Saturday, August 3, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: True 24fps into MC7 again

 

I too had good results with the Brorsoft converter for the video. I can't seem to get my split audio tracks to come across separate. The MXF shows mono in Brorsoft while it plays correctly in the Canon utility. Has anyone else experienced this?
BTW, FCP imported and converted my 24FPS fine. Though the audio issue remained.

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks!
Chris

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Kedor <mikedor@...> wrote:
>
> I've used Brorsoft MXF converter for the Canon C300 with great results.
>
> http://www.brorsoft.com/video-converter-mac/
>
> Kedor
>
> Sent from iKedor mini
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@...> wrote:
>
> According to Dom, true 24fps is not supported by AMA.
>
> So my footage IS 24fps. How can I get it into Avid? Anything else that can read C300 and spit out MXF or DNxHD?
>
> Steve
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>
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 2:27 PM 0 comments

RE: [Avid-L2] Help - converting ProRes to DNxHD on a PC

 

The problem is easily fixed; don't use ProRes ;-)

[I am joking] [this is a light hearted comment]

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-----Original Message-----
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Of John Pale
Sent: 03 August 2013 16:34
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Help - converting ProRes to DNxHD on a PC

I don't know if its circles...it's certainly gone off the rails...the
OP did not even have ProRes files...they were Apple Uncompressed 10
bit...and his problem was easily solved way up thread.

Everybody wants to find a way to get a PC to make ProRes files, as if
that's some kind of holy grail.

On Saturday, August 3, 2013, Job ter Burg (L2B) wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> And back to gamma shifts.
>
> Thread is going in circles now, folks.
>
> On 3 aug. 2013, at 13:27, "adrian califf"
> <adriancal@sky.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'adriancal%40sky.com');>>
> wrote:
>
> > For encoding Prores files on a pc at desktop level
> >
> > http://www.fallenempiredigital.com/blog/prhelpersoftware/
> >
> > On a Mac, sure. On a PC: no, sir.
> >
> > On 1 aug. 2013, at 19:22, namyrb
> > <mailto:namyrb%40gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> > 'namyrb%2540gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> You can create prores via mixdowns and then export SAS QT.
>
>
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 9:48 AM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] Re: Title tool colors

 

It's a bug and Avid is aware of it. The "Safe Colors" don't work in the Title tool anymore.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger Shufflebottom <rogershuff@...> wrote:
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> Hmm . . . just tried that. No good. Different but not right.
> �
> With Best Wishes,
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> +44 7973 543 660
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>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Greg Huson <Greg@...>
> >To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013, 17:54
> >Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Title tool colors
> >
> >
> >I've definitely seen that - but my issue is something different.� Interestingly, though, with the 'sampling' problem, if you go into the apple color tools that are buried further in there (the crayon box, etc) and use the sampler that's native to the OS, you DO get the correct sample.�
> >
> >Ha!
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> >
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> >
> >
> >On Aug 2, 2013, at 3:17 AM, Roger Shufflebottom <rogershuff@...> wrote:
> >
> >> What I've observed (and reported) is (v5, v6, v7) is that the eyedropper in the standard Avid Title Tool will not sample background colours correctly (I put a thread on the forum some while back). Values are way out making it useless for matching text colour to a packshot or somesuch. This may lead to what you see. Try a test with some known values like colour bars and see what you get.
> >>�
> >> With Best Wishes,
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> >> +44 7973 543 660
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> >> >________________________________
> >> > From: Greg Huson <Greg@...>
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> >> >Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2013, 18:54
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> >> >�
> >> >Just noticed we're getting illegal colors out of title tool in v7. Anyone else seeing that?
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 8:53 AM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Help - converting ProRes to DNxHD on a PC

I don't know if its circles...it's certainly gone off the rails...the OP
did not even have ProRes files...they were Apple Uncompressed 10 bit...and
his problem was easily solved way up thread.

Everybody wants to find a way to get a PC to make ProRes files, as if
that's some kind of holy grail.

On Saturday, August 3, 2013, Job ter Burg (L2B) wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> And back to gamma shifts.
>
> Thread is going in circles now, folks.
>
> On 3 aug. 2013, at 13:27, "adrian califf" <adriancal@sky.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'adriancal%40sky.com');>>
> wrote:
>
> > For encoding Prores files on a pc at desktop level
> >
> > http://www.fallenempiredigital.com/blog/prhelpersoftware/
> >
> > On a Mac, sure. On a PC: no, sir.
> >
> > On 1 aug. 2013, at 19:22, namyrb <mailto:namyrb%40gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'namyrb%2540gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> You can create prores via mixdowns and then export SAS QT.
>
>
>


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Re: [Avid-L2] pro res export seems washed out

 

db??

Sent by magic over t'interweb

On 3 Aug 2013, at 02:07, Ofer Raveh <o.raveh@att.net> wrote:

> Hi Lou,
>
> I found online the following recommendation:
> Try different QT Export filters to match the image:
> Brightness: between -12db and -14db; Contrast:between -3db and -5db.
>
>
> Ofer Raveh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com>
> To: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 9:06 AM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] pro res export seems washed out
>
>
>
>
> I am exporting my 1080 seq to pro res for delivery but the blacks seem washed out a bit. Blacks are not as rich at all. I know I am looking at the QT on my apple monitor but still should look a little better.project is YCbCr 709 and I export with color levels set at 601/709. Should I export RGB?
> That does not seem to change much.
>
> thanks
> Lou
> Lou Wirth Productions
> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> Corte Madera, CA 94925
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[Avid-L2] Re: os compatibility chart for Avid

 

If your installed OS is v10.8.4, you could try applying the v10.8.3 combo updater that Mark linked to. If Apple doesn't have any checks in the Installer that will prevent you from running the v10.8.3 combo updater, it will be the closest you will get to a v10.8.3 install. The combo updater overwrites every single file related to the OS that has changed since v10.8.0 was released. In theory, it should allow you to downgrade your OS. The only place this would fail is if v10.8.4 introduced an entirely new file that did not exist in v10.8.3.

This is another reason to keep your Install Mountain Lion app from the App Store in a safe place.

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> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1640
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>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > went to the app store and could not find 10.8.3 any longer. Will have to
> > track down through apple support.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Help - converting ProRes to DNxHD on a PC

 


And back to gamma shifts.

Thread is going in circles now, folks.

On 3 aug. 2013, at 13:27, "adrian califf" <adriancal@sky.com> wrote:

> For encoding Prores files on a pc at desktop level
>
> http://www.fallenempiredigital.com/blog/prhelpersoftware/
>
> On a Mac, sure. On a PC: no, sir.
>
> On 1 aug. 2013, at 19:22, namyrb <mailto:namyrb%40gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You can create prores via mixdowns and then export SAS QT.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Help - converting ProRes to DNxHD on a PC

 

For encoding Prores files on a pc at desktop level

http://www.fallenempiredigital.com/blog/prhelpersoftware/

On a Mac, sure. On a PC: no, sir.

On 1 aug. 2013, at 19:22, namyrb <mailto:namyrb%40gmail.com> wrote:

> You can create prores via mixdowns and then export SAS QT.

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Friday, August 2, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: Can you switch color spaces?

 

Standard DNX 220 definitely works in Resolve. RGB might give more range in color correction etc... it depends on the final delivery concerns. For TV DNX 220 is fine although I have recently found it easier to use the Red Raw when taking an Avid project to Resolve for a round trip train wreck.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan" <ndowning72@...> wrote:
>
> Steve was asking on my behalf. We were doing our first Avid MC v7 to Resolve v9 roundtrip last week. I made the mistake of reading the Resolve manual and found this on page 186:
>
> "Step 1—Create a Project in Media Composer
> 1. When creating a project in Media Composer, take note of the image format details, as these
> should be matched in DaVinci Resolve. In particular, set the image format (e.g., 1080p/24) and
> raster dimensions (e.g., 1920x1080) to match your desired mastering format. Also, color space
> should be set to RGB 709 if you're planning to send ingested/transcoded media from Media
> Composer to Resolve for grading.
> Note: This information can also be found in the Avid Project Format tab."
>
> I'm guessing that it might just be a typo or misunderstanding in the writing of the manual now. I'll do another test with YCbCr media this time in a project on Monday.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Brockington <brocking@> wrote:
> >
> > I just finished preparing an Avid project for round-trip through Resolve
> > at a facility that seems to have a well-tested workflow. Their delivery
> > specs made no mention of such a limitation, and all footage was
> > delivered as DNx175x (so YCbCr) with no complaint so far.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --Michael
> >
> > On 13-08-02 3:27 PM, Steve Hullfish wrote:
> > > This is second hand from a client. I'll try to open a YCbCr sequence in an RGB project and transcode.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Mark Spano <cutandcover@> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Pardon the non-informational exclamation, but if Resolve can't take YCbCr
> > >> files, I heartily laugh at Resolve.
> > >>
> > >> Back to your originally scheduled programming…
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> It's not that I'm expecting an appreciable quality difference, it's that I
> > >>> was told that Resolve needs the RGB encoded files and CAN'T use the YCbCr
> > >>> encoded files. So it's not quality, it's transferability to Resolve.
> > >>>
> > >>> Steve
> > >>>
> > >>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 2:02 PM, blafarm <blafarm@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> My understanding is that you'd have to recapture your source material
> > >>> with the project set to RGB. Of course, if you're only bringing in 4:2:2
> > >>> media, I don't know what the difference would be.
> > >>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@> wrote:
> > >>>>> If you set up a project as a REC709 YCbCr project, but - after the
> > >>> off-line is complete - determine that you want to go to Resolve for color
> > >>> correction and Resolve requires REC709RGB media, can you somehow transfer
> > >>> your YCbCr project to RGB?
> > >>>>> Steve
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 8:34 PM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] Re: Can you switch color spaces?

 

Steve was asking on my behalf. We were doing our first Avid MC v7 to Resolve v9 roundtrip last week. I made the mistake of reading the Resolve manual and found this on page 186:

"Step 1—Create a Project in Media Composer
1. When creating a project in Media Composer, take note of the image format details, as these
should be matched in DaVinci Resolve. In particular, set the image format (e.g., 1080p/24) and
raster dimensions (e.g., 1920x1080) to match your desired mastering format. Also, color space
should be set to RGB 709 if you're planning to send ingested/transcoded media from Media
Composer to Resolve for grading.
Note: This information can also be found in the Avid Project Format tab."

I'm guessing that it might just be a typo or misunderstanding in the writing of the manual now. I'll do another test with YCbCr media this time in a project on Monday.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Brockington <brocking@...> wrote:
>
> I just finished preparing an Avid project for round-trip through Resolve
> at a facility that seems to have a well-tested workflow. Their delivery
> specs made no mention of such a limitation, and all footage was
> delivered as DNx175x (so YCbCr) with no complaint so far.
>
> Cheers,
> --Michael
>
> On 13-08-02 3:27 PM, Steve Hullfish wrote:
> > This is second hand from a client. I'll try to open a YCbCr sequence in an RGB project and transcode.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Pardon the non-informational exclamation, but if Resolve can't take YCbCr
> >> files, I heartily laugh at Resolve.
> >>
> >> Back to your originally scheduled programming…
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@...>wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's not that I'm expecting an appreciable quality difference, it's that I
> >>> was told that Resolve needs the RGB encoded files and CAN'T use the YCbCr
> >>> encoded files. So it's not quality, it's transferability to Resolve.
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 2:02 PM, blafarm <blafarm@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My understanding is that you'd have to recapture your source material
> >>> with the project set to RGB. Of course, if you're only bringing in 4:2:2
> >>> media, I don't know what the difference would be.
> >>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@> wrote:
> >>>>> If you set up a project as a REC709 YCbCr project, but - after the
> >>> off-line is complete - determine that you want to go to Resolve for color
> >>> correction and Resolve requires REC709RGB media, can you somehow transfer
> >>> your YCbCr project to RGB?
> >>>>> Steve
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Avid-L2] pro res export seems washed out

 

Hi Lou,

I found online the following recommendation:
Try different QT Export filters to match the image:
Brightness: between -12db and -14db; Contrast:between -3db and -5db.

Ofer Raveh

________________________________
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To: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 9:06 AM
Subject: [Avid-L2] pro res export seems washed out


 
I am exporting my 1080 seq to pro res for delivery but the blacks seem washed out a bit. Blacks are not as rich at all. I know I am looking at the QT on my apple monitor but still should look a little better.project is YCbCr 709 and I export with color levels set at 601/709. Should I export RGB?
That does not seem to change much.

thanks
Lou
Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com
415-924-9411p

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 6:07 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Can you switch color spaces?

I just finished preparing an Avid project for round-trip through Resolve
at a facility that seems to have a well-tested workflow. Their delivery
specs made no mention of such a limitation, and all footage was
delivered as DNx175x (so YCbCr) with no complaint so far.

Cheers,
--Michael

On 13-08-02 3:27 PM, Steve Hullfish wrote:
> This is second hand from a client. I'll try to open a YCbCr sequence in an RGB project and transcode.
>
> Steve
>
> On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Mark Spano <cutandcover@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Pardon the non-informational exclamation, but if Resolve can't take YCbCr
>> files, I heartily laugh at Resolve.
>>
>> Back to your originally scheduled programming…
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@veralith.com>wrote:
>>
>>> It's not that I'm expecting an appreciable quality difference, it's that I
>>> was told that Resolve needs the RGB encoded files and CAN'T use the YCbCr
>>> encoded files. So it's not quality, it's transferability to Resolve.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 2:02 PM, blafarm <blafarm@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My understanding is that you'd have to recapture your source material
>>> with the project set to RGB. Of course, if you're only bringing in 4:2:2
>>> media, I don't know what the difference would be.
>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@...> wrote:
>>>>> If you set up a project as a REC709 YCbCr project, but - after the
>>> off-line is complete - determine that you want to go to Resolve for color
>>> correction and Resolve requires REC709RGB media, can you somehow transfer
>>> your YCbCr project to RGB?
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Search the official Complete Avid-L archives at:
>>> http://archives.bengrosser.com/avid/
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
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