Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Audio Question

Thanks Greg & David for pointing me in the right direction.
I guess late afternoon on a Friday is not the optimal time to begin
refreshing old info through one's brain.

Cheers,

B

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On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:35 PM, David Dawkins wrote:

> Ben,
>
> You are looking for EQ not Pitch Shift. The idea is that hum, buzz or
> room noise can be eased out of the signal so as not to be nuisance.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll-off
>
> Enough math there to keep Wilson happy.
>
> The steepness or slope of the roll off is part of the design and can
> be
> variable. You may also find your roll off filter is some one else's
> high
> pass filter.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-pass_filter
>
> Of course some one else's high pass filter might be an unsharp mask
> and
> have no relationship to audio whatsoever.
>
> DD
>
> Benjamin Hershleder wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > OK... who wants to help a dumb old guy?
> > Yes, that'd be me.
> >
> > So... I'm looking for an English translation of the definition
> below,
> > as well as a method to demonstrate it.
> >
> > "Roll-Off:
> > A decrease in audio gain in relation to octaves.
> > For every octave decrease in frequency there is a difference of
> -12dB
> > in audio gain."
> >
> > I thought I had deciphered this and did the following:
> >
> > 1- Created 2 pieces of tone. One was 300Hz and the other was 600Hz,
> > both at -20dB.
> > 2- I put a Pitch Shift plug-in on the 600Hz clip and lowered it 1
> > octave (verified the shift through comparison).
> > 3- Based on the definition above, my hypothesis was that the altered
> > clip would now play back at -32dB. It didn't. It played back at
> -20dB.
> >
> > Any takers?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > B
> >
> > Benjamin Hershleder
> > http://ContactBen.com <http://ContactBen.com>
> > http://Hershleder.com <http://Hershleder.com>
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Audio Question

Ben,

You are looking for EQ not Pitch Shift. The idea is that hum, buzz or
room noise can be eased out of the signal so as not to be nuisance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll-off

Enough math there to keep Wilson happy.

The steepness or slope of the roll off is part of the design and can be
variable. You may also find your roll off filter is some one else's high
pass filter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-pass_filter

Of course some one else's high pass filter might be an unsharp mask and
have no relationship to audio whatsoever.

DD

Benjamin Hershleder wrote:
>
>
>
>
> OK... who wants to help a dumb old guy?
> Yes, that'd be me.
>
> So... I'm looking for an English translation of the definition below,
> as well as a method to demonstrate it.
>
> "Roll-Off:
> A decrease in audio gain in relation to octaves.
> For every octave decrease in frequency there is a difference of -12dB
> in audio gain."
>
> I thought I had deciphered this and did the following:
>
> 1- Created 2 pieces of tone. One was 300Hz and the other was 600Hz,
> both at -20dB.
> 2- I put a Pitch Shift plug-in on the 600Hz clip and lowered it 1
> octave (verified the shift through comparison).
> 3- Based on the definition above, my hypothesis was that the altered
> clip would now play back at -32dB. It didn't. It played back at -20dB.
>
> Any takers?
>
> TIA,
>
> B
>
> Benjamin Hershleder
> http://ContactBen.com <http://ContactBen.com>
> http://Hershleder.com <http://Hershleder.com>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Audio Question

I would propose, not with any youthful self-assurance or anything,
that roll off is not a law, but rather... a label for a function often
added to certain pieces of equipment. For example, a microphone,
might have a bass 'roll off' switch. In the wikipedia definition, it
explains that roll-off is in relation to filter circuits- one further
assumes that your test does not include such a filter.

Maybe.

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On Apr 30, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:

>
>
> OK... who wants to help a dumb old guy?
> Yes, that'd be me.
>
> So... I'm looking for an English translation of the definition below,
> as well as a method to demonstrate it.
>
> "Roll-Off:
> A decrease in audio gain in relation to octaves.
> For every octave decrease in frequency there is a difference of -12dB
> in audio gain."
>
> I thought I had deciphered this and did the following:
>
> 1- Created 2 pieces of tone. One was 300Hz and the other was 600Hz,
> both at -20dB.
> 2- I put a Pitch Shift plug-in on the 600Hz clip and lowered it 1
> octave (verified the shift through comparison).
> 3- Based on the definition above, my hypothesis was that the altered
> clip would now play back at -32dB. It didn't. It played back at -20dB.
>
> Any takers?
>
> TIA,
>
> B
>
> Benjamin Hershleder
> http://ContactBen.com
> http://Hershleder.com
>
> Wear It In Post!
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[Avid-L2] OT: Audio Question

OK... who wants to help a dumb old guy?
Yes, that'd be me.

So... I'm looking for an English translation of the definition below,
as well as a method to demonstrate it.

"Roll-Off:
A decrease in audio gain in relation to octaves.
For every octave decrease in frequency there is a difference of -12dB
in audio gain."

I thought I had deciphered this and did the following:

1- Created 2 pieces of tone. One was 300Hz and the other was 600Hz,
both at -20dB.
2- I put a Pitch Shift plug-in on the 600Hz clip and lowered it 1
octave (verified the shift through comparison).
3- Based on the definition above, my hypothesis was that the altered
clip would now play back at -32dB. It didn't. It played back at -20dB.

Any takers?

TIA,

B

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: good data recovery software for software RAID (stripe) on Windows 7?

See if Virtual Lab can help.
They let you do a small test for free to see if it will work.
It saved me some years ago when other apps failed.
http://www.binarybiz.com/

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On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:58 PM, nat jencks wrote:

> I pretty much know I am screwed but...
> Has anyone used any data recovery software capable of rebuilding a
> software RAID set on windows?
> I'm looking at "r-studio".
>
> I have a stripe set on windows 7 built from 2 disks (windows OS
> stripe), and something has gone haywire and one of the disks shows
> up as a failed dynamic disk, while the other shows up as a foreign
> disk. If I try to import the single foreign disk it warns that the
> otherdisk in the set is missing and data will be lost if I
> continue... So I don't want to.
>
> I've tried mounting the drives on another windows machine, and the
> machine doesn't boot while the disks are both attached... not good.
>
> Sending it out for pro data recovery would probably be prohibitively
> difficult and expensice (it's a big rackmount 12-drive array).
> I can live without the data but don't want to.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> best-
> -Nat
>
>
>

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[Avid-L2] OT: good data recovery software for software RAID (stripe) on Windows 7?

I pretty much know I am screwed but...
Has anyone used any data recovery software capable of rebuilding a software RAID set on windows?
I'm looking at "r-studio".

I have a stripe set on windows 7 built from 2 disks (windows OS stripe), and something has gone haywire and one of the disks shows up as a failed dynamic disk, while the other shows up as a foreign disk. If I try to import the single foreign disk it warns that the otherdisk in the set is missing and data will be lost if I continue... So I don't want to.

I've tried mounting the drives on another windows machine, and the machine doesn't boot while the disks are both attached... not good.

Sending it out for pro data recovery would probably be prohibitively difficult and expensice (it's a big rackmount 12-drive array).
I can live without the data but don't want to.

Thanks in advance!

best-
-Nat

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Jobs throwing down the gauntlet...

Rick <a_pmb_fan@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Adobe was the last major third party developer to fully adopt Mac OS X (Cocoa)?
>
>Um, FCP still isn't Cocoa. So while Adobe maybe the last major third party, Apple would be the last First party developer.
>
>Also, Jobs refers to Adobe as a Second party developer while talking about apps and App developers as Third Party, but then at the end calls Adobe Third Party.
>
>Don't drink the juice Tone.
>
> Rick Emery
>www.rickemery.com
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@hdheaven.co.uk>
>To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 4:58:16 AM
>Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] OT: Jobs throwing down the gauntlet...
>
>
>He makes a powerful argument.
>
>T :)
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>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: 30 April 2010 00:03
>To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com
>Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: Jobs throwing down the gauntlet...
>
>http://www.apple. com/hotnews/ thoughts- on-flash/
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Outsourcing DVD captioning

On 30 Apr 2010, at 14:05 EDT, Terence Curren wrote:

> http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/dvd-captions-made-india-16727

Amazing. Maybe India will also patronize all of their advertisers and
watch all of their fake 3D crap as well (because I sure don't).

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[Avid-L2] HDCAM SR "s" frame rates

Hi guys

For the 5500 or 5800 do I need any special board or hardware to support
playback of "s" frame rates from SRW-1 cameras (s.23.97, s29.97, etc).

Any settings I need to look out for in the deck for proper playback?

Thanks
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[Avid-L2] OT: Outsourcing DVD captioning

http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/dvd-captions-made-india-16727

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: CS5 is shipping.

And the r3d implementation is just f***ing brilliant.

K

On 30. apr. 2010, at 14.10, Rick wrote:

> Buy or try After Effects CS5:
>
> http://blogs.adobe.com/toddkopriva/2010/04/after-effects-cs5-is-here-buy.html
> Rick Emery
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[Avid-L2] OT: CS5 is shipping.

Buy or try After Effects CS5:

http://blogs.adobe.com/toddkopriva/2010/04/after-effects-cs5-is-here-buy.html
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[Avid-L2] Re: OT: Jobs throwing down the gauntlet...

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Rick <a_pmb_fan@...> wrote:

<<Um, FCP still isn't Cocoa.>>

Ahhh, but iMovie is. Hmmm....

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RE: [Avid-L2] OT: Jobs throwing down the gauntlet...

As you say, FCP's not a third party product ;)

I only sipped the juice - I know how bad it can be for you.

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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rick
Sent: 30 April 2010 12:03
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Jobs throwing down the gauntlet...

Adobe was the last major third party developer to fully adopt Mac OS X
(Cocoa)?

Um, FCP still isn't Cocoa. So while Adobe maybe the last major third party,
Apple would be the last First party developer.

Also, Jobs refers to Adobe as a Second party developer while talking about
apps and App developers as Third Party, but then at the end calls Adobe
Third Party.

Don't drink the juice Tone.

Rick Emery
www.rickemery.com

________________________________
From: Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@hdheaven.co.uk>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 4:58:16 AM
Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] OT: Jobs throwing down the gauntlet...

He makes a powerful argument.

T :)

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-----Original Message-----
From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of Terence Curren
Sent: 30 April 2010 00:03
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: Jobs throwing down the gauntlet...

http://www.apple. com/hotnews/ thoughts- on-flash/

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Jobs throwing down the gauntlet...

Adobe was the last major third party developer to fully adopt Mac OS X (Cocoa)?

Um, FCP still isn't Cocoa. So while Adobe maybe the last major third party, Apple would be the last First party developer.

Also, Jobs refers to Adobe as a Second party developer while talking about apps and App developers as Third Party, but then at the end calls Adobe Third Party.

Don't drink the juice Tone.

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Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] OT: Jobs throwing down the gauntlet...

He makes a powerful argument.

T :)

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RE: [Avid-L2] OT: Jobs throwing down the gauntlet...

He makes a powerful argument.

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[Avid-L2] Re: [PR] Intelligent Assistance solves Final Cut Pro Media Management Problems

FCP and MC keep coming closer together in function.

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[Avid-L2] [PR] Intelligent Assistance solves Final Cut Pro Media Management Problems

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: MC v5 & Bus error

as per readme, patch 4.0.5.4 seems to fix bus error on launch.
http://www.avid.com/US/support/downloads/patches<https://ayan.realimage.co.in/owa/redir.aspx?C=23c23b5b68534f8dac42f5fe6ecda93f&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.avid.com%2fUS%2fsupport%2fdownloads%2fpatches>

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[Avid-L2] Re: MC v5 & Bus error

If your talking about main thread buss errors I assume you're on a Mac. I see them on my Imac MCSoft 3.1.3 with no hardware. I usually get 4 to 5 a day. Seems to happen when I'm quickly shuttling JKL back and forth and occasionally when I quit. It doesn't seem to happen when I scrub through a shot with my wacom tablet but JKL's are another story. Don't know if it's been fixed but my understanding of the main thread buss error is it's a very generic mac error and could be from numerous things. Perhaps somebody more mac error aware can chime in.

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> I hope so too! I get bus errors all the time on Nitris connected systems. With all the great new things in MC5 I hope they did some work on this problem. Anyone hear if they addressed this?
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@> wrote:
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> > Would be nice to quit MC5 when it comes out and not get Bus Errors,
> > which I get 90% of the time quiting MC 4x.
> >
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[Avid-L2] Re: MC v5 & Bus error

I hope so too! I get bus errors all the time on Nitris connected systems. With all the great new things in MC5 I hope they did some work on this problem. Anyone hear if they addressed this?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@...> wrote:
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> Would be nice to quit MC5 when it comes out and not get Bus Errors,
> which I get 90% of the time quiting MC 4x.
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[Avid-L2] MC v5 & Bus error

Would be nice to quit MC5 when it comes out and not get Bus Errors,
which I get 90% of the time quiting MC 4x.

Lou
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[Avid-L2] Re: Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

From what've understand there will be another mxf file related to clip which will hold cc and in transfer manager you can select if you want to keep cc when you send to playback or not
As well, not 100% sure :)

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> I'd thought I heard at NAB that you could select which ancillary data to send out, but a lot of it was a blur as there are so many new things in MC5.
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[Avid-L2] Re: Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

I'd thought I heard at NAB that you could select which ancillary data to send out, but a lot of it was a blur as there are so many new things in MC5.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "David" <k27usa@...> wrote:

<< dropping a 3D effect on V1 works great on our older HD MC's
> but on this new S/N DX, the CC appears to be totally bulletproof.>>

It's kind of funny, that is what a lot of us were asking for. The ability to maintain the CC and not lose it once we did anything to the picture.

Of course, FCP has a better solution now separating out the CC so you can even edit it in a third party program. This is why I was interested by the MC5 metadata stuff, but I haven't been able to find out anything about it.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

Nope - thanks, but I tried that...
dropping a 3D effect on V1 works great on our older HD MC's
but on this new S/N DX, the CC appears to be totally bulletproof.

DB

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@...> wrote:
>
> perhaps a mixdown?
> No idea how the CC data is encrypted in HD, but i guess rendering can make
> it go away.
> (QT export / import might also be an alternative)
>
> Bouke (who is very much against removing obscenities from subtitles or CC.
> If the sound is beeped afterwards in a revision, the subs / CC should tell
> that to keep in context....)
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David" <k27usa@...>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:04 PM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Need help with removing CC on S/N DX
>
>
> ooopps - Sorry,
> I negelected to mention that I was refering to HD,
> and yes Terry, I agree, in SD the method you described (I believe a top crop
> in Resize set at + 10 nails it) works like a chapm at removing CC.
>
> Any ideas on HD ??
>
> Thnx
>
> DB
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm guessing you are talking SD here? If so, throw a resize, then crop the
> > top down to remove it. You should be able to see the CC at the top of the
> > frame in your composer monitor.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dave Burke <k27usa@> wrote:
> > >
> > > We need help with removing CC.
> > > We have a new Symphony Nitris DX vers 4.0.5 running on an HP Z800, and
> > > we're looking for a way to defeat the CC only on certain sections of a
> > > program for S&P issues.
> > > With or older MC (vers 3.5.9) all we had to do was drop a 3D or Resize
> > > effect on a ceratin section of V1 - that would effectively defeat, or
> > > eleiminate, the CC for that section.
> > > But it seems with the newer Symphony Nitris DX, that method is NOT able
> > > to remove CC.
> > >
> > > I'm guessing that there must be a way to do this - any thoughts ??
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Dave Burke
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
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[Avid-L2] Re: Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

You have no access to the metadata yet. I believe something was mentioned about that in V5. I'll let you know after the Editors' Lounge this month, unless someone from Avid wants to chime in now.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "David" <k27usa@...> wrote:
>
> ooopps - Sorry,
> I negelected to mention that I was refering to HD,
> and yes Terry, I agree, in SD the method you described (I believe a top crop in Resize set at + 10 nails it) works like a chapm at removing CC.
>
> Any ideas on HD ??
>
> Thnx
>
> DB
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm guessing you are talking SD here? If so, throw a resize, then crop the top down to remove it. You should be able to see the CC at the top of the frame in your composer monitor.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dave Burke <k27usa@> wrote:
> > >
> > > We need help with removing CC.
> > > We have a new Symphony Nitris DX vers 4.0.5 running on an HP Z800, and we're looking for a way to defeat the CC only on certain sections of a program for S&P issues.
> > > With or older MC (vers 3.5.9) all we had to do was drop a 3D or Resize effect on a ceratin section of V1 - that would effectively defeat, or eleiminate, the CC for that section.
> > > But it seems with the newer Symphony Nitris DX, that method is NOT able to remove CC.
> > >
> > > I'm guessing that there must be a way to do this - any thoughts ??
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Dave Burke
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

perhaps a mixdown?
No idea how the CC data is encrypted in HD, but i guess rendering can make
it go away.
(QT export / import might also be an alternative)

Bouke (who is very much against removing obscenities from subtitles or CC.
If the sound is beeped afterwards in a revision, the subs / CC should tell
that to keep in context....)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <k27usa@yahoo.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:04 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

ooopps - Sorry,
I negelected to mention that I was refering to HD,
and yes Terry, I agree, in SD the method you described (I believe a top crop
in Resize set at + 10 nails it) works like a chapm at removing CC.

Any ideas on HD ??

Thnx

DB

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> I'm guessing you are talking SD here? If so, throw a resize, then crop the
> top down to remove it. You should be able to see the CC at the top of the
> frame in your composer monitor.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dave Burke <k27usa@> wrote:
> >
> > We need help with removing CC.
> > We have a new Symphony Nitris DX vers 4.0.5 running on an HP Z800, and
> > we're looking for a way to defeat the CC only on certain sections of a
> > program for S&P issues.
> > With or older MC (vers 3.5.9) all we had to do was drop a 3D or Resize
> > effect on a ceratin section of V1 - that would effectively defeat, or
> > eleiminate, the CC for that section.
> > But it seems with the newer Symphony Nitris DX, that method is NOT able
> > to remove CC.
> >
> > I'm guessing that there must be a way to do this - any thoughts ??
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Dave Burke
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

ooopps - Sorry,
I negelected to mention that I was refering to HD,
and yes Terry, I agree, in SD the method you described (I believe a top crop in Resize set at + 10 nails it) works like a chapm at removing CC.

Any ideas on HD ??

Thnx

DB

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> I'm guessing you are talking SD here? If so, throw a resize, then crop the top down to remove it. You should be able to see the CC at the top of the frame in your composer monitor.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dave Burke <k27usa@> wrote:
> >
> > We need help with removing CC.
> > We have a new Symphony Nitris DX vers 4.0.5 running on an HP Z800, and we're looking for a way to defeat the CC only on certain sections of a program for S&P issues.
> > With or older MC (vers 3.5.9) all we had to do was drop a 3D or Resize effect on a ceratin section of V1 - that would effectively defeat, or eleiminate, the CC for that section.
> > But it seems with the newer Symphony Nitris DX, that method is NOT able to remove CC.
> >
> > I'm guessing that there must be a way to do this - any thoughts ??
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Dave Burke
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

Thanks, but our situation is with tons of legacy material on SAN that will periodically be repurposed - there is some ongoing acqusitions, but mostly shows/movies that have been previously ingested.

We need the ability to be able to go in and selectively delete a sentence or two that may have language issues or obscenities..

DB

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@...> wrote:
>
> A wild guess.
> You can set capture settings to include or not include CC.
> So capture in parts with different settings.
>
> Keep in mind that CC info contains the info as well as display time, so it's
> very well possible the CC info is a few seconds before display time, so make
> sure you have a bit of margin.
>
>
> Bouke
>
> VideoToolShed
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> The Netherlands
> +31 24 3553311
> www.videotoolshed.com
> For large files:
> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Burke" <k27usa@...>
> To: <avid-l2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:02 PM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Need help with removing CC on S/N DX
>
>
> > We need help with removing CC.
> > We have a new Symphony Nitris DX vers 4.0.5 running on an HP Z800, and
> > we're looking for a way to defeat the CC only on certain sections of a
> > program for S&P issues.
> > With or older MC (vers 3.5.9) all we had to do was drop a 3D or Resize
> > effect on a ceratin section of V1 - that would effectively defeat, or
> > eleiminate, the CC for that section.
> > But it seems with the newer Symphony Nitris DX, that method is NOT able to
> > remove CC.
> >
> > I'm guessing that there must be a way to do this - any thoughts ??
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Dave Burke
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

I'm guessing you are talking SD here? If so, throw a resize, then crop the top down to remove it. You should be able to see the CC at the top of the frame in your composer monitor.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dave Burke <k27usa@...> wrote:
>
> We need help with removing CC.
> We have a new Symphony Nitris DX vers 4.0.5 running on an HP Z800, and we're looking for a way to defeat the CC only on certain sections of a program for S&P issues.
> With or older MC (vers 3.5.9) all we had to do was drop a 3D or Resize effect on a ceratin section of V1 - that would effectively defeat, or eleiminate, the CC for that section.
> But it seems with the newer Symphony Nitris DX, that method is NOT able to remove CC.
>
> I'm guessing that there must be a way to do this - any thoughts ??
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dave Burke
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Registry Storage error

Download the one I uploaded to the files section and follow the instructions that are enclosed. This is part of them:

Note: For Windows XP Pro users you must set the Scrubber executable to run in Windows 2000
Compatibility mode. To do so do the following:

a. Navigate to the Scrubber Directory you creating in Step 1.
b. Right click on scrubber.exe and choose Properties
c. Click on the Compatibility tab
d. Check off the "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" option
e. From the pulldown menu choose "Windows 2000"

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Pat" <pat@...> wrote:
>
> Down loaded and tried but the scrubber.exe fails to run with the message that it's windows 2000 only.
> Didn't seem wise to try and trick it into thinking my XP is win2K
> My system hive of the registry is 11 meg in size (the doc states 8 meg or bigger is potentially an issue)
> Does anyone have the registry info needed for a manual scrub?
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Pat" <pat@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > << So does anyone know where the MS or Facilis version can be downloaded for those of us without fibre storage?>>
> >
> > http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=261117&Hilite=scrubber
> >
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

A wild guess.
You can set capture settings to include or not include CC.
So capture in parts with different settings.

Keep in mind that CC info contains the info as well as display time, so it's
very well possible the CC info is a few seconds before display time, so make
sure you have a bit of margin.

Bouke

VideoToolShed
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6512 AS NIJMEGEN
The Netherlands
+31 24 3553311
www.videotoolshed.com
For large files:
http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Burke" <k27usa@yahoo.com>
To: <avid-l2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

> We need help with removing CC.
> We have a new Symphony Nitris DX vers 4.0.5 running on an HP Z800, and
> we're looking for a way to defeat the CC only on certain sections of a
> program for S&P issues.
> With or older MC (vers 3.5.9) all we had to do was drop a 3D or Resize
> effect on a ceratin section of V1 - that would effectively defeat, or
> eleiminate, the CC for that section.
> But it seems with the newer Symphony Nitris DX, that method is NOT able to
> remove CC.
>
> I'm guessing that there must be a way to do this - any thoughts ??
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dave Burke
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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[Avid-L2] Need help with removing CC on S/N DX

We need help with removing CC.
We have a new Symphony Nitris DX vers 4.0.5 running on an HP Z800, and we're looking for a way to defeat the CC only on certain sections of a program for S&P issues.
With or older MC (vers 3.5.9) all we had to do was drop a 3D or Resize effect on a ceratin section of V1 - that would effectively defeat, or eleiminate, the CC for that section.
But it seems with the newer Symphony Nitris DX, that method is NOT able to remove CC.

I'm guessing that there must be a way to do this - any thoughts ??

Thanks in advance,

Dave Burke

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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[Avid-L2] Re: Registry Storage error

Down loaded and tried but the scrubber.exe fails to run with the message that it's windows 2000 only.
Didn't seem wise to try and trick it into thinking my XP is win2K
My system hive of the registry is 11 meg in size (the doc states 8 meg or bigger is potentially an issue)
Does anyone have the registry info needed for a manual scrub?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Pat" <pat@> wrote:
>
>
> << So does anyone know where the MS or Facilis version can be downloaded for those of us without fibre storage?>>
>
> http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=261117&Hilite=scrubber
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: 720p60 to 24

Terence Curren wrote:

>> Does the Avid switch framerates per-clip, or does one pick a single
>> framerate that the Avid conforms playback to?

> adding a 23.98 clip to a 29.97 timeline results in 2:3 pulldown. Going the
> other way, putting a 29.97 clip in a 23.98 timeline is just miraculous. They
> are using the fluidmotion effect,

Great news! Thanks, Terry, Greg, Job, and Ben for the replies.

-Jeff

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[Avid-L2] Re: FR: v5 Interface Settings Back

I don't think we should jump to any conclusions based on an early beta version of the software. Also, I would post this on the "official" Avid forums if you feel strongly about it.

Scott

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger Shufflebottom <rogshuff@...> wrote:
>
> If that is so, the inability to change the filler colour and the I-O colour
> is a reverse step. I've just been defending Avid on the FCP list on the very
> grounds that we can customise the interface in so many ways. i've not had a
> chance to see V5 yet myself.
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cross Post: ACI-L & Avid-L2
> >
> > Hello all on the design teams,
> >
> > I've been wowed with the amazing steps forward in v5, and I applaud
> > you all. However....
> > I just a attended a demo tonight and was disappointed to see that a
> > good portion of the interface customizability has been removed (e.g.
> > project window color, filler color, text color, mark i/o color, button
> > highlight color, button-innards color, etc.).
> >
> > The changes to interface customizability have already created a
> > negative effect: white text with the AMA yellow highlight is
> > impossible to read.
> >
> > Being that we all spend 10 hours+ a day in front of the tool, I would
> > very much like to see that customizability restored.
> > Speaking as both an editor and an instructor, that customization is
> > actually a very helpful feature and its removal is detrimental IMHO.
> >
> > B
> >
> > Benjamin Hershleder
> > http://ContactBen.com
> > http://Hershleder.com
> >
> > Wear It In Post!
> > Fun T-shirts, mousepads & more
> > for Post Production Professionals
> > http://www.WearItInPost.com
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> With Best Wishes,
> Roger Shufflebottom
>
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>
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: Registry Storage error

Thanks for that will give it a spin this afternoon.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Pat" <pat@> wrote:
>
>
> << So does anyone know where the MS or Facilis version can be downloaded for those of us without fibre storage?>>
>
> http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=261117&Hilite=scrubber
>

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