Seriously guys, should they peel you a grape, too?
A prompt to the list of links to the plug-ins is pretty fast; except for
Sony, who seems to want your personal biography and possession of your
fist-born child, the links get you right to the current source PDQ. They
would grow as stale as a peach in the back corner of you refrigerator in a
few months if included as-is with the install media, and then the complaint
would be about "...all of those stale plug-ins; why not just links to the
fresh ones..." We all rightly expect that what we get with a new purchase
or upgrade is at least current, and there is no way for Avid to control the
freshness of the manufacturers' releases.
Of course, the prompt to get them and an accompanying notice should appear
during the install, but otherwise, I find the current scheme rather
reasonable.
-----Original Message-----
From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Roger Shufflebottom
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:16 AM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: AMA files... ATTENTION FRANK!
Agreed - current plugins need to be in a folder on the installation media
with a prompt during the installation to install them (I don't mind them not
going in automatically).
On 18 Jun 2011, at 13:12, sknattress wrote:
> I thought I sent this yesterday, so I apologise if its here twice.
>
> I have just taken advantage of the FCP upgrade and have installed a clean
installation of MC5.5 on my macbookpro4,1. OS10.6.7
> Most of my income is from editing on clients avids, (mostly MC4.?) but I
thought it would complement my laptop FCP setup, and bring me up to speed on
MC5.5
>
> I had to load the Sony ama plugins as well as others, to access media
(used with fcp) into MC to "have a play"
>
> The links, (once I had found non-usa ones,) did work, but I found that the
installers downloaded did not recognise MC5.5 on my system and would not
install.
>
> I have acquired and manually installed some of the plugins in a .zip
folder kindly provided by others.
> Why can't avid provide access to the files in a dated zip folder, then we
could manually add them, and also see whether there are any updates.
>
> There needs to be an avid application that looks at your plugins, then
offers you updates or extra ones, especially after a clean install, where
they should be offered as part of it.
> Many new users would not be familiar with the console and
"ama_listplugins"
> The only one installed by default is the quicktime one.
>
> Steve
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "David Colantuoni" <david.colantuoni@...>
wrote:
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> >
> >
> > I can see your point. But Avid does not own most of the plugin's. The
> > point of AMA is that the camera manufacturers would produce these
> > plugin's on their own and update them with new formats or functionality
> > outside of a Media Composer release. By including them with Media
> > Composer, It's possible that we could have older plugin's with a
> > shipping version of Media Composer and a new plug in be released by one
> > of the camera manufacturers. With Sony, Canon, RED, JVC, Ikegami,
> > Panasonic and others coming on board we could get out of sync pretty
> > fast and customers would be confused and frustrated waiting for new
> > version of Media Composer to work with a new camera or format. This was
> > the best choice right now. If it doesn't work, we'll look for a better
> > way.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of David Chmura
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:06 PM
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: AMA files... ATTENTION FRANK!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Not installing the AMA plugins by default is definitely one of the most
> > BONEHEADED things Avid has ever done.
> >
> > This will definitely happen: Oh, I don't like some things about the new
> > Final Cut X, so I bought the $995 Avid crossgrade. Then I tried to
> > import some footage from our new Sony F3 camera and IT DIDN'T WORK. And
> > with typical Avid opacity, it's of course not at all obvious where you
> > need to go to install the plugin, or even that you actually need to
> > install it. So unless you're one of the tiny minority that keeps track
> > of these online forums, AMA is now going to be DOA. And there's no way
> > to use Avid with any of the new cameras without AMA.
> >
> > So, hey, let's just download that $299 Final Cut X. At least we know it
> > will work! This Avid thing just "doesn't work."
> >
> > (Of course, it does work, but only after an hour of snooping around and
> > doing some research-- NOT OK!)
> >
> > On Apr 18, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Roger Shufflebottom wrote:
> >
> > > I got these on Saturday - the Avid link goes to a page with AMA info.
> > There is a tab on the right that actually takes you to the plugins.
> > However, the Panasonic link appears to be broken.
> > >
> > > On 18 Apr 2011, at 04:06, eli wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> All these links appear to go to the same page...(at least it looks
> > the same) and the MXF and P2 links on that page for Mac are all dead.
> > >>
> > >> e
> > >>
> > >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.avid.com/US/products/Avid-Media-Access/plug-ins
> > >>>
> > >>> On 4/17/2011 10:41 PM, eli wrote:
> > >>>> Just downloaded 5.51...installed and activated.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Need to use some AMA files...go to avid.com/ama...click on
> > plug-ins...click the plugin I need (MXF and P2 for mac)...NOTHING ! The
> > PC files seem to be there but nothing for macs. All I get for mac is "
> > PAGE CANNOT BE FOUND"....
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Kinda tough to edit without all the proper software.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Also tried the P2 software...NOTHING!! only for PC which of course
> > does me no good.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyplace else I can go and get these? I have a pile of media I need
> > to look at.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks...eli
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> eli tishberg
> > >>>> live multicam director | editor
> > >>>> directoreditor.tv
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Roger Shufflebottom
> > > +44 (0) 7973 543 660
> > > rogershuff@... <mailto:rogershuff%40yahoo.co.uk>
> > >
> > >
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With best wishes,
Roger Shufflebottom
rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk
+44 7973 543 660
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