Saturday, April 24, 2021

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

Did you use anything other than the standard PCIe power and the two 6 Pin mini connectors on the mother board to power this GPU?


On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 07:51 AM, <pale.edit@gmail.com> wrote:
I kind of got sick of all the hoops to jump through to get an old school MacPro to work in 2021 and bought a PC.  Couldn’t be happier.   Way cheaper than a new MacPro.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 9:23 AM Pierre <ph@cineaste.org> wrote:
I was going to bitch about the OWC price tag, then I saw the Amazon price... Damn mining!

It would work for what you want it to do. The price is just ridiculous for the power of this card - and its original retail price.

And if you really miss boot screen, google OpenCore MacPro. I've had this on mine for a while and it brings the boot screen back, and also hardware acceleration with the modern Radeon cards. 

 

 

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 4:46 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

Mine does.  

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 4:44 PM John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:
I completely agree.  I may limp with this and when my Resolve work load demands it get a PC and use all my two TitanX GPUs in it.  I would think these Keppler Chipset Titan X GPUs would still work in a newer PC.  I assume my Titan X PCIe might be PCIe 2.0 but my understanding is a PCIe 3.0 back plane will still support PCIe 2.0 cards.  Is that a correct assumption?



On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 07:51 AM, <pale.edit@gmail.com> wrote:
I kind of got sick of all the hoops to jump through to get an old school MacPro to work in 2021 and bought a PC.  Couldn't be happier.   Way cheaper than a new MacPro.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 9:23 AM Pierre <ph@cineaste.org> wrote:
I was going to bitch about the OWC price tag, then I saw the Amazon price... Damn mining!

It would work for what you want it to do. The price is just ridiculous for the power of this card - and its original retail price.

And if you really miss boot screen, google OpenCore MacPro. I've had this on mine for a while and it brings the boot screen back, and also hardware acceleration with the modern Radeon cards. 

 

 

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 4:35 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

I completely agree.  I may limp with this and when my Resolve work load demands it get a PC and use all my two TitanX GPUs in it.  I would think these Keppler Chipset Titan X GPUs would still work in a newer PC.  I assume my Titan X PCIe might be PCIe 2.0 but my understanding is a PCIe 3.0 back plane will still support PCIe 2.0 cards.  Is that a correct assumption?



On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 07:51 AM, <pale.edit@gmail.com> wrote:
I kind of got sick of all the hoops to jump through to get an old school MacPro to work in 2021 and bought a PC.  Couldn’t be happier.   Way cheaper than a new MacPro.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 9:23 AM Pierre <ph@cineaste.org> wrote:
I was going to bitch about the OWC price tag, then I saw the Amazon price... Damn mining!

It would work for what you want it to do. The price is just ridiculous for the power of this card - and its original retail price.

And if you really miss boot screen, google OpenCore MacPro. I've had this on mine for a while and it brings the boot screen back, and also hardware acceleration with the modern Radeon cards. 

 

 

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 1:44 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

I put that RX580 in my old cheesgrater, the highest Mac OS that'll run is Mojave.
Owen


On Apr 10, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Pierre <ph@cineaste.org> wrote:

This whole mining thing is a shame as this GPU was pretty affordable. It's not a power house like your Titan but it started at a good price. Beware as all RX580 don't all have the same form factor and some are covering the Pcie slot above the GPU. The Sapphire is a tight fit but you can still have a card in pcie slot 2 - smaller the better  

you can look at the Vega 56 as an alternative, it's more powerful than the RX580 and still within the power specs of the Mac Pro. Avoid the 64 as it's too hungry.

Now the Radeon VII is an even better option but it's now under the miner's radar so prices are sky rocketing. 


Posted by Video Geek Squad at 10:35 AM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

I kind of got sick of all the hoops to jump through to get an old school MacPro to work in 2021 and bought a PC.  Couldn't be happier.   Way cheaper than a new MacPro.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 9:23 AM Pierre <ph@cineaste.org> wrote:
I was going to bitch about the OWC price tag, then I saw the Amazon price... Damn mining!

It would work for what you want it to do. The price is just ridiculous for the power of this card - and its original retail price.

And if you really miss boot screen, google OpenCore MacPro. I've had this on mine for a while and it brings the boot screen back, and also hardware acceleration with the modern Radeon cards. 

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 7:51 AM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

I was going to bitch about the OWC price tag, then I saw the Amazon price... Damn mining!

It would work for what you want it to do. The price is just ridiculous for the power of this card - and its original retail price.

And if you really miss boot screen, google OpenCore MacPro. I've had this on mine for a while and it brings the boot screen back, and also hardware acceleration with the modern Radeon cards. 
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 6:23 AM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

I googled around and power spec for the card says 500 watts.  I read conflicting specs on what the Mac Pro has power wise.  I read 75 watts through the PCIe bus and 150 watts each through the 6pin mini connectors on the mother board for a total of 375 watts, but someone said they though it was on 75 watts for each of the mother board 6 pin mini connectors.  Did you have any power issues or did you have to do a pixas mod?  I would think even 375 watts would be a bit limiting to a GPU that wants 500 watts


On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 07:54 PM, <pale.edit@gmail.com> wrote:
That’s the identical card I had.  It worked very well and I never missed the boot screen.  

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:24 PM John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:
So I found one on Amazon that I'm going to try.  I've been told it's good bye boot screen but this is my last ditch to keep this Mac Pro alive for front line edit use.

Sapphire Radeon 11265-05-20G Pulse RX 580 8GB GDDR5 Dual HDMI/ DVI-D/ Dual DP OC with Backplate (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card Graphic Cards

 

 


 I also picked up a dual mini 6pin to 8pin power cable:
COMeap Dual Mini 6 Pin to 8 Pin PCI Express Video Card Power Adapter Cable for Mac Pro Tower / Power Mac G5 15-inch(38cm)
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Friday, April 23, 2021

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

The site said OS 10.12.6-10.14 Mojave.
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 9:46 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

I found this:
What Graphics Cards are Compatible with macOS 10.15
  • SAPPHIRE Radeon PULSE RX 580 8GB GDDR5.
  • SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7950 Mac Edition.
  • MSI Gaming Radeon RX 560 128-bit 4GB GDDR5.
  • NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Mac Edition.
  • NVIDIA Quadro K5000 for Mac.
I'm surprised that the GTX-680 Mac Edition works with Catalina.  I have one of these that I just replaced last year to match up Keppler Chip Sets with my TitanX GPUs in the expansion chassis by using a GTX-980Ti 6GB in the macpro tower.

I thought I needed a GPU that supports Metal to go to Mojave 10.14.  Is it nVidia GPUs with Cuda that don't work?  If so how does the GTX-680 still work.  Is that because they wrote code into the Mac OS for it as opposed to the others that required the nVidia Webdriver to work?  I had to go to the nVidia driver so that my Titan X GPUs would be properly recognized.  I had thought all nVidia support vanished after High Sierra 10.13 but the fact that I'm running Mojave on my 2013 iMac with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M 4 GB seems to indicate it's not all nVidia GPUs that don't work.  Is it the Cuda thing or is it like the GTX-680 there is still GPU drivers in the Mac OS?

Once I get the Sapphire Pulse installed could I eventually add another even beefier Radeon GPU in my expansion chassis and have it work like it did with my Titan X GPUs?  I realize that would be throwing money at an old tower but I have a 1500 watt PSU in the expansion chassis so it would have plenty of power to work with.
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 9:46 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

hi,
what OS will run on that? 
Owen's device



On Apr 23, 2021, at 10:54 PM, pale.edit@gmail.com wrote:


That's the identical card I had.  It worked very well and I never missed the boot screen.  

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:24 PM John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:
So I found one on Amazon that I'm going to try.  I've been told it's good bye boot screen but this is my last ditch to keep this Mac Pro alive for front line edit use.

Sapphire Radeon 11265-05-20G Pulse RX 580 8GB GDDR5 Dual HDMI/ DVI-D/ Dual DP OC with Backplate (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card Graphic Cards

Posted by Video Geek Squad at 8:48 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

That's the identical card I had.  It worked very well and I never missed the boot screen.  

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:24 PM John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:
So I found one on Amazon that I'm going to try.  I've been told it's good bye boot screen but this is my last ditch to keep this Mac Pro alive for front line edit use.

Sapphire Radeon 11265-05-20G Pulse RX 580 8GB GDDR5 Dual HDMI/ DVI-D/ Dual DP OC with Backplate (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card Graphic Cards

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 7:54 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

So I found one on Amazon that I'm going to try.  I've been told it's good bye boot screen but this is my last ditch to keep this Mac Pro alive for front line edit use.

Sapphire Radeon 11265-05-20G Pulse RX 580 8GB GDDR5 Dual HDMI/ DVI-D/ Dual DP OC with Backplate (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card Graphic Cards
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 7:24 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Where is my dream GPU???

At OWC I find:

https://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sapphire/112650520G/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_campaign=googlebase&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4ImEBhDFARIsAGOTMj-k7Ciqkr7Kc_4RaBXwjfBJ23Z3Te0wcU7pmBEyHBAq1lYeSYmPEgoaAo5BEALw_wcB

Sapphire

PULSE Radeon RX 580 DirectX 8GB GDDR5
PCIe 3.0 CrossFireX Graphics Card

PCIe / DisplayPort / HDMI / DL-DVI-D

and also

https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/MP1012R580V/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_campaign=googlebase&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4ImEBhDFARIsAGOTMj-oAncRcdnn6Eg_tpp1I24zTqG625p1Q8f75py8lAj36GtnHNWv0NoaAkrfEALw_wcB

OWC

Radeon RX 580 8GB Graphics Upgrade Solution
for Mac Pro (2010-2012)

Mac

Add Metal support to your Mac Pro and upgrade to macOS 10.14.x Mojav


Then at Apple New Mac Pro Config there is:

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro/tower

Radeon Pro 580X with 8GB of GDDR5 memory


How do the OWC GPUs differ  between the Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 and the Radeon RX 580?  Are these just different manufactures of GPUs with the same chip set?  Also how do they differ from the one that comes stock with the New Mac Pro?

If down the line I purchased a New Mac Pro could the OWC cards work with it?  Would there be any benefit to adding one of the OWC cards to a New Mac Pro that comes with a more powerful GPU?  With my mid 2012 I've been told that with multiple GPUs the computer will only use the Vram amount of the GPU with the least amount of Vram.  Is there something like that in the New Mac Pro architecture?

I'm going to ask OWC if I would get a boot screen on my mid 2012 Mac Pro and it that's a difference in the two cards they offer.







On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 06:19 AM, Pierre wrote:

This whole mining thing is a shame as this GPU was pretty affordable. It's not a power house like your Titan but it started at a good price. Beware as all RX580 don't all have the same form factor and some are covering the Pcie slot above the GPU. The Sapphire is a tight fit but you can still have a card in pcie slot 2 - smaller the better  

you can look at the Vega 56 as an alternative, it's more powerful than the RX580 and still within the power specs of the Mac Pro. Avoid the 64 as it's too hungry.

Now the Radeon VII is an even better option but it's now under the miner's radar so prices are sky rocketing.

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