Saturday, May 31, 2014

[Avid-L2] [OT] Official Restaurant of the Avid-L2?

 



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Friday, May 30, 2014

Re: [Avid-L2] Some Good News [slightly OT and long winded]

 

The biggest two things I don't like in Premiere is the cursor's tendency to jump around in the timeline - and that you can't seem to map effects to a keystroke.  That means if I'm doing multicam, and I want to drop a dissolve on a bunch of edits, I have to drag it over every single time.  Really annoying.

Raster Independence, and integration are great.  No need for the bogus Pan and Scan plug in either.

Mark


On 5/30/2014 3:03 PM, Benjamin Hershleder Ben@ContactBen.com [Avid-L2] wrote:
 

Funny that you mention this Michael.
I just recently spent some hours looking over Premiere CC, too
(I guess there are some timeline changes from v6 to CC, so I focused on CC).
While there are some nice features/abilities that make it interesting (and that I wish MC would have too),
there are a variety of things that an average user, like me, didn't like.
At first glance (admittedly not digging overly deep), just a couple things I didn't like that come
to mind right off are:
- the JKL trimming (and trimming in general) -- supposedly improved in CC, I think -- but still
not as responsive and user-friendly as MC.
- Dealing with User Settings
- How it deals with mixing frame rates (maybe someone can convince me that it's as good as MC…)
- The way track patching works (newly implemented, yet!)

Things I liked:
- Raster independence
- Story App. (though it looks to be quite time intensive, compared to Phase Find, if that remains as an option), but I liked some of the features of it.
- Integration with Photoshop and After Effects.
- How much the GUI is like other Adobe Apps, like After Effects, made me feel relatively comfortable quickly. It would be nice if MC would implement some of their UI features. I should say "other UI features" because it appears to me that Adobe has been an inspiration for the MC designers/engineers in the recent past*

* I will use every opportunity, including this one, to once again (this may be my 504th time) plead with Avid for the earlier, much more robust, interface customization abilities to be returned (and then some), as well as the return of something along the lines of the SuperBin.

Anyway . . .
Long Live MC!

Have a good weekend all!

B

On May 30, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Michael Kedor mikedor@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

With all the consternation surrounding Avid and the uncertainty of its future, I thought it would be best to expand my toolset.

I mean, I have this copy of Premiere CS 6 that's been collecting dust. Why not cut a little charity promo piece in it to see what's under the hood?

Simple enough. Footage shot from a Nikon with an H.264 codec shouldn't be too complicated, right?

I fire up Premiere and wait. Hmm. It's taking a while. What's happening on facebook? This CrossFit fail video is hilarious! Wait, is Premiere still loading? Hmm.

Force quit. Relaunch.

Let's read a bit about the NFL OTAs while it launches. Julius Peppers might be a beast this season under Dom Capers. Seriously, Premiere hasn't finished loading, yet?

Force quit. Restart the computer.

Launch Premiere. Only Premiere. Ok, we're in. Set up my bins and project settings. Point Premiere to my media. Good. No transcoding to be done. Good. Right click and make a sequence from my clip. Load that sequence. Press play. No monitor out through the Blackmagic card. Hmm. Check Blackmagic settings to match sequence settings. Ok. Picture. Press play and there are dropped frames and audio sync issues. Well, this isn't going to work for cutting. Bypass monitor out. Press play. Still clunky.

2.5 hours later.

Shut Premiere down. Launch Avid. Set up my bins, and AMA the media into the project. Play first clip. Monitoring out is working. There are no dropped frames, and the audio is in sync.

Whelp, Avid made the choice for me. It just works. I don't want to have to transcode the source media if I don't have to.

Thank you, Avid. Please don't go away.

I CAN'T QUIT YOU, AVID!

-Michael Kedor

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Worst upgrade experience EVER!

 

Thanks Dave...

Cheers,
--Michael

On 14-05-30 3:35 PM, 'Dave Spraker' avid@spraker.tv [Avid-L2] wrote:
 

Sure.  I posted it before and it is a reported bug.

 

Transcoding from ProRes 444 SLog shot on Arri Alexa to DNX220x fails in Media Composer 7.  The same footage transcodes correctly on 6.5.x.

 

It has something to do with audio.  If you delete the audio, there is no error message.

 

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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Worst upgrade experience EVER!

 

Sure.  I posted it before and it is a reported bug.

 

Transcoding from ProRes 444 SLog shot on Arri Alexa to DNX220x fails in Media Composer 7.  The same footage transcodes correctly on 6.5.x.

 

It has something to do with audio.  If you delete the audio, there is no error message.

 

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What was the transcode issue, if you don't mind sharing?

Thanks,
--Michael

On 14-05-30 10:08 AM, 'Dave Spraker' avid@spraker.tv [Avid-L2] wrote:

 

Pat –

 

I did reach out to M but she was unable to respond.  My biggest frustration is that they have created a system so complicated even Avid “employees” can’t figure it out.

 

We used most of the 30 days to make sure there were no issues.  We did find a transcode bug that required holding several systems back at 6.5.4.

 

 

 

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Re: [Avid-L2] New Relinking Tip

 

That's been my experience also Mark. But I try to avoid staying in AMA land as much as possible.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Worst upgrade experience EVER!

 

What was the transcode issue, if you don't mind sharing?

Thanks,
--Michael

On 14-05-30 10:08 AM, 'Dave Spraker' avid@spraker.tv [Avid-L2] wrote:
 

Pat –

 

I did reach out to M but she was unable to respond.  My biggest frustration is that they have created a system so complicated even Avid “employees” can’t figure it out.

 

We used most of the 30 days to make sure there were no issues.  We did find a transcode bug that required holding several systems back at 6.5.4.

 



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Re: [Avid-L2] New Relinking Tip

 

Any time I've ever had AMA material go offline, I just link it again. Forget "Relink to AMA Media", as has already been discussed. Link again, and you're good. Occasionally I'll have to do a relink on my sequence, but most of the time I don't. Just link again, and everything's good to go. And since linking is usually pretty quick, I've never worried about this issue.


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Andi Meek kwikpasta@hotmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

The manual says to: > select the AMA files you wish to relink in the bin (shift+select multiple clips) > Right click and select Relink to AMA File(s) > Locate the folder where the files exist > click ok.

To me, this suggests that it should link to the whole folder and re-establish the links to the clips in the bin without creating new ones.  More useful than just re-AMAing the clips as any extra metadata you added to the unlinked AMA clips would be retained and not have to be entered again.  However, it definitely doesn't work like that.  To me this feature is broken.

Andi



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Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 17:49:17 +0100

Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] New Relinking Tip

 

It will, sometimes (no idea why) relink to a whole folder after pointing to the first file. But AMA relink is flaky, as you say. Nobody has ever been able to explain how it is SUPPOSED to work! I'd say that if a folder has been moved or renamed or the original drive is missing, then we should be able to use this feature but it is often greyed out.

 With best wishes,
Roger Shufflebottom

On 30 May 2014, at 15:54, "Andi Meek kwikpasta@hotmail.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I've found "relink to AMA" to be pretty useless as a relink method.  I posted on the forums about it but no one got back to me.  Long story short, it won't let you relink a whole folder of clips at once but only one file at a time, having to select the clip you want, click ok, then select the next clip you want, click ok etc and work your way through the whole folder in this manner.  Total waste of time. 

Andi


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> Additional note: the media was originally linked in MC6.5 but the project is now 7.0.4.
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RE: [Avid-L2] New Relinking Tip

 

The manual says to: > select the AMA files you wish to relink in the bin (shift+select multiple clips) > Right click and select Relink to AMA File(s) > Locate the folder where the files exist > click ok.

To me, this suggests that it should link to the whole folder and re-establish the links to the clips in the bin without creating new ones.  More useful than just re-AMAing the clips as any extra metadata you added to the unlinked AMA clips would be retained and not have to be entered again.  However, it definitely doesn't work like that.  To me this feature is broken.

Andi



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Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 17:49:17 +0100
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] New Relinking Tip

 

It will, sometimes (no idea why) relink to a whole folder after pointing to the first file. But AMA relink is flaky, as you say. Nobody has ever been able to explain how it is SUPPOSED to work! I'd say that if a folder has been moved or renamed or the original drive is missing, then we should be able to use this feature but it is often greyed out.

 With best wishes,
Roger Shufflebottom
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On 30 May 2014, at 15:54, "Andi Meek kwikpasta@hotmail.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I've found "relink to AMA" to be pretty useless as a relink method.  I posted on the forums about it but no one got back to me.  Long story short, it won't let you relink a whole folder of clips at once but only one file at a time, having to select the clip you want, click ok, then select the next clip you want, click ok etc and work your way through the whole folder in this manner.  Total waste of time. 

Andi


> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 09:39:09 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] New Relinking Tip
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> Additional note: the media was originally linked in MC6.5 but the project is now 7.0.4.
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> On May 30, 2014, at 9:36 AM, hoplist@hillmanncarr.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> > Maybe others have noticed this, but with the rapidly changing AMA linking I'm finding new tricks, at least new to me:
> >
> > I could not get P2 media that was originally AMA linked in MC 6.5 to relink after it was moved. The Relink to AMA Media menu option was not available and basic "Relink" did not work, of course.
> >
> > The trick: Find the original P2 folder in the Finder and OPTION drag and drop the enclosing P2 media folder into the bin containing the unlinked media, as if linking for the first time. Instead of creating a new set of clips, as I expected, MC relinks the media to the existing clips! Woo-hoo! Presumably using the menu AMA Link command would work as well, but I have not yet tried this.
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