Saturday, November 30, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] [OT] - Seeking: Picture of Trim Bin

 



Thanks for everyone's help.
I'm pleased to announce that...
we have a winner.
Philip Hodgetts has kindly shared a perfect, medium shot of a classic film trim bin.

Thanks again to Phillip and everyone who shared their ideas.

Cheers,

Benjamin


On Nov 30, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@hdheaven.co.uk> wrote:

 

I also found this: julifilm@yahoo.com

Cheers 
Tony 

Sent by magic over t'interweb


On 30 Nov 2013, at 13:45, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@ContactBen.com> wrote:



Thanks Tony.
You and Randy suggested the same pic.
Good eyes you two!

Cheers,

B


On Nov 30, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@hdheaven.co.uk> wrote:

 

Hi Benjamin,

I guess you cou could try to contact Julie Murray (found with Google - no connection).  It's probably the best trim bin image I've seen:
http://julifilm.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/eventful-simultaneity.html

Cheers,
Tony

On 30/11/2013 04:27, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:


Hey Gang,

I'm creating a course for one of the schools where I teach and I'm looking for a good picture of a trim bin that includes film hanging in it.

Would any of you have such a thing? 
And, if so, would you be willing to let me/the school use it in the course?

Thanks for any help or leads.

Cheers,

Benjamin
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Re: [Avid-L2] [OT] - Seeking: Picture of Trim Bin

 

I also found this: julifilm@yahoo.com

Cheers 
Tony 

Sent by magic over t'interweb


On 30 Nov 2013, at 13:45, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@ContactBen.com> wrote:



Thanks Tony.
You and Randy suggested the same pic.
Good eyes you two!

Cheers,

B


On Nov 30, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@hdheaven.co.uk> wrote:

 

Hi Benjamin,

I guess you cou could try to contact Julie Murray (found with Google - no connection).  It's probably the best trim bin image I've seen:
http://julifilm.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/eventful-simultaneity.html

Cheers,
Tony

On 30/11/2013 04:27, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:


Hey Gang,

I'm creating a course for one of the schools where I teach and I'm looking for a good picture of a trim bin that includes film hanging in it.

Would any of you have such a thing? 
And, if so, would you be willing to let me/the school use it in the course?

Thanks for any help or leads.

Cheers,

Benjamin
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Re: [Avid-L2] [OT] - Seeking: Picture of Trim Bin

 



Thanks Tony.
You and Randy suggested the same pic.
Good eyes you two!

Cheers,

B


On Nov 30, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@hdheaven.co.uk> wrote:

 

Hi Benjamin,

I guess you cou could try to contact Julie Murray (found with Google - no connection).  It's probably the best trim bin image I've seen:
http://julifilm.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/eventful-simultaneity.html

Cheers,
Tony

On 30/11/2013 04:27, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:


Hey Gang,

I'm creating a course for one of the schools where I teach and I'm looking for a good picture of a trim bin that includes film hanging in it.

Would any of you have such a thing? 
And, if so, would you be willing to let me/the school use it in the course?

Thanks for any help or leads.

Cheers,

Benjamin
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Re: [Avid-L2] [OT] - Seeking: Picture of Trim Bin

 

Hi Benjamin,

I guess you cou could try to contact Julie Murray (found with Google - no connection).  It's probably the best trim bin image I've seen:
http://julifilm.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/eventful-simultaneity.html

Cheers,
Tony

On 30/11/2013 04:27, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:


Hey Gang,

I'm creating a course for one of the schools where I teach and I'm looking for a good picture of a trim bin that includes film hanging in it.

Would any of you have such a thing? 
And, if so, would you be willing to let me/the school use it in the course?

Thanks for any help or leads.

Cheers,

Benjamin
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Friday, November 29, 2013

[Avid-L2] [OT] - Seeking: Picture of Trim Bin

 



Hey Gang,

I'm creating a course for one of the schools where I teach and I'm looking for a good picture of a trim bin that includes film hanging in it.

Would any of you have such a thing? 
And, if so, would you be willing to let me/the school use it in the course?

Thanks for any help or leads.

Cheers,

Benjamin
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RE: Re: [Avid-L2] Alexa shoot - what TC for the sound?

 

Thanks for the explanation, I thought it was a Majax only feature and that becomes a problem since it requires Mac OS 10.6 and not any of the other flavors of big cats. I'll have a word.


Pierre 



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[Avid-L2] RE: Mixing raw and prores

 

Thanks Job,

They're doing it on location, using Resolve to prep the Avid mediafiles. After a couple of days of trial and errors, it seems that they're now on track. 

The lab doing the reconform at the end has a lot of experience, so they should do fine. And it's only a couple of shots, so worse case scenario will be to deal with them by hand.


Pierre 



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <Job_L2@...> wrote:


Depends on who preps your DNxHD36 rushes. If they can handle it (probably), you're OK. If you have to do the transcoding to DNxHD MXF, then you will probably need the ArriRAW AMA plugin to handle the file.

Also, the post house will need to be able to deal with it. They likely can.

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Thursday, November 28, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] Mixing raw and prores

 


Depends on who preps your DNxHD36 rushes. If they can handle it (probably), you're OK. If you have to do the transcoding to DNxHD MXF, then you will probably need the ArriRAW AMA plugin to handle the file.

Also, the post house will need to be able to deal with it. They likely can.

On 22 nov. 2013, at 14:17, ph@cineaste.org wrote:

DOP says he'd like to shoot one specific shot (an eagle flying, long lense) in RAW format. His question is will it be a problem for the post production?

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Re: [Avid-L2] Alexa shoot - what TC for the sound?

 


On 22 nov. 2013, at 14:11, ph@cineaste.org wrote:

> he said he can't do the rotate

He may not want to do it, or not like to do it, but he can. It's a Cantar function, it can even do it in IDLE mode, during auto-backup. You can also use Majax to do it yourself. But I always have production sound fix this for me (it's just a workaround for a stubborn implementation of the mixdown feature).

> I noticed that Avid v7 offers new options in autosync, one allowing to only autosync to certain tracks and even to renumber the synched tracks. Would that be an option?

Yes. Still, it's far easier to have mixdowns on 1&2 than on 7&8. If you auto-collapse, the original track numbers differ from the synced track numbers. No fun.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?

 


On the original Avid-L, Eric Peters explained that they struggled with that for a while, but decided that people in the west read text and music from left to right. Reading a timeline means it is built from left to right. At the time, it was not so easy to code it so that the user could choose the direction.

You are of course right that any tape or film based system runs in the 'other' direction.

On 26 nov. 2013, at 20:40, Mikeparsons.tv <mikeparsons.tv@gmail.com> wrote:

So why does the timeline go the wrong way? Seriously - later to the right??? 

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[Avid-L2] RE: RE: ARRI Alexa LCC Look Files quagmire

 

Are you sure of that? How are they recording the actual media?


It is my understanding that if the recording is going to the onboard cards as ProRes or DNxHD, it is one or the other. The LCC is loaded as a REC 709 LUT and this means on-board recordings are only REC 709. AFAIK, there is no such thing as Log-C with the LCC LUT. It's still a REC 709 recording, but I could be wrong. The LCC is simply a less extreme Log-C-to-Rec709 LUT. You might want to poke around on ARRI's forums and see what they say.


http://forum.arridigital.com/forum/


The Alexa allows you to record Log-C to the cards and a REC 709 feed out the SDI port to an external recorder, as well as the other way around. So you might want to verify if recorded media actually exists that is truly Log-C. Of course, if the master files are raw, none of this matters.


I haven't worked with ALEs for Alexa in MC7 so I can't answer that question.


- Oliver 



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <ph@...> wrote:

Finally had a conversation with the DoP and the DiT - why didn't it happen beforehand remains a mystery. Basically, they are still using Log-C but with a custom LUT (the LCC provided by Arri), so the workflow follows pretty much all the white papers out there.


One new weird thing popped up though: most of the ALE from the camera won't import in MC7 when my assistant imports them (with the Merge options in the ShotLog settings). Checked the ones from the first day, and they had no Source or Tape column.  Changed one of the headings to Tape and it worked, but the ones from the following day won't work. I'm waiting to receive them by email to double-check.


Anything we should be wary of when it comes to import the ALEs?



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <oliverpeters@...> wrote:

As long as they are consistent and stay with the LCC "look", you don't need to do anything. No other LUTs required. Simply color correct if you want to, like normal. It's simply a low contrast profile.


There is no secret to any of this. Even is they had shot Log-C, it is simply a gamma profile. You are still working with it in Rec 709 color space if you in an NLE. A Log-C-to-Rec-709 LUT is nothing other than an inverse curve to offset the log curve.


- Oliver 



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <ph@...> wrote:

Starting a project shot on Alexa. There was a slight communication problem with the camera department but it looks that they're not shooting with a Log-C but with with Look Files and LCC. From what I understand, it means the camera is recording directly into REC709.


The DiT is supposed to give us MXF files he creates with Resolve -in DNxHD36 (or DNxHD115 if it's worth the bigger files)- for offline editing. We read most of the white papers out there, and whilst there's a lot of info on how to get it right under normal circumstances and some good step-by-step litterature, it's always about Alexa Log-C to REC709. So we're a bit concerned because when we asked for Ycrbr REC709, he said he can't do anything else than RGB. It's rather confusing because LCC seems to be already REC709. If someone can shed some light on that workflow, it would be great because we don't even know what project settings should be used - apart from 1080p/24fps - the color space we should use is a mystery.


Sorry for those who also saw that post on the Avid forum. Figured there might be more film experts here!

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