Saturday, March 13, 2010

RE: [Avid-L2] H264 Problems With Exported Video

Thanks Dave. I'm finishing up some other work tonight, so I'll be trying
these suggestions tomorrow and I'll let you guys know how it plays out.

Les

Les Nagy

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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dave koslow
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:24 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] H264 Problems With Exported Video

I am just talking out of my butt....but Ive had odd stuff with H264 out of
Avid before. We found that the X264 codec ( free opensource) works better.We
had good luck using that with QT Pro, coming from Anim QT(out of avid) For
even more control, there is the MEGUI (also a free opensource project). Now
the bad news...its a complicated beast with a bunch o'parts to install and
master. One of my IT guys has it sorta figgered out, but I havent really had
the time to play with it much, so I cant offer you any scripts, at this
point.

kOz
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Nagy
To: Avid L2
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 15:29
Subject: [Avid-L2] H264 Problems With Exported Video

Hello,

I'm exporting a 720p video to H264 from Xpress Pro HD 5.2.7. The video's
high contrast black & white, blown out whites. The white wall in several
shots throughout the exported video flashes between white and grey.

I've never had trouble exporting anything to H264, I have the correct
QuickTime and nothing has changed on my system. I exported other videos to
H264 after this problem and they're fine. I've tried exporting this video
with several combinations of H264 settings and I always get exactly the same
result.

I tried exporting the video to DNHD and the problem does not exist there,
however, there is a different flashing where the edges of the blown out
whites meet other darker objects in the frame. I brought the whites way down
to see if it would resolve the issue, but it did not. I've included a link
to a short excerpt from the H264 and the DNHD exports. I hope someone can
help. Thanks!

H264 (Problem starts on the 3rd shot in:

http://vimeo.com/10138701

DNHD (Problem starts on the 2nd shot in:

http://vimeo.com/10138713

Les Nagy

Chicago

lnagy@maladaahn.com <mailto:lnagy%40maladaahn.com>

www.Maladaahn.com

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RE: [Avid-L2] H264 Problems With Exported Video

Hi Paul,

Thanks, I appreciate that. And thanks for the suggestion. I was so busy trying various settings, I didn't even think of that. I'll give that a shot tomorrow and I'll reply with the results.

Thanks again,

Les

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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of paulsulsky@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 9:47 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] H264 Problems With Exported Video

Hi Les,

I like your shots. Have you tried exporting an uncompressed Quicktime file and using third party compression software like Sorenson Squeeze?

Best Wishes,

Paul Sulsky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Nagy" <lnagy@maladaahn.com <mailto:lnagy%40maladaahn.com> >
To: "Avid L2" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:29:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Avid-L2] H264 Problems With Exported Video

Hello,

I'm exporting a 720p video to H264 from Xpress Pro HD 5.2.7. The video's
high contrast black & white, blown out whites. The white wall in several
shots throughout the exported video flashes between white and grey.

I've never had trouble exporting anything to H264, I have the correct
QuickTime and nothing has changed on my system. I exported other videos to
H264 after this problem and they're fine. I've tried exporting this video
with several combinations of H264 settings and I always get exactly the same
result.

I tried exporting the video to DNHD and the problem does not exist there,
however, there is a different flashing where the edges of the blown out
whites meet other darker objects in the frame. I brought the whites way down
to see if it would resolve the issue, but it did not. I've included a link
to a short excerpt from the H264 and the DNHD exports. I hope someone can
help. Thanks!

H264 (Problem starts on the 3rd shot in:

http://vimeo.com/10138701

DNHD (Problem starts on the 2nd shot in:

http://vimeo.com/10138713

Les Nagy

Chicago

lnagy@maladaahn.com <mailto:lnagy%40maladaahn.com>

www.Maladaahn.com

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Re: [Avid-L2] H264 Problems With Exported Video

I am just talking out of my butt....but Ive had odd stuff with H264 out of Avid before. We found that the X264 codec ( free opensource) works better.We had good luck using that with QT Pro, coming from Anim QT(out of avid) For even more control, there is the MEGUI (also a free opensource project). Now the bad news...its a complicated beast with a bunch o'parts to install and master. One of my IT guys has it sorta figgered out, but I havent really had the time to play with it much, so I cant offer you any scripts, at this point.

kOz
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Nagy
To: Avid L2
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 15:29
Subject: [Avid-L2] H264 Problems With Exported Video



Hello,

I'm exporting a 720p video to H264 from Xpress Pro HD 5.2.7. The video's
high contrast black & white, blown out whites. The white wall in several
shots throughout the exported video flashes between white and grey.

I've never had trouble exporting anything to H264, I have the correct
QuickTime and nothing has changed on my system. I exported other videos to
H264 after this problem and they're fine. I've tried exporting this video
with several combinations of H264 settings and I always get exactly the same
result.

I tried exporting the video to DNHD and the problem does not exist there,
however, there is a different flashing where the edges of the blown out
whites meet other darker objects in the frame. I brought the whites way down
to see if it would resolve the issue, but it did not. I've included a link
to a short excerpt from the H264 and the DNHD exports. I hope someone can
help. Thanks!

H264 (Problem starts on the 3rd shot in:

http://vimeo.com/10138701

DNHD (Problem starts on the 2nd shot in:

http://vimeo.com/10138713

Les Nagy

Chicago

lnagy@maladaahn.com

www.Maladaahn.com

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Re: [Avid-L2] H264 Problems With Exported Video

Hi Les,

I like your shots. Have you tried exporting an uncompressed Quicktime file and using third party compression software like Sorenson Squeeze?

Best Wishes,

Paul Sulsky


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From: "Les Nagy" <lnagy@maladaahn.com>
To: "Avid L2" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:29:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Avid-L2] H264 Problems With Exported Video


Hello,

I'm exporting a 720p video to H264 from Xpress Pro HD 5.2.7. The video's
high contrast black & white, blown out whites. The white wall in several
shots throughout the exported video flashes between white and grey.

I've never had trouble exporting anything to H264, I have the correct
QuickTime and nothing has changed on my system. I exported other videos to
H264 after this problem and they're fine. I've tried exporting this video
with several combinations of H264 settings and I always get exactly the same
result.

I tried exporting the video to DNHD and the problem does not exist there,
however, there is a different flashing where the edges of the blown out
whites meet other darker objects in the frame. I brought the whites way down
to see if it would resolve the issue, but it did not. I've included a link
to a short excerpt from the H264 and the DNHD exports. I hope someone can
help. Thanks!

H264 (Problem starts on the 3rd shot in:

http://vimeo.com/10138701

DNHD (Problem starts on the 2nd shot in:

http://vimeo.com/10138713

Les Nagy

Chicago

lnagy@maladaahn.com

www.Maladaahn.com

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: 3D monitors and finishing

How's the couch working out?

Quinton Lee, MIS
Q.A. Lee Consulting
Helping People and Technology Work Together


In a message dated 3/12/2010 10:14:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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I think more women have glasses so they can spot more chores for their
hubbys to do. I have no proof of this only a gut feeling. Oh wait gotta go,
time to take the trash out. ;-)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, RT <huipro@...> wrote:
>
>
> Stats say that over half of all women and about 42% of men wear
> glasses.

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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Avid-L2] Avid files with no bin

Yeah, now I have to play with this. That way I will remember it.

-shane

On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Terence Curren wrote:

> File that under "you learn something new every day". Just tested it
> and it works.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Red Truck"
> <redtruckproductions@...> wrote:
>
> << A quick tip is to let Avid build the data base on the added mxf
> folder and
> > drag the MMOB.mdb index file from the open mxf file from the
> desktop to an
> > empty bin in the Avid project. This will be populated with the
> clips in the
> > mxf folder.>>
>
>
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[Bulk] Re: [Avid-L2] Avid files with no bin

File that under "you learn something new every day". Just tested it and it works.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Red Truck" <redtruckproductions@...> wrote:

<< A quick tip is to let Avid build the data base on the added mxf folder and
> drag the MMOB.mdb index file from the open mxf file from the desktop to an
> empty bin in the Avid project. This will be populated with the clips in the
> mxf folder.>>

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[Avid-L2] H264 Problems With Exported Video

Hello,

I'm exporting a 720p video to H264 from Xpress Pro HD 5.2.7. The video's
high contrast black & white, blown out whites. The white wall in several
shots throughout the exported video flashes between white and grey.

I've never had trouble exporting anything to H264, I have the correct
QuickTime and nothing has changed on my system. I exported other videos to
H264 after this problem and they're fine. I've tried exporting this video
with several combinations of H264 settings and I always get exactly the same
result.

I tried exporting the video to DNHD and the problem does not exist there,
however, there is a different flashing where the edges of the blown out
whites meet other darker objects in the frame. I brought the whites way down
to see if it would resolve the issue, but it did not. I've included a link
to a short excerpt from the H264 and the DNHD exports. I hope someone can
help. Thanks!

H264 (Problem starts on the 3rd shot in:

http://vimeo.com/10138701

DNHD (Problem starts on the 2nd shot in:

http://vimeo.com/10138713

Les Nagy

Chicago

lnagy@maladaahn.com

www.Maladaahn.com

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[Avid-L2] Re: 3D monitors and finishing

Amen.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
Don't delude yourself that this will "save" the industry any more than HD did.
>


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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Avid-L2] Avid files with no bin

A quick tip is to let Avid build the data base on the added mxf folder and
drag the MMOB.mdb index file from the open mxf file from the desktop to an
empty bin in the Avid project. This will be populated with the clips in the
mxf folder.


Robert Alsop
@ Red Truck
www.redtruckproductions
Video Delivered!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rupert Watson" <rupert@root6.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 5:39 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Avid-L2] Avid files with no bin


> That is the way I always do it, but you need to make sure the folder you
> make is named with a number.
> Rupert Watson
> www.root6.com
> +44 7787 554 801
>
>
>
>> From: Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com>
>> Reply-To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:34:19 -0800
>> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Avid files with no bin
>>
>> The brilliant suggestion from the archives. Load the media into its
>> own MXF folder, open Avid and a new bin, drag the MMOB file to the
>> bin. And it worked. All clips are now in the bin and link up.
>> Amazing.
>>
>> Lou
>> On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Lou Wirth wrote:
>>
>>> Trying. Its a guy who knows a guy who has a friend in England where
>>> it came from. Yikes.
>>> On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Shane Ross wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have them email you the bin.
>>>>
>>>> -shane
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Dave Spraker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Get smarter clients?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Spraker
>>>>> Account Executive & Avid Specialist
>>>>> Professional Video and Tape
>>>>> 503.810.3642 - cell
>>>>> AIM: dAVID at PVT
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Lou Wirth
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:28 AM
>>>>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> Subject: [Avid-L2] Avid files with no bin
>>>>>
>>>>> Client just dropped off a drive with a folder of Avid Media files
>>> in
>>>>> it. No project or bin. This is footage to supplement our current
>>>>> project. I know I can drag the media files into my MXF folder but
>>>>> won't have a bin to reference. Is there a better way than
>>> shopping in
>>>>> the media tool and dragging to a new bin?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Lou
>>>>> Lou Wirth Productions
>>>>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>>>>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
>>>>> www.louwirth.com
>>>>> 415-924-9411p
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>
>>
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[Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

> No. Why else would I be recommending ti to Greg?
Perhaps part of an evil plan to sabotage the competition who have gone "Mac"? Allowing your PC based infrastructure to rule the world!!! ;-) Thanks for all the info. Really makes me want to be back on a terrablock.


--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
>
>
> <<Is there still issues with Macs on fibre when trying to do the multi write/ project sharing? >>
>
> No. Why else would I be recommending ti to Greg?
>
> http://www.facilis2.com/
>


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[Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:


<<Is there still issues with Macs on fibre when trying to do the multi write/ project sharing? >>

No. Why else would I be recommending ti to Greg?

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[Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

Is there still issues with Macs on fibre when trying to do the multi write/ project sharing? I remember it was only working over Ethernet for mac clients a while back.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
>
> <<So when you create a terrablock "volume", is that the correct term?, do you decide if it is a multi write volume at that point?>>
>
> After you create it, you can change it to Multi Write.
>
> <<Can that be altered later like the raid choices are/were.>>
>
> Yes
>
> <<What would be the reason to make a volume multi write or not?>>
>
> Existing volumes might want to be changed. Maybe someone doesn't want to share and just wants it on their computer. And finally, ProTools doesn't like network drives. (The same reason it doesn't really work with Unity)
>
> <<Is there a speed trade off or some other reason?>>
>
> There may be some limits to the number of streams of uncompressed HD. I'm not sure on that. Still far surpasses Unity, Isis, XSAN, EditShare, etc. for bandwidth.
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[Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:

<<So when you create a terrablock "volume", is that the correct term?, do you decide if it is a multi write volume at that point?>>

After you create it, you can change it to Multi Write.

<<Can that be altered later like the raid choices are/were.>>

Yes

<<What would be the reason to make a volume multi write or not?>>

Existing volumes might want to be changed. Maybe someone doesn't want to share and just wants it on their computer. And finally, ProTools doesn't like network drives. (The same reason it doesn't really work with Unity)

<<Is there a speed trade off or some other reason?>>

There may be some limits to the number of streams of uncompressed HD. I'm not sure on that. Still far surpasses Unity, Isis, XSAN, EditShare, etc. for bandwidth.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

So when you create a terrablock "volume", is that the correct term?, do you decide if it is a multi write volume at that point? Can that be altered later like the raid choices are/were. What would be the reason to make a volume multi write or not? Is there a speed trade off or some other reason? Of course two tin cans and a string would be enough to get me off the SanMP if I had anything to say about it.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> It's interesting how it works. For the most part, it appears and operates just like Unity. Right down to sharing within the project.
>
> With the Multi write function, Terrablock serves up the drives as network drives. So Macs and PCs don't see formatting. However, you need to actually format the drive at some point, and as long as you do it NTFS, it is handled by the server without issue. If you wanted to format the HFS, the server has to have the latest version of MacDrive installed so it can handle the formatting.
>
> You would only need this if you planned to change the drive from multi write to a regular drive at some point. So you might not need Mac Drive after all.
>
> Of course, in the real world clients bring in drives of all flavors so having MacDrive on your edit systems might be a necessity as it is in our universe.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Spraker" <avid@> wrote:
> >
> > Have you tried it yet? I see in the release notes that Mac Drive is still a
> > requirement.
> >
> > Dave Spraker
> > Account Executive & Avid Specialist
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> > 503.810.3642 - cell
> > AIM: dAVID at PVT
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Terence Curren
> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:52 PM
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS
> >
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > Pony up for he Terrablock upgrade. Cross platform file level locking. Solve
> > a lot of those problems.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> .com, Greg
> > Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone using Paragon NTFS with Avid these days? If so, how's that
> > > working for you?
> > >
> > > We tried it a few years ago, unsatisfactorily, but need that type of
> > > solution again...
> > >
> > > gh
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Greg Huson
> > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > Post Production / Production
> > > Culver City, CA
> > > 323 677 2092
> > > 323 677 2096 F
> > > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > www.SecretHQ.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Greg Huson wrote:

> but that doesn't help me copy from an HFS+ drive to an NTFS drive on a
> mac... Or does it?


I tried the Paragon 7.x a few months back to get from HFS+ (internal
SATA) to NTFS (external USB) on a Leopard machine. Whatever I did
wrong I couldn't see the files when I mounted the external NTFS-
formatted drive on a regular PC (WinXP) I saw *something* but it
wasn't the few gigs of media I tested with.

Fortunately the end-user had MacDrive on their PC so I reformatted the
external to HFS+ and let it go at that. Never did figure out what
went wrong.

There's also this: http://www.tuxera.com/ which I've not yet tried
in its commercial configuration.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

It's interesting how it works. For the most part, it appears and operates just like Unity. Right down to sharing within the project.

With the Multi write function, Terrablock serves up the drives as network drives. So Macs and PCs don't see formatting. However, you need to actually format the drive at some point, and as long as you do it NTFS, it is handled by the server without issue. If you wanted to format the HFS, the server has to have the latest version of MacDrive installed so it can handle the formatting.

You would only need this if you planned to change the drive from multi write to a regular drive at some point. So you might not need Mac Drive after all.

Of course, in the real world clients bring in drives of all flavors so having MacDrive on your edit systems might be a necessity as it is in our universe.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Spraker" <avid@...> wrote:
>
> Have you tried it yet? I see in the release notes that Mac Drive is still a
> requirement.
>
> Dave Spraker
> Account Executive & Avid Specialist
> Professional Video and Tape
> 503.810.3642 - cell
> AIM: dAVID at PVT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Terence Curren
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:52 PM
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS
>
>
> Greg,
>
> Pony up for he Terrablock upgrade. Cross platform file level locking. Solve
> a lot of those problems.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> .com, Greg
> Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone using Paragon NTFS with Avid these days? If so, how's that
> > working for you?
> >
> > We tried it a few years ago, unsatisfactorily, but need that type of
> > solution again...
> >
> > gh
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Greg Huson
> > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > Post Production / Production
> > Culver City, CA
> > 323 677 2092
> > 323 677 2096 F
> > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > www.SecretHQ.com
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[Avid-L2] Re: 3D monitors and finishing

I think more women have glasses so they can spot more chores for their hubbys to do. I have no proof of this only a gut feeling. Oh wait gotta go, time to take the trash out. ;-)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, RT <huipro@...> wrote:
>
>
> Stats say that over half of all women and about 42% of men wear
> glasses.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: 3D monitors and finishing

An excellent point- one of many you just made, Terry.

Stats say that over half of all women and about 42% of men wear
glasses. At least 12% of the population are assumed to have binocular
problems which effect depth perception. Those are potential 3D
roadblocks that no amount of hype will change.

Between 4-10% are considered "3D challenged" due to profound sight
issues, color blindness, binocular issues or some other reason. Some
folks even have 20/20 vision but still don't "get it". For them, it's
in the brain.

So it's possible that 20 out of 100 people may not be able to enjoy the
full 3D ride.

The remaining 80% just get headaches.

RT

Terence Curren wrote:

>
>
>
> Couldn't have said it better myself David. Actually you just hit most
> of my arguments. You just left out the fact there is some percentage
> (statistics vary on this) of folks for who the whole 3D thing doesn't
> work.
>
> But none of this matters because the nabobs in charge at studios just
> hear "3D added 8 percent to ticket sales last year" and any form of
> logic goes out the door.
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: 3D monitors and finishing

Oh jeez- just SHOOT ME NOW!!


Les Nagy wrote:

>
>
> More recent, post-NAB article:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ycqljbw <http://tinyurl.com/ycqljbw>
>
> Crazy!
>
> Les Nagy
> Chicago
> lnagy@maladaahn.com <mailto:lnagy%40maladaahn.com>
> www.Maladaahn.com
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "switthaus" <switthaus@...> wrote:
> >
> > this link:
> >
> >
> http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/20/panasonic-developing-1080p-twin-lens-p2-camcorder-for-native-3d/
> <http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/20/panasonic-developing-1080p-twin-lens-p2-camcorder-for-native-3d/>
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Paragon NTFS

Thanks. That's the result we had when using it a year or two ago.
Fine for copying media but too slow for editing. In this case, I just
need it to copy media - but was hoping editing was possible now, too.

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On Mar 12, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Richard Kelly wrote:

> Hi Greg,
>
> I'm using Paragon NTFS and it does work well for copying media, but
> there is a significant performance drop if you are using it within MC.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Kelly
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> Greg Huson wrote:
> >
> >
> > Anyone using Paragon NTFS with Avid these days? If so, how's that
> > working for you?
> >
> > We tried it a few years ago, unsatisfactorily, but need that type of
> > solution again...
> >
> > gh
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Greg Huson
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> > 323 677 2096 F
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Paragon NTFS

Hi Greg,

I'm using Paragon NTFS and it does work well for copying media, but
there is a significant performance drop if you are using it within MC.

Regards,

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Greg Huson wrote:
>
>
> Anyone using Paragon NTFS with Avid these days? If so, how's that
> working for you?
>
> We tried it a few years ago, unsatisfactorily, but need that type of
> solution again...
>
> gh
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Greg Huson
> Secret Headquarters, Inc
> Post Production / Production
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> 323 677 2096 F
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> greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> www.SecretHQ.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

err... uh... John's pretty much got my problem pegged. So, uhm, what
do we get from the terrablock upgrade? And what version of MacDrive
are you running? I honestly wouldn't mind going back to a PC, at
least for the symphony. We went mostly - mac when we had to add final
cut to the mix. All ours systems have both FCP and Avid.

gh
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On Mar 12, 2010, at 3:30 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:

> I'm confused here. Paragon is to have complete access to an NTFS
> volume from a Mac, right? Since Greg is primarily a Mac house I
> assume he wants to use NTFS volumes on a Mac Avid. Does the
> Terrablock upgrade allow NTFS Volumes on the Terrablock to be
> accessed with full read write access from a Mac. Is that what the
> upgrade helps with? What if the client comes in with an NTFS
> portable drive? Other than copying the media to a terrablock volume
> is there some other way the terrablock upgrade facilitates an NTFS
> portable client drive being used on a Mac avid?
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > Pony up for he Terrablock upgrade. Cross platform file level
> locking. Solve a lot of those problems.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone using Paragon NTFS with Avid these days? If so, how's that
> > > working for you?
> > >
> > > We tried it a few years ago, unsatisfactorily, but need that
> type of
> > > solution again...
> > >
> > > gh
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Greg Huson
> > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > Post Production / Production
> > > Culver City, CA
> > > 323 677 2092
> > > 323 677 2096 F
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> > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

I've got it. (haven't installed it yet...)

but that doesn't help me copy from an HFS+ drive to an NTFS drive on a
mac... Or does it?

So, you're saying, the terrablock upgrade is something I should do?
I've had the software for about 6 months, and promised them I'd use
it... but 3.x works so well for us I haven't tried it. So, if you're
listening, Jim, this is me, all excited about 4.x!

gh
----------------------------------------------------
Greg Huson
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Post Production / Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092
323 677 2096 F
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On Mar 12, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Terence Curren wrote:

> Greg,
>
> Pony up for he Terrablock upgrade. Cross platform file level
> locking. Solve a lot of those problems.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@...> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone using Paragon NTFS with Avid these days? If so, how's that
> > working for you?
> >
> > We tried it a few years ago, unsatisfactorily, but need that type of
> > solution again...
> >
> > gh
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Greg Huson
> > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > Post Production / Production
> > Culver City, CA
> > 323 677 2092
> > 323 677 2096 F
> > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > www.SecretHQ.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
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[Avid-L2] Error opening bin

getting the following error when opening bin

Unable to open file 'bin'. Not enough adjacent material to create
transition.

Funny thing. I know that there are only master clips in that bin. No
sequences. No titles. No saved effects. Just master clips. From
tape.

Any ideas?

Project is a 1080 23.976

Jay


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[Avid-L2] Re: 3D monitors and finishing

More recent, post-NAB article:

http://tinyurl.com/ycqljbw

Crazy!

Les Nagy
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--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@...> wrote:
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> this link:
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/20/panasonic-developing-1080p-twin-lens-p2-camcorder-for-native-3d/


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[Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

I'm confused here. Paragon is to have complete access to an NTFS volume from a Mac, right? Since Greg is primarily a Mac house I assume he wants to use NTFS volumes on a Mac Avid. Does the Terrablock upgrade allow NTFS Volumes on the Terrablock to be accessed with full read write access from a Mac. Is that what the upgrade helps with? What if the client comes in with an NTFS portable drive? Other than copying the media to a terrablock volume is there some other way the terrablock upgrade facilitates an NTFS portable client drive being used on a Mac avid?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> Pony up for he Terrablock upgrade. Cross platform file level locking. Solve a lot of those problems.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone using Paragon NTFS with Avid these days? If so, how's that
> > working for you?
> >
> > We tried it a few years ago, unsatisfactorily, but need that type of
> > solution again...
> >
> > gh
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Greg Huson
> > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > Post Production / Production
> > Culver City, CA
> > 323 677 2092
> > 323 677 2096 F
> > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > www.SecretHQ.com
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

Have you tried it yet? I see in the release notes that Mac Drive is still a
requirement.

Dave Spraker
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-----Original Message-----
From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Terence Curren
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:52 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS


Greg,

Pony up for he Terrablock upgrade. Cross platform file level locking. Solve
a lot of those problems.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> .com, Greg
Huson <Greg@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone using Paragon NTFS with Avid these days? If so, how's that
> working for you?
>
> We tried it a few years ago, unsatisfactorily, but need that type of
> solution again...
>
> gh
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Greg Huson
> Secret Headquarters, Inc
> Post Production / Production
> Culver City, CA
> 323 677 2092
> 323 677 2096 F
> www.DigitalServiceStation.com
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> www.SecretHQ.com


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[Avid-L2] Re: 3D monitors and finishing

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Pat" <pat@...> wrote:


<<But I have a strong feeling 3D will be the next big step in our post business and frankly at the moemnt we need it!>>

If 3D becomes common, the kid down the street will be doing it in his basement. Don't delude yourself that this will "save" the industry any more than HD did.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Paragon NTFS

Greg,

Pony up for he Terrablock upgrade. Cross platform file level locking. Solve a lot of those problems.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone using Paragon NTFS with Avid these days? If so, how's that
> working for you?
>
> We tried it a few years ago, unsatisfactorily, but need that type of
> solution again...
>
> gh
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Greg Huson
> Secret Headquarters, Inc
> Post Production / Production
> Culver City, CA
> 323 677 2092
> 323 677 2096 F
> www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> www.SecretHQ.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Avid files with no bin

Elegant, as long as you move all the files to the target drive MXF
Folder first, otherwise this requires 2 lengthy database rebuilds.

RT


Lou Wirth wrote:

>The brilliant suggestion from the archives. Load the media into its
>own MXF folder, open Avid and a new bin, drag the MMOB file to the
>bin. And it worked. All clips are now in the bin and link up.
>Amazing.
>
>Lou
>On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Lou Wirth wrote:
>
>
>
>>Trying. Its a guy who knows a guy who has a friend in England where
>>it came from. Yikes.
>>On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Shane Ross wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Have them email you the bin.
>>>
>>>-shane
>>>
>>>On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Dave Spraker wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Get smarter clients?
>>>>
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>>>>Account Executive & Avid Specialist
>>>>Professional Video and Tape
>>>>503.810.3642 - cell
>>>>AIM: dAVID at PVT
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On
>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>Lou Wirth
>>>>Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:28 AM
>>>>To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>>>>Subject: [Avid-L2] Avid files with no bin
>>>>
>>>>Client just dropped off a drive with a folder of Avid Media files
>>>>
>>>>
>>in
>>
>>
>>>>it. No project or bin. This is footage to supplement our current
>>>>project. I know I can drag the media files into my MXF folder but
>>>>won't have a bin to reference. Is there a better way than
>>>>
>>>>
>>shopping in
>>
>>
>>>>the media tool and dragging to a new bin?
>>>>
>>>>thanks
>>>>Lou
>>>>Lou Wirth Productions
>>>>500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>>>>Corte Madera, CA 94925
>>>>www.louwirth.com
>>>>415-924-9411p
>>>>
>>>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>>>>
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[Avid-L2] Re: 3D monitors and finishing

I've seen "no glasses" 3D tv and it's amazing. It's poor quality currently and the rendering of the media to make it work a lot of work but it will improve.
3D glasses will be the way for a while but no glasses 3D TV is possible and will happen...

There are a lot of sceptics and rightly so. But I have a strong feeling 3D will be the next big step in our post business and frankly at the moemnt we need it!


--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@...> wrote:
>
> >
> No one knows. But I'll say this again -- until we have in-home 3D WITHOUT THE NEED FOR GLASSES, the medium will not take off in a major way. Now with true mass-market penetration. Otherwise it's easy to imagine all those 3D glasses you get with the purchase of a 3D capable TV getting buried in a box in the closet along with the pet rock and mood ring.
>
> My $.02
>
> David
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Terence Curren wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@> wrote:
> >
> > <<3D is a wily beast right now. But a great many of us have no -- and will have no -- choice but to get in the ring with it. >>
> >
> > With a great investment of learning (for all of us) and a great investment of money (for some of us). The question is, will there be a return on that investment?
> >
> > Color me skeptical.
> >
> >
>
> David Dodson
> davidadodson@...
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Avid files with no bin

That is the way I always do it, but you need to make sure the folder you
make is named with a number.
Rupert Watson
www.root6.com
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> From: Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com>
> Reply-To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:34:19 -0800
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Avid files with no bin
>
> The brilliant suggestion from the archives. Load the media into its
> own MXF folder, open Avid and a new bin, drag the MMOB file to the
> bin. And it worked. All clips are now in the bin and link up.
> Amazing.
>
> Lou
> On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Lou Wirth wrote:
>
>> Trying. Its a guy who knows a guy who has a friend in England where
>> it came from. Yikes.
>> On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Shane Ross wrote:
>>
>>> Have them email you the bin.
>>>
>>> -shane
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Dave Spraker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Get smarter clients?
>>>>
>>>> Dave Spraker
>>>> Account Executive & Avid Specialist
>>>> Professional Video and Tape
>>>> 503.810.3642 - cell
>>>> AIM: dAVID at PVT
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Lou Wirth
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:28 AM
>>>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: [Avid-L2] Avid files with no bin
>>>>
>>>> Client just dropped off a drive with a folder of Avid Media files
>> in
>>>> it. No project or bin. This is footage to supplement our current
>>>> project. I know I can drag the media files into my MXF folder but
>>>> won't have a bin to reference. Is there a better way than
>> shopping in
>>>> the media tool and dragging to a new bin?
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> Lou
>>>> Lou Wirth Productions
>>>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>>>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
>>>> www.louwirth.com
>>>> 415-924-9411p
>>>>
>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
>> www.louwirth.com
>> 415-924-9411p
>>
>>
>>
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