On May 1, 2020, at 5:28 AM, avid_curren via groups.io <tcurren=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:There are caveats:
Compatibility when running macOS Catalina
No support for DMF (Dynamic Media Folders)
No support for Nitris DX and Mojo DX.
No support for the Avid Title Tool Application or Marquee.
If you have a Media Composer client that needs to connect to Production Management, you cannot upgrade the macOS on your Media Composer system to Catalina.
The Media Composer |Enterprise Admin tool is not supported on Catalina in this release. The Media Composer |Enterprise client will run on Catalina.
Avid NEXIS version 19.12.x is the earliest supported version to be supported with Catalina - with the following caveat:
- Thunderbolt 3 Ethernet adapters will not work with Avid NEXIS 19.12.x on Catalina. Thunderbolt 2 is fine. If you have a client system that uses Thunderbolt 3 and you need to connect to Nexis on Catalina, you will need a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter, and then attach your Thunderbolt 2 Ethernet adapter to that.
QuickTime functionality when running on a macOS Catalina system
Note the following regarding QuickTime on a macOS system:
What you cannot do:
MP4 export
Link to MOV or MP4 files using the following codecs: DNxHD with Alpha, Meridien, MPEG 50, DV, MPEG 4 (H.263), Apple None, Apple Intermediate, DVCPro, PNG*, or other formats that require a QuickTime Codec
Link to 3GP, 3G2, AU, AVI*, BMP*, DV, GIF, M4V, MID, MP2, MP3, MPE
WAV and AIFF import/export containing uncompressed PCM audio at 8 and 32-bit
Link, import or export QuickTime Reference, Same as Source
Link, import or export Variable Frame Rate (VFR) H.264 in MOV, MP4
* Note this is just PNG in a MOV container; PNG image files will still be supported * AVI Import is still supported on Windows systems without QuickTime installed
* Linking for BMP is not supported without QuickTime, however Import of BMP is supported without QuickTime
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Re: [Avid-L2] Media Composer OS compatibility matrix
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On 01/05/2020 08:26, avid_curren via groups.io wrote:
Ever wonder what versions of operating system works with your version of Media Composer? Here is Chris Bové's very helpful guide.
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Re: [Avid-L2] Media Composer OS compatibility matrix
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There are caveats:
Compatibility when running macOS Catalina
-
No support for DMF (Dynamic Media Folders)
-
No support for Nitris DX and Mojo DX.
-
No support for the Avid Title Tool Application or Marquee.
-
If you have a Media Composer client that needs to connect to Production Management, you cannot upgrade the macOS on your Media Composer system to Catalina.
-
The Media Composer |Enterprise Admin tool is not supported on Catalina in this release. The Media Composer |Enterprise client will run on Catalina.
-
Avid NEXIS version 19.12.x is the earliest supported version to be supported with Catalina - with the following caveat:
- Thunderbolt 3 Ethernet adapters will not work with Avid NEXIS 19.12.x on Catalina. Thunderbolt 2 is fine. If you have a client system that uses Thunderbolt 3 and you need to connect to Nexis on Catalina, you will need a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter, and then attach your Thunderbolt 2 Ethernet adapter to that.
QuickTime functionality when running on a macOS Catalina system
Note the following regarding QuickTime on a macOS system:
What you cannot do:
-
MP4 export
-
Link to MOV or MP4 files using the following codecs: DNxHD with Alpha, Meridien, MPEG 50, DV, MPEG 4 (H.263), Apple None, Apple Intermediate, DVCPro, PNG*, or other formats that require a QuickTime Codec
-
Link to 3GP, 3G2, AU, AVI*, BMP*, DV, GIF, M4V, MID, MP2, MP3, MPE
-
WAV and AIFF import/export containing uncompressed PCM audio at 8 and 32-bit
-
Link, import or export QuickTime Reference, Same as Source
-
Link, import or export Variable Frame Rate (VFR) H.264 in MOV, MP4
* Note this is just PNG in a MOV container; PNG image files will still be supported * AVI Import is still supported on Windows systems without QuickTime installed
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Re: [Avid-L2] MC on Catalina?
On Apr 30, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Roger via groups.io <rogershuff=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:Pretty good although I have logged a few issues. Look on the Avid Mac forum. Overall - fast and good to use with some caveats related to the 2019-2020 UI and 3rd part issues. If you don't have to run Catalina. stay off. 2020.4 will run on earlier OSs.With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660On Thursday, 30 April 2020, 16:04:17 BST, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:Is anyone running MC 2020.4 on Catalina? And, if so, how's it going?Thanks,DD
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I was on 2018.12.3 until late last year but on Win7. I'm not sure I understand what rendering upper VITC track is, but I've noticed this behavior when there are several layers of video with FX on them. I render the highest track that will render fully and then go back and render the uppermost.
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Re: [Avid-L2] Panasonic Varicam 35 AVC-Intra Native to Avid?
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 05:05 PM, Mark Spano wrote:
XAVC can be either Long-GOP or Intra-frame. It is usually designated (XAVC-I or XAVC-L). There's also XAVC-S, also Long-GOP, for budget cameras.Most likely Avid is giving you the choice of XAVC-I at those bit rates. Would be preposterous to have that high of a bit rate for Long-GOP, but I've been proven wrong before.It is almost always the case that whoever provides Avid the codec API either gives them the ability to read/copy (consolidate) ONLY, or the ability to read/copy/write. Many AMA plugins are written just like this, often with a 'buy-to-enable-write' functionality.So what does this all mean for you?Consolidate if you like and you will be making nice Avid MXF media of your media. Mix down to the codec of your choice - if it is a sufficiently high bit rate intra-frame codec, you won't be losing quality, as most of those are nearly lossless at high bit rates (DNxHD, DNxHR, ProRes HQ, etc.). You can mix down to XAVC-Intra, but I feel it's only worthwhile to do so if XAVC-Intra is part of your delivery codec requirements. Otherwise, I would advise (as I almost always do) to mix down to the codec you are delivering to, and output Same As Source.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 4:29 PM John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:Okay so it sounds like I am correct that the Panasonic Varicam 35 media is AVC-Intra, all contained in a single frame not long GOP, whereas XAVC is long GOP. So my main question still stands. When I go to do a video mixdown I don't see a choice to mixdown to AVC-Intra only XAVC at 320mbs or 480mbs. I would think if Avid can consolidate the Panasonic Media with handles then it would be considered a native codec to Avid. So why don't I see it as a choice for a video mixdown? Am I missing something?
My curiosity is wouldn't it be cleaner to mixdown to the same codec that the source material is to avoid some sort of recompression? The fact that I've done symphony color correction and the media is no longer just the OCN media might factor in. Would Avid's internal workings convert the AVC-Intra to baseband or something to process the color correction element and then convert that to whatever the render/mixdown codec is?
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 09:52 AM, Mark Spano wrote:
Guys, really? AVC-Intra is not Long-GOP, it's intraframe compression. AVCHD is Long-GOP, you might have been thinking of that.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:07 AM JBeck <jb30343@windstream.net> wrote:Wilson, I was trying to be generous but, yes. JB
Marcel,When JB wrote that "intra" is a "marketing term", I believe he is meant that the term is a contradiction or a falsehood, since "long GOP" necessarily means it's actually interframe, not intraframe.Wilson
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:00 AM Marcel B. <bncrcaxlr@gmail.com> wrote:intraframe means that all the coding is done within the frame as oppose
to interframe where the coding is done by calculating predictions values
base on already coded other pixels.
On 30/04/2020 09:45, JBeck wrote:
> Going completely from memory so I’m likely wrong but I think AVC-Intra
> is also long GOP. The “intra” is a marketing term. JB
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Panasonic Varicam 35 AVC-Intra Native to Avid?
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 05:05 PM, Mark Spano wrote:
XAVC can be either Long-GOP or Intra-frame. It is usually designated (XAVC-I or XAVC-L). There's also XAVC-S, also Long-GOP, for budget cameras.Most likely Avid is giving you the choice of XAVC-I at those bit rates. Would be preposterous to have that high of a bit rate for Long-GOP, but I've been proven wrong before.It is almost always the case that whoever provides Avid the codec API either gives them the ability to read/copy (consolidate) ONLY, or the ability to read/copy/write. Many AMA plugins are written just like this, often with a 'buy-to-enable-write' functionality.So what does this all mean for you?Consolidate if you like and you will be making nice Avid MXF media of your media. Mix down to the codec of your choice - if it is a sufficiently high bit rate intra-frame codec, you won't be losing quality, as most of those are nearly lossless at high bit rates (DNxHD, DNxHR, ProRes HQ, etc.). You can mix down to XAVC-Intra, but I feel it's only worthwhile to do so if XAVC-Intra is part of your delivery codec requirements. Otherwise, I would advise (as I almost always do) to mix down to the codec you are delivering to, and output Same As Source.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 4:29 PM John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:Okay so it sounds like I am correct that the Panasonic Varicam 35 media is AVC-Intra, all contained in a single frame not long GOP, whereas XAVC is long GOP. So my main question still stands. When I go to do a video mixdown I don't see a choice to mixdown to AVC-Intra only XAVC at 320mbs or 480mbs. I would think if Avid can consolidate the Panasonic Media with handles then it would be considered a native codec to Avid. So why don't I see it as a choice for a video mixdown? Am I missing something?
My curiosity is wouldn't it be cleaner to mixdown to the same codec that the source material is to avoid some sort of recompression? The fact that I've done symphony color correction and the media is no longer just the OCN media might factor in. Would Avid's internal workings convert the AVC-Intra to baseband or something to process the color correction element and then convert that to whatever the render/mixdown codec is?
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 09:52 AM, Mark Spano wrote:
Guys, really? AVC-Intra is not Long-GOP, it's intraframe compression. AVCHD is Long-GOP, you might have been thinking of that.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:07 AM JBeck <jb30343@windstream.net> wrote:Wilson, I was trying to be generous but, yes. JB
Marcel,When JB wrote that "intra" is a "marketing term", I believe he is meant that the term is a contradiction or a falsehood, since "long GOP" necessarily means it's actually interframe, not intraframe.Wilson
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:00 AM Marcel B. <bncrcaxlr@gmail.com> wrote:intraframe means that all the coding is done within the frame as oppose
to interframe where the coding is done by calculating predictions values
base on already coded other pixels.
On 30/04/2020 09:45, JBeck wrote:
> Going completely from memory so I’m likely wrong but I think AVC-Intra
> is also long GOP. The “intra” is a marketing term. JB
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Panasonic Varicam 35 AVC-Intra Native to Avid?
Okay so it sounds like I am correct that the Panasonic Varicam 35 media is AVC-Intra, all contained in a single frame not long GOP, whereas XAVC is long GOP. So my main question still stands. When I go to do a video mixdown I don't see a choice to mixdown to AVC-Intra only XAVC at 320mbs or 480mbs. I would think if Avid can consolidate the Panasonic Media with handles then it would be considered a native codec to Avid. So why don't I see it as a choice for a video mixdown? Am I missing something?
My curiosity is wouldn't it be cleaner to mixdown to the same codec that the source material is to avoid some sort of recompression? The fact that I've done symphony color correction and the media is no longer just the OCN media might factor in. Would Avid's internal workings convert the AVC-Intra to baseband or something to process the color correction element and then convert that to whatever the render/mixdown codec is?
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 09:52 AM, Mark Spano wrote:
Guys, really? AVC-Intra is not Long-GOP, it's intraframe compression. AVCHD is Long-GOP, you might have been thinking of that.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:07 AM JBeck <jb30343@windstream.net> wrote:Wilson, I was trying to be generous but, yes. JB
Marcel,When JB wrote that "intra" is a "marketing term", I believe he is meant that the term is a contradiction or a falsehood, since "long GOP" necessarily means it's actually interframe, not intraframe.Wilson
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:00 AM Marcel B. <bncrcaxlr@gmail.com> wrote:intraframe means that all the coding is done within the frame as oppose
to interframe where the coding is done by calculating predictions values
base on already coded other pixels.
On 30/04/2020 09:45, JBeck wrote:
> Going completely from memory so I'm likely wrong but I think AVC-Intra
> is also long GOP. The "intra" is a marketing term. JB
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Panasonic Varicam 35 AVC-Intra Native to Avid?
My curiosity is wouldn't it be cleaner to mixdown to the same codec that the source material is to avoid some sort of recompression? The fact that I've done symphony color correction and the media is no longer just the OCN media might factor in. Would Avid's internal workings convert the AVC-Intra to baseband or something to process the color correction element and then convert that to whatever the render/mixdown codec is?
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 09:52 AM, Mark Spano wrote:
Guys, really? AVC-Intra is not Long-GOP, it's intraframe compression. AVCHD is Long-GOP, you might have been thinking of that.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:07 AM JBeck <jb30343@windstream.net> wrote:Wilson, I was trying to be generous but, yes. JB
Marcel,When JB wrote that "intra" is a "marketing term", I believe he is meant that the term is a contradiction or a falsehood, since "long GOP" necessarily means it's actually interframe, not intraframe.Wilson
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:00 AM Marcel B. <bncrcaxlr@gmail.com> wrote:intraframe means that all the coding is done within the frame as oppose
to interframe where the coding is done by calculating predictions values
base on already coded other pixels.
On 30/04/2020 09:45, JBeck wrote:
> Going completely from memory so I’m likely wrong but I think AVC-Intra
> is also long GOP. The “intra” is a marketing term. JB
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] MC on Catalina?
On Apr 30, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Roger via groups.io <rogershuff=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:Pretty good although I have logged a few issues. Look on the Avid Mac forum. Overall - fast and good to use with some caveats related to the 2019-2020 UI and 3rd part issues. If you don't have to run Catalina. stay off. 2020.4 will run on earlier OSs.With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660On Thursday, 30 April 2020, 16:04:17 BST, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:Is anyone running MC 2020.4 on Catalina? And, if so, how's it going?Thanks,DD
Re: [Avid-L2] MC on Catalina?
Re: [Avid-L2] Panasonic Varicam 35 AVC-Intra Native to Avid?
Wilson, I was trying to be generous but, yes. JBMarcel,When JB wrote that "intra" is a "marketing term", I believe he is meant that the term is a contradiction or a falsehood, since "long GOP" necessarily means it's actually interframe, not intraframe.WilsonOn Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:00 AM Marcel B. <bncrcaxlr@gmail.com> wrote:intraframe means that all the coding is done within the frame as oppose
to interframe where the coding is done by calculating predictions values
base on already coded other pixels.
On 30/04/2020 09:45, JBeck wrote:
> Going completely from memory so I'm likely wrong but I think AVC-Intra
> is also long GOP. The "intra" is a marketing term. JB
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] MC on Catalina?
On Apr 30, 2020, at 8:03 AM, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:Is anyone running MC 2020.4 on Catalina? And, if so, how's it going?Thanks,DD
Re: [Avid-L2] Panasonic Varicam 35 AVC-Intra Native to Avid?
Marcel,When JB wrote that "intra" is a "marketing term", I believe he is meant that the term is a contradiction or a falsehood, since "long GOP" necessarily means it's actually interframe, not intraframe.WilsonOn Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:00 AM Marcel B. <bncrcaxlr@gmail.com> wrote:intraframe means that all the coding is done within the frame as oppose
to interframe where the coding is done by calculating predictions values
base on already coded other pixels.
On 30/04/2020 09:45, JBeck wrote:
> Going completely from memory so I'm likely wrong but I think AVC-Intra
> is also long GOP. The "intra" is a marketing term. JB
>
>
[Avid-L2] MC on Catalina?
Re: [Avid-L2] Panasonic Varicam 35 AVC-Intra Native to Avid?
Crawlling back under my retirement.
Marcel
Marcel,
When JB wrote that "intra" is a "marketing term", I believe he is meant that the term is a contradiction or a falsehood, since "long GOP" necessarily means it's actually interframe, not intraframe.
Wilson
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:00 AM Marcel B. <bncrcaxlr@gmail.com> wrote:
intraframe means that all the coding is done within the frame as oppose
to interframe where the coding is done by calculating predictions values
base on already coded other pixels.
On 30/04/2020 09:45, JBeck wrote:
> Going completely from memory so I'm likely wrong but I think AVC-Intra
> is also long GOP. The "intra" is a marketing term. JB
>
>
