Saturday, October 10, 2009

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: The L2 has a blog? who knew

Jeff

Better start planning for Avid-L 3. On Google Wave. It could be a self-
creating Wiki/blog/comment stream/Twitter fest!

Sent from my dog

On 10 Oct 2009, at 16:37, "jeffsengpiehl" <jeffsengpiehl@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> An interesting question- in theory an email comes back to the list
> for any comments on the blog- this has not happened yet, and I just
> did a test to see what will happen.
>
> It might not make it back here, as only subscribers can post to the
> list- and the from email address of the Blog would need to be added
> as an L2 subscriber.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "oliverpetersvidy"
> <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > So how do the two reconcile to each other? For instance, do
> comments posted on the blog appear back on the Yahoo page or in the
> Digest or Direct mail?
> >
> > - Oliver
> >
>
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: The L2 has a blog? who knew

An interesting question- in theory an email comes back to the list for any comments on the blog- this has not happened yet, and I just did a test to see what will happen.

It might not make it back here, as only subscribers can post to the list- and the from email address of the Blog would need to be added as an L2 subscriber.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> So how do the two reconcile to each other? For instance, do comments posted on the blog appear back on the Yahoo page or in the Digest or Direct mail?
>
> - Oliver
>


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[Avid-L2] Re: The L2 has a blog? who knew

Jeff,

So how do the two reconcile to each other? For instance, do comments posted on the blog appear back on the Yahoo page or in the Digest or Direct mail?

- Oliver

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: The L2 has a blog? who knew

Great post Jeff. Thanks for the info.

On Oct 10, 2009, at 12:19 AM, jeffsengpiehl wrote:

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[Avid-L2] Re: help - timeline disappeared!

Thanks everybody for excellent suggestions. After a long, torturous day I finally got to examine the options and tried the easiest first. Default Set Up worked! All I lost was my beautiful color scheme. Thanks again, I really appreciate the L2.

Peter

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dawkins <dawk2@...> wrote:
>
> Keyboard mapping, practical joke?
>
> Barry Stevens wrote:
> >
> >
> > new user? toolset?
> > On 9 Oct 2009, at 16:17, ptr_rhodes wrote:
> >
> > > Weird problem in MC 3.5.4 I pressed Command Shift F to go to
> > > fullscreen but the timeline was highlighted rather than the
> > > sequence. Now the timeline has disappeared - the details, not the
> > > timeline window. Tried a different sequence, restarting the app,
> > > even rebooting the computer and still not there. Any ideas????
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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[Avid-L2] DIG VDM Overrun nitris xw8400 rtr storage v3.54

We intermittently get these errors and we've done all the things suggested.
Most seem to say it's a drives issue but we have pretty much eliminated
that. It also happened intermittently, but often one clip will prove very
difficult to capture. Tempted to think it's in some way content related.
Mostly happens with batch capture.

Change cables, terminators, Correct firmware, correct drivers. Also I ran
HDSpeed drive tester and it does say 400Mb which is easily enough to
digitize one stream in 1:1 HD We have 2 RTR chassis striped together on
separate scsi chains for each chassis. So exactly as it's supposed to be.

We didn't get this when we were on xp with v3x now we are on 3.54 with
vista, although that's not necessarily significant.

Anyone else have this, is it a version thing or any other explanation or
ideas?

Thanks

Nige

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Re: [Avid-L2] Matching to non promoted Motion effect SNDX 3.5.4 on Mac OS 10.5.6?

Are you trying to match back to the Motion Effect or the original source
frame? I've never had any problem with this. I have Match Frame on a
function key on the Kbd. Hit once - Motion Effect is loaded into source
monitor. Focus goes to source monitor. Hit key again and the source frame is
loaded. Or al I missing something. Can't try on your exact version but this
works on MC 4.0.2 Mac (10.5.8), MC 3.1.3 Win and Xpress Pro 5.8 Mac
(10.4.11).


On 10/10/2009 00:20, "John Moore" <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

> I know on a pc I was able to match to a non promoted motion effect by hitting
> Ctrl/alt and matchframe (or some such combo).  I can't seem to find the magic
> key combo on a mac.  Anybody know?  I can always promote the motion effect and
> get a match but that's cheating isn't it?
>
>
> John Moore
>
+++
With best wishes,

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Friday, October 9, 2009

[Avid-L2] Re: The L2 has a blog? who knew

So if you pull RSS for something, get it from the L2 blog.

http://avidl2.blogspot.com

JDS

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "jeffsengpiehl" <jeffsengpiehl@...> wrote:
>
> The Yahoo RSS feed's performance for the L2 has been dismal at best. Late posts, only about 20% message arrival rates, it's horrid. The direct mail feed goes to the Avid L2 blog, then the blog RSS feeds out to the L2 Facebook page.
>
> extra servers involved, but the message relay looks pretty damn perfect!
>
> JDS
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jim Feeley <jfeeley@> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/8/09 10:33 PM, "jeffsengpiehl" <jeffsengpiehl@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://avidl2.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > It's the L2, in blog format, with a few extras to boot. Great for those who
> > > use RSS for reading, the blogspot RSS is the Full L2, better then other RSS
> > > methods we use.
> > >
> > > blog fun, blog fun.
> > >
> >
> > Interesting idea, but I don¹t see the advantage. Yahoo offers an RSS feed of
> > Avid-L2 here:
> >
> > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/Avid-L2/messages
> >
> > Perhaps I¹m missing something...what does blogspot offer that the yahoo RSS
> > feed doesn¹t?
> >
> >
> > Also, I see one potential problem with the current implementation. Email
> > address of some posters, (at least some of those with their email address in
> > their sig, those who¹s posts generate a reply, perhaps others), become
> > exposed on the web. And thus, those folks may end up receiving even more
> > spam than they already do. Sure, we¹ve all agreed to expose our email
> > addresses here on the email list (and on the yahoo groups page and
> > archive...hence my use of gmail here), but those aren¹t as public and easily
> > harvestable as stuff on blogspot.
> >
> > Is there any way to keep email addresses off the blogspot re-posting of
> > Avid-L2?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim
> > --
> > Jim Feeley
> > POV Media
> >
> >
> >
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[Avid-L2] Re: OT: Encore Video Sync problem

Typically mixdowns are done to force the editor to actually render everything- and if you're creating Windows Media, it eliminates the bug of filler black not being "real", and video sliding left to eliminate "open" spaces.

If you aren't fully rendered- a QT ref into a compression system can create failures of file localization. The system can't get every piece, and fails.

Mixdowns cure this.


As to the original posting- check the colors setting. I've seen codecs where Millions + is available (alpha channel) when set to millions + instead of Millions, the clip won't stay in sync due to extra junk in the encode, despite it not being visible.

JDS

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hullfish <Steve@...> wrote:
>
> Ian's right. His post reminded me of something. I work at a place with
> a Unity and despite the fact that the compression system is on the
> Unity, they still like to do video and audio mixdowns to prevent these
> kinds of errors. Try doing a video and audio mixdown and do the QT ref
> from that OR, as Ian suggests, do a "same as source" video export.
> It'll be pretty fast and it may solve your problem.
>
> On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:49 PM, IAN WILSON wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't do anything from a ref file if I could avoide it. Have not
> > used the App, but bake the sucker in and try again. Compressor used to
> > have same problem, not in that side of company now, ref files may now
> > be fine.
> >
> > Ian Wilson
> > Colortape Productions
> > Ian@...
> > 0418 327 082
> > Via iPhone
> >
> > On 10/10/2009, at 9:49 AM, Mark Myers <MarkM@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm hoping someone on this list has run into this, because it's
> > > driving
> > > me nuts, and I can't find a solution anywhere on the web.
> > >
> > > We recently switched to CS3 (had it for a while) to do our DVD
> > > authoring. We used Sonic's Reel DVD before.
> > >
> > > After encoding the audio and video from a reference file in
> > > Sorensen, I
> > > pull it into Encore, and the video appears to run about 30% faster
> > > than
> > > the audio. By the end of a 21 minute program, the sync is of several
> > > minutes.
> > >
> > > Has anyone run into this, and what did you do? I've been playing
> > with
> > > compression settings, and project settings but haven't found a way
> > to
> > > solve this. Usually I end up just going back to Reel DVD.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > S.R. Film & Video
> > > 195 W Broad St
> > > Salunga PA 17538
> > >
> > >
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> > > Post Production, Web Hosting & Design
> > >
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[Avid-L2] Re: The L2 has a blog? who knew

The Yahoo RSS feed's performance for the L2 has been dismal at best. Late posts, only about 20% message arrival rates, it's horrid. The direct mail feed goes to the Avid L2 blog, then the blog RSS feeds out to the L2 Facebook page.

extra servers involved, but the message relay looks pretty damn perfect!

JDS

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jim Feeley <jfeeley@...> wrote:
>
> On 10/8/09 10:33 PM, "jeffsengpiehl" <jeffsengpiehl@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > http://avidl2.blogspot.com/
> >
> > It's the L2, in blog format, with a few extras to boot. Great for those who
> > use RSS for reading, the blogspot RSS is the Full L2, better then other RSS
> > methods we use.
> >
> > blog fun, blog fun.
> >
>
> Interesting idea, but I don¹t see the advantage. Yahoo offers an RSS feed of
> Avid-L2 here:
>
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/Avid-L2/messages
>
> Perhaps I¹m missing something...what does blogspot offer that the yahoo RSS
> feed doesn¹t?
>
>
> Also, I see one potential problem with the current implementation. Email
> address of some posters, (at least some of those with their email address in
> their sig, those who¹s posts generate a reply, perhaps others), become
> exposed on the web. And thus, those folks may end up receiving even more
> spam than they already do. Sure, we¹ve all agreed to expose our email
> addresses here on the email list (and on the yahoo groups page and
> archive...hence my use of gmail here), but those aren¹t as public and easily
> harvestable as stuff on blogspot.
>
> Is there any way to keep email addresses off the blogspot re-posting of
> Avid-L2?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
> --
> Jim Feeley
> POV Media
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[Avid-L2] Re: OT: Encore Video Sync problem

As someone who had worked in the LA market a long time, when you say "Encore Video" it has a whole different meaning.


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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Encore Video Sync problem

I'll give it a try, but I really think the problem is a setting in
Encore, and not in the reference file.

I can pull the reference file - or the compressed MPEG2 file, into
Premier and it's fine. If I pull the MPEG2 files into Encore - nope.

As I mentioned before, this workflow works fine with Reel DVD.

Mark


On 10/9/09 11:14 PM, Steve Hullfish wrote:
>
> Ian's right. His post reminded me of something. I work at a place with
> a Unity and despite the fact that the compression system is on the
> Unity, they still like to do video and audio mixdowns to prevent these
> kinds of errors. Try doing a video and audio mixdown and do the QT ref
> from that OR, as Ian suggests, do a "same as source" video export.
> It'll be pretty fast and it may solve your problem.
>
> On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:49 PM, IAN WILSON wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't do anything from a ref file if I could avoide it. Have not
> > used the App, but bake the sucker in and try again. Compressor used to
> > have same problem, not in that side of company now, ref files may now
> > be fine.
> >
> > Ian Wilson
> > Colortape Productions
> > Ian@colortape.tv <mailto:Ian%40colortape.tv>
> > 0418 327 082
> > Via iPhone
> >
> > On 10/10/2009, at 9:49 AM, Mark Myers <MarkM@SR-Pro.com
> <mailto:MarkM%40SR-Pro.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm hoping someone on this list has run into this, because it's
> > > driving
> > > me nuts, and I can't find a solution anywhere on the web.
> > >
> > > We recently switched to CS3 (had it for a while) to do our DVD
> > > authoring. We used Sonic's Reel DVD before.
> > >
> > > After encoding the audio and video from a reference file in
> > > Sorensen, I
> > > pull it into Encore, and the video appears to run about 30% faster
> > > than
> > > the audio. By the end of a 21 minute program, the sync is of several
> > > minutes.
> > >
> > > Has anyone run into this, and what did you do? I've been playing
> > with
> > > compression settings, and project settings but haven't found a way
> > to
> > > solve this. Usually I end up just going back to Reel DVD.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Owner/Director
> > > S.R. Film & Video
> > > 195 W Broad St
> > > Salunga PA 17538
> > >
> > >
> > > Cinematography, Still Photography, Copy Writing,
> > > Post Production, Web Hosting & Design
> > >
> > > Office: 717-393-5504 ex 142
> > > Cell: 717-203-0976
> > > Fax: 717-393-1833
> > >
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Encore Video Sync problem

Ian's right. His post reminded me of something. I work at a place with
a Unity and despite the fact that the compression system is on the
Unity, they still like to do video and audio mixdowns to prevent these
kinds of errors. Try doing a video and audio mixdown and do the QT ref
from that OR, as Ian suggests, do a "same as source" video export.
It'll be pretty fast and it may solve your problem.

On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:49 PM, IAN WILSON wrote:

> I wouldn't do anything from a ref file if I could avoide it. Have not
> used the App, but bake the sucker in and try again. Compressor used to
> have same problem, not in that side of company now, ref files may now
> be fine.
>
> Ian Wilson
> Colortape Productions
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>
> On 10/10/2009, at 9:49 AM, Mark Myers <MarkM@SR-Pro.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm hoping someone on this list has run into this, because it's
> > driving
> > me nuts, and I can't find a solution anywhere on the web.
> >
> > We recently switched to CS3 (had it for a while) to do our DVD
> > authoring. We used Sonic's Reel DVD before.
> >
> > After encoding the audio and video from a reference file in
> > Sorensen, I
> > pull it into Encore, and the video appears to run about 30% faster
> > than
> > the audio. By the end of a 21 minute program, the sync is of several
> > minutes.
> >
> > Has anyone run into this, and what did you do? I've been playing
> with
> > compression settings, and project settings but haven't found a way
> to
> > solve this. Usually I end up just going back to Reel DVD.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mark
> >
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[Avid-L2] Re: OT: Encore Video Sync problem

I've been doing Blu-rays lately in Encore CS4 and haven't hit any sync issues. This includes a 90 minute feature film. I've used both QT refs and encoded files and both worked.

The trouble with Encore is that it doesn't hold any of the encodes done by the app, unlike DVD SP. So once you are done, close the app and later return to it, all the encodes have to be done again, because they were only temp files. If you import encoded files as assets, then it's fine.

I'm currently encoding these files using Adobe Media Encoder (available standalone in CS4). I generate HD MPEG2 files and AC3 there and then import these into Encore.

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Encore Video Sync problem

I wouldn't do anything from a ref file if I could avoide it. Have not
used the App, but bake the sucker in and try again. Compressor used to
have same problem, not in that side of company now, ref files may now
be fine.

Ian Wilson
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Via iPhone

On 10/10/2009, at 9:49 AM, Mark Myers <MarkM@SR-Pro.com> wrote:

> I'm hoping someone on this list has run into this, because it's
> driving
> me nuts, and I can't find a solution anywhere on the web.
>
> We recently switched to CS3 (had it for a while) to do our DVD
> authoring. We used Sonic's Reel DVD before.
>
> After encoding the audio and video from a reference file in
> Sorensen, I
> pull it into Encore, and the video appears to run about 30% faster
> than
> the audio. By the end of a 21 minute program, the sync is of several
> minutes.
>
> Has anyone run into this, and what did you do? I've been playing with
> compression settings, and project settings but haven't found a way to
> solve this. Usually I end up just going back to Reel DVD.
>
> Thanks
> Mark
>
>
> --
> Owner/Director
> S.R. Film & Video
> 195 W Broad St
> Salunga PA 17538
>
>
> Cinematography, Still Photography, Copy Writing,
> Post Production, Web Hosting & Design
>
> Office: 717-393-5504 ex 142
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>
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[Avid-L2] Re: Matching to non promoted Motion effect SNDX 3.5.4 on Mac OS 10.5.6?

No that is not working on my 3.5.4 Mac SNDX. Tried the alt/option singular key with matchframe on record and timeline toolbar and all a get is try opening the bin containing the clip dialogue box. Like I said it was ctrl/alt plus matchframe on pc (two keys and a click on the matchframe under record monitor). Am I missing something here? I tried the alt/option button on the left and right side of the keyboard.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Adding... make sure you're clicking on the Match Frame button on the
> timeline toolbar or under the record monitor. I've seen people click
> on the one under the source monitor and that's not going to work for
> you when trying to match back from the timeline.
>
> B
>
>
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> On Oct 9, 2009, at 4:20 PM, John Moore wrote:
>
> > I know on a pc I was able to match to a non promoted motion effect
> > by hitting Ctrl/alt and matchframe (or some such combo). I can't
> > seem to find the magic key combo on a mac. Anybody know? I can
> > always promote the motion effect and get a match but that's cheating
> > isn't it?
> >
> > John Moore
> >
> > Barking Trout Productions
> >
> > Studio City, CA
> >
> > bigfish@...
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Matching to non promoted Motion effect SNDX 3.5.4 on Mac OS 10.5.6?

Adding... make sure you're clicking on the Match Frame button on the
timeline toolbar or under the record monitor. I've seen people click
on the one under the source monitor and that's not going to work for
you when trying to match back from the timeline.

B


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On Oct 9, 2009, at 4:20 PM, John Moore wrote:

> I know on a pc I was able to match to a non promoted motion effect
> by hitting Ctrl/alt and matchframe (or some such combo). I can't
> seem to find the magic key combo on a mac. Anybody know? I can
> always promote the motion effect and get a match but that's cheating
> isn't it?
>
> John Moore
>
> Barking Trout Productions
>
> Studio City, CA
>
> bigfish@pacbell.net
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Avid-L2] Matching to non promoted Motion effect SNDX 3.5.4 on Mac OS 10.5.6?

Alt/Opt with Match frame from the timeline should load the motion
effect clip in the source window

B

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On Oct 9, 2009, at 4:20 PM, John Moore wrote:

> I know on a pc I was able to match to a non promoted motion effect
> by hitting Ctrl/alt and matchframe (or some such combo). I can't
> seem to find the magic key combo on a mac. Anybody know? I can
> always promote the motion effect and get a match but that's cheating
> isn't it?
>
> John Moore
>
> Barking Trout Productions
>
> Studio City, CA
>
> bigfish@pacbell.net
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[Avid-L2] Matching to non promoted Motion effect SNDX 3.5.4 on Mac OS 10.5.6?

I know on a pc I was able to match to a non promoted motion effect by hitting Ctrl/alt and matchframe (or some such combo).  I can't seem to find the magic key combo on a mac.  Anybody know?  I can always promote the motion effect and get a match but that's cheating isn't it?


John Moore

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Encore Video Sync problem

I've been told not to allow Encore to do the encoding, so I do it in
Squeeze.

Reel DVD is not doing any encoding either.

Clips appear to be the same length on the Encore time line, but if you
play them in preview, the video goes to black about 3/4 of the way down
the time line - and the sync goes off more and more through out the time
line.

Have done a work around by taking the files into Premier, and running
them through Premier's compressor. Then they seem to work, but that's a
PITA when working with Avid, so I normally just to back to Reel DVD.

Found lots of mentions on line about sync driving 2 or 3 frames, but
never 2 or 3 minutes.

Thanks!
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On 10/9/09 6:57 PM, Steve Hullfish wrote:
>
> That doesn't sound right. I've never had that happen before. Are the
> lengths of the files of audio and video different before they come in
> to Encore?
>
> Maybe the issue is Squeeze? Have you tried a different MPEG2 encoder
> or a different setting? Do the exact encoded files that don't work on
> Encore work in Reel? Or is Reel encoding them itself?
>
> On Oct 9, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Mark Myers wrote:
>
> > I'm hoping someone on this list has run into this, because it's
> > driving
> > me nuts, and I can't find a solution anywhere on the web.
> >
> > We recently switched to CS3 (had it for a while) to do our DVD
> > authoring. We used Sonic's Reel DVD before.
> >
> > After encoding the audio and video from a reference file in
> > Sorensen, I
> > pull it into Encore, and the video appears to run about 30% faster
> > than
> > the audio. By the end of a 21 minute program, the sync is of several
> > minutes.
> >
> > Has anyone run into this, and what did you do? I've been playing with
> > compression settings, and project settings but haven't found a way to
> > solve this. Usually I end up just going back to Reel DVD.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mark
> >
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Encore Video Sync problem

That doesn't sound right. I've never had that happen before. Are the
lengths of the files of audio and video different before they come in
to Encore?

Maybe the issue is Squeeze? Have you tried a different MPEG2 encoder
or a different setting? Do the exact encoded files that don't work on
Encore work in Reel? Or is Reel encoding them itself?

On Oct 9, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Mark Myers wrote:

> I'm hoping someone on this list has run into this, because it's
> driving
> me nuts, and I can't find a solution anywhere on the web.
>
> We recently switched to CS3 (had it for a while) to do our DVD
> authoring. We used Sonic's Reel DVD before.
>
> After encoding the audio and video from a reference file in
> Sorensen, I
> pull it into Encore, and the video appears to run about 30% faster
> than
> the audio. By the end of a 21 minute program, the sync is of several
> minutes.
>
> Has anyone run into this, and what did you do? I've been playing with
> compression settings, and project settings but haven't found a way to
> solve this. Usually I end up just going back to Reel DVD.
>
> Thanks
> Mark
>
> --
> Owner/Director
> S.R. Film & Video
> 195 W Broad St
> Salunga PA 17538
>
> Cinematography, Still Photography, Copy Writing,
> Post Production, Web Hosting & Design
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[Avid-L2] OT: Encore Video Sync problem

I'm hoping someone on this list has run into this, because it's driving
me nuts, and I can't find a solution anywhere on the web.

We recently switched to CS3 (had it for a while) to do our DVD
authoring. We used Sonic's Reel DVD before.

After encoding the audio and video from a reference file in Sorensen, I
pull it into Encore, and the video appears to run about 30% faster than
the audio. By the end of a 21 minute program, the sync is of several
minutes.

Has anyone run into this, and what did you do? I've been playing with
compression settings, and project settings but haven't found a way to
solve this. Usually I end up just going back to Reel DVD.

Thanks
Mark


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[Avid-L2] Re:So you young whippersnappers might know where we're coming from...

Sounds like the JVC or one of those hacked 3/4s that had a time code head added. Not to forget the BVU-200s where the tension arm was between the TC head and the video drum head. Depending on the tension you could drift quite a few frames even with a lock to time code track. At UCLA I edited my entire Super 8 project on 3/4 and did all the looping on 3/4. Then I sat with a VO-2860 and matched every cut using the pause button. Ended up cutting the dialogue track in video and dubbed it to Mag film. I was one of few students to do sync sound on super 8 without a nagra or a sound super 8 camera. Fot the 15 minutes the sync held up given everything was looped it was watchable. Now my script that's another story.

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> How about the top loading 3/4" decks that had the timecode head 14 frames offset from picture. That one caused me a lot of pain in online....
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: More with the questions: XDCAM and P2

paulsampson100 wrote:
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>
> I assure you I am a real person. I do begin by writing these based on
> my own experience working for Canadian broadcasters - CBC and CTV
> among them. My work then goes to Avid for review, and indeed they do
> catch a lot of issues. I make corrections (I agree with), and then I
> put them out.
>
> In developing the material I get access to the manufacturers and Avid,
> including Avid engineering.
>
> I think they are a usefiul blend of practical advice vetted by the
> manufacturer to make sure I tell no lies.....
>
> I hope some of you find them useful.
>
> Paul Sampson
> Toronto
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Roger Shufflebottom <rshuff@...> wrote:
> >
> > Was this by Paul Sampson by any chance? He is an ACI who puts up
> occasional
> > useful workflow documents.
> >
> >
> > On 07/10/2009 21:05, "Steve Hullfish" <Steve@...> wrote:
> >
> > > The other weird thing about the docs is that usually company
> > > documentation is done from the viewpoint of the COMPANY, but this doc
> > > had an author's fingerprint on it. In other words the writer was
> > > referring to himself in the article. It included personal anecdotal
> > > evidence instead of any kind of tested information with hard
> > > statistical info. So you walk away from reading the pdf wondering if
> > > any of it is true or did you just read somebody's blog?
> >
> > +++
> > With best wishes,
> >
> > Roger Shufflebottom
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> > Tel: +44 1992 535 031 (UK)
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Re: [Avid-L2] help - timeline disappeared!

Keyboard mapping, practical joke?

Barry Stevens wrote:
>
>
> new user? toolset?
> On 9 Oct 2009, at 16:17, ptr_rhodes wrote:
>
> > Weird problem in MC 3.5.4 I pressed Command Shift F to go to
> > fullscreen but the timeline was highlighted rather than the
> > sequence. Now the timeline has disappeared - the details, not the
> > timeline window. Tried a different sequence, restarting the app,
> > even rebooting the computer and still not there. Any ideas????
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: So you young whippersnappers might know where we're coming from...

(evil grin) You mean the "War of Northern Aggression" don't you?


Sent from mid-Michigan by a life-long Michigander

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Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:59 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: So you young whippersnappers might know where we're
coming from...


>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines@...> wrote:
>
> '
> <<My first VTR experience was in 1965,>>
>
>
> Geez, wasn't that during the Civil War?
>
> Terence "Couldn't Resist" Curren
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[Avid-L2] Re: apple 24'' minidisplay blues

Well, the most quickly and cost effective solution was to add a second video board inside. Apple did not accept the monitors return, the gefen adapter is not sold yet, the other adapter is on the other side of the world
So we are back 10 years ago when 2 monitors means 2 video boards. Thanks apple!


--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "bucur_marian" <bucur_marian@...> wrote:
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> We've found yesterday way that connecting 2x 24'' brand new monitors to a new mac pro is impossible those days. In 2 words the display has only minidisplay inputs while the mac pro has only one minidisplay and one DVI. And there is no DVI to minidisplay adaptor.
> How this is this solved those days? Should I return the monitor to the apple dealer (he did not say a word about this, but google revealed a lot of angry people) Is there any 3rd party adaptor, cable, anything?
>


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Re: [Avid-L2] Re:So you young whippersnappers might know where we're coming from...

Yes Shirley, we ( 3 Paltex UK trainer/editors) saw it at NAB (1985?)
and nearly sold our houses to buy one!
Good job we didnt . . . .
On 9 Oct 2009, at 00:02, guanacaa@aol.com wrote:

> Anybody remember Montage?

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: So you young whippersnappers might know where we're coming from...

Wow Jeff, you ARE almost an old Fart.
Rather than relay a very similar UK story, the BBC vt site speaks for
itself.
http://www.vtoldboys.com/
I am in there (1965) somewhere, went straight from school to BBC sep
1959
hey thats 50 years ago! Why am I still working?
On 9 Oct 2009, at 00:38, Jeff Kreines wrote:

> My, you all came to this so late! (Except maybe Barry...)
>
> My first VTR experience was in 1965, with an Ampex VR-1500 (2"
> Helical, cheaper version of the VR-660). Weird joystick control.
> Went to an Ampex VR-7100 1" Type A in rollaround box with popup
> monitor shortly thereafter. This was in -- gasp -- junior high
> school. My school had a CCTV setup and was an Ampex beta test site of
> sorts. I had three years to get video out of my system, and got out of
> a lot of classes dashing down to the studio (as it was) to fix
> something.
>
> Just so you don't think it was too posh, the "switcher" was a box of
> relays with a little pendant with 4 buttons -- we had 3 cameras but
> were optimistic -- hit the button and "switch" to the next camera.
> Since the box was in the studio you could hear the relays and see the
> picture roll a bit -- the audio picked up by a pair of Unidyne IIIs on
> goosenecks mounted on the very low ceiling. Our film chain, as it
> were, was a B&H 285 projector with the shutter ripped out aimed into a
> Wilson Device -- a card with rear projection box with latex screen
> stretched over. Lovely image quality! We aimed a terrible Sylvania
> 600 Vidicon camera at it. This was before "camera 3" arrived -- a
> snappy little Ampex CC-323 that was always my favorite.
>
> Our most popular shows were one that taught "cursive writing" (the
> school system didn't let you write script until 6th grade) and Dr.
> Lola May's math show, taught by a very funny Amazon math whiz whose
> catchphrase was "a rubber cigar to you." (I will leave the double
> entendres up to the rest of you.) We did produce some non-
> instructional shows, all terrible, including one called "From Then To
> Now" that was apparently history (of everything) in 5 minutes, not
> intended as funny, just a way to get out of regular classes for a bit
> and produce this.
>
> Went to high school where they had an insane 2700 mHz instructional tv
> station, with a quad machine, a real film chain (well, sort of), a
> pair of GPL cameras, one with a 15-150 Angenieux, and in the end the
> first U-Matic I ever saw -- the consumer machine. Shows still sucked
> but I did do camera on one with Margaret Mead. Funniest technology
> there was a bizarre Ampex machine I have never seen since -- their
> attempt at the cart machine market -- an audio recorder that used a
> 12" floppy magnetic disk, as I recall not in any container, just
> floppy plastic with oxide on it. Dumb idea!
>
> But this high school had a great photography department, which is
> where I spent a lot of time until I started making films -- aided by
> the discovery of an unused Moviscop and synchronizer and rewinds that
> I cut my first two sync films on.
>
> Dropped out of high school (hey, it was 1971!) to make films full
> time, and ended up soon after at the MIT Film Section, a hotbed of
> cinema verite activity, and the perfect place for me to be. We had
> better toys -- the oddest of which was a Kodak Videoplayer --
> essentially a desktop Super-8 flying spot scanner. Ugh! Ricky
> Leacock was very interested in democratizing filmmaking (he thought
> everyone had at least one movie in them -- something the video
> revolution proved was very wrong indeed!) so MIT developed a weird
> Super 8 sync system, that I did use on some short films for WGBH.
>
> But I never touched video again until I got and hacked an early 8mm
> camcorder. Still prefer film. These days I spend a lot of time
> dealing with very old film -- I make archival film scanners for places
> like the Library of Congress that can deal with the most shrunken and
> damaged film without harm.
>
> What got me started on this? Perhaps an effort to avoid work?
>
> Jeff "old fart indeed" Kreines
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: RED PAIN

"Alan Rosenfeld" (08-10-2009 22:19) :

> with all the discussion here I haven't seen one
> mention of Assimilate Scratch

Then you haven't read my postings.


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Thursday, October 8, 2009

RE: [Avid-L2] Re:So you young whippersnappers might know where we're coming from...

BVU-200's?

How about the top loading 3/4" decks that had the timecode head 14 frames offset from picture. That one caused me a lot of pain in online....


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[Avid-L2] Re:So you young whippersnappers might know where we're coming from...

And the EditDroid from our friends at Lucas.. A former employer of mine was sued over these. Ahh.. warms the cockles of my heart.

JDS

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, IAN WILSON <ian@...> wrote:
>
> Yea, came out the same time as ECM2
>
> Ian Wilson
> Colortape Productions
> Ian@...
> 0418 327 082
> Via iPhone
>
> On 09/10/2009, at 10:02 AM, guanacaa@... wrote:
>
> > Anybody remember Montage? That weird, Rube Goldberg attempt at non-
> > linearity consisted of a bunch of Betamax cassettes loaded with the
> > same dailies, all cueing up and playing their little piece of the
> > list, ideally at the right time. Thankfully, I never worked on it. I
> > loaded it only once when I was an assistant, and I managed to avoid
> > it thereafter.
> > I started my offline career on 3/4", which was bad enough. As to
> > online, I would never have done it if non-linearity hadn't come
> > along. That's because I've always been more interested in making
> > things pretty, than in learning the specific configuration of a room
> > with equipment from eight different manufacturers.
> >
> > Shirley
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick <a_pmb_fan@...>
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:50 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re:So you young whippersnappers might know
> > where we're coming from...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > One of my first non linear systems was a digital linear room with a
> > Pluto DDR
> > and an Accom Axial 3000. Load your edl, conform all the shots onto
> > the ddr and
> > then go into Graphical Mode and you could swap shots around, add
> > fades, then go
> > back to list mode, and layback to tape. Not true non linear, but a
> > cool and fast
> > way to swap stuff around without manually modifying your edl.
> >
> > With an Accom 4 channel DDR, you could load four machines at once.
> > It was pretty sweet.
> > Yeah kids, we built edls, not just export them as part of the
> > deliverables.
> > Rick Emery
> > www.rickemery.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Terence Curren <tcurren@...>
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 5:50:03 PM
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re:So you young whippersnappers might know where
> > we're coming
> > from...
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> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, "Jayasri Hart" <hartfilms@ ..>
> > wrote:
> > <<I embraced digital video because it allowed film-style cutting
> > without the
> > flatbed.>>
> >
> > The first time I saw that you could enter a TC an go to it instead
> > of searching
> > for a trim I was in heaven.
> >
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[Avid-L2] The L2 has a blog? who knew

http://avidl2.blogspot.com/

It's the L2, in blog format, with a few extras to boot. Great for those who use RSS for reading, the blogspot RSS is the Full L2, better then other RSS methods we use.

blog fun, blog fun.

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[Avid-L2] Re:So you young whippersnappers might know where we're coming from...

How about the top loading 3/4" decks that had the timecode head 14 frames offset from picture. That one caused me a lot of pain in online....

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re:So you young whippersnappers might know where we're coming from...

With the 800 series you could figure out the slippage with clean heads
and compensate to do match frames. If it started slipping it was time to
clean the heads and rollers. For sports with the only TC being the TOD
the record was started you cut by ejecting the tape looking how full the
reels were adding or subtracting from the shotlist and tossing it back
in and hitting FF or Rew for as long as your internal clock said you
should. With a little practise you could go into shuttle within 30" of
the play you needed.

It was always fun trying to build the third or sometimes 4th audio track
with punchins or track swaps on the fly, while flying in wild sound
from reel to reel and or cart. Cart... kinda like an 8 track for you
YWs. Watch American Graffiti you will see them in the Wolfman Jack
scenes. Whatta ya mean who's he????Next you'll be telling me you do not
know who Dr. Demento is.

Dennis, was that an Ampex 350 I saw hiding in the corner of your pic?

DD

Jim Settlemoir wrote:
>
>
> I edited my first documentary in 1978 on a TRI-EA5. I don't even
> remember the Sony deck model numbers, but they were old top-loaders.
>
> No TC or even any numeric displays -- you parked the 3/4" tapes where
> you wanted the insert to happen, then the controller backed the decks
> up "approximately" 5 seconds, and you held your breath waiting to see
> where the edit actually happened. The record machine stayed in insert
> until you pushed a button.
>
> I actually "offlined" the show, then went back and "onlined" it -- all
> without TC. I wouldn't even DREAM of trying that today.
>
> On Oct 8, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Bruce Tovsky <bruce@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > <<just being able to cut on the same frame twice in a row caused me to
> >> wet myself.... many years ago.>>
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> >
> > Yeah, my first video editing experience was on a RM400. No point
> > in previewing an edit as it never hit the same place twice.
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