Saturday, April 19, 2014

Re: [Avid-L2] Need ISIS experience...recommendations?

 

Mike, I'm not in NY. What you describe is not necessarily a bad idea but before you decide to work for low or no pay, here's something to consider. From the editor's perspective, straight ISIS acts pretty much like any of the previous Avid Unity products and a lot like other shared storage. Unless you're doing administration or maintenance, there's not much to learn. ISIS/Interplay has more for the editor / assistant editor to learn so trading some of your time for hands on experience might make more sense. Again, the people who really need to learn Interplay are the administrators and maintenance people. You know what your time is worth. Make sure you're getting a decent value before you trade it. Good luck. --J.B.

---- mike@30fps.net wrote:
> The facility I work at has a Terrablock backbone to support edit and graphic workstations. I would like to expand my experience into working with ISIS infrastructure. Can anyone recommend / know of a facility in NY that may be looking for a part-time or overnight media manager, assistant editor, or any other position that would contain ISIS experience. Looking for experience more than a rate so low-pay is not an issue.
>
> I can be reached offlist at mrickard72(@)gmail.com
>
> TIA
> -Mike
> mrickard.info

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[Avid-L2] Need ISIS experience...recommendations?

 

The facility I work at has a Terrablock backbone to support edit and graphic workstations. I would like to expand my experience into working with ISIS infrastructure. Can anyone recommend / know of a facility in NY that may be looking for a part-time or overnight media manager, assistant editor, or any other position that would contain ISIS experience. Looking for experience more than a rate so low-pay is not an issue.


I can be reached offlist at mrickard72(@)gmail.com
TIA
-Mike 
mrickard.info

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[Avid-L2] Re: Realistic Offloading of SXS cards in the field time and gear req

 

Or these guys:


<<http://1beyond.com/product-categories/on-set-dailies-data-wrangling-systems-color-correction-solutions>>

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Re: [Avid-L2] My take on NAB

 


But isn't that one of the issues, Jeff?
They never did a Baby ISIS, even thouh I think a lot of those products could be of interest to way more people if they were available in a smaller form, for a smaller price.

On 18 apr. 2014, at 18:11, Jeff Sengpiehl <jeff@chainsawedit.com> wrote:

these products aren't for you, Steve-  you're not in this space.    They're for me,  and it's what is being looked it for the future of Reality post. 

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

You might find interesting resource space (resourcespace.com) an open source Digital Asset Manager originally created for images that now can handle video as well.
The easiest way to install it is on a Ubuntu Linux Box.
This option is not plug and play, you will need to customize it to you're needs, but it's very powerful.

El abr 19, 2014 8:36 a.m., "Mike Drew" <mdrew@thepostlounge.com> escribió:
 

Plus 1 for Crush FTP, great product, great price and great support. Ben at Crush FTP is one of the best support people out there.


Mike

 

We are using Crush FTP.. pretty cheap, from a couple of hundred dollars up depending on a few options. Very customisable All GUI so easy to set up.. Works on anything Win/Mac/linux .. We have ours on an ex avid 8400.. The benefits are we control it completely and we can have as much storage as we like for no more money

 

NIge

 

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Je ff Hedberg
Sent: 18 April 2014 19:49
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

 

Nige,

Just out of curiosity what FTP server setup are you using? Are you using something like the standard ftp services within linux/mac? Or are you using one of the packages that I've seen that try to take a lot of the separate services and tie them in to one?

 

We use cloud based for clients - but I still like FTP for SOME transfers. 

 

(I am just running proftpd on a linux box with a GUI to make my life a little easier)

 

If it's more appropriate off-list I'm happy to discuss there.

 

 

Jeff
------------------
Jeff Hedberg

 

Director of Operations
Union Editorial
575 Broadway,6th floor
New York, NY 10012

 

On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Nigel Gourley <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk> wrote:



< span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";"> 

I guess it depends on the type of work you do.

 

I'm not ever expecting any more the a dozen people to watch links and I have a 100M pipe so streaming makes virtually no impact on that.  What does make an impact is cost of storage with cloud solutions so I have lots of bandwidth and lots of storage which means I've already paid for a lot of what the cloud solution are offering. The other thing that we have found with cloud solutions is we aren't in charge of software upgrades so randomly things change which I can't schedule or control which isn't ideal for me.

< span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> 

I run our own FTP server and that works a dream and  is probably a 20th of the cost of an online equivalent given the use we give it. There is a plethora of FTP server solutions available for locally installed servers but nothing I can find that is similar for online viewing…

 

I guess horses for courses and all that..

 

NIge

 

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Sengpiehl
Sent: 18 April 2014 17:13
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

 

A cloud service means you don't have to say,  "Sorry,  somebody sent a link to the press, and since everyone in the world is using our streaming server and internet connectivity, we can't get your show delivered to  G4 TV.

 

JDS

 

 Jeff Sengpiehl  | Chief Engineer

Chainsaw, Inc.

 Phone 323  - 785  -  1550 

 Direct   323 -  328  -  1608

 

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On Apr 18, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Nigel Gourley <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk> wrote:




 

Ah but it is a cloud service basically..

 

NIge

 

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of He idi Perkins
Sent: 18 April 2014 12:20
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

 

Try  takeoff  http://www.takeoffvideo.com

I have used it and really like it, and the price seems reasonable.

 

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On Apr 18, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Nigel Gourley <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk> wrote:





 

Hi there

 

We'd like to have an online viewing approval site similar to lots of the online offerings but hosted on a local PC . Now internet speeds are so fast there is actually very little need for this to be a cloud service for us and in fact the cloud services are more expensive and slower than we could do it locally. But while there are lots of relatively cheap and very comprehensive FTP server products to host locally there seem to be no similar things for approval sites. Anyone found anything and using it successfully.

 

Thanks

 

Nige

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

Plus 1 for Crush FTP, great product, great price and great support. Ben at Crush FTP is one of the best support people out there.


Mike

 

We are using Crush FTP.. pretty cheap, from a couple of hundred dollars up depending on a few options. Very customisable All GUI so easy to set up.. Works on anything Win/Mac/linux .. We have ours on an ex avid 8400.. The benefits are we control it completely and we can have as much storage as we like for no more money

 

NIge

 

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Je ff Hedberg
Sent: 18 April 2014 19:49
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

 

Nige,

Just out of curiosity what FTP server setup are you using? Are you using something like the standard ftp services within linux/mac? Or are you using one of the packages that I've seen that try to take a lot of the separate services and tie them in to one?

 

We use cloud based for clients - but I still like FTP for SOME transfers. 

 

(I am just running proftpd on a linux box with a GUI to make my life a little easier)

 

If it's more appropriate off-list I'm happy to discuss there.

 

 

Jeff
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Jeff Hedberg

 

Director of Operations
Union Editorial
575 Broadway,6th floor
New York, NY 10012

 

On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Nigel Gourley <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk> wrote:



< span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";"> 

I guess it depends on the type of work you do.

 

I’m not ever expecting any more the a dozen people to watch links and I have a 100M pipe so streaming makes virtually no impact on that.  What does make an impact is cost of storage with cloud solutions so I have lots of bandwidth and lots of storage which means I’ve already paid for a lot of what the cloud solution are offering. The other thing that we have found with cloud solutions is we aren’t in charge of software upgrades so randomly things change which I can’t schedule or control which isn’t ideal for me.

< span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> 

I run our own FTP server and that works a dream and  is probably a 20th of the cost of an online equivalent given the use we give it. There is a plethora of FTP server solutions available for locally installed servers but nothing I can find that is similar for online viewing…

 

I guess horses for courses and all that..

 

NIge

 

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Sengpiehl
Sent: 18 April 2014 17:13
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

 

A cloud service means you don’t have to say,  “Sorry,  somebody sent a link to the press, and since everyone in the world is using our streaming server and internet connectivity, we can’t get your show delivered to  G4 TV.

 

JDS

 

 Jeff Sengpiehl  | Chief Engineer

Chainsaw, Inc.

 Phone 323  - 785  -  1550 

 Direct   323 -  328  -  1608

 

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On Apr 18, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Nigel Gourley <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk> wrote:




 

Ah but it is a cloud service basically..

 

NIge

 

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of He idi Perkins
Sent: 18 April 2014 12:20
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

 

Try  takeoff  http://www.takeoffvideo.com

I have used it and really like it, and the price seems reasonable.

 

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On Apr 18, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Nigel Gourley <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk> wrote:





 

Hi there

 

We’d like to have an online viewing approval site similar to lots of the online offerings but hosted on a local PC . Now internet speeds are so fast there is actually very little need for this to be a cloud service for us and in fact the cloud services are more expensive and slower than we could do it locally. But while there are lots of relatively cheap and very comprehensive FTP server products to host locally there seem to be no similar things for approval sites. Anyone found anything and using it successfully.

 

Thanks

 

Nige

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

We are using Crush FTP.. pretty cheap, from a couple of hundred dollars up depending on a few options. Very customisable All GUI so easy to set up.. Works on anything Win/Mac/linux .. We have ours on an ex avid 8400.. The benefits are we control it completely and we can have as much storage as we like for no more money

 

NIge

 

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Hedberg
Sent: 18 April 2014 19:49
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

 

Nige,

Just out of curiosity what FTP server setup are you using? Are you using something like the standard ftp services within linux/mac? Or are you using one of the packages that I've seen that try to take a lot of the separate services and tie them in to one?

 

We use cloud based for clients - but I still like FTP for SOME transfers. 

 

(I am just running proftpd on a linux box with a GUI to make my life a little easier)

 

If it's more appropriate off-list I'm happy to discuss there.

 

 

Jeff
------------------
Jeff Hedberg

 

Director of Operations
Union Editorial
575 Broadway,6th floor
New York, NY 10012

 

On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Nigel Gourley <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk> wrote:



 

I guess it depends on the type of work you do.

 

I’m not ever expecting any more the a dozen people to watch links and I have a 100M pipe so streaming makes virtually no impact on that.  What does make an impact is cost of storage with cloud solutions so I have lots of bandwidth and lots of storage which means I’ve already paid for a lot of what the cloud solution are offering. The other thing that we have found with cloud solutions is we aren’t in charge of software upgrades so randomly things change which I can’t schedule or control which isn’t ideal for me.

 

I run our own FTP server and that works a dream and  is probably a 20th of the cost of an online equivalent given the use we give it. There is a plethora of FTP server solutions available for locally installed servers but nothing I can find that is similar for online viewing…

 

I guess horses for courses and all that..

 

NIge

 

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Sengpiehl
Sent: 18 April 2014 17:13
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

 

A cloud service means you don’t have to say,  “Sorry,  somebody sent a link to the press, and since everyone in the world is using our streaming server and internet connectivity, we can’t get your show delivered to  G4 TV.

 

JDS

 

 Jeff Sengpiehl  | Chief Engineer

Chainsaw, Inc.

 Phone 323  - 785  -  1550 

 Direct   323 -  328  -  1608

 

Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail, 

it was sent on recycled bytes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Apr 18, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Nigel Gourley <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk> wrote:




 

Ah but it is a cloud service basically..

 

NIge

 

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Heidi Perkins
Sent: 18 April 2014 12:20
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT - Online viewing Services on Local PC

 

 

Try  takeoff  http://www.takeoffvideo.com

I have used it and really like it, and the price seems reasonable.

 

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Liberty, Maine

 

On Apr 18, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Nigel Gourley <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk> wrote:





 

Hi there

 

We’d like to have an online viewing approval site similar to lots of the online offerings but hosted on a local PC . Now internet speeds are so fast there is actually very little need for this to be a cloud service for us and in fact the cloud services are more expensive and slower than we could do it locally. But while there are lots of relatively cheap and very comprehensive FTP server products to host locally there seem to be no similar things for approval sites. Anyone found anything and using it successfully.

 

Thanks

 

Nige

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Avid-L2] Re: Realistic Offloading of SXS cards in the field time and gear req

 

Check out the Nexto DI products

http://www.nextodi.com/product/en_nvs2501.html

Lots of advantages to a standalone unit for fast reliable in the field transfers.
Dangling hard drives off laptops while on the run... less great.


Pat from his mobile.

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Friday, April 18, 2014

Re: [Avid-L2] Realistic Offloading of SXS cards in the field time and gear requirement?

+1 on ShotputPro.

On Apr 18, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Andi Meek <kwikpasta@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Shotput pro is a good choice for offloading. It will also give you a printable report verifying the copy and will offload multiple cards at once.
> The Sony SxS card readers are limited to USB3 i think but Sonnet make faster card readers that attach by PCIe and they also do a thunderbolt adapter too.
>
> http://www.sonnettech.com/product/mediareaders/index.html
> http://www.imagineproducts.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=5
>
> Andi
>
>
>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> From: Ben@ContactBen.com
> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 16:01:14 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Realistic Offloading of SXS cards in the field time and gear requirement?
>
>
>
>
>
> Dang it John…
> Now you've got ME interested in simul-backups! ;)
> It seems there are some helpful links to blogs and such when you scroll down:
> http://nofilmschool.com/2012/05/backing-up-footage-toy-story-2/
>
> Cheers,
> B
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Doing a little more research in this lovely tapeless world. Anybody got some practical advice and experience in how to best offload a Sony EX camera in the field when shooting 24/7. I'm figuring the 64 gig cards that record 200 minutes a pop. To record continuous for 14 to 21 days I figure that would need at least a days worth of SxS cards per camera. How much time does it take to properly offload a 64 gig SxS card in the field. I would think it advisable to offload to two drives preferably at the same time. If you had 9 cameras going does it require 9 stations or can a station handle multiple offloads. As I type this that would require multiple SxS readers per station which I assume is doable. I can see comparing tape to drives there is a media savings but that doesn't include the equipment and man power to be handling all the offloading and protection copies etc.... Of course down the line for archive and network delivery of source material tape has an advantage over the need to LTO all the files.
>
> I recall that with an adapter there was a way to use cheaper cards than the SxS cards in the EX camera that would handle everything but overcranked footage. Is that approach viable in a run and gun setting?
>
> John Moore
> Barking Trout Productions
> Studio City, CA
> bigfish@pacbell.net
>
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>
>
>

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RE: [Avid-L2] Realistic Offloading of SXS cards in the field time and gear requirement?

 

Shotput pro is a good choice for offloading.  It will also give you a printable report verifying the copy and will offload multiple cards at once.
The Sony SxS card readers are limited to USB3 i think but Sonnet make faster card readers that attach by PCIe and they also do a thunderbolt adapter too.

http://www.sonnettech.com/product/mediareaders/index.html
http://www.imagineproducts.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=5

Andi




To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
From: Ben@ContactBen.com
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 16:01:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Realistic Offloading of SXS cards in the field time and gear requirement?

 




Dang it John…
Now you've got ME interested in simul-backups! ;)
It seems there are some helpful links to blogs and such when you scroll down:

Cheers,
B


On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

 

Doing a little more research in this lovely tapeless world.  Anybody got some practical advice and experience in how to best offload a Sony EX camera in the field when shooting 24/7.  I'm figuring the 64 gig cards that record 200 minutes a pop.  To record continuous for 14 to 21 days I figure that would need at least a days worth of SxS cards per camera.  How much time does it take to properly offload a 64 gig SxS card in the field.  I would think it advisable to offload to two drives preferably at the same time.  If you had 9 cameras going does it require 9 stations or can a station handle multiple offloads.  As I type this that would require multiple SxS readers per station which I assume is doable.  I can see comparing tape to drives there is a media savings but that doesn't include the equipment and man power to be handling all the offloading and protection copies etc....  Of course down the line for archive and network delivery of source material tape has an advantage over the need to LTO all the files. 

I recall that with an adapter there was a way to use cheaper cards than the SxS cards in the EX camera that would handle everything but overcranked footage.  Is that approach viable in a run and gun setting?
 
John Moore
Barking Trout Productions
Studio City, CA
bigfish@pacbell.net

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