Saturday, May 19, 2012

[Avid-L2] Re: PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?

 

For one cable network I do shows for the credit bed template has credits in the lower 3rd so far out of safe title it's funny. Their template has credits that rest right on safe action at the bottom.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Craig Rutledge <crutledge@...> wrote:
>
> I've seen up to roughly 10% cropped as well. Wasn't 93% the SMPTE spec released in the last year or so for HD. Most TV's including lcd's and crt's do crop, mask, or overscan a bit of the picture and they are not all the same amount. Just today I've seen several things that didn't fully make onscreen. Where I work our programming goes to cable VOD, web, DVD, standards conversion for broadcasting in other countries, etc. Sticking to safe areas is important in order to make sure we are seen properly no matter the conversion or distribution. I've had to reject things from in and out of house because they didn't maintain safe areas.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Christian Foerster [public@...]
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:27 PM
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?
>
> Many TVs crop off 10% of the image when set to factory settings, so (sadly)
> 90% action safe is as valid as ever.
>
> Big distributors of Web content also crop off a certain amount of the
> TV-originated image when encoding it for the web.
>
> Bye, Christian
>
> --
> Sent from my phone. It's got a rotary dial.
> On May 19, 2012 1:32 PM, "Steve Hullfish" <steve4lists@...> wrote:
>
> > I think that was the NTSC 4:3 title safe. I think that was more necessary
> > because TVs from back in YOUR day :-) needed a lot more "safety." TVs were
> > set up so that even if there were low power situations the viewer would
> > never see the edges of the picture. (When there was lower power delivered
> > to the TV, the picture would shrink.)
> >
> > With modern TVs, I don't think this happens, so they need much less
> > "safety." I looked at the other specs from some of the other broadcasters
> > and PBS seems to be the widest in respect to safe title and safe action.
> > I've also seen 90 and 85. Personally, with modern TVs, 90% and 93% might be
> > pretty generous actually. I wouldn't doubt that it could come down to 95%
> > for BOTH in reality. Also, with all of the repurposing of programming to
> > the web, there's no reason to have safe title at all on that content, so
> > unless you want to produce two versions, the less safe title the better -
> > by that I mean the less DIFFERENCE between full raster and safe title...
> > actually the BIGGER safe title is the better.
> >
> > It may also have to do with old power to the transmitters and whatever
> > that would do to the signal. With digital transmission, that may have also
> > gone away. I have no idea about that, though.
> >
> >
> > Steve Hullfish
> > contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> > author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
> > co-author: "Color Correction for Video: revised edition," "Avid Xpress Pro
> > Editing Workshop" and "Avid XpressDV On the Spot"
> > presenter: Class On Demand's "Complete Training for Avid Media Composer"
> > AND "Complete Training for Apple Color"
> > www.classondemand.net/media/final-cut-training/color01.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 19, 2012, at 1:08 AM, John Moore wrote:
> >
> > > PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?
> > > From the PBS TOS-1 2010 Edition:
> > >
> > > 2.3.4 The Safe Areas are:
> > > 2.3.4.1 Safe Action is the area within which all signification action
> > must be contained. The area is 93% of the width and height of the
> > production aperture.
> > > 2.3.4.2 Safe Title Area is the area within which all significant text
> > must be contained. The area is 90% of the width and height of the
> > production aperture.
> > > 2.3.5 Open Captions are limited to 80% of the width and 80% of the
> > height of a 4:3 protected area (when there is a 4:3 protected area).
> > >
> > > Have I had it wrong for the last 30ish years? I always thought Safe
> > Action 10% in and Safe Title 20% in. What am I missing here?
> > > John Moore
> > >
> > > Barking Trout Productions
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RE: [Avid-L2] PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?

 

I've seen up to roughly 10% cropped as well. Wasn't 93% the SMPTE spec released in the last year or so for HD. Most TV's including lcd's and crt's do crop, mask, or overscan a bit of the picture and they are not all the same amount. Just today I've seen several things that didn't fully make onscreen. Where I work our programming goes to cable VOD, web, DVD, standards conversion for broadcasting in other countries, etc. Sticking to safe areas is important in order to make sure we are seen properly no matter the conversion or distribution. I've had to reject things from in and out of house because they didn't maintain safe areas.

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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Christian Foerster [public@braintrash.de]
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:27 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?

Many TVs crop off 10% of the image when set to factory settings, so (sadly)
90% action safe is as valid as ever.

Big distributors of Web content also crop off a certain amount of the
TV-originated image when encoding it for the web.

Bye, Christian

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On May 19, 2012 1:32 PM, "Steve Hullfish" <steve4lists@veralith.com> wrote:

> I think that was the NTSC 4:3 title safe. I think that was more necessary
> because TVs from back in YOUR day :-) needed a lot more "safety." TVs were
> set up so that even if there were low power situations the viewer would
> never see the edges of the picture. (When there was lower power delivered
> to the TV, the picture would shrink.)
>
> With modern TVs, I don't think this happens, so they need much less
> "safety." I looked at the other specs from some of the other broadcasters
> and PBS seems to be the widest in respect to safe title and safe action.
> I've also seen 90 and 85. Personally, with modern TVs, 90% and 93% might be
> pretty generous actually. I wouldn't doubt that it could come down to 95%
> for BOTH in reality. Also, with all of the repurposing of programming to
> the web, there's no reason to have safe title at all on that content, so
> unless you want to produce two versions, the less safe title the better -
> by that I mean the less DIFFERENCE between full raster and safe title...
> actually the BIGGER safe title is the better.
>
> It may also have to do with old power to the transmitters and whatever
> that would do to the signal. With digital transmission, that may have also
> gone away. I have no idea about that, though.
>
>
> Steve Hullfish
> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
> co-author: "Color Correction for Video: revised edition," "Avid Xpress Pro
> Editing Workshop" and "Avid XpressDV On the Spot"
> presenter: Class On Demand's "Complete Training for Avid Media Composer"
> AND "Complete Training for Apple Color"
> www.classondemand.net/media/final-cut-training/color01.aspx
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 1:08 AM, John Moore wrote:
>
> > PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?
> > From the PBS TOS-1 2010 Edition:
> >
> > 2.3.4 The Safe Areas are:
> > 2.3.4.1 Safe Action is the area within which all signification action
> must be contained. The area is 93% of the width and height of the
> production aperture.
> > 2.3.4.2 Safe Title Area is the area within which all significant text
> must be contained. The area is 90% of the width and height of the
> production aperture.
> > 2.3.5 Open Captions are limited to 80% of the width and 80% of the
> height of a 4:3 protected area (when there is a 4:3 protected area).
> >
> > Have I had it wrong for the last 30ish years? I always thought Safe
> Action 10% in and Safe Title 20% in. What am I missing here?
> > John Moore
> >
> > Barking Trout Productions
> >
> > Studio City, CA
> >
> > bigfish@pacbell.net
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[Avid-L2] Re: Any gotchas with MC 6.0.1.1?

 

timecode generator faster than title tool for that.. (use the notes section)

and it can 'auto-slate' too (with name of sequence / tapeid / date modified / journalist / production fields...)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Title Tool = Slate and Placeholder Maker ;)
> Viva la Photoshop y After Effects!
>
> Cheers!
>
> B
>
>
> Benjamin Hershleder
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> http://Hershleder.com
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>
> On May 18, 2012, at 1:40 PM, op wrote:
>
> > Avid title tool still sucks. And dump boris grafitti and marquee too.
> >
> > Owen
> >
> > On May 18, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for that Barnaby -- very much appreciated.
> > > Cheers and have a good weekend,
> > > B
> > >
> > >
> > > Benjamin Hershleder
> > > http://ContactBen.com
> > > http://Hershleder.com
> > >
> > > Wear It In Post!
> > > Fun T-shirts, mousepads, mugs & more
> > > for Post Production Professionals
> > > http://www.WearItInPost.com
> > >
> > > On May 17, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Barnaby Levy wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sometimes the timeline jumps upper right monitor and tiny. Use apple ' to
> > >> get it back to home. Had some major AMA transcode and import issues when on
> > >> 6.0.1 and unity, not sure if they have been fixed in 6.0.1.1:
> > >>
> > >> We have run into a problem with the media that has been transcoded or
> > >>> imported on the unity: CORE_CONSITENCY_CHECK_FAILURE. This occurs when a
> > >>> clip is playing and approaches a frame missing media and composer stops and
> > >>> the error appears. A black frame can be found with that error message on it
> > >>> by stepping through the problem area frame by frame.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> According to one of our Dev≠s, these errors were fairly common early on in
> > >>> Beta but hadn≠t been seen since before we shipped 6.0. They feel that it
> > >>> should definitely not be in 6.0.1 either.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> The second quote is from Avid. So I would be careful with transcode/import
> > >> on 6.0.1.x with unity as the missing frame may appear in a clip at some
> > >> time point, and then when a second attempt to transcode or import is done,
> > >> the error may or may not appear somewhere else.
> > >>
> > >> ISIS worked perfectly fine and never had this problem once we had moved all
> > >> of our media and transcode/import to that system.
> > >>
> > >> Barnaby
> > >> 323.401.8642
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@...>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> That's what I like to hear! ;)
> > >>> I only did a quick scan of the bug fix report.
> > >>> I'll be editing on it next week... so my fingers are crossed that all goes
> > >>> well.
> > >>> Cheers Terry,
> > >>> B
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Benjamin Hershleder
> > >>> http://ContactBen.com
> > >>> http://Hershleder.com
> > >>>
> > >>> Wear It In Post!
> > >>> Fun T-shirts, mousepads, mugs & more
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> > >>>
> > >>> On May 17, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Tons of fixes which is good.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi gang,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I finally had an opportunity to install MC 6.0.1.1 on a Mac, running
> > >>> 10.7.2.
> > >>>>> Anyone had an unusual gotchas?
> > >>>>> Right now, I'm just glad that the windows don't lock to one size
> > >>> anymore . . .
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Mac server slot config question

 

They are both x8 cards. So putting one of them in an x4 slot is limiting it's full potential.

Jay

On May 19, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Dom Q. Silverio wrote:

> Just be mindful if the card is designed as 4x PCIe, putting it in 16x is
> not going to increase performance.
>
>
>
> On 5/19/2012 3:15 PM, Jay Mahavier wrote:
>> In the MacPro workstation I have running as a server there are 4 PCIe slots. 2 x16, and 2 x4 slots. The graphics card is sitting in one of the x16 slots. Ideally I would want my I/O cards in the fastest slots, my Fiber card and SAS card. Since it's a server, and I mostly remote in to tend to it, do I really need to have a card like a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT? And do I really need to have a graphics card using one of my x16 slots? Can I get some lowly graphics card and put it in one of the x4 slots? I mean the workstations always show up with the cards in Slot 1, and I never questioned moving it before. Would I be ok doing that? And does anyone have a suggestion for a card I could use in a x4 slot?
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Mac server slot config question

 

Just be mindful if the card is designed as 4x PCIe, putting it in 16x is
not going to increase performance.

On 5/19/2012 3:15 PM, Jay Mahavier wrote:
> In the MacPro workstation I have running as a server there are 4 PCIe slots. 2 x16, and 2 x4 slots. The graphics card is sitting in one of the x16 slots. Ideally I would want my I/O cards in the fastest slots, my Fiber card and SAS card. Since it's a server, and I mostly remote in to tend to it, do I really need to have a card like a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT? And do I really need to have a graphics card using one of my x16 slots? Can I get some lowly graphics card and put it in one of the x4 slots? I mean the workstations always show up with the cards in Slot 1, and I never questioned moving it before. Would I be ok doing that? And does anyone have a suggestion for a card I could use in a x4 slot?
>
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[Avid-L2] OT: Mac server slot config question

 

In the MacPro workstation I have running as a server there are 4 PCIe slots. 2 x16, and 2 x4 slots. The graphics card is sitting in one of the x16 slots. Ideally I would want my I/O cards in the fastest slots, my Fiber card and SAS card. Since it's a server, and I mostly remote in to tend to it, do I really need to have a card like a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT? And do I really need to have a graphics card using one of my x16 slots? Can I get some lowly graphics card and put it in one of the x4 slots? I mean the workstations always show up with the cards in Slot 1, and I never questioned moving it before. Would I be ok doing that? And does anyone have a suggestion for a card I could use in a x4 slot?

Thank you,
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Re: [Avid-L2] PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?

 

Many TVs crop off 10% of the image when set to factory settings, so (sadly)
90% action safe is as valid as ever.

Big distributors of Web content also crop off a certain amount of the
TV-originated image when encoding it for the web.

Bye, Christian

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On May 19, 2012 1:32 PM, "Steve Hullfish" <steve4lists@veralith.com> wrote:

> I think that was the NTSC 4:3 title safe. I think that was more necessary
> because TVs from back in YOUR day :-) needed a lot more "safety." TVs were
> set up so that even if there were low power situations the viewer would
> never see the edges of the picture. (When there was lower power delivered
> to the TV, the picture would shrink.)
>
> With modern TVs, I don't think this happens, so they need much less
> "safety." I looked at the other specs from some of the other broadcasters
> and PBS seems to be the widest in respect to safe title and safe action.
> I've also seen 90 and 85. Personally, with modern TVs, 90% and 93% might be
> pretty generous actually. I wouldn't doubt that it could come down to 95%
> for BOTH in reality. Also, with all of the repurposing of programming to
> the web, there's no reason to have safe title at all on that content, so
> unless you want to produce two versions, the less safe title the better -
> by that I mean the less DIFFERENCE between full raster and safe title...
> actually the BIGGER safe title is the better.
>
> It may also have to do with old power to the transmitters and whatever
> that would do to the signal. With digital transmission, that may have also
> gone away. I have no idea about that, though.
>
>
> Steve Hullfish
> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
> co-author: "Color Correction for Video: revised edition," "Avid Xpress Pro
> Editing Workshop" and "Avid XpressDV On the Spot"
> presenter: Class On Demand's "Complete Training for Avid Media Composer"
> AND "Complete Training for Apple Color"
> www.classondemand.net/media/final-cut-training/color01.aspx
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 1:08 AM, John Moore wrote:
>
> > PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?
> > From the PBS TOS-1 2010 Edition:
> >
> > 2.3.4 The Safe Areas are:
> > 2.3.4.1 Safe Action is the area within which all signification action
> must be contained. The area is 93% of the width and height of the
> production aperture.
> > 2.3.4.2 Safe Title Area is the area within which all significant text
> must be contained. The area is 90% of the width and height of the
> production aperture.
> > 2.3.5 Open Captions are limited to 80% of the width and 80% of the
> height of a 4:3 protected area (when there is a 4:3 protected area).
> >
> > Have I had it wrong for the last 30ish years? I always thought Safe
> Action 10% in and Safe Title 20% in. What am I missing here?
> > John Moore
> >
> > Barking Trout Productions
> >
> > Studio City, CA
> >
> > bigfish@pacbell.net
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?

 

Don't forget 14:9 for the blokes over the pond...

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@...> wrote:
>
> I think that was the NTSC 4:3 title safe. I think that was more necessary because TVs from back in YOUR day :-) needed a lot more "safety." TVs were set up so that even if there were low power situations the viewer would never see the edges of the picture. (When there was lower power delivered to the TV, the picture would shrink.)
>
> With modern TVs, I don't think this happens, so they need much less "safety." I looked at the other specs from some of the other broadcasters and PBS seems to be the widest in respect to safe title and safe action. I've also seen 90 and 85. Personally, with modern TVs, 90% and 93% might be pretty generous actually. I wouldn't doubt that it could come down to 95% for BOTH in reality. Also, with all of the repurposing of programming to the web, there's no reason to have safe title at all on that content, so unless you want to produce two versions, the less safe title the better - by that I mean the less DIFFERENCE between full raster and safe title... actually the BIGGER safe title is the better.
>
> It may also have to do with old power to the transmitters and whatever that would do to the signal. With digital transmission, that may have also gone away. I have no idea about that, though.
>
>
> Steve Hullfish
> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
> co-author: "Color Correction for Video: revised edition," "Avid Xpress Pro Editing Workshop" and "Avid XpressDV On the Spot"
> presenter: Class On Demand's "Complete Training for Avid Media Composer" AND "Complete Training for Apple Color"
> www.classondemand.net/media/final-cut-training/color01.aspx
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 1:08 AM, John Moore wrote:
>
> > PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?
> > From the PBS TOS-1 2010 Edition:
> >
> > 2.3.4 The Safe Areas are:
> > 2.3.4.1 Safe Action is the area within which all signification action must be contained. The area is 93% of the width and height of the production aperture.
> > 2.3.4.2 Safe Title Area is the area within which all significant text must be contained. The area is 90% of the width and height of the production aperture.
> > 2.3.5 Open Captions are limited to 80% of the width and 80% of the height of a 4:3 protected area (when there is a 4:3 protected area).
> >
> > Have I had it wrong for the last 30ish years? I always thought Safe Action 10% in and Safe Title 20% in. What am I missing here?
> > John Moore
> >
> > Barking Trout Productions
> >
> > Studio City, CA
> >
> > bigfish@...
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?

I think that was the NTSC 4:3 title safe. I think that was more necessary because TVs from back in YOUR day :-) needed a lot more "safety." TVs were set up so that even if there were low power situations the viewer would never see the edges of the picture. (When there was lower power delivered to the TV, the picture would shrink.)

With modern TVs, I don't think this happens, so they need much less "safety." I looked at the other specs from some of the other broadcasters and PBS seems to be the widest in respect to safe title and safe action. I've also seen 90 and 85. Personally, with modern TVs, 90% and 93% might be pretty generous actually. I wouldn't doubt that it could come down to 95% for BOTH in reality. Also, with all of the repurposing of programming to the web, there's no reason to have safe title at all on that content, so unless you want to produce two versions, the less safe title the better - by that I mean the less DIFFERENCE between full raster and safe title... actually the BIGGER safe title is the better.

It may also have to do with old power to the transmitters and whatever that would do to the signal. With digital transmission, that may have also gone away. I have no idea about that, though.


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On May 19, 2012, at 1:08 AM, John Moore wrote:

> PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?
> From the PBS TOS-1 2010 Edition:
>
> 2.3.4 The Safe Areas are:
> 2.3.4.1 Safe Action is the area within which all signification action must be contained. The area is 93% of the width and height of the production aperture.
> 2.3.4.2 Safe Title Area is the area within which all significant text must be contained. The area is 90% of the width and height of the production aperture.
> 2.3.5 Open Captions are limited to 80% of the width and 80% of the height of a 4:3 protected area (when there is a 4:3 protected area).
>
> Have I had it wrong for the last 30ish years? I always thought Safe Action 10% in and Safe Title 20% in. What am I missing here?
> John Moore
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> Barking Trout Productions
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[Avid-L2] Re: AVCHD wont import

 

For spanned Panasonic AVCHD clips, the entire folder needs to be selected to rejoin the clips.

Try the Panasonic AVCHD to P2 Software: http://youtu.be/clfVn6YXnc4

Bob

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@...> wrote:
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> This media is from an Panny HMC 150. Have imported hundreds of times before. This error is a first but then never shot 720/30 with it so could be a glitch in the format.
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> Lou
> On May 18, 2012, at 9:46 AM, pleasecallmebob wrote:
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> > Spanned AVCHD from Canon cameras will not import with v5.5.
> >
> > The audio and video span at different points and mid GOP. MC can't rejoin the GOPs during a File > Import.
> >
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> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not using AMA as I can't. Files won't import. Files are 720/30p . In I set project to NTSC 30, they will import. But the error I mentioned arises when trying to import into project settings 720/29.97.
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[Avid-L2] PBS and General AFD Specs?

 

Another section of the PBS TOS-1 2010 Edition:

4.4    Active Format Description (AFD)
4.4.1.1 An AFD code must be placed on line 11 of every field of every frame of each segment including the pre- and post-segment black portions.
4.4.1.2 Only the following 16:9 coded frame AFD codes may be used:
4.4.1.2.1 4.4.1.2.2 4.4.1.2.3
4.4.1.2.4
AFD code 1000 (8) –– Full frame 16:9 image AFD code 1001 (9) –– 4:3 pillarbox image centered in frame
AFD code 1010 (10) –– Full frame 16:9 image – All image area is protected, cropping is not allowed
AFD code 1111 (15) –– 16:9 image with alternate 4:3 center – Visual information outside 4:3 protected area may be cropped with minimum impact for the viewer
Note: Currently AFD data will be overwritten during the PBS containerization process using the AFD code submitted in the Orion Media inventory submission for each segment.

Now where in the food chain is AFD inserted?  Is it during Closed Captioning?  What does the note that AFD data gets overwritten during PBS containerization mean they are going to insert their own based on the "Orion Media Inventory"?  My brain is thinking it's time to start hurting. 

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[Avid-L2] PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?

 

PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?
From the PBS TOS-1 2010 Edition:

2.3.4    The Safe Areas are:
2.3.4.1 Safe Action is the area within which all signification action must be contained. The area is 93% of the width and height of the production aperture.
2.3.4.2 Safe Title Area is the area within which all significant text must be contained. The area is 90% of the width and height of the production aperture.
2.3.5 Open Captions are limited to 80% of the width and 80% of the height of a 4:3 protected area (when there is a 4:3 protected area).

Have I had it wrong for the last 30ish years?  I always thought Safe Action 10% in and Safe Title 20% in.  What am I missing here?
John Moore

Barking Trout Productions

Studio City, CA

bigfish@pacbell.net

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: AVCHD wont import

 

I skipped over 5.5 and went straight to 6... forgot about the avchd
limitations.

You could either try a full reinstall of avid or do a lossless transcode or
rewrap. Try using FFmbc command line and rewrap your files into another
container like mp4/mov/avi or something like that. it would be something
like: c:\ffmbc -i "filepath.mts" -vcodec copy -acodec copy -f avi
"filepath.avi" It wouldn't take any time at all, but you'd lose metadata...

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com> wrote:

> This media is from an Panny HMC 150. Have imported hundreds of times
> before. This error is a first but then never shot 720/30 with it so could
> be a glitch in the format.
>
>
> Lou
> On May 18, 2012, at 9:46 AM, pleasecallmebob wrote:
>
> > Spanned AVCHD from Canon cameras will not import with v5.5.
> >
> > The audio and video span at different points and mid GOP. MC can't
> rejoin the GOPs during a File > Import.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not using AMA as I can't. Files won't import. Files are 720/30p .
> In I set project to NTSC 30, they will import. But the error I mentioned
> arises when trying to import into project settings 720/29.97.
> > >
> > >
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