Saturday, August 21, 2021

Re: [Avid-L2] Media Composer Perpetual Price Increase

December 2019 perpetual renewal = $299/seat (purchased through VideoGuys)
December 2020 perpetual renewal = $385/seat (purchased through VideoGuys)
December 2021 perpetual renewal = $499/seat (not yet purchased)

The price increase trend is significant.  Can't say the product has improved by the same percentage as the price.

Karl Knowles
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Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?

Standard Subcription does not support shared projects/bins. Other than that… none.


On 21 Aug 2021, at 16:48, Mark Block via groups.io <eatapc=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

 it makes sense for me to switch to a subscription model, but I'm not sure of the ramifications. What's the downside?

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On Aug 21, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Mark Block via groups.io <eatapc=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Marianna:

In 2019 I paid $299; in 2020 and 2021 I paid $399; next year it will be $499. This is a very significant price increase, even when spread out over a year. By comparison, I've been paying Adobe $50/month for the full Creative Cloud suite for the last 8 years -- no price increase. That works out to $600/year, but it's not just for Premiere Pro. It includes numerous apps that I can't live without, personally and professionally. $500 for Media Composer alone is not such a good deal, and seems calculated to push users into a subscription, which I believe is $239/year. Obviously, it makes sense for me to switch to a subscription model, but I'm not sure of the ramifications. What's the downside?

Mark,

Getting users onto the subscription model is exactly what this is intended to do.  License holders have the option of continuing with a perpetual license including support and future upgrades as long as you pay the $400 (soon to be $500) each year.  If you discontinue your yearly payment, the Avid software version you currently have will continue to work (hence the name 'perpetual') and you can keep it forever. It just won't be updated and you will no longer have Avid support.
With the subscription model, you get updates and support for the duration of the paid period (like the perpetual model). But if you end the subscription, not only will you not have updates and support, the software will stop working.
At least that's how I understand it . . . . . 

Dennis Degan, Video Editor -Consultant -Knowledge Bank


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Hi Mark, 
IMHO switching to the subscription just made sense. 
Owen

On Aug 21, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Mark Block via groups.io <eatapc=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Marianna:

In 2019 I paid $299; in 2020 and 2021 I paid $399; next year it will be $499. This is a very significant price increase, even when spread out over a year. By comparison, I've been paying Adobe $50/month for the full Creative Cloud suite for the last 8 years -- no price increase. That works out to $600/year, but it's not just for Premiere Pro. It includes numerous apps that I can't live without, personally and professionally. $500 for Media Composer alone is not such a good deal, and seems calculated to push users into a subscription, which I believe is $239/year. Obviously, it makes sense for me to switch to a subscription model, but I'm not sure of the ramifications. What's the downside?


Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?

Marianna:

In 2019 I paid $299; in 2020 and 2021 I paid $399; next year it will be $499. This is a very significant price increase, even when spread out over a year. By comparison, I've been paying Adobe $50/month for the full Creative Cloud suite for the last 8 years -- no price increase. That works out to $600/year, but it's not just for Premiere Pro. It includes numerous apps that I can't live without, personally and professionally. $500 for Media Composer alone is not such a good deal, and seems calculated to push users into a subscription, which I believe is $239/year. Obviously, it makes sense for me to switch to a subscription model, but I'm not sure of the ramifications. What's the downside?

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Excellent!


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On Aug 21, 2021, at 7:09 AM, Marianna <marianna.montague@avid.com> wrote:

Symphony is an option and you own that so nothing needed on that score.  You can just use the Symphony option with the MC license thru 2022 and if you renew then same applies ðŸ˜Š
 
Marianna Montague
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Avid - Remote
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From: Davaldod <davaldod@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 10:05 AM
To: "Avid-L2@groups.io" <Avid-L2@groups.io>, Marianna Montague <marianna.montague@avid.com>
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Hi, Marianna,
 
Happily, I successfully renewed/re-subscribed yesterday at the $399. It now says my next renewal date is something like November 2022.
 
The only thing I couldn't get a handle on is what happens to things like my Symphony option. Is that handled separately somehow? Or is it "grandfathered" in to the my new, current renewal?
 
Thanks,
 
DD
 
 
 
David Dodson
 
 
 


On Aug 21, 2021, at 7:01 AM, Marianna <marianna.montague@avid.com> wrote:
 
David
 
The renewal goes up $100 only so the renewal plan is $499 for the year after August 30th, 2021.  You can renew before August 30, 2021 for $399 and then we add the 365 days expiration to the end of your existing plan.
 
The new perpetual license will be a higher price as well but for net new users buying a new license.
 
M
 

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From: David Dodson
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:35:19 PDT 
Hi, Marianna,
So, to be clear, those of us whose renewals would normally be in December or January, need to renew our subscriptions before August 30th or we will have to pay the new FULL PRICE?
 
 
 
Marianna Montague
Sr. Director, Customer Success Management 
Customer Experience & Customer Success
Avid - Remote
marianna.montague@avid.com 
t +1 (978) 640-5215   |  m +1 (813) 493-6800 
 

 

Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?

Symphony is an option and you own that so nothing needed on that score.  You can just use the Symphony option with the MC license thru 2022 and if you renew then same applies 😊

 

Marianna Montague
Sr. Director, Customer Success Management 
Customer Experience & Customer Success
Avid - Remote
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From: Davaldod <davaldod@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 10:05 AM
To: "Avid-L2@groups.io" <Avid-L2@groups.io>, Marianna Montague <marianna.montague@avid.com>
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Hi, Marianna,

 

Happily, I successfully renewed/re-subscribed yesterday at the $399. It now says my next renewal date is something like November 2022.

 

The only thing I couldn't get a handle on is what happens to things like my Symphony option. Is that handled separately somehow? Or is it "grandfathered" in to the my new, current renewal?

 

Thanks,

 

DD

 

 

 

David Dodson

 

 

 



On Aug 21, 2021, at 7:01 AM, Marianna <marianna.montague@avid.com> wrote:

 

David

 

The renewal goes up $100 only so the renewal plan is $499 for the year after August 30th, 2021.  You can renew before August 30, 2021 for $399 and then we add the 365 days expiration to the end of your existing plan.

 

The new perpetual license will be a higher price as well but for net new users buying a new license.

 

M

 


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From: David Dodson
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:35:19 PDT 

Hi, Marianna,

So, to be clear, those of us whose renewals would normally be in December or January, need to renew our subscriptions before August 30th or we will have to pay the new FULL PRICE?

 

 

 

Marianna Montague
Sr. Director, Customer Success Management 
Customer Experience & Customer Success
Avid - Remote
marianna.montague@avid.com 
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Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?

Your Symphony option, like mine, is a one time purchase option and it should stick forever.

Marcel


On 21/08/2021 10:05, David Dodson wrote:
Hi, Marianna,

Happily, I successfully renewed/re-subscribed yesterday at the $399. It now says my next renewal date is something like November 2022.

The only thing I couldn't get a handle on is what happens to things like my Symphony option. Is that handled separately somehow? Or is it "grandfathered" in to the my new, current renewal?

Thanks,

DD



David Dodson




On Aug 21, 2021, at 7:01 AM, Marianna <marianna.montague@avid.com> wrote:

David
 
The renewal goes up $100 only so the renewal plan is $499 for the year after August 30th, 2021.  You can renew before August 30, 2021 for $399 and then we add the 365 days expiration to the end of your existing plan.
 
The new perpetual license will be a higher price as well but for net new users buying a new license.
 
M
 

Re: Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?
 
From: David Dodson
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:35:19 PDT 
Hi, Marianna,
So, to be clear, those of us whose renewals would normally be in December or January, need to renew our subscriptions before August 30th or we will have to pay the new FULL PRICE?
 
 
 
Marianna Montague
Sr. Director, Customer Success Management 
Customer Experience & Customer Success
Avid - Remote
marianna.montague@avid.com 
t +1 (978) 640-5215   |  m +1 (813) 493-6800 
 


Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?

Hi, Marianna,

Happily, I successfully renewed/re-subscribed yesterday at the $399. It now says my next renewal date is something like November 2022.

The only thing I couldn't get a handle on is what happens to things like my Symphony option. Is that handled separately somehow? Or is it "grandfathered" in to the my new, current renewal?

Thanks,

DD



David Dodson




On Aug 21, 2021, at 7:01 AM, Marianna <marianna.montague@avid.com> wrote:

David
 
The renewal goes up $100 only so the renewal plan is $499 for the year after August 30th, 2021.  You can renew before August 30, 2021 for $399 and then we add the 365 days expiration to the end of your existing plan.
 
The new perpetual license will be a higher price as well but for net new users buying a new license.
 
M
 

Re: Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?
 
From: David Dodson
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:35:19 PDT 
Hi, Marianna,
So, to be clear, those of us whose renewals would normally be in December or January, need to renew our subscriptions before August 30th or we will have to pay the new FULL PRICE?
 
 
 
Marianna Montague
Sr. Director, Customer Success Management 
Customer Experience & Customer Success
Avid - Remote
marianna.montague@avid.com 
t +1 (978) 640-5215   |  m +1 (813) 493-6800 
 

Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?

David

 

The renewal goes up $100 only so the renewal plan is $499 for the year after August 30th, 2021.  You can renew before August 30, 2021 for $399 and then we add the 365 days expiration to the end of your existing plan.

 

The new perpetual license will be a higher price as well but for net new users buying a new license.

 

M

 


Re: Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?
 
From: David Dodson
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:35:19 PDT 

Hi, Marianna,

So, to be clear, those of us whose renewals would normally be in December or January, need to renew our subscriptions before August 30th or we will have to pay the new FULL PRICE?

 

 

 

Marianna Montague
Sr. Director, Customer Success Management 
Customer Experience & Customer Success
Avid - Remote
marianna.montague@avid.com 
t +1 (978) 640-5215   |  m +1 (813) 493-6800 

 

Friday, August 20, 2021

Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?

That absolutely worked. Thank you.



David Dodson




On Aug 20, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Marcel B. <bncrcaxlr@gmail.com> wrote:

Try turning off Auto Renewal.


On 20/08/2021 13:27, David Dodson wrote:
You would think this would be simple, but… in poking around the web site, I don't get the windows that the instructions say I'm supposed to get in order to facilitate the renewal. 

Plus, any windows I do get do not reflect the pricing that is being offered here.

Maybe Avid hasn't updated their web site… to accommodate something they say has to be done no later than ten days from now?


David Dodson

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On Aug 20, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:

Buy a renewal now for 399, or buy renewal after Aug 30 (including December) for 499.

On 20 Aug 2021, at 17:35, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Marianna,

So, to be clear, those of us whose renewals would normally be in December or January, need to renew our subscriptions before August 30th or we will have to pay the new FULL PRICE?

Thanks,

DD

David Dodson





Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?

Try turning off Auto Renewal.


On 20/08/2021 13:27, David Dodson wrote:
You would think this would be simple, but… in poking around the web site, I don't get the windows that the instructions say I'm supposed to get in order to facilitate the renewal. 

Plus, any windows I do get do not reflect the pricing that is being offered here.

Maybe Avid hasn't updated their web site… to accommodate something they say has to be done no later than ten days from now?


David Dodson





On Aug 20, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:

Buy a renewal now for 399, or buy renewal after Aug 30 (including December) for 499.

On 20 Aug 2021, at 17:35, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Marianna,

So, to be clear, those of us whose renewals would normally be in December or January, need to renew our subscriptions before August 30th or we will have to pay the new FULL PRICE?

Thanks,

DD

David Dodson




Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?

You would think this would be simple, but… in poking around the web site, I don't get the windows that the instructions say I'm supposed to get in order to facilitate the renewal. 

Plus, any windows I do get do not reflect the pricing that is being offered here.

Maybe Avid hasn't updated their web site… to accommodate something they say has to be done no later than ten days from now?


David Dodson





On Aug 20, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:

Buy a renewal now for 399, or buy renewal after Aug 30 (including December) for 499.

On 20 Aug 2021, at 17:35, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Marianna,

So, to be clear, those of us whose renewals would normally be in December or January, need to renew our subscriptions before August 30th or we will have to pay the new FULL PRICE?

Thanks,

DD

David Dodson



Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?

Buy a renewal now for 399, or buy renewal after Aug 30 (including December) for 499.

On 20 Aug 2021, at 17:35, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Marianna,

So, to be clear, those of us whose renewals would normally be in December or January, need to renew our subscriptions before August 30th or we will have to pay the new FULL PRICE?

Thanks,

DD

David Dodson


Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Perpetual License Price Increase?

Hi, Marianna,

So, to be clear, those of us whose renewals would normally be in December or January, need to renew our subscriptions before August 30th or we will have to pay the new FULL PRICE?

Thanks,

DD

David Dodson




On Aug 20, 2021, at 6:33 AM, Marianna <marianna.montague@avid.com> wrote:

John
Yes the renewals are going up $100 but that's not a lot considering that is spread over a year.  Also note that you can buy a few at the old price now and just extend your plan if you like.  Just make sure you do so before august 30th.  I answered your email too so you have mail from me direct as well.
 
Hope the pupalina is doing well whoooof. Luna is a nut case and all teenager at 14 months and ALL legs.
 
Marianna
 
Marianna Montague
Sr. Director, Customer Success Management 
Customer Experience & Customer Success
Avid - Remote
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