Thursday, August 25, 2022

Re: [Avid-L2] Old Media Drives

Hi Jo --

I got sidetracked by a number of other projects, but I will definitely update and inform the group once I find out which was the best solution --

Thanks again!   :-)

-- Sol




On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 08:49:46 AM EDT, Jo's Mailinglists <lists@filter-media.net> wrote:


Hi Sol,


Just a follow-up: how did it turn out for you? Please feel free to share!


Best


Jo



Jochen "Jo" Hermann
filter Media Postproduction
Salzburg, Austria

On 18. Aug 2022, at 01:41, Sol Fischler via groups.io <sol.fischler=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thanks Jo!
It does look like ethernet is going to be the way to go -- if that doesn't work, I'll try to install an additional drive in the desktop and see if that works.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and feedback!  I'll be able to get to this in the next month or so, and I'll keep everyone informed!

Then we'll talk about ancient Avid donations --   :-)

-- Sol




On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 05:55:49 PM EDT, Jo's Mailinglists <lists@filter-media.net> wrote:


Sol,


by my guess - and please others prove me wrong - the easiest would be to utilise the 10Base-T Ethernet.

Since time is kinda not crucial here, additional extensions are only and rarely available:

10Base-T be it.

Internal IDE/ATA runs on 5 MBit/sec, SCSI way ore - but you need this bus to connect the sources.

Challenge is: how to connect MacOs 9.x to the new world?

Considered you have a working Ethernet Card 10Base-T (RJ45) you can hook it up directly or via any capable hub/switch to the actual world.

Remember: there is no SMB file sharing, only Apple File Protocol (AFP) will work.
-> AFP is depreciated in the latest version (Montery) -> make sure your target can run AFP (System Preferences/Sharin/Options)

set network adapter in MacOS 9.x accordingly your SOHO.

reboot PowerMac 3G Desktop and destination (just for the heck of it)

try to connect to the Host.

If this fails: try any MacOS9 current ftp and transfer that way

hth


Best

Jo


Jochen "Jo" Hermann
filter Media Postproduction
Salzburg, Austria

On 12. Aug 2022, at 14:42, Sol Fischler via groups.io <sol.fischler=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi All —

I still have my old 1999 Avid XL system, running on a PowerPC G3 — pre-USB, pre-firewire. 

I still have the SCSI docks & drives that went along with this system.  I'd like to save a lot of the media that's still on the drives before I finally get rid of the system -- family stuff, etc. 

I also have a mid-2010 Mac Pro desktop running OS 10.9.5, and a MacBook Pro running OS 10.15.7.

My question: is there any way either to connect this Mac to a more modern Mac (ethernet to ethernet…?) and access the media that way, or are there SCSI cards that would work in the Mac Pro and allow me to connect the drives directly? 

Some of the drives are striped pairs, and some might not be…  I don't remember if the MediaDock is striped pairs or not.

…or is there any other way at all to get the media off the drives?

Thanks in advance!

-- Sol




Re: [Avid-L2] Old Media Drives

Hi Sol,


Just a follow-up: how did it turn out for you? Please feel free to share!


Best


Jo



Jochen "Jo" Hermann
filter Media Postproduction
Salzburg, Austria

On 18. Aug 2022, at 01:41, Sol Fischler via groups.io <sol.fischler=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thanks Jo!
It does look like ethernet is going to be the way to go -- if that doesn't work, I'll try to install an additional drive in the desktop and see if that works.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and feedback!  I'll be able to get to this in the next month or so, and I'll keep everyone informed!

Then we'll talk about ancient Avid donations --   :-)

-- Sol




On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 05:55:49 PM EDT, Jo's Mailinglists <lists@filter-media.net> wrote:


Sol,


by my guess - and please others prove me wrong - the easiest would be to utilise the 10Base-T Ethernet.

Since time is kinda not crucial here, additional extensions are only and rarely available:

10Base-T be it.

Internal IDE/ATA runs on 5 MBit/sec, SCSI way ore - but you need this bus to connect the sources.

Challenge is: how to connect MacOs 9.x to the new world?

Considered you have a working Ethernet Card 10Base-T (RJ45) you can hook it up directly or via any capable hub/switch to the actual world.

Remember: there is no SMB file sharing, only Apple File Protocol (AFP) will work.
-> AFP is depreciated in the latest version (Montery) -> make sure your target can run AFP (System Preferences/Sharin/Options)

set network adapter in MacOS 9.x accordingly your SOHO.

reboot PowerMac 3G Desktop and destination (just for the heck of it)

try to connect to the Host.

If this fails: try any MacOS9 current ftp and transfer that way

hth


Best

Jo


Jochen "Jo" Hermann
filter Media Postproduction
Salzburg, Austria

On 12. Aug 2022, at 14:42, Sol Fischler via groups.io <sol.fischler=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi All —

I still have my old 1999 Avid XL system, running on a PowerPC G3 — pre-USB, pre-firewire. 

I still have the SCSI docks & drives that went along with this system.  I'd like to save a lot of the media that's still on the drives before I finally get rid of the system -- family stuff, etc. 

I also have a mid-2010 Mac Pro desktop running OS 10.9.5, and a MacBook Pro running OS 10.15.7.

My question: is there any way either to connect this Mac to a more modern Mac (ethernet to ethernet…?) and access the media that way, or are there SCSI cards that would work in the Mac Pro and allow me to connect the drives directly? 

Some of the drives are striped pairs, and some might not be…  I don't remember if the MediaDock is striped pairs or not.

…or is there any other way at all to get the media off the drives?

Thanks in advance!

-- Sol