Saturday, February 13, 2016

[Avid-L2] Latest Art of the Cut on "Deadpool"

 

http://www.provideocoalition.com/art-of-the-cut-on-cutting-deadpool-with-premiere-pro-cc


This is actually about Deadpool being edited on Premiere, but has discussion of Avid - you know me!

This interview is with Vashi Nedomansky who was the editorial consultant. I recently recorded another interview with the actual editor of "Deadpool" - Julian Clarke - which will appear shortly.

Some fun Sunday reading.

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[Avid-L2] Application Manager issues?

 

My Application Manager 2.5.1 has been unable to log into my account all night.  Anyone else having this issue?  Just continually polls the Avid server until I quit.

Media Composer still launches and functions, so my licensing does not appear affected.

Just trying to figure out whether this is a server issue at Avid or there is a problem at my end.

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[Avid-L2] Demo Reel & Copyright question

 

So I need to update my website and most likely will use Wordpress (open to other suggestions). Just wondering what people are doing for online demo reels that might have copyrighted music, photos or video in the segment. Its it alright to post on Vimeo, YouTube ect.. if you have it titled demo reel. Or it still a breach of copyright? 


Michael McDade

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Re: [Avid-L2] symphony question

 

One of the huge advantages to Symphony is the source side color correction. That means you can apply a correction to a shot in the timeline and have that same correction happen throughout the timeline anywhere else that shot is used, or any other shot from that master clip, or any other shot from that source clip name if you choose.


When you go to MC with that sequence, all those corrections are turned into the color correction effect that exists in MC and you no longer have that source side relational adjustment capability.


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Friday, February 12, 2016

Re: [Avid-L2] sift selected

 

Not sure what you are seeing, but when I have the Media Tool open, in the Bin menu I see "Sift Selected Items"  

Note:  This is contextual. It only appears if you actually have items selected.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Anyone know where this menu item went in MC 8.5? I use "sift selected" all the time and now I don't see it. Had to hunt around just to find select sources and reverse selection.

thanks
Lou
Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com
415-924-9411p


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Re: [Avid-L2] symphony question

 

That would make sense if it's rendered the secondary correction is baked in.  Once unrendered there is no secondary correction.  I can't recall if channel blending stuck or not back in my tests from past.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jb30343@...> wrote :

Unless something has changed in recent releases, if you render the CC in
Symphony it will play in MC. That includes secondaries. If it comes
un-rendered, it needs to go back to Symphony. I can't remember for sure
but I think the same might apply to channel blending.
--J.B.

bigfish@... [Avid-L2] wrote:
>
>
> I'm pretty sure you lose the secondary color correction completely
> when going to non symphony option system. That's how the traditional
> symphony to media composer behaved. All the other symphony specific
> color correction parameters will still effect the image when brought
> back to non symphony media composer you just can't adjust those
> parameters. Back around Vers. 3 ish I did some tests and it seemed
> like not all the symphony specific color corrections were coming
> accross to my home media composer but since then I have seen it behave
> as I describe at the beginning of this post. I haven't done specific
> tests related to this since the symphony and media composer became a
> merged product so perhaps there has been changes in the behavior I
> haven't noticed.
>
>
> ---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <mikedor@...> wrote :
>
> It does not lock you to the symphony. If you open the project on a MC
> machine, you will lose the ability to adjust secondary color
> corrections, but that's about it.
>
> MK
>
>
>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 1:39 PM, 'Carmichael, Scott A' sacarmic@...
>> <mailto:sacarmic@...> [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>>
>> HI, i have a question for anyone running Symphony. When you have
>> a project you work on with a MC system with the Symphony option,
>> what happens if you take that project to a non-Symphony machine?
>> Does it lock you into the Symphony machine? We are thinking about
>> adding that option to one of our workstations but not all of them.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] symphony question

 

Unless something has changed in recent releases, if you render the CC in
Symphony it will play in MC. That includes secondaries. If it comes
un-rendered, it needs to go back to Symphony. I can't remember for sure
but I think the same might apply to channel blending.
--J.B.

bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] wrote:
>
>
> I'm pretty sure you lose the secondary color correction completely
> when going to non symphony option system. That's how the traditional
> symphony to media composer behaved. All the other symphony specific
> color correction parameters will still effect the image when brought
> back to non symphony media composer you just can't adjust those
> parameters. Back around Vers. 3 ish I did some tests and it seemed
> like not all the symphony specific color corrections were coming
> accross to my home media composer but since then I have seen it behave
> as I describe at the beginning of this post. I haven't done specific
> tests related to this since the symphony and media composer became a
> merged product so perhaps there has been changes in the behavior I
> haven't noticed.
>
>
> ---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <mikedor@...> wrote :
>
> It does not lock you to the symphony. If you open the project on a MC
> machine, you will lose the ability to adjust secondary color
> corrections, but that's about it.
>
> MK
>
>
>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 1:39 PM, 'Carmichael, Scott A' sacarmic@...
>> <mailto:sacarmic@...> [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>>
>> HI, i have a question for anyone running Symphony. When you have
>> a project you work on with a MC system with the Symphony option,
>> what happens if you take that project to a non-Symphony machine?
>> Does it lock you into the Symphony machine? We are thinking about
>> adding that option to one of our workstations but not all of them.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] symphony question

 

I'm pretty sure you lose the secondary color correction completely when going to non symphony option system.  That's how the traditional symphony to media composer behaved.  All the other symphony specific color correction parameters will still effect the image when brought back to non symphony media composer you just can't adjust those parameters.  Back around Vers. 3 ish I did some tests and it seemed like not all the symphony specific color corrections were coming accross to my home media composer but since then I have seen it behave as I describe at the beginning of this post.  I haven't done specific tests related to this since the symphony and media composer became a merged product so perhaps there has been changes in the behavior I haven't noticed.



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <mikedor@...> wrote :

It does not lock you to the symphony. If you open the project on a MC machine, you will lose the ability to adjust secondary color corrections, but that's about it.

MK


On Feb 12, 2016, at 1:39 PM, 'Carmichael, Scott A' sacarmic@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

HI, i have a question for anyone running Symphony. When you have a project you work on with a MC system with the Symphony option, what happens if you take that project to a non-Symphony machine? Does it lock you into the Symphony machine? We are thinking about adding that option to one of our workstations but not all of them.

Thanks,
Scott


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Re: [Avid-L2] symphony question

 

It does not lock you to the symphony. If you open the project on a MC machine, you will lose the ability to adjust secondary color corrections, but that's about it.


MK


On Feb 12, 2016, at 1:39 PM, 'Carmichael, Scott A' sacarmic@indiana.edu [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

HI, i have a question for anyone running Symphony. When you have a project you work on with a MC system with the Symphony option, what happens if you take that project to a non-Symphony machine? Does it lock you into the Symphony machine? We are thinking about adding that option to one of our workstations but not all of them.

Thanks,
Scott


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[Avid-L2] symphony question

 

HI, i have a question for anyone running Symphony. When you have a project you work on with a MC system with the Symphony option, what happens if you take that project to a non-Symphony machine? Does it lock you into the Symphony machine? We are thinking about adding that option to one of our workstations but not all of them.

Thanks,
Scott

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[Avid-L2] Re: AMA Database path

 

The file path on a PC is: C:\Users\Public\Documents\Avid Media Composer\AMA Management\AMA Metadata Folders





Mac HD / Users / Shared / Avid Media Composer / AMA Databases

 



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <popix@...> wrote :

A while back there was some discussion about the size and location of the AMA database. Can't seem to find it in the archive.  

On my MC v7.03 does anyone know the path the AMA database? I know it is forced to drive C somewhere.

There was some discussion of allowing users to have this database somewhere other than the C drive. Di that ever happen in v 8?

 

Thanks,

 

Pete O

 

POP Pictures Inc.

Orlando

 

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[Avid-L2] sift selected

 

Anyone know where this menu item went in MC 8.5? I use "sift selected" all the time and now I don't see it. Had to hunt around just to find select sources and reverse selection.

thanks
Lou
Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com
415-924-9411p

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[Avid-L2] AMA Database path

 

A while back there was some discussion about the size and location of the AMA database. Can’t seem to find it in the archive.  

On my MC v7.03 does anyone know the path the AMA database? I know it is forced to drive C somewhere.

There was some discussion of allowing users to have this database somewhere other than the C drive. Di that ever happen in v 8?

 

Thanks,

 

Pete O

 

POP Pictures Inc.

Orlando

 

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Re: [Avid-L2] Don't see MXF in ama plugin choices?

 

Maybe someone from Avid lurking can comment, but is it possible that the AMA plugins are cached for quicker startup?  If you add or remove manually, it would have unpredictable results, as the program is not loading them directly but really from the cache, which has not been cleared.   I know I have run into this with MacOSX, troubleshooting kernel extensions.  Sometimes, manually removing the offending kext will not fix the problem, as you need to clear the kextcache or the OS will not even know it's gone.  If there is an AMA plugin cache, then maybe something needs to be done for it to be force rebuilt.   In your case, the plugin cache was not rebuilt initially, so the problem persisted, but when the cache was rebuilt later for some reason, the problem seemingly spontaneously fixed itself.  Of course this is pure speculation and may be complete hogwash.   Thanks for bringing another weird and puzzling, yet strangely entertaining issue to light.



On Thursday, February 11, 2016, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

In light of another thread today I went back to fix once again my missing mxf ama plugin choice.  I found if I emptied the ama plugin folder and only put in the Avid auto installed mxf ama plugin it would show up.  I added a few more of the existing ama plug ins and it still showed up.  When I added the avid auto installed AS02 ama plugin the mxf choice in the ama plugin pulldown menu disappeared.  This was repeatable several times. 

I then uninstalled Avid and reinstalled after emptying the ama plugin folder.  After reinstall which put the mxf and AS02 ama plugins back into the ama folder the mxf showed up.  I then removed the newly reinstalled AS02 mxf ama plugin and put back in the previous problematic version of the AS02 ama plugin, both are the same version according to the file info.  Now the original problematic AS02 ama plug in no longer nukes out the mxf choice in ama plugins.  So WTF?  Just when I thought I had narrowed it down it starts working again.  If the past is still any indicator in a few weeks it will disappear again.  The only thing common now is the actual Avid 6.5.4.7 installer. 

This again falls into a category of computer voodoo.  How does the file that just caused the problem repeatedly now behave?  My brain is really starting to hurt.  At least now it seems when it happens again if I just remove the AS02 ama plugin the mxf will reappear as a choice without a reinstall.  Unfortunately if I need the AS02 plugin it seems only a reinstall lets the two coexist, at least for a while.  Once again WTF if computers want to break why don't the stay broken or better yet just stay working?



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

That's what I did last time.  The last time the correct one reinstalled automatically but now it's gone off the reservation again.  All your points are valid they just don't apply here because I've been through this three times and each time I stripped the ama plugins folder bare and reinstalled and it started working.  And by reinstall I let Avid install the mxf by itself on the install.  Something seems to keep going south.  I just don't notice it right away because I rarely use ama on my system where I have to force it to mxf manually.  I'd like to think I've fixed it but I thought that the last two times so it's still a mystery.  I compared the info dates on the mxf that had been working and the one in my backup folder and they were identical.  Something is rotten in Cyber Denmark but it's really a subtle thing.  I find it hard to believe I have the only system that this has happened to.  I'm not that unique even if I think I am.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <cutandcover@...> wrote :

Some versions of MC (prior to some point) required you to download and install a MXF AMA plugin. Perhaps you have different versions of the MXF AMA plugin (one you download and one that gets installed automatically). You can only have one, so it's likely the one you had was the wrong version for that version of MC. By dumping it and reinstalling MC, it now has the right version of MXF plugin. That plugin is tricky - and it will not be overwritten if it's wrong. Diligent documenting for your folders is crucial if you want to run multiple MC versions, as you seem to do. Get it running on MC version x.y.z, then backup that AMA folder and name it accordingly.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:56 PM, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Just following up on this old thread as once again today I found the choice of mxf missing in the ama link autodetect pulldown menu.  Don't know how long it's been gone as I don't use it except when I want to check and XDCam 50 export file. 

I checked the ama folder and the mxf msp file was there.  I replaced it with one I had saved into a protection folder and restarted Avid still no go for the mxf choice.

Once again I removed everything from the ama folder and then uninstalled and reinstalled Avid 6.5.4.7.  Once done there was only the mxf msp and the AS 02 ama plugin in the ama folder and then Avid show mxf as a choice for ama linking.  I dropped back in all my other ama plugins and everything is right again but it clearly is only a matter of time before this happens.  I have run the same config on my home system. Mac OS 10.8.5 Avid 6.5.4.7 without this issue.  WTF would make my work system drop the mxf choice in the pulldown menu seemingly arbitrarily when the mxf msp plugin clearly exists in the ama folder.

The only remedy has been a reinstall of avid but only after I've removed the existing mxf msp from the ama folder.  It's like if it stays in there Avid doesn't reinstall it automatically.  and Manually replacing it doesn't work either.  It had been suggested to make a protection copy folder of all my ama plugins which I did but that doesn't seem to work in this case.  Only a complete reinstall with a virgin ama plugin folder.  Very annoying as this is the cleanest install I've had in years.




---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

I found my mxf ama plugin choice missing again today after fixing this a couple weeks back.  Today I first reinstalled Avid with no success.  Then removed the existing msp_mxf ama plugin from the avx 2/ama folder and reinstalled and trash .avs, mc state and site settings still no good.  Finally I removed everything from the ama plugin folder and reinstalled a third time then it came back.  The Avid install gave me two items in the ama folder the msp_mxf and msp_ AS02.  With just those two I had a choice of auto, mxf, avchd and quicktime for ama plugins.  I then put back in the other ama plugins and everything is fine.

WTF is this going to be a weekly routine.  I've had some Adobe updates and Apple Pro Video during the last time I fixed this.  Could there be an interaction?  The msp_mxf was in the folder but not being recognized.  Anybody else see this?


---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

I pulled the MSP MXF Plug-in out of the avx2/ama folder then uninstalled Avid and reinstalled and now I have mxf as a choice in the ama pulldown menu.  I did confirm that a install did in fact install the msp mxf plugin.  I wonder if the existing version in the ama folder was not allowing a new install.  Weird given this is a fairly clean new install on the computer and I don't think it ever had pre 6.5 installed.  Oh well now that this is working I'm checking the .mxf XDCam OP 1a file and finding the levels are off like it was expecting RGB but only got 601 levels.  the setup is high and washed out and the peak white is low just like an RGB 601 miss match.  I'll have to check the Adobe Media Encoder for more settings.


---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

Here is the ama plugins installed:

ama_listplugins

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AMA PLUG-IN NAME COMPANY NAME VERSION

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AVCHD MSP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.3.2.6205

AVCHD MVP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.3.2.6205

QuickTime Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.2.2.7195

MSP_MXF Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.9.2.7195

MSP_SonyXDCAMEXMP4_64bit Sony Corporation 1.6003

MVP_CanonXF64 CANON INC. 2.0

MVP_MSP_ARRI_MXF © 2011-2012 Hamburg Pro M

AS-02 Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.1.1.7195

IkegamiGFCam Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 3.6

PanasonicP2 MVP_MSP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 2.6

MVP_MSP_SonyF65Raw_64bit Sony Corporation 1.0

MVP_MSP_SonySRDeck_64bit Sony Corporation 2.1006

MVP_SonyXDCAMEX_64bit Sony Corporation 1.6003

SonyXDCAM_64bit Sony Corporation 2.3305




---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

I've been asked to bake an XDCAM 50 OP 1a file.  I've done this out of Avid on my home system but at work I decided to try Adobe Media Encoder.  I baked a file and now I want to check it in Avid.  The problem is in my experience I have to manually select the MXF plugin in order to ama link to an XDCAM 50 mxf file.  On my work system I don't see MXF as a choice in the ama plugins pulldown menu.  I've reinstalled Sony XDCAM 2.33 on my MacPro 12 core OS 10.8.5 SNDX ver. 6.5.4.7 but still don't see MXF as a choice.  I listed the ama plugins in the console and I see MSP_MXF Plug-in  Avid Technology, Inc 1.9.2.7195.  It is my understanding that as of 6.5.0.1 the MXF ama plugin is automatically installed so there is no reason to download an ama plugin for mxf.

I remember there were some ama plugins that relied on the presence of other ama plugins.  Perhaps it was Canon needed the AVC HD or some such thing.  At any rate what must I be missing to not see MXF in the ama plugin list of choices?
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...


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