Saturday, December 14, 2019

[Avid-L2] Help! Offline Clips #Avid

Hi Everyone!!

We are working for a news organization on this system:
Media composer version 2018.12.7
with a Newscutter option 
Windows 10 Enterprise 10.0 16299
HP Z8 G4 Workstation
2.30 GHz 12 Core 24 logical processors
64 GB memory
 
We are working with a new Windows installation and a new Avid installation.
 
Our usual workflow for daily editing is a small local server running Interplay. Everything in this workflow was working fine.
 
Now for a 40-min documentary edit we have added an external USB 3.0 hard disk with all of our extra footage. Mostly shot on either P2 or Sony Alpha. MXF files. We need to edit both from this external drive and from existing footage on Interplay.
 
The edit starts normally, all footage visible. But during editing we are suddenly getting clips going offline. These are clips located on the USB 3.0 harddisk. In most cases we can use match frame from an "offline" clip and then find bin and suddenly the material appears again. But we have one sequence which stays offline completely.
 
We are (of course) under time constraints.
 
We have tried to dump the database files and restart and that did seem to decrease the issue initially but it has come back.
 
We are trying to make sure that the external drive isn't sleeping at the Windows level. Maybe that could cause the problem? But why just one sequence? we also had clips where PART of the clip was offline and part was online.
 
We tried to consolidate the sequence but this new system would only consolidate a few clips and then stop.
 
Now we have moved the project to a travel edit laptop and are consolidating there on a different external drive. We don't have room to move the whole raw material to the local hard drive on to the server.

We are also going to try to open a new project and bring the bins over, to see whether it's the new Avid version causing problems... though we had no problems with the new version and our Interplay workflows.
 
I looked in the archive but couldn't find anything similar.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Josh
 
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Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

"my default setting"  are you talking about site settings, mc State or what.  User settings work so that's good.
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Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

Interesting.  Thanks for the tip!  Another good reason not to allow your edit systems to be connected to the internet.

Although QNAP systems are probably designed to be internet servers, you don't have to use them that way.   

Seems like a good time to run those updates, though??

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On Dec 14, 2019, at 07:05, Karl Knowles <tech@knowlesvideo.com> wrote:

QNAP has a checkered history of vulnerabilities one should be aware of when considering them, and ensure diligence in maintaining them after a purchase. 

Qsnatch is the most recent incident. 

https://www.qnap.com/en-us/security-advisory/NAS-201911-01

https://www.zdnet.com/article/thousands-of-qnap-nas-devices-have-been-infected-with-the-qsnatch-malware/

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Serious-vulnerabilities-in-QNAP-storage-and-surveillance-systems-Update-1883263.html

https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?t=18863

https://threatpost.com/shellshock-worm-exploiting-unpatched-qnap-nas-devices/109870/

https://www.itworld.com/article/2694918/shellshock-attacks-target-qnap-s-network-storage--fireeye-says.html

Caveat Emptor

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Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

QNAP has a checkered history of vulnerabilities one should be aware of when considering them, and ensure diligence in maintaining them after a purchase. 

Qsnatch is the most recent incident. 

https://www.qnap.com/en-us/security-advisory/NAS-201911-01

https://www.zdnet.com/article/thousands-of-qnap-nas-devices-have-been-infected-with-the-qsnatch-malware/

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Serious-vulnerabilities-in-QNAP-storage-and-surveillance-systems-Update-1883263.html

https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?t=18863

https://threatpost.com/shellshock-worm-exploiting-unpatched-qnap-nas-devices/109870/

https://www.itworld.com/article/2694918/shellshock-attacks-target-qnap-s-network-storage--fireeye-says.html

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Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

On 14 Dec 2019, at 01:31, Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:

Pardon my ignorance but: Should not at least MC be able to tell the difference in order to properly handle the whole idea of shared storage?

Hi Job,
Define 'ignorance'.
And define 'shared storage'.
What I ment: 
In the dark ages, Avid would not use drives that were not 'Avid'.
Then the red baret brigade got the best of Avid, and Avid changed the policy, with the console 'alldrives' command.
Then, something else (memory fails here) network drives became supported.
However, there is still a difference. (Others, feel free to chime in here!)

Now, the only thing I 'think' is the case:
If you use an Iscsi mounted network drive, MC cannot / should not know the difference.
(I have no clue why you (have) spent a shitload of money on ISIS…)

For 'shared storage':
If multiple workstations work with the same media and the MDB's have to be updated / refreshed, it's different.
But, I don't think you get bitten by this kind / type of workflow issues, since you only do long form.


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On 13 Dec 2019, at 22:45, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

The OS won't know the difference between an iSCSI network drive and a local drive.


Re: [Avid-L2] Baselight for Avid Upgrade Policy?

https://www.filmlight.ltd.uk/products/editions/overview_ed.php

$300 is upgrade price. 
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Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

The code is already there. When a shared storage emulates the Avid File System (mimiq, terrablock, EditShare, etc) MC automatically switches to shared storage mode. MC and not the server does all the bin locking, media folder renaming, project settings, etc and not the storage server. 



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On Dec 13, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Jay Mahavier via Groups.Io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

What would be great is if they added a little bit of code so that when MC worked with any storage that it would name the media folders the same way it does on unity/isis/nexus

Avid MediaFiles/MXF/{computer name}.#

Because if you use a simple shared volume it just uses 1, 2, 3, 4, etc and every MC system that connects to it wants to rebuild the database.

But then you would see all the nexus sales evaporate.

Jay


On Dec 13, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:

Pardon my ignorance but: Should not at least MC be able to tell the difference in order to properly handle the whole idea of shared storage?

On 13 Dec 2019, at 22:45, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

The OS won't know the difference between an iSCSI network drive and a local drive.


Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

What would be great is if they added a little bit of code so that when MC worked with any storage that it would name the media folders the same way it does on unity/isis/nexus

Avid MediaFiles/MXF/{computer name}.#

Because if you use a simple shared volume it just uses 1, 2, 3, 4, etc and every MC system that connects to it wants to rebuild the database.

But then you would see all the nexus sales evaporate.

Jay


On Dec 13, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:

Pardon my ignorance but: Should not at least MC be able to tell the difference in order to properly handle the whole idea of shared storage?

On 13 Dec 2019, at 22:45, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

The OS won't know the difference between an iSCSI network drive and a local drive.


Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

Pardon my ignorance but: Should not at least MC be able to tell the difference in order to properly handle the whole idea of shared storage?

On 13 Dec 2019, at 22:45, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

The OS won't know the difference between an iSCSI network drive and a local drive.

Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

I'm running 2019.11, seems to be ok- but I haven't actually tried sharing the project with another bay.  I'm out of the office today, but when I'm in the bay again I can check for .lck files, etc.

The first time I used mimiq I had to rebuild my default system setting- not sure why. Maybe they're storing those in a different spot sings mimiq Runs on the client, not the server- so there's probably some fakery going on there.  User settings didn't change.

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On Dec 13, 2019, at 13:15, Jay Mahavier via Groups.Io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

I've been hearing good things about the QNAP stuff.  I've also glanced at Mimiq.  Do you know if it's working with the 2019 version of Media Composer?  I worry about Avid doing something to break it.

Jay


On Dec 10, 2019, at 5:02 PM, Secret HQ <Greg@SecretHQ.com> wrote:

We sold our office building and I'm downsized to just two bays- it didn't make fiscal sense to keep paying the service contract on the terrablock, so I asked Bob Zelin to talk me through setting up a QNAP - it's crazy fast and dirt cheap.   I've got 8x12tb, raid 6, so 65tb of useable space.    For avid, as indiesor Mimiq tineach client and it gives you bon locking and everything you're used to.

All in, including drives, under 4K.  (I used 5400 rpm drives to save $, but the recommended speed is 7200.  I get sustained 600Mbps with the slower drives, so I'm happy!

The box I bought has 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports, but the more typical install is a 10gig e switch for a dozen users.  

Also, they include all kinds of software, including some that allows you to set it up in a remote mirror-type situation, so can sync through the internet.  (I haven't tried that- my clients don't allow servers to be connected to the internet.)

Worth looking in to.

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On Dec 10, 2019, at 13:16, wilsonchao <wilsonchao@gmail.com> wrote:


Back in Nov. 2014 I bought eight RAID enclosures by Akitio as locally-attached media storage for Avids.  Here's the current version (mine are from the previous USB 3.0 generation):


So far (5 years) they have all been working flawlessly.  Each enclosure, with 2 spindles in a RAID 0 pair, will easily sustain 4 multicam streams of DNxHD 145, all the way from empty past 90% full.  I've been using only HGST and Toshiba drives (cousins, if not siblings, after the Hitachi - Western Digital shotgun marriage of 2012) and so far I have no complaints.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:52 PM Jay Mahavier via Groups.Io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Looking for some local storage recommendations for a trashcan Mac.  We got a G-Tech Shuttle XL 


And it is just terrible.  I mean if I'm doing a finder level copy of a ton of data it's very fast, but as media storage it is just very slow to respond and scrub a timeline or clip.  This is comparing it to an identical MacPro with the same project and media that's on an ISIS.  The systems are being used as offline editors with DNx LB media, so the bandwidth isn't huge.  But it does need to be 30TB+ because the it's going to mirror the ISIS, just in a remote location.


Thank you for your recommendations.


Jay




Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

What Bob Z. does not do, but is unbreakable (in theory, and as we ll know, in theory there is no difference between theory and practice), is using iSCSI.
The OS won't know the difference between an iSCSI network drive and a local drive.
That was my trick for network local storage long time ago, an I 'think' it still flies. (Although not a 'must to get it going'.)

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On 13 Dec 2019, at 21:48, Jay Mahavier via Groups.Io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

I've been hearing good things about the QNAP stuff.  I've also glanced at Mimiq.  Do you know if it's working with the 2019 version of Media Composer?  I worry about Avid doing something to break it.

Jay


On Dec 10, 2019, at 5:02 PM, Secret HQ <Greg@SecretHQ.com> wrote:

We sold our office building and I'm downsized to just two bays- it didn't make fiscal sense to keep paying the service contract on the terrablock, so I asked Bob Zelin to talk me through setting up a QNAP - it's crazy fast and dirt cheap.   I've got 8x12tb, raid 6, so 65tb of useable space.    For avid, as indiesor Mimiq tineach client and it gives you bon locking and everything you're used to.

All in, including drives, under 4K.  (I used 5400 rpm drives to save $, but the recommended speed is 7200.  I get sustained 600Mbps with the slower drives, so I'm happy!

The box I bought has 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports, but the more typical install is a 10gig e switch for a dozen users.  

Also, they include all kinds of software, including some that allows you to set it up in a remote mirror-type situation, so can sync through the internet.  (I haven't tried that- my clients don't allow servers to be connected to the internet.)

Worth looking in to.

________________________
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Secret Headquarters, Inc
GK Huson, LLC
Greg (at) SecretHQ.com


On Dec 10, 2019, at 13:16, wilsonchao <wilsonchao@gmail.com> wrote:


Back in Nov. 2014 I bought eight RAID enclosures by Akitio as locally-attached media storage for Avids.  Here's the current version (mine are from the previous USB 3.0 generation):


So far (5 years) they have all been working flawlessly.  Each enclosure, with 2 spindles in a RAID 0 pair, will easily sustain 4 multicam streams of DNxHD 145, all the way from empty past 90% full.  I've been using only HGST and Toshiba drives (cousins, if not siblings, after the Hitachi - Western Digital shotgun marriage of 2012) and so far I have no complaints.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:52 PM Jay Mahavier via Groups.Io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Looking for some local storage recommendations for a trashcan Mac.  We got a G-Tech Shuttle XL 


And it is just terrible.  I mean if I'm doing a finder level copy of a ton of data it's very fast, but as media storage it is just very slow to respond and scrub a timeline or clip.  This is comparing it to an identical MacPro with the same project and media that's on an ISIS.  The systems are being used as offline editors with DNx LB media, so the bandwidth isn't huge.  But it does need to be 30TB+ because the it's going to mirror the ISIS, just in a remote location.


Thank you for your recommendations.


Jay





Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

I've been hearing good things about the QNAP stuff.  I've also glanced at Mimiq.  Do you know if it's working with the 2019 version of Media Composer?  I worry about Avid doing something to break it.

Jay


On Dec 10, 2019, at 5:02 PM, Secret HQ <Greg@SecretHQ.com> wrote:

We sold our office building and I'm downsized to just two bays- it didn't make fiscal sense to keep paying the service contract on the terrablock, so I asked Bob Zelin to talk me through setting up a QNAP - it's crazy fast and dirt cheap.   I've got 8x12tb, raid 6, so 65tb of useable space.    For avid, as indiesor Mimiq tineach client and it gives you bon locking and everything you're used to.

All in, including drives, under 4K.  (I used 5400 rpm drives to save $, but the recommended speed is 7200.  I get sustained 600Mbps with the slower drives, so I'm happy!

The box I bought has 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports, but the more typical install is a 10gig e switch for a dozen users.  

Also, they include all kinds of software, including some that allows you to set it up in a remote mirror-type situation, so can sync through the internet.  (I haven't tried that- my clients don't allow servers to be connected to the internet.)

Worth looking in to.

________________________
Greg Huson
Secret Headquarters, Inc
GK Huson, LLC
Greg (at) SecretHQ.com


On Dec 10, 2019, at 13:16, wilsonchao <wilsonchao@gmail.com> wrote:


Back in Nov. 2014 I bought eight RAID enclosures by Akitio as locally-attached media storage for Avids.  Here's the current version (mine are from the previous USB 3.0 generation):


So far (5 years) they have all been working flawlessly.  Each enclosure, with 2 spindles in a RAID 0 pair, will easily sustain 4 multicam streams of DNxHD 145, all the way from empty past 90% full.  I've been using only HGST and Toshiba drives (cousins, if not siblings, after the Hitachi - Western Digital shotgun marriage of 2012) and so far I have no complaints.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:52 PM Jay Mahavier via Groups.Io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Looking for some local storage recommendations for a trashcan Mac.  We got a G-Tech Shuttle XL 


And it is just terrible.  I mean if I'm doing a finder level copy of a ton of data it's very fast, but as media storage it is just very slow to respond and scrub a timeline or clip.  This is comparing it to an identical MacPro with the same project and media that's on an ISIS.  The systems are being used as offline editors with DNx LB media, so the bandwidth isn't huge.  But it does need to be 30TB+ because the it's going to mirror the ISIS, just in a remote location.


Thank you for your recommendations.


Jay




Re: [Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

I'm here, you're not.
This thread is about a poor soul who might have lost his life, or is about to do so.

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On 12 Dec 2019, at 22:14, RobertoSFO <roberto@puregrain.com> wrote:

Where's Bouke? I thought this thread would be in his wheel house. 

DCP-o-matic worked well for me a couple of years ago, which is about how often I need DCP authoring. 
I sent the author my thanks and enough donation to cover a round of pints. 

-Roberto 

On Dec 12, 2019, at 6:31 AM, Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:

I'm pretty sure my friend got higher speeds, but has all SSD's for fastest processing. J

On 12 Dec 2019, at 15:16, Light Visions <lightvisions2020@gmail.com> wrote:

DCP-o-matic takes me about 7 hours to transcode a 2K DCP two hour movie with my computer. 



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Thursday, December 12, 2019

Re: [Avid-L2] Working in RGB project and switching to 12 bit output shifts black up?

Avid confirmed the bug and reproduced it.
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Where's Bouke? I thought this thread would be in his wheel house. 

DCP-o-matic worked well for me a couple of years ago, which is about how often I need DCP authoring. 
I sent the author my thanks and enough donation to cover a round of pints. 

-Roberto 

On Dec 12, 2019, at 6:31 AM, Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:

I'm pretty sure my friend got higher speeds, but has all SSD's for fastest processing. J

On 12 Dec 2019, at 15:16, Light Visions <lightvisions2020@gmail.com> wrote:

DCP-o-matic takes me about 7 hours to transcode a 2K DCP two hour movie with my computer. 


[Avid-L2] DP in Hawaii

Can anyone recommend a good DP in Hawaii to shoot interviews for a doc?  I know no one over there and my producer is looking.  Shoot may be in Maui.

Thanks 
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Re: [Avid-L2] Most reliable version of MC 2019.x?

2019 is still evolving so I'd go 2019.11

Pat Horridge


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Hi all,

As was still in the middle of a long project, I have been reluctant to move to 2019.x from 2018.5 / 2018.9. As the project comes to a closing, I'm preparing to move to 2019.x. In your experience, which is the most stable version of 2019.x? I'm using it for editing feature films, on an ISIS5K.

Thanks and best
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[Avid-L2] Most reliable version of MC 2019.x?

Hi all,

As was still in the middle of a long project, I have been reluctant to move to 2019.x from 2018.5 / 2018.9. As the project comes to a closing, I'm preparing to move to 2019.x. In your experience, which is the most stable version of 2019.x? I'm using it for editing feature films, on an ISIS5K.

Thanks and best
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Re: [Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

I'm pretty sure my friend got higher speeds, but has all SSD's for fastest processing. J

On 12 Dec 2019, at 15:16, Light Visions <lightvisions2020@gmail.com> wrote:

DCP-o-matic takes me about 7 hours to transcode a 2K DCP two hour movie with my computer. 

Re: [Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

DCP-o-matic takes me about 7 hours to transcode a 2K DCP two hour movie with my computer. I just fire it up before I go to bed and it's finished in the morning. The big plus is it's free! I've screened my movies in pro theaters with no problems! Pretty amazing when you consider it was only a few short years ago theaters screened film instead of today's digital projectors. Arthur Springer


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 1:51 PM Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:
Not personally, but I have seen friends use it. They get nowhere near the transcoding speeds I get from FinalDCP (up to 115fps on my z840), and nowhere near as fluid an interface. J

On 11 Dec 2019, at 09:15, Light Visions <lightvisions2020@gmail.com> wrote:

Have you tried DCP-o-matic? Arthur Springer


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:45 PM Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:
I asked around through Timm's former partners at MagnaMana (where Final DCP was first released), but even they are not getting through. My license is still running, but it means I can no longer swap my main HD, upgrade my OS, or move the license to another machine.

I'm considering biting the bullet and going for Fraunhofer's EasyDCP.

If you're on Win, you could check out QubeMaster Xpress. Much, much, much more cumbersome than FinalDCP, but it did the job when I used to use it back in 2012/2013.

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[Avid-L2] Motion Effect Settings

Hi y'all,

I've got a question that's been nagging me for years; one of those problems that I should have asked about ages ago but never got around to.

I'm a colorist.  When I get a program from offline, is there a way to take all the motion effects in a sequence and 1) Promote them,  plus 2)Set the interpolation type (eg. to Both Fields)?

I'm familiar with the Render setting, but that doesn't change things the offline editor manually overrode, afaik, and it also doesn't Promote motion effects (whatever that even means). Nor does the Refresh Sequence/Motion Effects and Timewarps command.

Thanks in advance!

Warmly on a cool day,
Seth Buncher


Re: [Avid-L2] #GratersAreComing

Not yet. 

On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 20:42, Pierre <ph@cineaste.org> wrote:
So Avid is about to release a new version to take advantage of it? And make it work on the new OS since this new computer won't run on anything else...

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Re: [Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

Not personally, but I have seen friends use it. They get nowhere near the transcoding speeds I get from FinalDCP (up to 115fps on my z840), and nowhere near as fluid an interface. J

On 11 Dec 2019, at 09:15, Light Visions <lightvisions2020@gmail.com> wrote:

Have you tried DCP-o-matic? Arthur Springer


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:45 PM Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:
I asked around through Timm's former partners at MagnaMana (where Final DCP was first released), but even they are not getting through. My license is still running, but it means I can no longer swap my main HD, upgrade my OS, or move the license to another machine.

I'm considering biting the bullet and going for Fraunhofer's EasyDCP.

If you're on Win, you could check out QubeMaster Xpress. Much, much, much more cumbersome than FinalDCP, but it did the job when I used to use it back in 2012/2013.

Re: [Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

I've used both DCP-O-Matic and easyDCP, and can say that while DCP-O-Matic is very user friendly and gets a job done for free and should be pushed as far as it can for anyone needing DCP authoring tools for free, easyDCP (and especially easyDCP's integration in Resolve Studio) is nice, slick, and bulletproof. It's very nice to be able to author DCP direct from a Resolve timeline, and to be able to author encrypted DCPs and issue KDMs all from Resolve. The easyDCP Creator and Player apps are pretty simple to use but can be a little clunky for assembly, but they are pushing forward in enabling both DCP and IMF creation with their tools. Costs money, but the convenience factor can't be dismissed.

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 3:16 AM Light Visions <lightvisions2020@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you tried DCP-o-matic? Arthur Springer


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:45 PM Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:
I asked around through Timm's former partners at MagnaMana (where Final DCP was first released), but even they are not getting through. My license is still running, but it means I can no longer swap my main HD, upgrade my OS, or move the license to another machine.

I'm considering biting the bullet and going for Fraunhofer's EasyDCP.

If you're on Win, you could check out QubeMaster Xpress. Much, much, much more cumbersome than FinalDCP, but it did the job when I used to use it back in 2012/2013.

J


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Have you tried DCP-o-matic? Arthur Springer


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:45 PM Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:
I asked around through Timm's former partners at MagnaMana (where Final DCP was first released), but even they are not getting through. My license is still running, but it means I can no longer swap my main HD, upgrade my OS, or move the license to another machine.

I'm considering biting the bullet and going for Fraunhofer's EasyDCP.

If you're on Win, you could check out QubeMaster Xpress. Much, much, much more cumbersome than FinalDCP, but it did the job when I used to use it back in 2012/2013.

J


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Re: [Avid-L2] Working in RGB project and switching to 12 bit output shifts black up?



On 23 Nov 2019, at 08:37, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

an RGB project is meant fo be Full Range

It is not. It says RGB709, meaning full R G and B channels (as opposed to YCrCb), but still Rec 709 levels. 

Re: [Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

I asked around through Timm's former partners at MagnaMana (where Final DCP was first released), but even they are not getting through. My license is still running, but it means I can no longer swap my main HD, upgrade my OS, or move the license to another machine.

I'm considering biting the bullet and going for Fraunhofer's EasyDCP.

If you're on Win, you could check out QubeMaster Xpress. Much, much, much more cumbersome than FinalDCP, but it did the job when I used to use it back in 2012/2013.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations


On Dec 10, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Jay Mahavier via Groups.Io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Both of those are good recommendations, thank you very much.  But now I'm wondering if having this Shuttle XL in Raid 6 is causing problems with it's initial response when a request comes in.  Any thoughts about that?

I don't have experience with those systems, but I don't see why Raid 6 should slowdown playback.  If anything it would slowdown write speed, no?


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Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

Happy so far with a new drive: OWC's Elite Pro Dock, using as an 8TB RAID 0 workhorse, and dock, with Thunderbolt 3. That's connected to OWC's Thunderbay 4 for a 12TB RAID 5  backup and extra storage. Eventually everything goes to old reliable, a 2013 Pegasus R6 10TB RAID 5 for archiving via Thunderbolt 2. 

G-Drives are / were great, I haven't had one fail as yet, but I recently switched to OWC and like their tech support and quality build overall. 
  
Roberto Miller
Pure Grain Digital • Mountain View • San Francisco • Lyon



On Dec 10, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Secret HQ <Greg@SecretHQ.com> wrote:

We sold our office building and I'm downsized to just two bays- it didn't make fiscal sense to keep paying the service contract on the terrablock, so I asked Bob Zelin to talk me through setting up a QNAP - it's crazy fast and dirt cheap.   I've got 8x12tb, raid 6, so 65tb of useable space.    For avid, as indiesor Mimiq tineach client and it gives you bon locking and everything you're used to.

All in, including drives, under 4K.  (I used 5400 rpm drives to save $, but the recommended speed is 7200.  I get sustained 600Mbps with the slower drives, so I'm happy!

The box I bought has 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports, but the more typical install is a 10gig e switch for a dozen users.  

Also, they include all kinds of software, including some that allows you to set it up in a remote mirror-type situation, so can sync through the internet.  (I haven't tried that- my clients don't allow servers to be connected to the internet.)

Worth looking in to.

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Secret Headquarters, Inc
GK Huson, LLC
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On Dec 10, 2019, at 13:16, wilsonchao <wilsonchao@gmail.com> wrote:


Back in Nov. 2014 I bought eight RAID enclosures by Akitio as locally-attached media storage for Avids.  Here's the current version (mine are from the previous USB 3.0 generation):


So far (5 years) they have all been working flawlessly.  Each enclosure, with 2 spindles in a RAID 0 pair, will easily sustain 4 multicam streams of DNxHD 145, all the way from empty past 90% full.  I've been using only HGST and Toshiba drives (cousins, if not siblings, after the Hitachi - Western Digital shotgun marriage of 2012) and so far I have no complaints.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:52 PM Jay Mahavier via Groups.Io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Looking for some local storage recommendations for a trashcan Mac.  We got a G-Tech Shuttle XL 


And it is just terrible.  I mean if I'm doing a finder level copy of a ton of data it's very fast, but as media storage it is just very slow to respond and scrub a timeline or clip.  This is comparing it to an identical MacPro with the same project and media that's on an ISIS.  The systems are being used as offline editors with DNx LB media, so the bandwidth isn't huge.  But it does need to be 30TB+ because the it's going to mirror the ISIS, just in a remote location.


Thank you for your recommendations.


Jay




[Avid-L2] MC 2019 and Premiere

In among all the info Avid has put out about the new 2019 version is the
line
"An improved interoperability workflow for exchanging sequences between
Media Composer and Adobe Premiere Pro"

We are still chugging along with no support contract v8.4.4, but has
anyone using 2019 tried exchanging sequences with Premiere?
A freelance I am looking to hire for a project uses Premiere. He's
willing to learn Avid but he'd no doubt be more efficient using software
he knows. I'd be willing to upgrade one of our bays to 2019 if the
MC<->Premiere exchange worked well.

Any info on real world experience appreciated!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

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Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

We sold our office building and I'm downsized to just two bays- it didn't make fiscal sense to keep paying the service contract on the terrablock, so I asked Bob Zelin to talk me through setting up a QNAP - it's crazy fast and dirt cheap.   I've got 8x12tb, raid 6, so 65tb of useable space.    For avid, as indiesor Mimiq tineach client and it gives you bon locking and everything you're used to.

All in, including drives, under 4K.  (I used 5400 rpm drives to save $, but the recommended speed is 7200.  I get sustained 600Mbps with the slower drives, so I'm happy!

The box I bought has 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports, but the more typical install is a 10gig e switch for a dozen users.  

Also, they include all kinds of software, including some that allows you to set it up in a remote mirror-type situation, so can sync through the internet.  (I haven't tried that- my clients don't allow servers to be connected to the internet.)

Worth looking in to.

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Secret Headquarters, Inc
GK Huson, LLC
Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
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On Dec 10, 2019, at 13:16, wilsonchao <wilsonchao@gmail.com> wrote:


Back in Nov. 2014 I bought eight RAID enclosures by Akitio as locally-attached media storage for Avids.  Here's the current version (mine are from the previous USB 3.0 generation):


So far (5 years) they have all been working flawlessly.  Each enclosure, with 2 spindles in a RAID 0 pair, will easily sustain 4 multicam streams of DNxHD 145, all the way from empty past 90% full.  I've been using only HGST and Toshiba drives (cousins, if not siblings, after the Hitachi - Western Digital shotgun marriage of 2012) and so far I have no complaints.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:52 PM Jay Mahavier via Groups.Io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Looking for some local storage recommendations for a trashcan Mac.  We got a G-Tech Shuttle XL 


And it is just terrible.  I mean if I'm doing a finder level copy of a ton of data it's very fast, but as media storage it is just very slow to respond and scrub a timeline or clip.  This is comparing it to an identical MacPro with the same project and media that's on an ISIS.  The systems are being used as offline editors with DNx LB media, so the bandwidth isn't huge.  But it does need to be 30TB+ because the it's going to mirror the ISIS, just in a remote location.


Thank you for your recommendations.


Jay

Re: [Avid-L2] Mac local storage for Avid media recommendations

Both of those are good recommendations, thank you very much.  But now I'm wondering if having this Shuttle XL in Raid 6 is causing problems with it's initial response when a request comes in.  Any thoughts about that?

Jay


On Dec 10, 2019, at 2:15 PM, wilsonchao <wilsonchao@gmail.com> wrote:

Back in Nov. 2014 I bought eight RAID enclosures by Akitio as locally-attached media storage for Avids.  Here's the current version (mine are from the previous USB 3.0 generation):


So far (5 years) they have all been working flawlessly.  Each enclosure, with 2 spindles in a RAID 0 pair, will easily sustain 4 multicam streams of DNxHD 145, all the way from empty past 90% full.  I've been using only HGST and Toshiba drives (cousins, if not siblings, after the Hitachi - Western Digital shotgun marriage of 2012) and so far I have no complaints.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:52 PM Jay Mahavier via Groups.Io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Looking for some local storage recommendations for a trashcan Mac.  We got a G-Tech Shuttle XL 


And it is just terrible.  I mean if I'm doing a finder level copy of a ton of data it's very fast, but as media storage it is just very slow to respond and scrub a timeline or clip.  This is comparing it to an identical MacPro with the same project and media that's on an ISIS.  The systems are being used as offline editors with DNx LB media, so the bandwidth isn't huge.  But it does need to be 30TB+ because the it's going to mirror the ISIS, just in a remote location.


Thank you for your recommendations.


Jay




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