Saturday, November 6, 2021

Re: [Avid-L2] Disappearing Renders

Is this system connected to Media Central / Interplay?  That completely changes the game on media indexing. If your Render Workspace isn't connected to the media indexer correctly, your media files will go there but will go offline as soon as you restart your local workstation. JB 


On Nov 6, 2021, at 11:37 AM, C. Hess <cfh3media@gmail.com> wrote:

John, it's worth a try!
A support ticket is the next option.
I am on a workstation, nothing shared.
I am going to try to throw the renders
to a different drive and see what that does.

On Nov 5, 2021, at 7:33 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I've been on a Nexis with MC 2018.12.15 this week and there is a render workspace.  All of a sudden my renders would crank out and then disappear.  It happened twice on 20 minute long render of several 1 minute safe color effects.  Then I did one effect and it stuck but then a few minutes later, maybe after a shut down and restart it disappeared as well.  I found the media files on the render workspace.  I deleted the media database files but they didn't rebuild like normal.  I pulled the one mxf subfolder out of the mxf folder and forced avid to create a new one.  Then I dragged all the files  back into the newly created subfolder.  Database rebuilt and voila the renders popped up online.  This may not be your problem but maybe a database recreation and or creation of a new subfolder on your external SSD might get rid of some funkiness.  I've not spent much time on Nexis platforms but I think little quirks like this are more common on shared storage than on my usual online dedicated storage systems.

Re: [Avid-L2] Disappearing Renders

John, it's worth a try!
A support ticket is the next option.
I am on a workstation, nothing shared.
I am going to try to throw the renders
to a different drive and see what that does.

On Nov 5, 2021, at 7:33 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I've been on a Nexis with MC 2018.12.15 this week and there is a render workspace.  All of a sudden my renders would crank out and then disappear.  It happened twice on 20 minute long render of several 1 minute safe color effects.  Then I did one effect and it stuck but then a few minutes later, maybe after a shut down and restart it disappeared as well.  I found the media files on the render workspace.  I deleted the media database files but they didn't rebuild like normal.  I pulled the one mxf subfolder out of the mxf folder and forced avid to create a new one.  Then I dragged all the files  back into the newly created subfolder.  Database rebuilt and voila the renders popped up online.  This may not be your problem but maybe a database recreation and or creation of a new subfolder on your external SSD might get rid of some funkiness.  I've not spent much time on Nexis platforms but I think little quirks like this are more common on shared storage than on my usual online dedicated storage systems.

Friday, November 5, 2021

Re: [Avid-L2] Disappearing Renders

I've been on a Nexis with MC 2018.12.15 this week and there is a render workspace.  All of a sudden my renders would crank out and then disappear.  It happened twice on 20 minute long render of several 1 minute safe color effects.  Then I did one effect and it stuck but then a few minutes later, maybe after a shut down and restart it disappeared as well.  I found the media files on the render workspace.  I deleted the media database files but they didn't rebuild like normal.  I pulled the one mxf subfolder out of the mxf folder and forced avid to create a new one.  Then I dragged all the files  back into the newly created subfolder.  Database rebuilt and voila the renders popped up online.  This may not be your problem but maybe a database recreation and or creation of a new subfolder on your external SSD might get rid of some funkiness.  I've not spent much time on Nexis platforms but I think little quirks like this are more common on shared storage than on my usual online dedicated storage systems.
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[Avid-L2] Disappearing Renders

I posted about this  little while ago.
Thought I had it solved,
when I updated Boris Red to last 64 bit version.

Nope.

I am on MC 2018.9
on a 27" iMac, Mojave, 32GB RAM.

I render Boris Effects, plays as should.
The next time I open the project,
renders are gone.  

This also happens with Pan and Zoom renders.
This was started years ago.  Don't use P&Z
anymore, it goes to AE.

But I am trying to avoid recreating elsewhere,
AE or whatever.

The drive the Media Files live on
is an external SSD, plenty of space.
These renders are either not saved correctly
or somehow get disconnected.

I have run Repair Sequence,
restarted, deleted usual database files etc.

I am outta ideas, any suggestions?


Chip Hess
CFH3 Media



Re: [Avid-L2] Effects Mode

I feel better knowing I’m not the only one experiencing this.  It’s very annoying and messes with my brain flow.  I’ve been editing on Avid since 1992 and it’s impossible to think steps ahead when I have to go backwards every time.  I’m downgrading to 2021.5, where it works, unless someone has a solution. 


I have mapped the Effects mode to a button and can do the keyboard but this does not change the mode, only pops up the Effects editor.

Also when I tried the Avid tech support folks they basically told me I didn’t know what I was doing and didn’t know how to place the cursor on the effect and select the track.  I do. They were not helpful.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Effects Mode

Coming in late - I think Randy's problem is the entire Effects workspace is blank rather than just the Effect Editor blank? Correct me if wrong. I have something similar with a custom workspace in 2021.9. It's for browsing so the Timeline has been closed and replaced with a large SOurce Browser. despit many saves, every time I choose this workspace after a fresh launch, the browser is much smaller than how I saved it. I do, as Randy does, choose 'Restore to Saved' at which point the workspace looks like the way I saved it. In 2021.9 there are options 'Open in last known state' or 'Open in last saved state' (the wording my not be right) but these choices don't seem to help.

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Anyone have a fix for this?  

When I select the Effects
mode on the Workspace Bar it launches the interface blank.  I have to reset it to either a Restore to default or Restore to saved, then the interface appears. I have to do this EVERY TIME.  It started with 2021.6. I reverted to 2021.5 and the problem vanished but was back with 2021.9

Avid's solution was to revert back to 2021.5 

Thursday, November 4, 2021

Re: [Avid-L2] Effects Mode

That sounds correct but if I have the effect track highlighted and just position at the effect switching to effects mode shows the proper effects window.  With the same position and track highlighted the same doesn't happen when I'm switching from color correction directly to effects mode the window is often blank.  If I round trip back to edit and then to effects mode the window is correct.  In my case perhaps there is some subtle architecture under the hood that loses touch with the highlighted track when coming directly from color correction to effects.  Just guessing out loud.  I'll see if I can create a repeatable scenario when I'm back on the system.  I think you are onto what may be happening under the hood.
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Re: [Avid-L2] Effects Mode

Isn't it true that you have to have whatever track you want highlighted before you hit Effect Mode, otherwise it will be blank (as it should, because how could MC know what effect you want to adjust)?

Arm the Video track that your clip with effect is on, then hit effect mode. Never a blank Effect mode window again.

Unless you are talking about some other rando bug that I've never seen.

On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 3:05 PM John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:
I see this on MC 2018.12.15 on mac.  I have Source/Record Edit mapped to a keystroke along with Color Correction and Effects Mode.  If I'm in source record and switch to Effects Mode it works.  If I'm in Color Correction Mode and switch to Effects Mode I often, if not always, get the blank Effect Tool Window.  Never really found a solution and I've seen this from time to time for years.

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[Avid-L2] Latest Neat Video AVX for Avid Buggy?

On a mac trashcan with Mojave.  We installed the latest Neat Video Avid plugin for the MC 2018.12.15.  It works sort of wonky.  Some is probably cockpit error but according to another editor at the facility he's seen strangeness too.  I'm more use to the version 4 Neat Video but it's still a bit of a mystery box interface.

What I'm seeing is I'll make a drastic noise setting manually just to see the effect and I apply it.  While in effects mode I see the softening etc but if I switch out to edit mode the effects results disappear and rendering the effect doesn't show any noise reduction.  Then I'll redo the effect and it works but the effects on the shot are much more pronounce when in effects mode than when in edit mode.  It's like the noise reduction effect drops by half the effect when in edit mode.  Has anybody seen this sort of behavior.  I don't recall every seeing this issue on my Ver. 4 Neat Video at home.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] Effects Mode

I see this on MC 2018.12.15 on mac.  I have Source/Record Edit mapped to a keystroke along with Color Correction and Effects Mode.  If I'm in source record and switch to Effects Mode it works.  If I'm in Color Correction Mode and switch to Effects Mode I often, if not always, get the blank Effect Tool Window.  Never really found a solution and I've seen this from time to time for years.
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Re: [Avid-L2] Mac Sandisk Ultrafit USB3 128GB flash drive failure #OffTopic

Sometimes it's more fun to be unrealistic and dig at things.  I find I start to take technical problems personally.  I know for a fact their is an entire division at Apple called the "Mess With John Moore's Serenity Group."  They won't admit it but it's the only way to explain a lot of things.  I often fear the group freelances for drive manufacturers and other high tech companies.



On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 01:39 PM, crispinmholland wrote:
Thanks Karl - I used your Rescue Pro Deluxe but it can only retrieve files off a mounted disk and I can't get the USB disk to mount, or even appear in Disk Utility.

Fortunately, I am informed that not much is lost with it, but it would have been nice to find a programme that could mine it's way through the USB bus and find the disc and enable it to mount... or am I being unrealistically optimistic?
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Re: [Avid-L2] Effects Mode

Pretty annoying, isn't it.  My solution was to map the effect editor
tool to a key (The key that used to change to the Effects Workspace). 
Just hitting that key which opens the Effect Editor Tool seems to mostly
get around the problem.  Almost always, whatever effect I'm parked on is
active in the Effect Tool when it opens.  Hitting the key that opens my
normal Edit workspace closes the tool and puts me back where I was. 
Hope this works for you. Better yet, maybe someone had a real solution.
--J.B.

Randy Edwards via groups.io wrote:
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> Anyone have a fix for this?
>
> When I select the Effects
> mode on the Workspace Bar it launches the interface blank.  I have to
> reset it to either a Restore to default or Restore to saved, then the
> interface appears. I have to do this EVERY TIME.  It started with
> 2021.6. I reverted to 2021.5 and the problem vanished but was back
> with 2021.9
>
> Avid's solution was to revert back to 2021.5
>
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Anyone have a fix for this?  

When I select the Effects
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Avid’s solution was to revert back to 2021.5 

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Re: [Avid-L2] Mac Sandisk Ultrafit USB3 128GB flash drive failure #OffTopic

Thanks Karl - I used your Rescue Pro Deluxe but it can only retrieve files off a mounted disk and I can't get the USB disk to mount, or even appear in Disk Utility.

Fortunately, I am informed that not much is lost with it, but it would have been nice to find a programme that could mine it's way through the USB bus and find the disc and enable it to mount... or am I being unrealistically optimistic?
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Tuesday, November 2, 2021

Re: [Avid-L2] Audio Delay options with Mac Trashcan OS mojavi, MC 2018.12.15 and BM Ultrastudio Mini?

I will look into this tomorrow.  I have monitored the audio out of the Sony PVM-A250 and it is clearly not delaying the audio.  I've been told by Sony Reps that the BVM monitors would add appropriate delay to the audio out.  It seems the A-250 did away with all the monitor settings that increased the panels video processing delay.  In the past the high quality mode delayed my PVM-2541 to be about 2.25 frames late on the picture.  The fast setting was less than a frame IIRC.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 12:52 AM, Job ter Burg (L2) wrote:
It’s not the BMD device that is causing the syn issue, it’s your client monitor.
The Desktop Play Delay setting lets you delay in frames.
The MonConDel and MonConDelayms Console commands let you set a similar delay on your Source/Record monitors, so they are in sync with the delayed audio and the delayed client monitor.
J

On 2 Nov 2021, at 06:39, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I'm finding the audio is approx 51-52 ms early being fed from a BM UltraStudio Mini.  The audio advance only changes approx 1 ms monitoring the xlr audio from the Ultrastudio and taking the audio out of the PVM-A250.  I haven't found any audio delay settings in the BM Video Desktop control panel.  Nor in Avid.  Is the only solution an outputboard audio delay.  I bought a couple Behringer Delay boxes years ago for my home system but they introduced too much hum to use.  I never chased down the ground loop or what caused the hum at home.  Too bad the PVM-A250 doesn't delay it's embedded audio out to match the panels video processing time.
 
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Re: [Avid-L2] Audio Delay options with Mac Trashcan OS mojavi, MC 2018.12.15 and BM Ultrastudio Mini?

It's not the BMD device that is causing the syn issue, it's your client monitor.
The Desktop Play Delay setting lets you delay in frames.
The MonConDel and MonConDelayms Console commands let you set a similar delay on your Source/Record monitors, so they are in sync with the delayed audio and the delayed client monitor.
J

On 2 Nov 2021, at 06:39, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I'm finding the audio is approx 51-52 ms early being fed from a BM UltraStudio Mini.  The audio advance only changes approx 1 ms monitoring the xlr audio from the Ultrastudio and taking the audio out of the PVM-A250.  I haven't found any audio delay settings in the BM Video Desktop control panel.  Nor in Avid.  Is the only solution an outputboard audio delay.  I bought a couple Behringer Delay boxes years ago for my home system but they introduced too much hum to use.  I never chased down the ground loop or what caused the hum at home.  Too bad the PVM-A250 doesn't delay it's embedded audio out to match the panels video processing time.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Monday, November 1, 2021

Re: [Avid-L2] Audio Delay options with Mac Trashcan OS mojavi, MC 2018.12.15 and BM Ultrastudio Mini?

We always take the audio loop out of the broadcast monitor/TV to maintain sync, there is a built in delay in most of these.

 

HTH

 

Mike

 

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Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Audio Delay options with Mac Trashcan OS mojavi, MC 2018.12.15 and BM Ultrastudio Mini?

 

Can you take the SDI or HDMI feed that has imbedded audio and use an external box to extract the audio and feed that to your audio system?

 

Jay

 



On Nov 2, 2021, at 12:39 AM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

 

I'm finding the audio is approx 51-52 ms early being fed from a BM UltraStudio Mini.  The audio advance only changes approx 1 ms monitoring the xlr audio from the Ultrastudio and taking the audio out of the PVM-A250.  I haven't found any audio delay settings in the BM Video Desktop control panel.  Nor in Avid.  Is the only solution an outputboard audio delay.  I bought a couple Behringer Delay boxes years ago for my home system but they introduced too much hum to use.  I never chased down the ground loop or what caused the hum at home.  Too bad the PVM-A250 doesn't delay it's embedded audio out to match the panels video processing time.

 

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

 

Re: [Avid-L2] Audio Delay options with Mac Trashcan OS mojavi, MC 2018.12.15 and BM Ultrastudio Mini?

Can you take the SDI or HDMI feed that has imbedded audio and use an external box to extract the audio and feed that to your audio system?

Jay


On Nov 2, 2021, at 12:39 AM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I'm finding the audio is approx 51-52 ms early being fed from a BM UltraStudio Mini.  The audio advance only changes approx 1 ms monitoring the xlr audio from the Ultrastudio and taking the audio out of the PVM-A250.  I haven't found any audio delay settings in the BM Video Desktop control panel.  Nor in Avid.  Is the only solution an outputboard audio delay.  I bought a couple Behringer Delay boxes years ago for my home system but they introduced too much hum to use.  I never chased down the ground loop or what caused the hum at home.  Too bad the PVM-A250 doesn't delay it's embedded audio out to match the panels video processing time.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

[Avid-L2] Audio Delay options with Mac Trashcan OS mojavi, MC 2018.12.15 and BM Ultrastudio Mini?

I'm finding the audio is approx 51-52 ms early being fed from a BM UltraStudio Mini.  The audio advance only changes approx 1 ms monitoring the xlr audio from the Ultrastudio and taking the audio out of the PVM-A250.  I haven't found any audio delay settings in the BM Video Desktop control panel.  Nor in Avid.  Is the only solution an outputboard audio delay.  I bought a couple Behringer Delay boxes years ago for my home system but they introduced too much hum to use.  I never chased down the ground loop or what caused the hum at home.  Too bad the PVM-A250 doesn't delay it's embedded audio out to match the panels video processing time.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Re: [Avid-L2] BM UltraStudio 4K Mini DownConvert.

If I remember correctly from discussions on Lift Gamma Gain, the only current model that does what you want is the DeckLink 4K Extreme 12G.  Some older discontinued models do as well.
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