Saturday, April 18, 2020
[Avid-L2] Looking for an AVID editor to finish passion project short film
Hi,We are finishing our short, Summerville, and need an AVID editor to complete it. It's approximately 25 minutes long Shot on Canon C300 in 4K. Currently, we have about half the film edited rough and need a creative story teller to finish. Again, this is a passion project so here is the pay offered:Edit: $500SFX: $1000Color: $150Sound: $150IMDBIf you would like to discuss further please contact me back. It's great opportunity to put your name on another film, which we will also be shopping around as well as festivals. What are you going to do, watch cat videos on youtube? lolThank you,Paul Darrigo
323-244-8020
Friday, April 17, 2020
Re: [Avid-L2] Off-Topic: Multi-camera NDI recording for non-local clients?
Thanks Marcus!
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I did run across Vmix in my searches. I'll have to kick the tires on that and check it out.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 2:47 AM Marcus Dawson <gen@rail-net.co.uk> wrote:
So obviously off topic and nothing to do with Avid, but anyway...
Bizarrely you missed the one solution I thought of, and have been using
for the last few weeks: vMix
Whilst the easiest set up is not to use NDI, and if it were coming from
a laptop webcam or mobile front facing camera would you need to? But to
use its own vMix call. This allows you to call (limited to 8) people and
have them set up as inputs to the vision mixer section.
There is the facility to record the inputs as individual tracks (thou
your machine will need quit a bit of power if you want to record 8hd
streams at once!)
PowerPoint, it can accept it as a file and play through it or you could
also use this as a call input under a sort of shared screen. If it were
local to the control room then you should be able to output this as an
NDI stream.
If you really do want to do NDI across the internet you will need a
hefty internet connection:
https://support.newtek.com/hc/en-us/articles/217662708-NDI-Network-Bandwidth
"NDI operates most efficiently in a dedicated network with high
bandwidth and high availability. This is in contrast to unmanaged
environments such as the public Internet or networks where video rides
along with data without priority.
While a single stream of HD video can easily be delivered on a Fast
Ethernet (100 Mbps) network, Gigabit (1000 Mbps) networks are essential
in production workflows. A typical NDI stream consisting of 1080i HD
video yields a data rate up to 100 Mbps per stream. This extremely
efficient stream is designed to have very low latency and allows
multiple streams to be stacked together on a single Gigabit network.
So with your 3 speakers and power point that's about 400Mbps coming
in..... And each of your 3 speakers will need 100Mbps out! Again,
probably not worth it for a laptop webcam.
And best of all.. The lovely people at vMix:
https://www.vmix.com/
Have extended their 60 day fully functioning trial to 90 days in
response to the global pandemic.
Hope this helps,
Marcus
On 16/04/2020 21:21, Tim McLaughlin (mcltim.156@gmail.com) wrote:
> With everyone at my company under "stay at home" orders, as well as our
> clients, we have been looking into ways to continue our video production
> with various video conference tools. Some good stuff, some not so great.
> Zoom, Webex, BlueJeans, Skype, etc, etc.
>
> Last week, using a vendor's solution, we were able to produce a short
> series of informational videos with 3 featured speakers and slides from
> a PowerPoint deck. The speakers and the production crew viewers watched
> from laptops and did screen recordings at 2 separate locations: one
> recorded the switched program, the other recorded full screen video of
> the speakers. Took it into Premiere for post and things went pretty well.
>
> BUT, this was a bit of a slow and clunky workflow.
>
> Ideally, we'd run everything through a setup like a NewTek Tricaster
> where we could record each camera input as well as the final switched
> source simultaneously. Camera feeds would come in via an NDI or OBS
> video feed over the internet from any device - smartphone, desktop,
> laptop or remote camera.
>
> The problem we have encountered so far has been that 95% of the NDI
> stuff we've reviewed has been for closed network IP video - the cameras
> and the software/hardware are all supposed to be on the same local
> network. Churches, hospitals, concerts and live events for streaming,
> and so on.
>
> What my company really need is a recording (or live switching) solution
> that allows my "control room" to be here in Chicago with camera feeds
> coming in from multiple remote sources - smartphones, laptops, even if
> we ship them a NDI remote camera.
>
> We are looking at various solutions: mimoLive, Wirecast, Tricaster, OBS,
> and others.
>
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a solution like this?
>
> Or do you have a reseller you could point me to?
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Matching Master Clips don't relink?
Here is a first (Mac only, but I can compile for Windows if needed) version:
On 16 Apr 2020, at 13:41, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:Export your bin as ALE, modify it using my app, then import the fresh ALE, either relink then, or use 'merge'.My app makes it easy to add / modify columns.On 16 Apr 2020, at 12:22, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:What would I actually change using an ALE approach. I've never done much with ALEs but how would that allow me to rename clips from one bin to another bin?
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 03:17 AM, bouke wrote:Can you roundtrip trough ALE?I have an ALEchange app…(No need for command line :-)On 16 Apr 2020, at 08:08, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:but the original master clip bin has my suffix renaming to allow
Re: [Avid-L2] Off-Topic: Multi-camera NDI recording for non-local clients?
So obviously off topic and nothing to do with Avid, but anyway...
Bizarrely you missed the one solution I thought of, and have been using
for the last few weeks: vMix
Whilst the easiest set up is not to use NDI, and if it were coming from
a laptop webcam or mobile front facing camera would you need to? But to
use its own vMix call. This allows you to call (limited to 8) people and
have them set up as inputs to the vision mixer section.
There is the facility to record the inputs as individual tracks (thou
your machine will need quit a bit of power if you want to record 8hd
streams at once!)
PowerPoint, it can accept it as a file and play through it or you could
also use this as a call input under a sort of shared screen. If it were
local to the control room then you should be able to output this as an
NDI stream.
If you really do want to do NDI across the internet you will need a
hefty internet connection:
https://support.newtek.com/hc/en-us/articles/217662708-NDI-Network-Bandwidth
"NDI operates most efficiently in a dedicated network with high
bandwidth and high availability. This is in contrast to unmanaged
environments such as the public Internet or networks where video rides
along with data without priority.
While a single stream of HD video can easily be delivered on a Fast
Ethernet (100 Mbps) network, Gigabit (1000 Mbps) networks are essential
in production workflows. A typical NDI stream consisting of 1080i HD
video yields a data rate up to 100 Mbps per stream. This extremely
efficient stream is designed to have very low latency and allows
multiple streams to be stacked together on a single Gigabit network.
So with your 3 speakers and power point that's about 400Mbps coming
in..... And each of your 3 speakers will need 100Mbps out! Again,
probably not worth it for a laptop webcam.
And best of all.. The lovely people at vMix:
https://www.vmix.com/
Have extended their 60 day fully functioning trial to 90 days in
response to the global pandemic.
Hope this helps,
Marcus
On 16/04/2020 21:21, Tim McLaughlin (mcltim.156@gmail.com) wrote:
> With everyone at my company under "stay at home" orders, as well as our
> clients, we have been looking into ways to continue our video production
> with various video conference tools. Some good stuff, some not so great.
> Zoom, Webex, BlueJeans, Skype, etc, etc.
>
> Last week, using a vendor's solution, we were able to produce a short
> series of informational videos with 3 featured speakers and slides from
> a PowerPoint deck. The speakers and the production crew viewers watched
> from laptops and did screen recordings at 2 separate locations: one
> recorded the switched program, the other recorded full screen video of
> the speakers. Took it into Premiere for post and things went pretty well.
>
> BUT, this was a bit of a slow and clunky workflow.
>
> Ideally, we'd run everything through a setup like a NewTek Tricaster
> where we could record each camera input as well as the final switched
> source simultaneously. Camera feeds would come in via an NDI or OBS
> video feed over the internet from any device - smartphone, desktop,
> laptop or remote camera.
>
> The problem we have encountered so far has been that 95% of the NDI
> stuff we've reviewed has been for closed network IP video - the cameras
> and the software/hardware are all supposed to be on the same local
> network. Churches, hospitals, concerts and live events for streaming,
> and so on.
>
> What my company really need is a recording (or live switching) solution
> that allows my "control room" to be here in Chicago with camera feeds
> coming in from multiple remote sources - smartphones, laptops, even if
> we ship them a NDI remote camera.
>
> We are looking at various solutions: mimoLive, Wirecast, Tricaster, OBS,
> and others.
>
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a solution like this?
>
> Or do you have a reseller you could point me to?
>
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Bizarrely you missed the one solution I thought of, and have been using
for the last few weeks: vMix
Whilst the easiest set up is not to use NDI, and if it were coming from
a laptop webcam or mobile front facing camera would you need to? But to
use its own vMix call. This allows you to call (limited to 8) people and
have them set up as inputs to the vision mixer section.
There is the facility to record the inputs as individual tracks (thou
your machine will need quit a bit of power if you want to record 8hd
streams at once!)
PowerPoint, it can accept it as a file and play through it or you could
also use this as a call input under a sort of shared screen. If it were
local to the control room then you should be able to output this as an
NDI stream.
If you really do want to do NDI across the internet you will need a
hefty internet connection:
https://support.newtek.com/hc/en-us/articles/217662708-NDI-Network-Bandwidth
"NDI operates most efficiently in a dedicated network with high
bandwidth and high availability. This is in contrast to unmanaged
environments such as the public Internet or networks where video rides
along with data without priority.
While a single stream of HD video can easily be delivered on a Fast
Ethernet (100 Mbps) network, Gigabit (1000 Mbps) networks are essential
in production workflows. A typical NDI stream consisting of 1080i HD
video yields a data rate up to 100 Mbps per stream. This extremely
efficient stream is designed to have very low latency and allows
multiple streams to be stacked together on a single Gigabit network.
So with your 3 speakers and power point that's about 400Mbps coming
in..... And each of your 3 speakers will need 100Mbps out! Again,
probably not worth it for a laptop webcam.
And best of all.. The lovely people at vMix:
https://www.vmix.com/
Have extended their 60 day fully functioning trial to 90 days in
response to the global pandemic.
Hope this helps,
Marcus
On 16/04/2020 21:21, Tim McLaughlin (mcltim.156@gmail.com) wrote:
> With everyone at my company under "stay at home" orders, as well as our
> clients, we have been looking into ways to continue our video production
> with various video conference tools. Some good stuff, some not so great.
> Zoom, Webex, BlueJeans, Skype, etc, etc.
>
> Last week, using a vendor's solution, we were able to produce a short
> series of informational videos with 3 featured speakers and slides from
> a PowerPoint deck. The speakers and the production crew viewers watched
> from laptops and did screen recordings at 2 separate locations: one
> recorded the switched program, the other recorded full screen video of
> the speakers. Took it into Premiere for post and things went pretty well.
>
> BUT, this was a bit of a slow and clunky workflow.
>
> Ideally, we'd run everything through a setup like a NewTek Tricaster
> where we could record each camera input as well as the final switched
> source simultaneously. Camera feeds would come in via an NDI or OBS
> video feed over the internet from any device - smartphone, desktop,
> laptop or remote camera.
>
> The problem we have encountered so far has been that 95% of the NDI
> stuff we've reviewed has been for closed network IP video - the cameras
> and the software/hardware are all supposed to be on the same local
> network. Churches, hospitals, concerts and live events for streaming,
> and so on.
>
> What my company really need is a recording (or live switching) solution
> that allows my "control room" to be here in Chicago with camera feeds
> coming in from multiple remote sources - smartphones, laptops, even if
> we ship them a NDI remote camera.
>
> We are looking at various solutions: mimoLive, Wirecast, Tricaster, OBS,
> and others.
>
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a solution like this?
>
> Or do you have a reseller you could point me to?
>
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Thursday, April 16, 2020
[Avid-L2] Off-Topic: Multi-camera NDI recording for non-local clients?
With everyone at my company under "stay at home" orders, as well as our clients, we have been looking into ways to continue our video production with various video conference tools. Some good stuff, some not so great. Zoom, Webex, BlueJeans, Skype, etc, etc.
--
Last week, using a vendor's solution, we were able to produce a short series of informational videos with 3 featured speakers and slides from a PowerPoint deck. The speakers and the production crew viewers watched from laptops and did screen recordings at 2 separate locations: one recorded the switched program, the other recorded full screen video of the speakers. Took it into Premiere for post and things went pretty well.
BUT, this was a bit of a slow and clunky workflow.
Ideally, we'd run everything through a setup like a NewTek Tricaster where we could record each camera input as well as the final switched source simultaneously. Camera feeds would come in via an NDI or OBS video feed over the internet from any device - smartphone, desktop, laptop or remote camera.
The problem we have encountered so far has been that 95% of the NDI stuff we've reviewed has been for closed network IP video - the cameras and the software/hardware are all supposed to be on the same local network. Churches, hospitals, concerts and live events for streaming, and so on.
What my company really need is a recording (or live switching) solution that allows my "control room" to be here in Chicago with camera feeds coming in from multiple remote sources - smartphones, laptops, even if we ship them a NDI remote camera.
We are looking at various solutions: mimoLive, Wirecast, Tricaster, OBS, and others.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a solution like this?
Or do you have a reseller you could point me to?
Thanks!!
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Re: [Avid-L2] Looking for new hard drive catalog software
Thanks John. I'll check it out.
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On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:52 AM John Heiser <jpheiser@gmail.com> wrote:
Disk Catalog Maker has worked well for me. https://diskcatalogmaker.com/
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On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:48 PM David Baud <david.baud@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Tod… no problem, I'll read about it when I get my Inside Tips😉I have not had the problem lately, but sometimes the updated NeoFinder library is not available right away for the others access.david at kosmos-productions.comDavid BaudColorist & Finishing EditorOn Apr 2, 2020, at 10:28, hoplist <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:Mind if I pilfer that tip for twitter? ;)Or write it up for Larry Jordan, Inside Tips? I use the same trick for some other apps but did not think to use for Neofinder. Should work great since Neofinder stores catalogs as distinct files. Little chance of "conflicting copy" which happens to me periodically with other apps if I forget to actively save and close before moving to another location.Tod
On Apr 1, 2020, at 8:03 PM, David Baud <david.baud@gmail.com> wrote:I have used Neofinder for a long time as well and keep my database on Dropbox. The advantage is that your local Dropbox is always updated in the background, but you still have the benefit from local access.david at kosmos-productions.comDavid BaudColorist & Finishing EditorOn Apr 1, 2020, at 17:56, Tim McLaughlin <mcltim.156@gmail.com> wrote:Have and use NeoFinder and love it, but...It only works great on a closed network where you access the server-based database over the office intranet.And now we're all working from home, so connecting to the database via VPN sucks - it is super-slow. Glacially slow.If anyone has a recommendation for a cross-platform, web-accessible hard drive catalog, please let me know.Thanks!--
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Re: [Avid-L2] Animated PNGs?
Interesting. I think that the ability to read this stuff as an animation with alpha will depend on versions of OSs and versions of apps. I can use my daughter's file whereas she (older OS) cannot. We are investigating.
With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660
On Thursday, 16 April 2020, 06:27:00 BST, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:
In a few of the Abelcine Classes I took this was mentioned as a front end to FFMpeg. Perhaps it is the FFMpeg for the rest of us. Certainly something to tinker with when I finish my current batch of deliverables.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 08:02 AM, Pat Horridge wrote:
Focused on simplicity, ff·Works brings a fresh approach to using FFmpeg, to create ultra high quality movies without the need to write any single command- line ...
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 08:02 AM, Pat Horridge wrote:
That is true. Nut its rare nowadays to be able to separate the pure craft of editing from the technical tasks surrounding it.
It pretty much universal that editor have to be able to perform support tasks and that includes manipulating media to make it manageable outside the edit suite.
I would say that FFMPEG, as wonderful as it is ,is a bit above and beyond for many editors but that doesn't lesser their abilities.
Pat Horridge
Re: Now OT: Memories - was Re: [Avid-L2] Avid-L2 Policies
OMG. Back under the sofa!
With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660
On Thursday, 16 April 2020, 04:17:06 BST, Stephen Priest <spriest@mindspring.com> wrote:
This latest dust-up has me wondering:
Whither Custom Sift?
Whither Flamethrower Timeout?
The Old-Timers will get the reference.
Stephen Priest
CNN Atlanta
(one of the few still going in to the factory)
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Re: [Avid-L2] Animated PNGs?
Yup. We are all twitchy. Let's keep this resource going. I only met a couple of you in person over the years (and one of them has bailed out) but we share so much knowledge. Let's press the reset button. I won't say 'Stay Safe' but I do hope that everyone is OK. How's that?
With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660
On Wednesday, 15 April 2020, 19:49:31 BST, Dennis Degan via groups.io <dennyd1=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
I don't understand all this acrimony. NOTHING will drive me off this list. This noise is petty bickering. I believe it's due to people getting stir-crazy, sitting at home with nothing better to do. Your squabble will not drive me away. I will sit and wait for the children to tire of this and then, go back to their corners. Once, they've finished, we can all get back to the regular light-hearted banter . . . . .
Dennis Degan, Video Editor -Consultant -Knowledge Bank
On Apr 15, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@ContactBen.com> wrote:
I was also someone who donated to help this list migrate.
Please take OT discussions off-list. Thanks.
<If you could... that'd be great.jpg>
Cheers everyone,
On Apr 15, 2020, at 12:11 PM, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Christopher. Not that anyone will miss me, but until the moderators do something about Bouke's unacceptable incitements, attacks, and rudeness, I will no longer participate here.
Bouke has been a good contributor throughout the years, but recently his contributions have been nothing but foul. His "Who, me?" attempts feigning fairness are transparent. Nor do I enjoy reading his sub-ethical opinions on whose lives are worth a few more months and whose aren't.
I love this list. Please, moderators, don't let one person drag it into the sewer.
David
On Apr 15, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Christopher <avid@digitalbuddy.co.uk> wrote:I've been on the Avid-L2 for as long as it's been around, and I've learned so much from the valuable contributions made here, but I've had enough of this.Cheerio, good luck, and stay safe!Chris PitbladdoOn 15 Apr 2020, at 17:55, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:Oh patty, you did read my original post and grasped 'something'?Again, go away, you are boring / insulting / stupid.On 15 Apr 2020, at 18:51, Pat Horridge <pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:Off Topic.Not everyone gets poorer during times like this. Amazon owner Jeff Bezos is $24billion better off.Maybe some of the mega rich could help at this time rather than toss aside the old and vunerable.Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos grows fortune by $24bn amid coronavirus pandemicPat HorridgeFrom: Avid-L2@groups.io <Avid-L2@groups.io> on behalf of bouke via groups.io <bouke=editb.nl@groups.io>
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Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Animated PNGs?Hey Roger,We are old friends, I have no beef with you.You did not start this madness, I did.(For a reason that no-one seems to want to understand.)You all stay safe in a world where you don't have an income but 0.2 % of the people that were supposed to die get another few months.(Luckily this comes cheap, so, no impact at all on the rest of your life!)Oh dear, what did I start? I agree that editing is a craft, and I miss the days of cutting on film (so, yes, I'm an old fart) but I took to Avid enthusiastically back in 1992. As a film editor I didn't mix the sound, create the graphics or grade the picture. Once I moved away from offline editing and Avid got to a point where we could get away with finishing on a computer, I drifted into corporate edits and had to learn to finish shows by myself and learn Photoshop and After Effects and eventually how to author DVDs with menus (good fun). Since then I've got my head round Resolve and FCPX and a bunch of other stuff, so yes, we need a varied skillset. Now, I teach at a university so I hve to (and enjoy) trying to keep up with new formats and delivery requirements. Hence my original question. I seem to have found a flavour of animated PNG that resists the embrace of most of the programs I use. If I HAD to incorporate it in an Avid edit, I'd follow Bouke's suggestions. But I don't so I will keep an eye on updates and work on finishing the update to my Avid book. Once the bike club magazine is put to bed, of course. Oh - another skill - page layout and delivery for print. Stay safe, all.With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660On Wednesday, 15 April 2020, 16:28:03 BST, Pat Horridge <pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:Interestingly David I don't consider myself an editor. I can edit. I'm an Avid certified instructor and have been an ACSR
I know a lot of technical stuff even FFMPEG and spend my time helping and supporting editors.
They have the craft skills and the eye.
As I said the best editors I know have little practical or technical skills. I think it often comes down to specialism.
The better an editor is the more people around them shield them from tasks that take them away from the actual task of cutting a show.
The less of the technical stuff they do the less they learn and the less they can do.
Pat Horridge
From: Avid-L2@groups.io <Avid-L2@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Dodson via groups.io
Sent: 15 April 2020 16:23
To: Avid-L2@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Animated PNGs?I've edited nearly twenty feature films. Budgets ranging from one million to 65 million. The movies have been on thousands of screens around the world.
But I couldn't do FFMPEG if my life depended on it (actually, I probably could, but I can't now). But I think I'm an editor.
The point is, editing is storytelling. It's writing. And it's a technical craft. The more you know about all of it, the easier your life will be
BUT… having deep technical knowledge does NOT make you a great editor. I know amazing editors/storytellers who have workable knowledge of their NLE, but couldn't tell you the difference between USB2 and USB-C. But they're masters.
Why in the world would someone declare that a particular piece of semi-arcane tech skill is defining of what makes an editor?
On Apr 15, 2020, at 8:17 AM, Pat Horridge <pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:
Be interesting to know how many (or few) editors are confident with tools like FFMPEG
Its implied that not being so makes you not an editor.
I'd not agree with that. Some of the best editors I've worked with struggled to turn on their Avid.
But their eye and editing skills ensued they sat in the editor seat and not me (who could turn on their Avid plus re-install the hardware and software)
Editing is a craft skill that needs other around them to handle the technical aspects. Know them both and you are blessed.
That's why most Post houses have technical operators, ingest department, file delivery departments and the like.
So editors can get on with the jo of editing.
Pat Horridge
From: Avid-L2@groups.io <Avid-L2@groups.io> On Behalf Of bouke via groups.io
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To: Avid-L2@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Animated PNGs?Hi Karl, answers inline.
On 15 Apr 2020, at 16:39, Karl Knowles <tech@knowlesvideo.com> wrote:
An alternate opinion.
Always appreciated!
Editing is the art of constructing a finished piece from (in our field) unique individual elements of visual imagery and sound.Agreed, but...
File conversion is not editing.No, but get real, we're responsible for getting the stuff workable in 99.9% of the cases.
File conversion is no different from film or tape format conversions performed by a technician in a lab or tape room - which in no way, shape, form or interpretation of the term is editing.Agreed, but, what is your point? 'Someone' has to do it, if there is no other, it's 'our' job.
Discussion of editing is very rare on this forum. Style and technique are hardly ever mentioned.My beef, the IMPACT is not discussed. Remember Rodney King? Just one IO, no more editing, and that resulted in deaths.
Same is going on right now.
I've observed most discussion here centers on finding a solution to a technical problem. Think "my hot splicer splices aren't holding" or "the pilot-tone on his Nagra was off" but in today's terms.I'm missing your frustration here, please elaborate. What I do get is that you are an old fart, older than I am.
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