a very minimal effort.

Jay

On Aug 25, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Anna Hovhannessian wrote:

> Where else would you suggest?
>
> I don't know of any venue as robust and rich.
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Personally I'm not interested in getting into politics and union issues on this list. And I am a member of and support the 700. It's all worth talking about and discussing, but I believe it's best left somewhere else.
>>
>> Jay Mahavier
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Mark wrote:
>>
>>> "how pathetic is our aversion to the political sphere that our illustrious group can't politely
>>> engage these issues without the threat of it descending into acrimony and
>>> invective?"
>>>
>>> ... and away we go! Told ya!
>>>
>>> mark
>>>
>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Anna. I come to the L-2 for the tech, but I stay for the community. And I like reading about the political wrangling that impacts our professional lives. And anyway, union issues don't seem like so much political issues as just a very real part of working the industry at this level. AND... how pathetic is our aversion to the political sphere that our illustrious group can't politely engage these issues without the threat of it descending into acrimony and invective?
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Anna Hovhannessian wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I like it. And honestly we don't always stick to tech. It's part of being a community of editors.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:56 PM, "Mark" <markraudonis@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we stick to the tech stuff and not go all political on this board? There's plenty of other
>>>>>> venues for this discussion... don't need it here. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "paul.hartel" <phartel@> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/editors-settle-with-syfy-show-hot-set-after-walkout-halted-production-for-3-days/#more-324780
>>>>>>>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

 

Because when OT crap like politics and religion get on this list they tend to drown out the members asking questions and looking for help about topics that this list was created for. I often make rules that move subject lines straight to the trash, but the more of the OT crap you let on here without saying anything about the more is going to show up.

And the bottom line is that I really don't care about the political views of anyone on this list other than my own. If I want to talk politics or religion I'll talk with my friends or find a venue created for that.

Jay Mahavier

On Aug 25, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Shirley Gutierrez wrote:

> The subject line is plenty clear, I think. Why not just skip reading any further? Then the rest of us can talk if we want.
>
>
> Shirley
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@earthlink.net>
> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 1:47 pm
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits
>
>
> Personally I'm not interested in getting into politics and union issues on this
> list. And I am a member of and support the 700. It's all worth talking about
> and discussing, but I believe it's best left somewhere else.
>
> Jay Mahavier
>
> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Mark wrote:
>
>> "how pathetic is our aversion to the political sphere that our illustrious
> group can't politely
>> engage these issues without the threat of it descending into acrimony and
>> invective?"
>>
>> ... and away we go! Told ya!
>>
>> mark
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with Anna. I come to the L-2 for the tech, but I stay for the
> community. And I like reading about the political wrangling that impacts our
> professional lives. And anyway, union issues don't seem like so much political
> issues as just a very real part of working the industry at this level. AND...
> how pathetic is our aversion to the political sphere that our illustrious group
> can't politely engage these issues without the threat of it descending into
> acrimony and invective?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Anna Hovhannessian wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like it. And honestly we don't always stick to tech. It's part of being a
> community of editors.
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:56 PM, "Mark" <markraudonis@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can we stick to the tech stuff and not go all political on this board?
> There's plenty of other
>>>>> venues for this discussion... don't need it here. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "paul.hartel" <phartel@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/editors-settle-with-syfy-show-hot-set-after-walkout-halted-production-for-3-days/#more-324780
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> davidadodson@...
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[Avid-L2] ISIS data migration tool

 

A few interesting notes on this-

Do not use to write to an ISIS that is in service. It will overwhelm it, and throw it into a Network Degraded status. If this happens all your editors drop offline, and everything needs a reboot.

If you try to sync with more then one system, keep an eye on the bandwidth, and the status of the ISIS being written to- if you go network degraded you WILL need to force the sync client to re-boot before attempting to start again.

I'm seeing 85-95 MB/s per sync system of read, full throttle throughput.

JDS

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[Avid-L2] Re: Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

 

I agree- Provided it doesn't delve into politics, which it doesn't seem it is...

JDS

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jim Feeley <jfeeley@...> wrote:
>
> I bet Deadline Hollywood uses non-union reporters and editors. Well, they probably don't use any editors.
>
> If we don't delve too deeply into "unions are great/evil" and keep the tone fairly civil, I think such discussions can, and perhaps should, take place here.
>
>
>
> Jim "been singed too often to be a pollyanna" Feeley
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Shirley Gutierrez wrote:
>
> > Indeed, don't we in fact talk about all sorts of trends that affect our industry and employment opportunities? Issues like outsourcing, rates and budgets, corporate mergers and realignments, marketing strategies, and patents have come up here before. How is this simple posting about a labor dispute beyond the pale?
> >
> > Shirley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anna Hovhannessian <annahovhannessian@...>
> > To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 12:11 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits
> >
> > I like it. And honestly we don't always stick to tech. It's part of being a
> > community of editors.
> >
> > On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:56 PM, "Mark" <markraudonis@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Can we stick to the tech stuff and not go all political on this board? There's
> > plenty of other
> > > venues for this discussion... don't need it here. Thanks.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "paul.hartel" <phartel@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/editors-settle-with-syfy-show-hot-set-after-walkout-halted-production-for-3-days/#more-324780
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

 

Whoa, just read this. Wow is the grammar bad.

It's basically an MPEG promotional piece. Good to know the place is organizing. Sometimes I do wonder what the risks are. MPEG doesn't guarantee job security. They say it's illegal for you to get fired because of your affiliation or your activeness in the union, but there's such a gray area. It's easy for a production company to let you go because of "lack of work". It leaves you with no grounds to challenge them. And the reps at MPEG just shrug.

Any thoughts? I'd love to get more info to better understand the whole process

I'm in the union and I love being a part of it. It's a limited union though. Maybe someone more seasoned can shed some light.

I'm NY based. I know there are more union houses in CA and the union's stronger there.

On Aug 25, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jim Feeley <jfeeley@gmail.com> wrote:

> I bet Deadline Hollywood uses non-union reporters and editors. Well, they probably don't use any editors.
>
> If we don't delve too deeply into "unions are great/evil" and keep the tone fairly civil, I think such discussions can, and perhaps should, take place here.
>
> Jim "been singed too often to be a pollyanna" Feeley
>
> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Shirley Gutierrez wrote:
>
> > Indeed, don't we in fact talk about all sorts of trends that affect our industry and employment opportunities? Issues like outsourcing, rates and budgets, corporate mergers and realignments, marketing strategies, and patents have come up here before. How is this simple posting about a labor dispute beyond the pale?
> >
> > Shirley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anna Hovhannessian <annahovhannessian@yahoo.com>
> > To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 12:11 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits
> >
> > I like it. And honestly we don't always stick to tech. It's part of being a
> > community of editors.
> >
> > On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:56 PM, "Mark" <markraudonis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Can we stick to the tech stuff and not go all political on this board? There's
> > plenty of other
> > > venues for this discussion... don't need it here. Thanks.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "paul.hartel" <phartel@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/editors-settle-with-syfy-show-hot-set-after-walkout-halted-production-for-3-days/#more-324780
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

 

I bet Deadline Hollywood uses non-union reporters and editors. Well, they probably don't use any editors.

If we don't delve too deeply into "unions are great/evil" and keep the tone fairly civil, I think such discussions can, and perhaps should, take place here.

Jim "been singed too often to be a pollyanna" Feeley

On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Shirley Gutierrez wrote:

> Indeed, don't we in fact talk about all sorts of trends that affect our industry and employment opportunities? Issues like outsourcing, rates and budgets, corporate mergers and realignments, marketing strategies, and patents have come up here before. How is this simple posting about a labor dispute beyond the pale?
>
> Shirley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anna Hovhannessian <annahovhannessian@yahoo.com>
> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 12:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits
>
> I like it. And honestly we don't always stick to tech. It's part of being a
> community of editors.
>
> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:56 PM, "Mark" <markraudonis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Can we stick to the tech stuff and not go all political on this board? There's
> plenty of other
> > venues for this discussion... don't need it here. Thanks.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "paul.hartel" <phartel@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/editors-settle-with-syfy-show-hot-set-after-walkout-halted-production-for-3-days/#more-324780

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Re: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

 

ha, yes. Obviously not written by an WGA member. ;)

Owen's iphone

On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@aol.com> wrote:

> There are many tormented sentences for sure! This sort of thing is way too common in all sorts of media, including the products that are my responsibility.
>
> Shirley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg <Greg@SecretHQ.com>
> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 12:43 pm
> Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits
>
> I'm less concerned about the inferred politics of the article than I am
> about the grammar and spelling skills of the writer. The article reads
> almost like it was translated from another language.
>
> Like most picture editors, I can't claim to be good with the spelling,
> but I like to think I can execute a sentence. Does Lynda.com offer
> journalism courses?
>
> gh
> -------------------------------------
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> Chief
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits
> From: "paul.hartel" <phartel@yahoo.com>
> Date: Sat, August 25, 2012 10:55 am
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/editors-settle-with-syfy-show-hot-set-after-walkout-halted-production-for-3-days/#more-324780
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Re: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

 

Where else would you suggest?

I don't know of any venue as robust and rich.

On Aug 25, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Personally I'm not interested in getting into politics and union issues on this list. And I am a member of and support the 700. It's all worth talking about and discussing, but I believe it's best left somewhere else.
>
> Jay Mahavier
>
> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Mark wrote:
>
> > "how pathetic is our aversion to the political sphere that our illustrious group can't politely
> > engage these issues without the threat of it descending into acrimony and
> > invective?"
> >
> > ... and away we go! Told ya!
> >
> > mark
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I agree with Anna. I come to the L-2 for the tech, but I stay for the community. And I like reading about the political wrangling that impacts our professional lives. And anyway, union issues don't seem like so much political issues as just a very real part of working the industry at this level. AND... how pathetic is our aversion to the political sphere that our illustrious group can't politely engage these issues without the threat of it descending into acrimony and invective?
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 25, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Anna Hovhannessian wrote:
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> >>> I like it. And honestly we don't always stick to tech. It's part of being a community of editors.
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:56 PM, "Mark" <markraudonis@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Can we stick to the tech stuff and not go all political on this board? There's plenty of other
> >>>> venues for this discussion... don't need it here. Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "paul.hartel" <phartel@> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/editors-settle-with-syfy-show-hot-set-after-walkout-halted-production-for-3-days/#more-324780
> >>>>>
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> >> davidadodson@...
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Re: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

 

The subject line is plenty clear, I think. Why not just skip reading any further? Then the rest of us can talk if we want.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@earthlink.net>
To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

Personally I'm not interested in getting into politics and union issues on this
list. And I am a member of and support the 700. It's all worth talking about
and discussing, but I believe it's best left somewhere else.

Jay Mahavier

On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Mark wrote:

> "how pathetic is our aversion to the political sphere that our illustrious
group can't politely
> engage these issues without the threat of it descending into acrimony and
> invective?"
>
> ... and away we go! Told ya!
>
> mark
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I agree with Anna. I come to the L-2 for the tech, but I stay for the
community. And I like reading about the political wrangling that impacts our
professional lives. And anyway, union issues don't seem like so much political
issues as just a very real part of working the industry at this level. AND...
how pathetic is our aversion to the political sphere that our illustrious group
can't politely engage these issues without the threat of it descending into
acrimony and invective?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Anna Hovhannessian wrote:
>>
>>> I like it. And honestly we don't always stick to tech. It's part of being a
community of editors.
>>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:56 PM, "Mark" <markraudonis@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can we stick to the tech stuff and not go all political on this board?
There's plenty of other
>>>> venues for this discussion... don't need it here. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "paul.hartel" <phartel@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/editors-settle-with-syfy-show-hot-set-after-walkout-halted-production-for-3-days/#more-324780
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> David Dodson
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Re: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

 

There are many tormented sentences for sure! This sort of thing is way too common in all sorts of media, including the products that are my responsibility.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg <Greg@SecretHQ.com>
To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 12:43 pm
Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits

I'm less concerned about the inferred politics of the article than I am
about the grammar and spelling skills of the writer. The article reads
almost like it was translated from another language.

Like most picture editors, I can't claim to be good with the spelling,
but I like to think I can execute a sentence. Does Lynda.com offer
journalism courses?

gh
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DigitalServiceStation.com

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Avid-L2] Editors, AE's picket, win union contract, benefits
From: "paul.hartel" <phartel@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, August 25, 2012 10:55 am
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com

http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/editors-settle-with-syfy-show-hot-set-after-walkout-halted-production-for-3-days/#more-324780




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