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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: In search of 40% neutral grey not 50 shades of grey?

 


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On 6 Oct, 2013, at 11:33 am, <tcurren@aol.com> wrote:

 

Are you referring to the defunct eCinema  



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Ok 

Ecinema cinepaint.

Mike

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: In search of 40% neutral grey not 50 shades of grey?

 

They quoted me a Dpx monitor for 40k last week so I think they still around.... 

Mike

On 6 Oct, 2013, at 11:33 am, <tcurren@aol.com> wrote:

 

Are you referring to the defunct eCinema  



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Ok 

Ecinema cinepaint.

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RE: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: In search of 40% neutral grey not 50 shades of grey?

 

Are you referring to the defunct eCinema  



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Ok 

Ecinema cinepaint.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: In search of 40% neutral grey not 50 shades of grey?

 

Ok 

Ecinema cinepaint.

Mike

On 6 Oct, 2013, at 2:53 am, <blafarm@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

>Ralph Lauren studio grey. So close to smpte it's fine.


Thanks for that suggestion.  Unfortunately, that color seems to have been discontinued:


http://www.ralphlaurenhome.com/products/paint/lifestyle_colors/items.aspx?haid=120 



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Ralph Lauren studio grey. So close to smpte it's fine.

On 5 Oct, 2013, at 5:54 am, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:

 

Oh I know but this is actually fun. Moving my antenna 30 ft. brought in local channel 2 and after a meeting with Tektronix yesterday I learned from their engineer Steven Holmes he's seen 5 feet make all the difference in antenna placement.

Now today I learned at the paint shop that adding black paint to white paint actually makes it go blue. I didn't know that and am applying video additive color approaches to the subtractive color of print, or in this case paint.

I was able to borrow a Porta Pak Chip chart and used the 6th chip from the top left, which is one chip to the right of middle, to sample for color mix. The result included a bit of Yellow and Red oxide for the 40%ish chip. A darker chip two to the left was similar but it had Yellow oxide and regular Red in it's mixture. It appears that paint color science differs from the video world. They couldn't convince me that adding black paint to white paint went blue at first but then I had to consider they are paint professionals in north Hollywood and work with the studios a lot.

I'd love to learn more about the print vs. video color approaches especially how black drops in white go blue. Anybody got some experience with that?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Degan <DennyD1@...> wrote:
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> On Oct 4, 2013, at 2:30 PM, John Moore wrote:
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> > I'll be painting my edit room at home and I want to get close to smpte spec of 40% neutral grey. I've learned from Terry that it's best to start with white paint and add drops of black to achieve the proper shade. Apparently most grey paint premixed has some blue in it. My contractor looked at my samples and said to put the desired color on a piece of cardboard and they could computer match it. It got me thinking that it would be better to get a real chip chart, that I assume has 40% or close to it section and use that for the computer match. I asked if the matching would result in a mixture of black and white paint and not some other tints/pigments and was told yes. Is anybody familiar with the new breed of paint computer matching and if it can be specified to make the color with only white and black pigment? I know I'm not working for NASA but I would like to make an educated stab at getting close. Any other suggestions are appreciated.
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> I say:
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> I hope you'll appreciate this: Don't worry so much. Relax. Paint on the walls won't affect your editing that much. If you really need to do this, do what your contractor suggested and be done with it. Life's too short.
>
> Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
> NBC Today Show, New York
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Re: [Avid-L2] Title Too Default To Geneva - Maddening

 

The old Steve Hullfish standby: Does it do it with another or new user setting?


Steve

On Oct 5, 2013, at 3:36 PM, David Dodson <davidadodson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

 


I've set up a bunch of titles that I'm going to edit in the timeline. I used one long title clip then chopped it up. I set the font to Helvetica CY. But when I go into the individual clips to edit them, when I highlight the text to change it, it immediately reverts back to Geneva -- and a larger font -- even though the title is already sitting there in Helvetica CY!

This is driving me bat sh-t insane. I've set all the templates to Helvetica CY. And I can't find anything in the Settings that would allow me to nullify Geneva as some sort of default font.

Does anyone know why this might be happening, and what I can do to keep it from defaulting back to Geneva merely when I highlight the Helvetica CY text?

Thanks,

DD

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[Avid-L2] How long should ALC take to activate??

Just upgraded Symph 6.5 to MC 7 w/ Symph.

ALC says it's Activating, and has been saying that for several minutes.

When should I get worried?

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Re: [Avid-L2] Title Too Default To Geneva - Maddening

 

Try deleting the font substitute file settings ( same location as mc state )

DQS

On Oct 5, 2013, at 4:36 PM, David Dodson <davidadodson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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> I've set up a bunch of titles that I'm going to edit in the timeline. I used one long title clip then chopped it up. I set the font to Helvetica CY. But when I go into the individual clips to edit them, when I highlight the text to change it, it immediately reverts back to Geneva -- and a larger font -- even though the title is already sitting there in Helvetica CY!
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> This is driving me bat sh-t insane. I've set all the templates to Helvetica CY. And I can't find anything in the Settings that would allow me to nullify Geneva as some sort of default font.
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> Does anyone know why this might be happening, and what I can do to keep it from defaulting back to Geneva merely when I highlight the Helvetica CY text?
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> Thanks,
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> DD
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Re: [Avid-L2] RE: Title Too Default To Geneva - Maddening

 


Hilighting the existing text does not change it. But the the second you type in anything new, either in a highlighted block, or simply by placing the cursor anywhere inside the existing text, the new text is Geneva, and not the Helvetica CY that was already there.



On Oct 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, <tcurren@aol.com> wrote:

 

Just highlighting it causes it to change, or actually highlighting and retyping causes it to change? 



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I've set up a bunch of titles that I'm going to edit in the timeline. I used one long title clip then chopped it up. I set the font to Helvetica CY. But when I go into the individual clips to edit them, when I highlight the text to change it, it immediately reverts back to Geneva -- and a larger font -- even though the title is already sitting there in Helvetica CY!

This is driving me bat sh-t insane. I've set all the templates to Helvetica CY. And I can't find anything in the Settings that would allow me to nullify Geneva as some sort of default font.

Does anyone know why this might be happening, and what I can do to keep it from defaulting back to Geneva merely when I highlight the Helvetica CY text?

Thanks,

DD


David Dodson
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[Avid-L2] RE: Title Too Default To Geneva - Maddening

 

Just highlighting it causes it to change, or actually highlighting and retyping causes it to change? 



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <avid-l2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I've set up a bunch of titles that I'm going to edit in the timeline. I used one long title clip then chopped it up. I set the font to Helvetica CY. But when I go into the individual clips to edit them, when I highlight the text to change it, it immediately reverts back to Geneva -- and a larger font -- even though the title is already sitting there in Helvetica CY!

This is driving me bat sh-t insane. I've set all the templates to Helvetica CY. And I can't find anything in the Settings that would allow me to nullify Geneva as some sort of default font.

Does anyone know why this might be happening, and what I can do to keep it from defaulting back to Geneva merely when I highlight the Helvetica CY text?

Thanks,

DD


David Dodson
davidadodson@...

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Re: [Avid-L2] Title Too Default To Geneva - Maddening

 

That is super irritating.  I'm never sure why it happens when it does, but you could easily set a style (I think that's what it's called) and assign it to a function key.  That's saved me from many a frustrating title tool problem.

GH

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On Oct 5, 2013, at 2:36 PM, David Dodson <davidadodson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

 


I've set up a bunch of titles that I'm going to edit in the timeline. I used one long title clip then chopped it up. I set the font to Helvetica CY. But when I go into the individual clips to edit them, when I highlight the text to change it, it immediately reverts back to Geneva -- and a larger font -- even though the title is already sitting there in Helvetica CY!

This is driving me bat sh-t insane. I've set all the templates to Helvetica CY. And I can't find anything in the Settings that would allow me to nullify Geneva as some sort of default font.

Does anyone know why this might be happening, and what I can do to keep it from defaulting back to Geneva merely when I highlight the Helvetica CY text?

Thanks,

DD

David Dodson
davidadodson@sbcglobal.net

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[Avid-L2] Title Too Default To Geneva - Maddening

 


I've set up a bunch of titles that I'm going to edit in the timeline. I used one long title clip then chopped it up. I set the font to Helvetica CY. But when I go into the individual clips to edit them, when I highlight the text to change it, it immediately reverts back to Geneva -- and a larger font -- even though the title is already sitting there in Helvetica CY!

This is driving me bat sh-t insane. I've set all the templates to Helvetica CY. And I can't find anything in the Settings that would allow me to nullify Geneva as some sort of default font.

Does anyone know why this might be happening, and what I can do to keep it from defaulting back to Geneva merely when I highlight the Helvetica CY text?

Thanks,

DD

David Dodson
davidadodson@sbcglobal.net

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RE: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: In search of 40% neutral grey not 50 shades of grey?

 

>Ralph Lauren studio grey. So close to smpte it's fine.


Thanks for that suggestion.  Unfortunately, that color seems to have been discontinued:


http://www.ralphlaurenhome.com/products/paint/lifestyle_colors/items.aspx?haid=120 



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Ralph Lauren studio grey. So close to smpte it's fine.

On 5 Oct, 2013, at 5:54 am, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:

 

Oh I know but this is actually fun. Moving my antenna 30 ft. brought in local channel 2 and after a meeting with Tektronix yesterday I learned from their engineer Steven Holmes he's seen 5 feet make all the difference in antenna placement.

Now today I learned at the paint shop that adding black paint to white paint actually makes it go blue. I didn't know that and am applying video additive color approaches to the subtractive color of print, or in this case paint.

I was able to borrow a Porta Pak Chip chart and used the 6th chip from the top left, which is one chip to the right of middle, to sample for color mix. The result included a bit of Yellow and Red oxide for the 40%ish chip. A darker chip two to the left was similar but it had Yellow oxide and regular Red in it's mixture. It appears that paint color science differs from the video world. They couldn't convince me that adding black paint to white paint went blue at first but then I had to consider they are paint professionals in north Hollywood and work with the studios a lot.

I'd love to learn more about the print vs. video color approaches especially how black drops in white go blue. Anybody got some experience with that?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Degan <DennyD1@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2013, at 2:30 PM, John Moore wrote:
>
> > I'll be painting my edit room at home and I want to get close to smpte spec of 40% neutral grey. I've learned from Terry that it's best to start with white paint and add drops of black to achieve the proper shade. Apparently most grey paint premixed has some blue in it. My contractor looked at my samples and said to put the desired color on a piece of cardboard and they could computer match it. It got me thinking that it would be better to get a real chip chart, that I assume has 40% or close to it section and use that for the computer match. I asked if the matching would result in a mixture of black and white paint and not some other tints/pigments and was told yes. Is anybody familiar with the new breed of paint computer matching and if it can be specified to make the color with only white and black pigment? I know I'm not working for NASA but I would like to make an educated stab at getting close. Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>
> I say:
>
> I hope you'll appreciate this: Don't worry so much. Relax. Paint on the walls won't affect your editing that much. If you really need to do this, do what your contractor suggested and be done with it. Life's too short.
>
> Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
> NBC Today Show, New York
>

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