Saturday, January 22, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Great Little iPad app For Making Notes On A Sequence

 

Thanks so much! I'll check it out.

Shirley

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Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Great Little iPad app For Making Notes On A Sequence

Yes Shirley, you're spot on.

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On 22 Jan 2011, at 22:32, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@aol.com> wrote:

> This is probably a dim question, but what is the iPad "playing" when you "hit

play?" Does it just run a sort of frame based clock?

>

> Shirley

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Christopher Pitbladdo <avid@digitalbuddy.co.uk>

> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:13 pm

> Subject: [Avid-L2] Great Little iPad app For Making Notes On A Sequence

>

> Not sure if anyone's heard of this, but I've been using a little app for

>

> the iPad for a week or so that lets you make notes on a sequence you're

>

> watching back, without the need to add timecodes, then export your

>

> annotations as locators.

>

> It's called 'Cut Notes'.

>

> I've genuinely found it useful, and not gimmicky at all. You just tell

>

> it your frame rate, starting timecode, then hit play on the Avid and the

>

> iPad, and you're off! When you're done, you email the locator file, and

>

> pop it somewhere that the Avid can see, and that's that.

>

> CP

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Re: [Avid-L2] Great Little iPad app For Making Notes On A Sequence

 

Yes Shirley, you're spot on.

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On 22 Jan 2011, at 22:32, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@aol.com> wrote:

> This is probably a dim question, but what is the iPad "playing" when you "hit play?" Does it just run a sort of frame based clock?
>
> Shirley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Pitbladdo <avid@digitalbuddy.co.uk>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:13 pm
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Great Little iPad app For Making Notes On A Sequence
>
> Not sure if anyone's heard of this, but I've been using a little app for
>
> the iPad for a week or so that lets you make notes on a sequence you're
>
> watching back, without the need to add timecodes, then export your
>
> annotations as locators.
>
> It's called 'Cut Notes'.
>
> I've genuinely found it useful, and not gimmicky at all. You just tell
>
> it your frame rate, starting timecode, then hit play on the Avid and the
>
> iPad, and you're off! When you're done, you email the locator file, and
>
> pop it somewhere that the Avid can see, and that's that.
>
> CP
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: FREE FCP -> Avid Media Composer classes at San Francisco Supermeet!

 

wow, how times have changed.....

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Re: [Avid-L2] Great Little iPad app For Making Notes On A Sequence

 

This is probably a dim question, but what is the iPad "playing" when you "hit play?" Does it just run a sort of frame based clock?

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Pitbladdo <avid@digitalbuddy.co.uk>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:13 pm
Subject: [Avid-L2] Great Little iPad app For Making Notes On A Sequence

Not sure if anyone's heard of this, but I've been using a little app for

the iPad for a week or so that lets you make notes on a sequence you're

watching back, without the need to add timecodes, then export your

annotations as locators.

It's called 'Cut Notes'.

I've genuinely found it useful, and not gimmicky at all. You just tell

it your frame rate, starting timecode, then hit play on the Avid and the

iPad, and you're off! When you're done, you email the locator file, and

pop it somewhere that the Avid can see, and that's that.

CP

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[Avid-L2] FREE FCP -> Avid Media Composer classes at San Francisco Supermeet!

 

For anyone who is going to the San Francisco Final Cut Pro User Group Supermeet, I will be presenting three FREE classes on making the transition from FCP to Avid.

Obviously, we're not talking about abandoning FCP for Avid, but being proficient and capable with BOTH. As a long-time Avid AND FCP editor (1992 on Avid, 2001 on FCP), I offer up all of the ways FCP folks can leverage their current editing skills when using Avid Media Composer AND show some of the cool things that are exclusively available in Avid that you may want to take advantage of.

I did a training DVD for Class on Demand - "Avid Media Composer for Final Cut Pro Editors" - and I heard from some experienced former Avid editors who were surprised at some of the cool new features that had been added since they switched to FCP, so the classes should appeal to a lot of folks. It's always good to have a sense of what's possible on Avid and how easily you might be able to take an "Avid" job if it came your way. Bring your toughest "I hate Avid because..." questions. Chances are, I'll have an answer that helps you. If I don't, maybe Avid will hear your plea and fix it! (I dare you to say "Avid is modal.") Seriously, I'm a big fan of FCP and Avid, so you're not going to hear any FCP-bashing from me. This is about finding the right tool and using it correctly. Sometimes that tool is Avid and sometimes it's FCP.

I hope you'll join me for one of the three FREE sessions. (It's really THREE opportunities to sit in on the SAME presentation.)

For those that don't know me, I've co-written two books on Avid editing and two books on color correction. I just finished co-editing a feature which will be released in theaters by Sony/Tristar this September, called "Courageous" which was shot on RED and cut on Final Cut Pro. I also edited for The Oprah Winfrey Show (all Avid) and Bill Kurtis' "Investigative Reports" and "Cold Cases" (all Avid Symphony). My production company - Verascope Pictures - mostly does entertainment marketing - trailers, sizzle reels, TV and radio spots - for clients like Universal Studios, Sony Pictures, NBC TV, PBS Kids, Jim Henson Entertainment and VeggieTales. Man, I'm almost starting to believe the hype myself!

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[Avid-L2] HDSLR workflow

 

> blafarm wrote:
> I'm curious about your process with HDSLR media -- specifically on MC:
> Are you referring to the use of MPEG Streamclip and QtChange?
> And if so, would you mind sharing your exact process and order?

Yes, HDSLR footage into MC using MPEG Streamclip and QtChange. I covered it here:

http://tinyurl.com/2bxvdvh (bottom of the article)

I posted the steps on the FCP-L in the "Compressor Q" thread, but here they are again. This covers both my FCP and MC workflows (as of now - always subject to change).

1. Batch convert in MPEG Streamclip to either ProRes (or LT) or Avid DNxHD QT.

2. Place in a folder labelled as a CamRoll number. Use QtChange to add TC.
Assign TC by hour digits. QtChange embeds the folder name as a reel number.

3. Use R-name to taste to append file names.

4a. Import folder of ProRes into FCP.

or

4b. Import DNxHD files into MC. These will "fast import".

The various encoders will all yield slightly different video levels from each
other, but are similar and won't be clipped or crushed. At least not in my
experience. They will APPEAR to have different gamma levels, but this is a
QuickTime player issue. Gamma values will be very close inside FCP, Premiere
Pro, After Effects or Media Composer.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Oliver

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[Avid-L2] Re: AVC-Intra Workflow

 

> > oliverpetersvidy wrote:

>"It's one of the reasons I go through a lot of elaborate steps with HDSLR media in FCP or MC - BEFORE I ever launch the editor".

I'm curious about your process with HDSLR media -- specifically on MC:

Are you referring to the use of MPEG Streamclip and QtChange?
And if so, would you mind sharing your exact process and order?

Thanks very much.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Knut A. Helgeland wrote:
> > AMA allows you to do the work asap, but if you have
> > the luxury of spare time somewhere along the way,
> > you always do the transcode.
>
> Totally agree. Using cloned drives between two remote editors is a pretty typical way for Avid editors to work when they don't use shared storage for collaboration. It's an area where linking/relinking and edit-it-place techniques are really dicey, unless everyone is very careful.
>
> It's exactly those issues that become the bane of existence for "finishing" post houses when an offline editor brings an FCP job in for onlining. The more time you take to control your media management so that it becomes idiot-proof down the road, the better off you'll be. It's one of the reasons I go through a lot of elaborate steps with HDSLR media in FCP or MC - BEFORE I ever launch the editor.
>
> Although a number of us have mentioned positive experiences in this thread about AMA and P2 media, all you have to do is poke back through the Avid-L2 or Avid Forums and you'll see many posts from people who did "all the right things", but their AMA media no longer linked for one reason or another.
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Friday, January 21, 2011

[Avid-L2] FS: SDI Mojo

 

In case anyone is interested in an SDI Mojo in great condition:

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Thanks,
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Re: [Avid-L2] Great Little iPad app For Making Notes On A Sequence

It's designed by working assistant-editor Nate Orloff - I haven't used it
yet, but I've been following along a bit on Twitter (@NateOrloff and
@CutNotes)...

Dylan Reeve
http://dylanreeve.com/


On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Job ter Burg (L2B) <Job_L2@terburg.com>wrote:

>
>
> Thanks for the tip, Christopher. Just downloaded it and played with it.
> Looks like it could be very useful.
>
> rgds,
> Job.
>
>
> On 21 jan 2011, at 00:13, Christopher Pitbladdo wrote:
>
> > Not sure if anyone's heard of this, but I've been using a little app for
> > the iPad for a week or so that lets you make notes on a sequence you're
> > watching back, without the need to add timecodes, then export your
> > annotations as locators.
> >
> > It's called 'Cut Notes'.
> >
> > I've genuinely found it useful, and not gimmicky at all. You just tell
> > it your frame rate, starting timecode, then hit play on the Avid and the
> > iPad, and you're off! When you're done, you email the locator file, and
> > pop it somewhere that the Avid can see, and that's that.
>
>


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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: AVC-Intra Workflow

I've not had considerable issues with AMA. It depends a lot of codecs
probably, the performance we get from XDCAM as AMA is fine. With H.264 we
usually need to transcode to ensure reliable media performance.

I prefer the Avid-native media management, but still AMA seems like a
slightly better implementation of edit-in-place workflow than in many other
systems. The NLE builds an index of mounted media when you point it at the
AMA media, so it can relink files reliably without manual intervention. This
behaviour can be a little quirky at times, but overall it seems to work
pretty well.

Our workflow is usually and offline/online one - AMA media (XDCAM and DSLR
usually) is trancoded to offline SD resolution (10:1 or DV25) and then
edited. When the cut is finished the sequence it relinked to the AMA media
to "up res" and then the entire sequence transcoded to a common format for
finishing.

I want to see improvements in AMA, but it's pretty solid.

Dylan Reeve
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Terence Curren <tcurren@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> DON'T use AMA for long form. Too many issues with relinking as time goes
> on. Use AMA to log and then transcode your footage to DNxHD and never look
> back.
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>, Jason Gillet
> <jsg5403@...> wrote:
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was curious how people are working with AVC-Intra. I haven't actually
> cut
> > anything in this format long form and I wanted to know if it's best to
> load as
> > AMA and work with it that way or are people converting it to DNXHD once
> it's
> > loaded.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jason Gillet
> > Editor/Engineer
> > Moving Pictures NYC
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[Avid-L2] Re: AVC-Intra Workflow

 



The problem with idiot proof systems is someone just comes up with a better idiot.

Although, we just recently upgraded from Symphony v3 to v5, and I'm lovin' AMA. (Bring it in, work with it, transcode overnight)

Steve Pomerantz
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--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> Wow maybe I'm reading that the wrong way Oliver but it sounds like a challenge. ;-) Any editor worth their salt should be able to break even the most "Idiot Proof" system. Isn't that what NAB is all about. Make it crash right in front of the manufacturer and potential clients.
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@> wrote:
> >
> ...The more time you take to control your media management so that it becomes idiot-proof down the road, the better off you'll be....
> >
> > - Oliver
> >
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[Avid-L2] Re: AVC-Intra Workflow

 

Wow maybe I'm reading that the wrong way Oliver but it sounds like a challenge. ;-) Any editor worth their salt should be able to break even the most "Idiot Proof" system. Isn't that what NAB is all about. Make it crash right in front of the manufacturer and potential clients.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
>
...The more time you take to control your media management so that it becomes idiot-proof down the road, the better off you'll be....
>
> - Oliver
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Re: [Avid-L2] Great Little iPad app For Making Notes On A Sequence

 

Thanks for the tip, Christopher. Just downloaded it and played with it. Looks like it could be very useful.

rgds,
Job.

On 21 jan 2011, at 00:13, Christopher Pitbladdo wrote:

> Not sure if anyone's heard of this, but I've been using a little app for
> the iPad for a week or so that lets you make notes on a sequence you're
> watching back, without the need to add timecodes, then export your
> annotations as locators.
>
> It's called 'Cut Notes'.
>
> I've genuinely found it useful, and not gimmicky at all. You just tell
> it your frame rate, starting timecode, then hit play on the Avid and the
> iPad, and you're off! When you're done, you email the locator file, and
> pop it somewhere that the Avid can see, and that's that.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: AVC-Intra Workflow

One other thing that AMA is good for (vs. the old Avid 'Import' workflow)
It is much faster creating the appropriate Avid media files.

I suppose this doesn't answer L&T vs. AMA issue - but is something that makes a large difference for us in starting an Avid job.

One other thing I really like about it, is it's ability to lay off to video without having to transcode to anything.
For example H.264 camera files go down to HDCamSR in real time vs. the time we have to spend 'rendering' to pro res to lay off in FCP.


Jeff


On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Philip Hodgetts wrote:

>
> On Jan 21, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Bouke wrote:
>
> > Must admit, my L&T is rusty...
> > (I do mainly Sony material...)
> > But think of the entire way Avid works, Avid needed clips to be Avid files.
> > That is gone, any file can now be played trough the entire pipeline.
> > FCP always has been an advanced QT player that can handle any QT compatible
> > file.
>
> I wish it could handle more than 10% of QT files. In reality FCP only handles QT files that are video files. That's about 10% of the (current and soon to be gone) QT capability.
>
> >
> > For my understanding,
> > can you edit with L&T mounted material and then media manage?
> > (from memory, MM needs a reelname to be present)
>
> You can edit with L&T proxies and then media manage after editorial. I've done that with RED material.
>
> To be clear: I know AMA allows immediate editing but the recommendation from Terry, and others, is to use AMA to make selects and transcode those to DNxHD before editing. To me that's so close to L&T, where you make selects and transcode before editing, that I'm just not seeing the difference - for the recommended workflow.
>
> To be further clear. I know that FCP/L&T doesn't allow any editing before transcoding and AMA does, but people are recommending against that unless it's a very short and quick turn job.
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: AVC-Intra Workflow

 



> Knut A. Helgeland wrote:
> AMA allows you to do the work asap, but if you have
> the luxury of spare time somewhere along the way,
> you always do the transcode.

Totally agree. Using cloned drives between two remote editors is a pretty typical way for Avid editors to work when they don't use shared storage for collaboration. It's an area where linking/relinking and edit-it-place techniques are really dicey, unless everyone is very careful.

It's exactly those issues that become the bane of existence for "finishing" post houses when an offline editor brings an FCP job in for onlining. The more time you take to control your media management so that it becomes idiot-proof down the road, the better off you'll be. It's one of the reasons I go through a lot of elaborate steps with HDSLR media in FCP or MC - BEFORE I ever launch the editor.

Although a number of us have mentioned positive experiences in this thread about AMA and P2 media, all you have to do is poke back through the Avid-L2 or Avid Forums and you'll see many posts from people who did "all the right things", but their AMA media no longer linked for one reason or another.

- Oliver

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