Saturday, November 27, 2010

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: 50 FPS

 

Answers inline...

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:57 AM, trevatpc <trevatpc@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> So if you could have a 50fps project it would play at 'normal / as-live'
> speed
>

You can have a 50 fps project. 720p/50

> But in a 25fps project it'll have a 200% motion adapter applied to make it
> 'as-live' speed ?
>

Correct.

> And removing that motion adapter will give you 'half real speed /
> slow-motion' playback?
>

You can't remove it. You can change it to play at another speed. Since the
sequence determines the frame rate of playback, any non-native clip has to
have a motion adapter applied to it - even if it is later modified to match
the initial frame rate (playback @ 100%).

> But beware 'refresh motion adapters' as it'll then put the 200% effect back
> on?
>

Since you can't take it off, only modify it, the refresh sequence command
will obey the new setting. (Nothing changes.) Once you promote the default
adapter to a Timewarp, it won't get refreshed.

> Does applying a 100% motion effect to that clip (50fps in 25fps project)
> mean that 'refresh motion adapters' will not make any further changes (other
> than interlaced/progressive inputs/outputs are amended)? It certainly
> behaves that way with off-speed effects applied.
>

As stated above. That's exactly what happens when you modify the initial
adapter.

>
> Frank is there any way of disabling or removing motion adapters from a
> sequence?
>

No. It's how Media Composer handles mixed frame rate sources in a sequence.

> I can see how they are useful when mixing frame rates but I don't seen the
> advantage of putting a 100% interlaced output motion effect on a clip that
> has been assigned 'progressive' in an interlaced project - it's effectively
> doing nothing as far as I can make out.
>

Not quite true. It's taking a full frame and using it as a single field -
half the resolution.

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[Avid-L2] Re: 50 FPS

 



So if you could have a 50fps project it would play at 'normal / as-live' speed

But in a 25fps project it'll have a 200% motion adapter applied to make it 'as-live' speed ?

And removing that motion adapter will give you 'half real speed / slow-motion' playback?

But beware 'refresh motion adapters' as it'll then put the 200% effect back on?

Does applying a 100% motion effect to that clip (50fps in 25fps project) mean that 'refresh motion adapters' will not make any further changes (other than interlaced/progressive inputs/outputs are amended)? It certainly behaves that way with off-speed effects applied.

Frank is there any way of disabling or removing motion adapters from a sequence?

I can see how they are useful when mixing frame rates but I don't seen the advantage of putting a 100% interlaced output motion effect on a clip that has been assigned 'progressive' in an interlaced project - it's effectively doing nothing as far as I can make out.

Trevor

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Frank Capria <frank@...> wrote:
>
> When linking via AMA, the clip will maintain its stated timecode. Once
> placed in a sequence a motion adapter will be used to play it at the
> sequence frame rate.
>
>
> Frank Capria
> (508) 709 9212
> www.capria.tv
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>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Nigel Gourley <
> avid-l@...> wrote:
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> > HI there,
> >
> >
> >
> > How does 50 FPS or any other non standard rate work with AMA? So If we have
> > a 50FPS QT that's going into a 25FPS project what happens? And what happens
> > to the timecode? And if we consolidate to DNx does the linking back still
> > work?
> >
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> > Thanks
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Friday, November 26, 2010

Re: [Avid-L2] 50 FPS

 

When linking via AMA, the clip will maintain its stated timecode. Once
placed in a sequence a motion adapter will be used to play it at the
sequence frame rate.

Frank Capria
(508) 709 9212
www.capria.tv

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Nigel Gourley <
avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk> wrote:

> HI there,
>
>
>
> How does 50 FPS or any other non standard rate work with AMA? So If we have
> a 50FPS QT that's going into a 25FPS project what happens? And what happens
> to the timecode? And if we consolidate to DNx does the linking back still
> work?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> N
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RE: [Avid-L2] Happy Thanksgiving

 

>I for one am thankful for all my mates on the L. :-)

Ditto Terry but man that was a lousy Saints game against Dallas. Even all
the turkey and yams couldn't keep me calm...

Tom McDonnell
Los Angeles, CA
New Orleans, LA

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Re : [Avid-L2] Keyboard shift-key crashing?

 

I try it, and nothing. All is allright.

Bye
 
Thomasset Ghislain
French avid trainer
Tel : 06 23 16 50 52

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Objet : [Avid-L2] Keyboard shift-key crashing?

 
Having an odd problem that we're trying to trouble shoot within our building.
Can anyone re-create this crash?

Media Composer or Symphony v5.03.5
- new project
- new user settings
- new sequence, add a clip from anywhere
- press SHIFT-2 (or SHIFT-3 or SHIFT-U) on the keyboard
- now click and move anywhere on the timeline

Lock-up and crash?

We've done the usual voodoo, new settings, trash databases and MCState. Trying
to figure out if it's the software or any background software we have running.

Thanks,
Bruce Rees
www.ppd.ca

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[Avid-L2] Keyboard shift-key crashing?

 

Having an odd problem that we're trying to trouble shoot within our building. Can anyone re-create this crash?

Media Composer or Symphony v5.03.5
- new project
- new user settings
- new sequence, add a clip from anywhere
- press SHIFT-2 (or SHIFT-3 or SHIFT-U) on the keyboard
- now click and move anywhere on the timeline

Lock-up and crash?

We've done the usual voodoo, new settings, trash databases and MCState. Trying to figure out if it's the software or any background software we have running.

Thanks,
Bruce Rees
www.ppd.ca

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Thursday, November 25, 2010

Re: [Avid-L2] The annual Turducken thread may now begin

 

<http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/move-over-turducken-turbaconepic-is-here/article1813473/>

Or for the resurgence of bacon lovers who do not worry about cholesterol...

Move over, turducken: TurBaconEpic is here - The Globe and Mail
<http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/move-over-turducken-turbaconepic-is-here/article1813473/>

DD

On 11/25/2010 10:18 AM, Multimediac wrote:
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> Here is Turducken for people who don't care about diabetes:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp4yWTLIPaE
>
> Happy Thanksgiving!
> george
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Re: [Avid-L2] Happy Thanksgiving

 


Dear List;
Thank you all for your wisdom and advice all these years....
have a great holiday!
Susan Perla

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[Avid-L2] 50 FPS

 

HI there,

How does 50 FPS or any other non standard rate work with AMA? So If we have
a 50FPS QT that's going into a 25FPS project what happens? And what happens
to the timecode? And if we consolidate to DNx does the linking back still
work?

Thanks

N

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[Avid-L2] Re: Happy Thanksgiving

 

Happy T-day to all and for those who hate cleaning up after the big meal Rubin is available to rinse the dishes puppy style. ;-)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Wilson Chao <wilsonchao@...> wrote:
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> Hear, hear!
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> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Terence Curren <tcurren@...> wrote:
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RE: [Avid-L2] delete when not logged into interplay

 

Interplay 2.2 and MC 5.0.6 (yes I got the note about the .6 patch coming
down.... grrrrrr)

These are not really AMA bins though. If you turn off AMA automounting
you can just do "link to AMA file" and point to the QuickTime file or
what have you and it shows up in your bin. It's pure magic, we've been
waiting a lifetime for that function. And the irony is that you cannot
check them into Interplay ("AMA clips cannot be checked into Interplay")
for obvious reasons. But I can't delete them from that bin when I'm done
with them.

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Lawson
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:08 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] delete when not logged into interplay

I haven't worked much with AMA.
But AMA "bins" aren't really bins as we know them. I know you can't
check AMA clips into Interplay. I'll have to experiment.
What version of Editor/Interplay are you running?

---
Rob Lawson
System Administrator, ACSR ISIS, Windows & Interplay CBS News

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Mathew Sherman
<Mathew.Sherman@ctv.ca>wrote:

>
>
> Yeah that's what I've been doing. But I figure for AMA clips that
> don't even involve media, I should be able to remove them from my bin
> without Interplay....
>
> Matt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> Robert Lawson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:54 PM
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] delete when not logged into interplay
>
> Not a bug. You need to disconnect from Interplay entirely. Stop your
> framework services and try again.
>
> On 11/24/10, Mathew Sherman
> <Mathew.Sherman@ctv.ca<Mathew.Sherman%40ctv.ca>>
> wrote:
> > Why can I not delete clips from my bin (even AMA clips!) when I am
> > not
>
> > logged into Interplay!? This must be a bug, right?
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
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