Saturday, March 9, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Maintain original aspect ratio?

fixed link:

http://community.avid.com/forums/p/115244/667487.aspx


On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Mark Spano <cutandcover@gmail.com> wrote:

> Be careful. Changing reformat works, but isn't sticking when you transcode.
>
> http://community.avid.com/forums/p/115244/667487
>
> Still not fixed.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Pat Horridge <pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> With AMA you can enable the column heading reformat and change it to
>> letter/pillarbox instead of stretch.
>> Also check the image aspect is set correct for 4:3 or 16:9
>> Should work for import as well.
>>
>> Pat from his mobile
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Maintain original aspect ratio?

Be careful. Changing reformat works, but isn't sticking when you transcode.

http://community.avid.com/forums/p/115244/667487

Still not fixed.


On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Pat Horridge <pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:

> **
>
>
> With AMA you can enable the column heading reformat and change it to
> letter/pillarbox instead of stretch.
> Also check the image aspect is set correct for 4:3 or 16:9
> Should work for import as well.
>
> Pat from his mobile
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[Avid-L2] Re: Maintain original aspect ratio?

 

With AMA you can enable the column heading reformat and change it to letter/pillarbox instead of stretch.
Also check the image aspect is set correct for 4:3 or 16:9
Should work for import as well.

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[Avid-L2] Re: 5.1 audio in Avid DVD?

 

Pretty sure it does if you bring in 5.1 Ac3

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Re: [Avid-L2] Maintain original aspect ratio?

 

The project's 16:9 30i.

Will do all these things Monday morning. Ideally, I'd like the clips to
import and preserve their original AR, as opposed to applying an effect
later on. Will try it out. Thanks!

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:48 AM, electropura212 <electropura212@gmail.com>wrote:

> Are you editing in 16:9 SD or HD?
>
> Make the Image Aspect Ratio and Reformat Columns in your bin visible.
> Adjust accordingly.
>
> Note..these settings will be non-functional if you import an SD 4:3 image
> into an HD project. The stretch will be "baked in", as all HD material is
> assumed to be 16:9.
>
> If working in HD, it's best to import/capture SD images into an SD 4:3
> project first (or temporarily change your project settings). Then these
> columns in the bin will be active and you can reformat without adding an
> effect.
>
> If you are editing all SD, then the columns should be active and you should
> be able to re-format.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Adjust accordingly.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 9, 2013, bouke wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Aspect ratio is defined by the project settings.
> > Do not forget, in SD, both 4:3 and 16:9 have exact the same pixels
> > There is a flag that defines how it is shown.
> > So, your only worry is to get the image in you raster (720 x 576 PAL or
> > 720
> > x 486 NTSC).
> > Then tell Avid if the project is 16:9 or 4:3
> > Clips that do not match do need a scaling effect. (pan / scan)
> >
> > Thus, if you have a 4:3 image in a 16:9 project, and you don't want the
> > image distorted,
> > you need to cut out 'some' part of the image, and it'll be blown up.
> > Quality
> > loss, yes, but there is no other option.
> > Shots like clouds / trees / wide nature shots you might get away without
> > scaling, just look at the image.
> >
> > hth,
> >
> > Bouke
> >
> > VideoToolShed
> > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > The Netherlands
> > +31 24 3553311
> > www.videotoolshed.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Breiburg" <mike.breiburg@gmail.com <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml',
> > 'mike.breiburg%40gmail.com');>>
> > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> > 'Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com');>>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Maintain original aspect ratio?
> >
> > > I've already tried that. What ends up happening is that it keeps the
> > > image
> > > close to the original size yet it still adjusts it's aspect ratio :(
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Michael Kedor <mikedor@gmail.com<javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'mikedor%40gmail.com');>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> When you import select "do not resize smaller videos"
> > >>
> > >> Sent from iKedor mini
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mar 8, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Mike Breiburg <mike.breiburg@gmail.com<javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'mike.breiburg%40gmail.com');>>
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Running MC 5.5.3.6 on OSX 10.6.7
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm importing videos with various aspect ratios into a 16:9 project
> > and
> > >> was
> > >> > wondering if there's a way to maintain their original aspect ratio
> > upon
> > >> > import, as opposed to applying an effect later on, otherwise all the
> > >> > 4:3
> > >> > videos get stretched out to 16:9. I can change the project to 4:3
> but
> > >> then
> > >> > the same'll happen to the 16:9 videos.
> > >> >
> > >> > Didn't there used to be a maintain aspect ratio option in the import
> > >> > settings? It doesn't seem to be in this version of MC.
> > >> >
> > >> > TIA
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Maintain original aspect ratio?

Are you editing in 16:9 SD or HD?

Make the Image Aspect Ratio and Reformat Columns in your bin visible.
Adjust accordingly.

Note..these settings will be non-functional if you import an SD 4:3 image
into an HD project. The stretch will be "baked in", as all HD material is
assumed to be 16:9.

If working in HD, it's best to import/capture SD images into an SD 4:3
project first (or temporarily change your project settings). Then these
columns in the bin will be active and you can reformat without adding an
effect.

If you are editing all SD, then the columns should be active and you should
be able to re-format.







Adjust accordingly.



On Saturday, March 9, 2013, bouke wrote:

> **
>
>
> Aspect ratio is defined by the project settings.
> Do not forget, in SD, both 4:3 and 16:9 have exact the same pixels
> There is a flag that defines how it is shown.
> So, your only worry is to get the image in you raster (720 x 576 PAL or
> 720
> x 486 NTSC).
> Then tell Avid if the project is 16:9 or 4:3
> Clips that do not match do need a scaling effect. (pan / scan)
>
> Thus, if you have a 4:3 image in a 16:9 project, and you don't want the
> image distorted,
> you need to cut out 'some' part of the image, and it'll be blown up.
> Quality
> loss, yes, but there is no other option.
> Shots like clouds / trees / wide nature shots you might get away without
> scaling, just look at the image.
>
> hth,
>
> Bouke
>
> VideoToolShed
> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> The Netherlands
> +31 24 3553311
> www.videotoolshed.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Breiburg" <mike.breiburg@gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'mike.breiburg%40gmail.com');>>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com');>>
> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Maintain original aspect ratio?
>
> > I've already tried that. What ends up happening is that it keeps the
> > image
> > close to the original size yet it still adjusts it's aspect ratio :(
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Michael Kedor <mikedor@gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'mikedor%40gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> When you import select "do not resize smaller videos"
> >>
> >> Sent from iKedor mini
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 8, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Mike Breiburg <mike.breiburg@gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'mike.breiburg%40gmail.com');>>
>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Running MC 5.5.3.6 on OSX 10.6.7
> >> >
> >> > I'm importing videos with various aspect ratios into a 16:9 project
> and
> >> was
> >> > wondering if there's a way to maintain their original aspect ratio
> upon
> >> > import, as opposed to applying an effect later on, otherwise all the
> >> > 4:3
> >> > videos get stretched out to 16:9. I can change the project to 4:3 but
> >> then
> >> > the same'll happen to the 16:9 videos.
> >> >
> >> > Didn't there used to be a maintain aspect ratio option in the import
> >> > settings? It doesn't seem to be in this version of MC.
> >> >
> >> > TIA
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Maintain original aspect ratio?

 

Aspect ratio is defined by the project settings.
Do not forget, in SD, both 4:3 and 16:9 have exact the same pixels
There is a flag that defines how it is shown.
So, your only worry is to get the image in you raster (720 x 576 PAL or 720
x 486 NTSC).
Then tell Avid if the project is 16:9 or 4:3
Clips that do not match do need a scaling effect. (pan / scan)

Thus, if you have a 4:3 image in a 16:9 project, and you don't want the
image distorted,
you need to cut out 'some' part of the image, and it'll be blown up. Quality
loss, yes, but there is no other option.
Shots like clouds / trees / wide nature shots you might get away without
scaling, just look at the image.

hth,

Bouke

VideoToolShed
van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
6512 AS NIJMEGEN
The Netherlands
+31 24 3553311
www.videotoolshed.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Breiburg" <mike.breiburg@gmail.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Maintain original aspect ratio?

> I've already tried that. What ends up happening is that it keeps the
> image
> close to the original size yet it still adjusts it's aspect ratio :(
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Michael Kedor <mikedor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> When you import select "do not resize smaller videos"
>>
>> Sent from iKedor mini
>>
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Mike Breiburg <mike.breiburg@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Running MC 5.5.3.6 on OSX 10.6.7
>> >
>> > I'm importing videos with various aspect ratios into a 16:9 project and
>> was
>> > wondering if there's a way to maintain their original aspect ratio upon
>> > import, as opposed to applying an effect later on, otherwise all the
>> > 4:3
>> > videos get stretched out to 16:9. I can change the project to 4:3 but
>> then
>> > the same'll happen to the 16:9 videos.
>> >
>> > Didn't there used to be a maintain aspect ratio option in the import
>> > settings? It doesn't seem to be in this version of MC.
>> >
>> > TIA
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Maintain original aspect ratio?

I've already tried that. What ends up happening is that it keeps the image
close to the original size yet it still adjusts it's aspect ratio :(

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Michael Kedor <mikedor@gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> When you import select "do not resize smaller videos"
>
> Sent from iKedor mini
>
>
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Mike Breiburg <mike.breiburg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Running MC 5.5.3.6 on OSX 10.6.7
> >
> > I'm importing videos with various aspect ratios into a 16:9 project and
> was
> > wondering if there's a way to maintain their original aspect ratio upon
> > import, as opposed to applying an effect later on, otherwise all the 4:3
> > videos get stretched out to 16:9. I can change the project to 4:3 but
> then
> > the same'll happen to the 16:9 videos.
> >
> > Didn't there used to be a maintain aspect ratio option in the import
> > settings? It doesn't seem to be in this version of MC.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
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Friday, March 8, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] Maintain original aspect ratio?

 

When you import select "do not resize smaller videos"

Sent from iKedor mini

On Mar 8, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Mike Breiburg <mike.breiburg@gmail.com> wrote:

> Running MC 5.5.3.6 on OSX 10.6.7
>
> I'm importing videos with various aspect ratios into a 16:9 project and was
> wondering if there's a way to maintain their original aspect ratio upon
> import, as opposed to applying an effect later on, otherwise all the 4:3
> videos get stretched out to 16:9. I can change the project to 4:3 but then
> the same'll happen to the 16:9 videos.
>
> Didn't there used to be a maintain aspect ratio option in the import
> settings? It doesn't seem to be in this version of MC.
>
> TIA
>
> Mike
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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[Avid-L2] Maintain original aspect ratio?

 

Running MC 5.5.3.6 on OSX 10.6.7

I'm importing videos with various aspect ratios into a 16:9 project and was
wondering if there's a way to maintain their original aspect ratio upon
import, as opposed to applying an effect later on, otherwise all the 4:3
videos get stretched out to 16:9. I can change the project to 4:3 but then
the same'll happen to the 16:9 videos.

Didn't there used to be a maintain aspect ratio option in the import
settings? It doesn't seem to be in this version of MC.

TIA

Mike

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Re: [Avid-L2] Hope for Avid - Interplay Connect and Sphere

 

Sphere's not the problem. It's all of the products called Interplay.

Steve Hullfish
contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"

On Mar 8, 2013, at 4:28 PM, paulsampson100 <paulsampson100@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I never use the word SPHERE- it makes a simple concept appear more difficult than it is.
>
> I just say I am remote editing with Media Composer or Newscutter. This is done using a plugin called SPHERE. This plugin allows the editing system to open an 'Interplay Window' to see and edit with assets back at the central server. The SPHERE plugin also allows me to upload clips or sequences to the plant.
>
> Simple really, once you get beyond the meaningless marketing term SPHERE.
>

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[Avid-L2] 5.1 audio in Avid DVD?

 

Avid DVD by Sonic v 6.4.4 Does this do 5.1 audio on BluRay? In the documentation it says it does, but I don't see the 5.1 audio option in the Audio project setting window.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Hope for Avid - Interplay Connect and Sphere

 

I never use the word SPHERE- it makes a simple concept appear more difficult than it is.

I just say I am remote editing with Media Composer or Newscutter. This is done using a plugin called SPHERE. This plugin allows the editing system to open an 'Interplay Window' to see and edit with assets back at the central server. The SPHERE plugin also allows me to upload clips or sequences to the plant.

Simple really, once you get beyond the meaningless marketing term SPHERE.

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT! any leads for a location crew in Dublin? (Ireland, not Ohio)

Hey Donnie. Give this guy a try:

Patrick (Paddy) Barron
barronfilms@eircom.net
011 353 861026890

Paddy has shot for my company on 3 different occasions in Ireland.

On the plus side, he's an actual Irish guy who lives there!

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(before it moved out to Mishawaka...)




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>
> Hey, all!,
>
> My client is looking for a small crew to shoot four unsupervised
> interviews around Dublin. Probably just talking heads.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Donnie Rogers
> VP of Technology
> Grass Roots Media, Inc.
> 115 N. William Street
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[Avid-L2] Re: Who needs 4K?

 

Most of us on this list would agree that having the highest possible resolution at acquisition gives us greater flexibility and quality in the post process to create our work. My original point was not that we should turn our noses up at 4k. It was to point out that within finite budgets we have to make hard decisions. If I am shooting a factual documentary and have the option of capturing one interview with an expensive camera or three with a less expensive camera, I would choose the latter, as doing the former would not be a fair treatment of the subject matter. Fortunately we have a new breed of affordable high quality cameras that can mostly provide the best of both worlds.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...> wrote:
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> Andi's got it. I want more resolution, period. Not for the sake of it
> looking more 'real', but for the sake of quality. To preserve the potential
> for the experience. This is something that people who turn their noses up
> at high-fidelity-philes don't get. Higher resolution allows for the finer
> resolving of detail. Even if that detail is grain, noise, motion blur,
> reverb trails, perspective and spatial cues, etc. - I want to see and hear
> that. Right now there are a small number of theaters in NYC that have
> installed 4K projectors. I've definitely noticed the difference. Some
> theaters have beefed up their audio reproduction systems with higher
> headroom amplifiers. An amp can resolve fine details easier when it doesn't
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> Yes, there's definitely something to be said about it being the performance
> that matters, not how it was captured. That a crappy dictaphone recording
> of a great performance is still awesome. I agree, but how amazing would it
> be to have had a master tape recorder capturing that? How much better is it
> to watch Friends and Seinfeld in HD, remastered from the 35mm? My opinion:
> SO much.
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> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Andi Meek <kwikpasta@...> wrote:
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> > Just because the camera is capturing something with perfect clarity,
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> > see a great story captured beautifully than a great story told by a phone
> > camera. To me, a beautifully shot scene is still an important part of the
> > film-going experience. I don't want it to look like I could have shot it.
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> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
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> > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:20:37 +0000
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Who needs 4K?
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> > > I would notice. I'd say 'wow for such a great story like this you'd think
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> > > they could've shot better than VHS'. We see it every time, the iPhone
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