Saturday, July 9, 2016

Re: [Avid-L2] Moving PCI SSD Drive to 4 Lane Slot 3 from 16 Lane Slot 2 Mac Pro Performance?

 

No your card is only rated for PCIe 2.0 x2 lanes. 

DQS


On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:58 PM, John Moore bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

On my home system Mid 2012 12 Core MacPro Tower 2.66GHz 64Gig Ram QTX-680 OS 10.9.5 I am planning on adding and expansion chassis to get access to extra GPUs.  My existing system was slot 1 GTX-680, slot 2 16 lane OWC Mercury Accelsior_E2 PCI Express SSD 1TB, Slot 3 Black  Magic SDSDI card, Slot 4 Avid NitrisDX Host Buss Adapter.  In order to put the Expansion Chassis Host Buss Adapter into the Slot 2 for 16 lanes I removed the BM SDSDI card and moved the PCI EXpress SSD to Slot 3.  Everything booted up fine without proceeding with actually connecting the Expansion chassis so so far so good.

My question is regarding putting the PCI Express SSD in Slot 3.  Does this going down to a 4 lane slot have any major impact on the access speed to the SSD.  The manual says 2 lanes will for but 4 lanes or greater.  The card is made for macs so when the manual says x4 speeds or greater I take that to mean 4 lanes or greater.  All available data says this is an okay change.  On the PCI SSD is also two Esata Slots which I use for transport drives.  Down the line I may also get and external disk array that would connect to the ESata port(s).  If I do that does having the card in a 4 lane slot have the potential to throttle back the Esata bandwidth or is 4 lane PCIe way faster than Esata speed so there would be no choking on the Esata ports.  So far it still is working as a computer but I'm trying to understand the internal architecture better and get more of an awareness of PCIe buss speed, lanes and how that relates to Esata and other bandwidth requirements.

Ultimately I intend to install the expansion Chassis with2 TitanX (not mac flashed) GPU cards and the Host Buss Adapter for my DNxIO.  I was told by the folks at macvidcards that I would need to move to OS 10.10 in order for the TitanX cards to work.  Now I don't know if that only applies if I was going to use one of them as the GUI card or if that is based on drivers only being available for the TitanX in 10.10.  Can anyone enlighten me on what potential Nvidia driver concerns I may have with keeping the GTX-680 as my GUI GPU and then having the 2 TitanX cards in the Expansion Chassis.  Is it possible and/or okay to have multiple nvidia drivers to access the two different models of GPU?  I've read over the years how many drivers are included right in the MacOS but sometimes there are specialty needs that require installing and or updating to different versions of nvidia drivers.  I assume even if I'm not using the TitanX GPUs for the GUI the system will still need drivers installed to access the cards.  Is that correct or would BM Resolve and Adobe CS 6 or maybe CC just know to find the cards in the expansion chassis and use them.  Not sure what configuration parameters there are for this.  I do remember having to hack the approved GPU text file to get CS 6 to recognize my GTX-680 card.  I also read that when the Creative Cloud Adobe versions came out they had been updated to recognize and utilize the GTX-680 and other newer cards but I assume my CS6 suite will not be able to take advantage of all the extra GPU horsepower.  This is just my speculation as I have only just begun to research these factors.  Any experience in these area would be of interest and greatly appreciated.
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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[Avid-L2] Moving PCI SSD Drive to 4 Lane Slot 3 from 16 Lane Slot 2 Mac Pro Performance?

 

On my home system Mid 2012 12 Core MacPro Tower 2.66GHz 64Gig Ram QTX-680 OS 10.9.5 I am planning on adding and expansion chassis to get access to extra GPUs.  My existing system was slot 1 GTX-680, slot 2 16 lane OWC Mercury Accelsior_E2 PCI Express SSD 1TB, Slot 3 Black  Magic SDSDI card, Slot 4 Avid NitrisDX Host Buss Adapter.  In order to put the Expansion Chassis Host Buss Adapter into the Slot 2 for 16 lanes I removed the BM SDSDI card and moved the PCI EXpress SSD to Slot 3.  Everything booted up fine without proceeding with actually connecting the Expansion chassis so so far so good.

My question is regarding putting the PCI Express SSD in Slot 3.  Does this going down to a 4 lane slot have any major impact on the access speed to the SSD.  The manual says 2 lanes will for but 4 lanes or greater.  The card is made for macs so when the manual says x4 speeds or greater I take that to mean 4 lanes or greater.  All available data says this is an okay change.  On the PCI SSD is also two Esata Slots which I use for transport drives.  Down the line I may also get and external disk array that would connect to the ESata port(s).  If I do that does having the card in a 4 lane slot have the potential to throttle back the Esata bandwidth or is 4 lane PCIe way faster than Esata speed so there would be no choking on the Esata ports.  So far it still is working as a computer but I'm trying to understand the internal architecture better and get more of an awareness of PCIe buss speed, lanes and how that relates to Esata and other bandwidth requirements.

Ultimately I intend to install the expansion Chassis with2 TitanX (not mac flashed) GPU cards and the Host Buss Adapter for my DNxIO.  I was told by the folks at macvidcards that I would need to move to OS 10.10 in order for the TitanX cards to work.  Now I don't know if that only applies if I was going to use one of them as the GUI card or if that is based on drivers only being available for the TitanX in 10.10.  Can anyone enlighten me on what potential Nvidia driver concerns I may have with keeping the GTX-680 as my GUI GPU and then having the 2 TitanX cards in the Expansion Chassis.  Is it possible and/or okay to have multiple nvidia drivers to access the two different models of GPU?  I've read over the years how many drivers are included right in the MacOS but sometimes there are specialty needs that require installing and or updating to different versions of nvidia drivers.  I assume even if I'm not using the TitanX GPUs for the GUI the system will still need drivers installed to access the cards.  Is that correct or would BM Resolve and Adobe CS 6 or maybe CC just know to find the cards in the expansion chassis and use them.  Not sure what configuration parameters there are for this.  I do remember having to hack the approved GPU text file to get CS 6 to recognize my GTX-680 card.  I also read that when the Creative Cloud Adobe versions came out they had been updated to recognize and utilize the GTX-680 and other newer cards but I assume my CS6 suite will not be able to take advantage of all the extra GPU horsepower.  This is just my speculation as I have only just begun to research these factors.  Any experience in these area would be of interest and greatly appreciated.
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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[Avid-L2] Re: quiet here

 

It was quiet then all these posts about it being quiet...

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Friday, July 8, 2016

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: quiet here

 





Touché!

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On Jul 8, 2016, at 3:10 PM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Didn't you get the memo?  The Avid L2 has been put on forced furlough because the Avid share holders felt we were costing them money with all our expensive feature requests!!!  Also our support needs would definitely cut into the executive bonuses.  I'm surprised you didn't get a direct email from the 6 Million Dollar Man himself. 



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <loutv@...> wrote :

Is it just me or does the list seem quiet? Or was there a change to the new Editor list?
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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: quiet here

 

The ACSR-L has also been quiet, really dead, since 08 June.

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Didn't you get the memo? The Avid L2 has been put on forced furlough because the Avid share holders felt we were costing them money with all our expensive feature requests!!! Also our support needs would definitely cut into the executive bonuses. I'm surprised you didn't get a direct email from the 6 Million Dollar Man himself.

---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <loutv@...> wrote :

Is it just me or does the list seem quiet? Or was there a change to the new Editor list?
Lou
Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
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415-924-9411p

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[Avid-L2] Re: quiet here

 

Didn't you get the memo?  The Avid L2 has been put on forced furlough because the Avid share holders felt we were costing them money with all our expensive feature requests!!!  Also our support needs would definitely cut into the executive bonuses.  I'm surprised you didn't get a direct email from the 6 Million Dollar Man himself.



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <loutv@...> wrote :

Is it just me or does the list seem quiet? Or was there a change to the new Editor list?
Lou
Lou Wirth Productions
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Corte Madera, CA 94925
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Re: [Avid-L2] quiet here

 

it's quiet.


Curtis Nichols
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On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Is it just me or does the list seem quiet?  Or was there a change to the new Editor list?
Lou
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[Avid-L2] quiet here

 

Is it just me or does the list seem quiet? Or was there a change to the new Editor list?
Lou
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Wednesday, July 6, 2016

[Avid-L2] Re: Extreme Transcode time from Panny AVC Intra 4K to DNxHRHQX with Luts baked in?

 

Further transcoding seems to show that if I don't bake in the LUTs on Transcode things go much faster, as I would expect.  I notice when not baking in the LUT the CPU usage indication in Activity monitor is around 2,000 percent showing in Green=User.  When I bake in the LUT the green User percentage is lower, around 900%,  and there is a lot more Red=System CPU usage in the graph.  I assume this means that the number crunching to bake in the LUT is being handled by whatever Activity Monitor deems to be System as opposed to User CPU usage.  Not sure what the means in the whole computer hierarchy but the ultimate result is 4 or more times longer transcodes.



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

I forgot to add when I look at Activity monitor when transcoding on the first project the CPU percentage would run around 2,000% but on this project when baking in the LUT I only see CPU Percentage aroun 900%.  Same drive configurations and types involved as first project.


---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

As I embark on my 2nd True 4K project 4096x2160 shot on Panasonic Varicam35 to AVC Intra 4:2:2 BT. 709 I decided to, unlike my first project, bake in the multiple LUT of the Panasonic Vlog to 709 I got from the Panny website and then a Full Scale to Legal, in that order.  On the first show I chose not to bake in the lut on transcode to DNxHRHQX but the LUT combo is pretty reliable on this multicamera stage show so on this 2nd project I am commiting to the LUT in the hopes that my timeline playback will be a bit more solid.  On the first show I could only playback in Yellow Mode on the timeline which is okay for color correction but not so good for blurring exit signs etc...  I found on the first project once rendered to a safe color limit I could play back the timeline in 10 bit mode.  I'm thinking that it wasn't just the unrendered symphony color correction but also the multi LUTs that contributed to the challenging playback.  I'm hoping by baking in the LUTs I'll be able to have at least a slightly better quality playback during color correction.

There is a bug I've found on my Avid 8.5.2 MacPro tower with NitrisDX OS 10.9.5 related to background renders when LUTs are being used.  This has been confirmed by Avid.  On this new project I found an additional and what seems related bug to this.  When I tried to background transcode baking in the LUTs to DNxHRHQX the resulting media has a band of colored hash at the top of the screen and the raster oscillates between normal size and something like a 400% blowup when the clip plays.  This is slightly different than what I got on the first project when background rendering the safe color limit on the media with multi LUTs.  In both cases the solution is to render or transcode normally.

Regarding the subject line the first night I 10 clips 4 of which are 1 hour and 40 minutes long and I left them transcoding in the background overnight.  I do this because it allows me to setup more than one target drive for different clips to go to different drives as I don't have a single volume large enough to hold all the media transcode.  The process completed in around 12 hours but as mentioned above the media was corrupt.  So now I'm doing a normal transcode but I'm finding that just one single 1 hour 40 minute clip is taking around 13 hours.  I get that baking in the LUTs is adding more processing time but it's very curious that when using background transcode the entire time for all the clips was less than just a single clip transcoded normally.  Granted the background transcodes are messed up so maybe that plays into the differing transcode time.  On the first project where I didn't bake in the LUT the background transcodes were flawless and they took about the same time as what my now messed up background transcodes took.  So I'm wondering is there something super taxing about baking in the LUTs that is creating the much greater transcode times or is there any configuration or setting that is in play?

I have a case with Avid already regarding my initial discovery of the background render but on the first project and I have added this new found behavior to it and emailed Avid yesterday to get some clarification as to if the initial bug was fixed in 8.5.3 or even 8.6.  Curious what others experiences in this regard have been.  I seem to be in a rare case of super long ama linked Panny AVC intra material.  Just linking to a single one of these clips takes around 4 ish minutes for it to populate into the bin.  Hence why I have to transcode to even stand a chance with working with the footage.
 
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Re: [Avid-L2] mc 8.6

 

Surprised there isn't more chatter about 8.6. The Source Browser alone is
fantastic. Some other interesting features , as well

On Wednesday, July 6, 2016, Benjamin Hershleder Ben@ContactBen.com
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> Only a reminder to check if that the OS supported.
> I'm on 10.10.5 and all's been fine (though I'm not taxing the system).
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> On Jul 6, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com
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> About to install 8.6. Anybody run into any issues? Running on a Mac Pro
> OSX 10.9.5.
>
> thanks
> Lou
> Lou Wirth Productions
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> Corte Madera, CA 94925
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> 415-924-9411p
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> Lou Wirth Productions
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Re: [Avid-L2] mc 8.6

 



Only a reminder to check if that the OS supported.
I'm on 10.10.5 and all's been fine (though I'm not taxing the system).

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On Jul 6, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

About to install 8.6. Anybody run into any issues? Running on a Mac Pro OSX 10.9.5.

thanks 
Lou
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