Saturday, September 6, 2014

Re: [Avid-L2] Phantom Camera .cine files ama Glue Tools?

 

Thanks for the info.  Would Resolve 9 do this or do I have to load Resolve 10?  I have it downloaded but haven't installed it yet.  The Phantom is shooting high speed footage.  What determines how the high speed is handled?  Is it just already established in the .cine file how it will be converted to 29.97 media or is there adjustments that have to be made.  Also is there a Phantom LUT I can download, I don't recall seeing one built into the Resolve?

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Re: [Avid-L2] OTish: BBC and X

 

"Hopefully, with the new subscription model, 

with updates being released more frequently, 
we'll see that more of users' recommendations, feature requests, etc.
come to be realized."

Are You being sarcastic? The subscription model is not new anymore, we've had for quite a few months now, and haven't seen meaningful updates.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Phantom Camera .cine files ama Glue Tools?

 

I always resolve convert them even if you can open them in avid or FCP they look awful without a lut.

Mike

On 7 Sep, 2014, at 10:07 am, "Michael Hancock mhancockeditor@gmail.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

You should be able to run them through Resolve Lite to generate Avid media. And glue tools has a demo AMA plugin you can test, don't they?  

Michael

On Sep 6, 2014, at 11:01 PM, "John Moore bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I see Glue Tools has ama plugin for Avid and Phantom Camera files .cine.  The web site lists Avid ver. 7.  Anybody know if this would work with Ver. 6.5.4?  Also are there other alternatives for getting Phantom files into Avid?
 
John Moore
Barking Trout Productions
Studio City, CA
bigfish@pacbell.net

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Re: [Avid-L2] OTish: BBC and X

 

On Sep 6, 2014, at 2:52 PM, David Dodson davidadodson@sbcglobal.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Out of curiosity, what is it about Avid that's making things so difficult in your shop?

That's a very complicated question. The very oversimplified answer is that Avid's strengths in customization and high-end workflows are of questionable value to us, while its weakness in ease of use have made many simple things more complicated. In short, Media Composer has decreased our productivity and I'm not confident this can be made up over time.

One good example of this is AMA linking, as already mentioned in this thread. Importing everything made perfect sense in a tape based world but not in a file based one. The vast majority of our raw footage comes to us in editable form. Transcoding is rarely useful to us. Media Composer is still way behind on file linking. Many functions of MC still do not work with AMA at all. AAF exports being one big one. You want to get your AMA linked sequence out of Avid, you must transcode. 

Our project organization relies on drive level organization in files and folders. You cannot import this organization nor organize bins hierarchically to reflect such organization. I can't tell you how much this frustrates me. The ability to put bins in folders does not cut it. And while I'm at it, why do I have to have a bin open to drag clips into it? 

Audio mixing in the timeline is a good example of a pervasive problem, feature bloat. Powerful, yes, but so bloody complicated. What the hell happened here? I'm still struggling trying to control the audio in my timeline after 6 months. Am I in "Clip" mode or "Auto" mode? Is this volume or gain? Why can't I add volume to this clip? Do I really need 100 keyframes for a 3 second fade?Why does MC sometimes ignores the volume settings making me look bad in front of the producers? Why can't I get any pan controls to work for this track? I mix in the timeline constantly. I need this to be better.

Media Composer has finally learned to link directly to still images, but manipulating them is complicated and buggy compared to other NLEs. This sounds like a small thing, but still images are very important to our documentary workflows. I am spending about four times as much time on every image now. Slug the clip. Drop the effect. Load the file. Wait. What was the file called? Dammit. Why does the file look so blurry? Oh, because it's not 72dpi. Well, of course it's not 72dpi. It is 2014 after all.

I am NOT saying MC is a bad NLE or that I hate it. It is an amazing and powerful product. But when that power is not needed, it's often in the way of just getting the job done quickly and efficiently.

Cheers,
                 tod

















DD


On Sep 6, 2014, at 11:35 AM, hoplist@hillmanncarr.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Of course, that's also true for many of the Avid haters out there concerning Avid. They misunderstand it and fail to properly use its power.

I truly hope Avid is not dismissing the "Avid Haters."  

I have been using FCP 7 for the past 6 years, but I used MC for the prior two decades and loved it.  I've tried hard to make Media Composer work for my facility. It has been a thrash. Even after investing in four new Avid workstations, I am ready to give FCP X another serious try.

Cheers,
                  tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.










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Re: [Avid-L2] Phantom Camera .cine files ama Glue Tools?

 

You should be able to run them through Resolve Lite to generate Avid media. And glue tools has a demo AMA plugin you can test, don't they?  

Michael

On Sep 6, 2014, at 11:01 PM, "John Moore bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I see Glue Tools has ama plugin for Avid and Phantom Camera files .cine.  The web site lists Avid ver. 7.  Anybody know if this would work with Ver. 6.5.4?  Also are there other alternatives for getting Phantom files into Avid?
 
John Moore
Barking Trout Productions
Studio City, CA
bigfish@pacbell.net

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[Avid-L2] Phantom Camera .cine files ama Glue Tools?

 

I see Glue Tools has ama plugin for Avid and Phantom Camera files .cine.  The web site lists Avid ver. 7.  Anybody know if this would work with Ver. 6.5.4?  Also are there other alternatives for getting Phantom files into Avid?
 
John Moore
Barking Trout Productions
Studio City, CA
bigfish@pacbell.net

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[Avid-L2] Mysterious Message

 

I am cutting some AVCHD footage on my MC 7.03 machine with Mavericks.
I'm getting repeated stalls with the message
SF Play Consumer: Execute TIMEOUT. Occasionally the program just dumps
out completely. Any info would be appreciated.
Jon

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Re: [Avid-L2] [FR] Source Use Identification + Match Frame Enhancement

 


That would be the super-awesomest thing ever, Ben.

DD


On Sep 6, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Benjamin Hershleder Ben@ContactBen.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



TO:
Avid-L2 gang and the
Avid Engineers that quietly lurk the "L2"

Cc:
Others at The Avid Mothership


I know I suggested this many years ago, but I still think 
it would be helpful. I'd love to be able to load a clip 
into the Source Window and enable/disable the ability to see
what portions from that clip are in the sequence, and where.
Something like this comes to mind:

Additionally, it would be valuable to be able to modify the 
Match Frame feature (maybe with Shift+Opt/Alt) so that
when the originating clip is loaded into the Source Window,
that there are In and Out Marks that represent the 
beginning and end of that Segment in the Timeline.

Cheers,

Benjamin
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Benjamin Hershleder






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[Avid-L2] [FR] Source Use Identification + Match Frame Enhancement

 



TO:
Avid-L2 gang and the
Avid Engineers that quietly lurk the "L2"

Cc:
Others at The Avid Mothership


I know I suggested this many years ago, but I still think 
it would be helpful. I'd love to be able to load a clip 
into the Source Window and enable/disable the ability to see
what portions from that clip are in the sequence, and where.
Something like this comes to mind:

Additionally, it would be valuable to be able to modify the 
Match Frame feature (maybe with Shift+Opt/Alt) so that
when the originating clip is loaded into the Source Window,
that there are In and Out Marks that represent the 
beginning and end of that Segment in the Timeline.

Cheers,

Benjamin
----
Benjamin Hershleder



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Re: [Avid-L2] OTish: BBC and X

 


On Sep 6, 2014, at 12:33 PM, "'Job ter Burg (L2B)' Job_L2@terburg.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


I truly wish they would not be dismissing the "Avid Lovers". 

Yep, they still have competition, and should not 
fall back into some of the behaviors/attitudes from the past.

Hopefully, with the new subscription model, 
with updates being released more frequently, 
we'll see that more of users' recommendations, feature requests, etc.
come to be realized.

Fingers crossed for good things in MC version 8.2


Cheers,

-B




On 6 sep. 2014, at 20:35, hoplist@hillmanncarr.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I truly hope Avid is not dismissing the "Avid Haters."  



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Re: [Avid-L2] OTish: BBC and X

 


I truly wish they would not be dismissing the "Avid Lovers". 

On 6 sep. 2014, at 20:35, hoplist@hillmanncarr.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I truly hope Avid is not dismissing the "Avid Haters."  

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Re: [Avid-L2] OTish: BBC and X

 


Out of curiosity, what is it about Avid that's making things so difficult in your shop?

DD


On Sep 6, 2014, at 11:35 AM, hoplist@hillmanncarr.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Of course, that's also true for many of the Avid haters out there concerning Avid. They misunderstand it and fail to properly use its power.

I truly hope Avid is not dismissing the "Avid Haters."  

I have been using FCP 7 for the past 6 years, but I used MC for the prior two decades and loved it.  I've tried hard to make Media Composer work for my facility. It has been a thrash. Even after investing in four new Avid workstations, I am ready to give FCP X another serious try.

Cheers,
                  tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.








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