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At various times, individual subscribers volunteered services to the
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Into Avid.com.

In 2005 Due to problems with signal to noise ratio and abusive posters, the Avid-L2 was formed. A year later the Avid-L was discontinued by Avid.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Will QT X play QT reference .movs?

 

Since only 0.0001 % of the world population has a potential use for it, it's not hip, it will not make fast money.

So Apple killed perfectly good technology for no other reason than that other markets are more interesting. (it's not that we don't  pay good money for the software we want / need.)
To all Apple fanboys, get over it, Apple is NOT your friend. (They proved it by making FCP X NOT downwards compatible, screwing everybody in the Pro market.)

Bouke

Edit 'B / VideoToolShed.com
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6512 AS  Nijmegen
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On 04 Nov 2017, at 03:46, John Pale pale.edit@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


QuickTime X does not support reference movies at all and must convert them to a self contained file. 

I'd move away from reference files when possible, because eventually QuickTime 7 is going to break.  Its on borrowed time.



On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 4:01 PM John Moore bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Just for the heck of it I tried to open a ProResHQ QT reference .mov in QT X and it starts converting.  I can open the self contained version of the .mov I've made with QT 7 without QT X converting.  Given the video essence is ProResHQ which appears to play nice with QT X my conclusion is QT X does not support QT Reference .movs.  Can anyone confirm this.

I virtually never use QT X but have found several clients only have QT X so I need to maintain file compatibility.  Of course I wouldn't send a client a QT Ref .mov but I'm curious to know exactly why QT X choices to convert a ProResHQ QT Ref when I try to open it.

No big problem here but the majority of my googles just result in links to QT converter software.
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net



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[Avid-L2] Re: OT - Studio Recording

 

Most places I work (studios & OBs) use EVS to record, codec usually driven by edit/delivery requirements. So this is typically either AVCIntra100, DNX120, DNX185, XDCam50 or ProRes. DVCProHD is 1440x1080 and DV compression so not seen much lately.

Transfer to edit is either as growing file (if tight turnaround) or closed file. Wrapper is QT or MXF (OP1a or OP-Atom depending on NLE).

Other ingest solutions exist (BBC had open source one - Ingex - but they use EVS)

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Friday, November 3, 2017

Re: [Avid-L2] Will QT X play QT reference .movs?

 

QuickTime X does not support reference movies at all and must convert them to a self contained file. 

I'd move away from reference files when possible, because eventually QuickTime 7 is going to break.  Its on borrowed time.



On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 4:01 PM John Moore bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Just for the heck of it I tried to open a ProResHQ QT reference .mov in QT X and it starts converting.  I can open the self contained version of the .mov I've made with QT 7 without QT X converting.  Given the video essence is ProResHQ which appears to play nice with QT X my conclusion is QT X does not support QT Reference .movs.  Can anyone confirm this.

I virtually never use QT X but have found several clients only have QT X so I need to maintain file compatibility.  Of course I wouldn't send a client a QT Ref .mov but I'm curious to know exactly why QT X choices to convert a ProResHQ QT Ref when I try to open it.

No big problem here but the majority of my googles just result in links to QT converter software.
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Re: [Avid-L2] Qt Prores exports

 

https://backlothelp.netflix.com/hc/en-us/articles/214928598-JES-Extensifier

Had to deal with this with Netflix.  I forget how it works each time and have to google for a tutorial.  Perhaps now that I've posted it I won't have to search so long next time.

According to the Netflix folks I've dealt with JED-Extensifier is the only software they know of to remove the clap atom.  It can be addressed in QT Pro7 and turned off but apparently that's not the same as removing it.  From my limited knowledge the core of the issue is that it is part of the iTunes delivery spec to have the Clap Atom removed.

JES Extensifier is a pretty neat little freebie app but I only plod my way through it to remove Clap Atom.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bouke@...> wrote :

Nige,
What's up with the clean aperture?
What should it be instead?

And, isn't Applescript able to do this all?

Bouke

Edit 'B / VideoToolShed.com
van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
6512 AS  Nijmegen
+31 6 21817248

On 02 Nov 2017, at 19:14, 'Nigel Gourley' avid-l@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hi there

 

It seems everyone wants prores files but there isn't one bit of software that just fits all the requirements… Or is there?

 

We need to be able to remove the clean aperture info – Only JES does this that I can see

Label the tracks – Only QT 7 Pro does this that can see and that is EOL 

 

There are tools like CineXtools but it doesn't fix the clean aperture

 

We just want one tool that makes a Prores to a given spec!

 

Any suggestions..

 

Nige

 

 

 

 



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[Avid-L2] Will QT X play QT reference .movs?

 

Just for the heck of it I tried to open a ProResHQ QT reference .mov in QT X and it starts converting.  I can open the self contained version of the .mov I've made with QT 7 without QT X converting.  Given the video essence is ProResHQ which appears to play nice with QT X my conclusion is QT X does not support QT Reference .movs.  Can anyone confirm this.

I virtually never use QT X but have found several clients only have QT X so I need to maintain file compatibility.  Of course I wouldn't send a client a QT Ref .mov but I'm curious to know exactly why QT X choices to convert a ProResHQ QT Ref when I try to open it.

No big problem here but the majority of my googles just result in links to QT converter software.
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Studio Recording

 

We deliver almost everything as a XDCam50 MXF Op1A file. Our
organization still keeps tape masters so my deliverables include 2 HDCAM
tapes. Most producers also want a playable file so I make them a MP4
with H.264. Requests for DVD's are less frequent but I still get them.
Blurays too.

On the input side, it's the wild west. It seems like camera / recorder
manufacturers / footage suppliers design new variants of codecs and
wrappers every day. Most can be linked (the process formerly known as
AMA) into Media Composer, though finding the correct plugin can be a bit
of a crap shoot. Occasionally, an old fashioned import is a better
bet. Sometimes (my last choice) I resort to transcoding to an Avid
friendly format in AME, Catalyst, Sorenson, Resolve, or whatever I can
find that works. Once or twice, I've just told the producer to get me a
file I can live with. I still capture off tape too, but that has become
very rare. --J.B.

Ronald Loneker rloneker@cse.edu [Avid-L2] wrote:
>
>
> Good Morning -
>
> I am teaching an introductory TV Production class and in the past have
> given a presentation on video recording formats (primarily video tape
> based, so you can see it's been a while since I've taught this class!).
>
> For those of you who work in a studio or TV station, what medium are
> you now using to record shows? Our TV facility here still masters on
> DVCPro right now but I don't know what is most commonly now used and
> then, how easily it's ingested into Avid Media Composer.
>
> This will also be helpful in knowing as we look to possibly upgrade
> our TV Studio in the future.
>
> Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
>
> Ron Loneker, Jr.
> Director, IT Special Projects
> College of Saint Elizabeth
> Henderson Hall, Room 202C
> 2 Convent Road
> Morristown, NJ 07960
>
> Phone: 973-290-4229 <tel:973-290-4229>
>
> e-mail: rloneker@cse.edu <mailto:rloneker@cse.edu>
>
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RE: [Avid-L2] OT - Studio Recording

 

Tape is dead!

 

I would say that 95%+ of all station recording is done to some kind of server – mpeg2 or h.264 I would guess.  But much of the program delivery is via IP now, either FTP or one of the many service that cater to that market.  I have one customer who still makes dubs, but it's only for longform infomercials.

 

Getting stuff into Avid would be a file transfer, perhaps with a transcode in the middle.

 

- Dave

 

dave@spraker.tv

(971) 267-7661

 

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 8:41 AM
To: AVID-L2 List <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Avid-L2] OT - Studio Recording

 

 

Good Morning -

I am teaching an introductory TV Production class and in the past have given a presentation on video recording formats (primarily video tape based, so you can see it's been a while since I've taught this class!).

For those of you who work in a studio or TV station, what medium are you now using to record shows?  Our TV facility here still masters on DVCPro right now but I don't know what is most commonly now used and then, how easily it's ingested into Avid Media Composer.

This will also be helpful in knowing as we look to possibly upgrade our TV Studio in the future.

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.


Ron Loneker, Jr.
Director, IT Special Projects
College of Saint Elizabeth
Henderson Hall, Room 202C
2 Convent Road
Morristown, NJ  07960

Phone:  973-290-4229

e-mail:  rloneker@cse.edu

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Avid-L2] MC perpetual licence w/ dongle for sale

 

I have one extra that I really don't need. So if anyone is looking for a dongled and up to date licence, send me a message. Bids welcome. Support runs out in 14 days, and I'd like to sell this before I need to pay for the renewal. 


Asking the L old-timers first, before I post this on fb. :-)

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Posted by: "Knut A. Helgeland" <kahelia@mac.com>
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Re: [Avid-L2] OSx 12.6 installer

 

thanks
----------------------------------------------------
Greg Huson
Chief
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Production / Post Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092
www.SecretHQ.com
t @SecretHQinc

> On Nov 3, 2017, at 12:44 AM, Michael Hancock mhancockeditor@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Scroll down and click on "Get macOS Sierra". It will open the app store and will take you to the installer download. You can use that to make a USB installer.
>
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208202
>
> On Nov 2, 2017 7:50 PM, "Greg Huson Greg@SecretHQ.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> Anyone know where I can find a 12.6 installer - the kind I can use to do a 'from scratch' install?
>
> Foolishly, I didn't make a thumb drive before the update to 'High Sierra.' Ahrg. The last one I can find in the drawer is 11.9.5??
>
> gh
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Greg Huson
> Chief
> Secret Headquarters, Inc
> Production / Post Production
> Culver City, CA
> 323 677 2092
> www.SecretHQ.com
> t @SecretHQinc
>
>
>

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