Saturday, August 17, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: "Source" icon missing suffix, AAF metadata wont linked to essence in Resolve 9

 

I'm confused if I have an avid sequence that has media offline in it I wouldn't expect an aaf exported from Avid to Resolve to suddenly find media that was offline in the first place in Avid. I do know that when I've got a sequence in Avid and I've linked all the Red Raw files through ama and linked the sequence to them by adding a tape name the resulting aaf from Avid to Resolve will link to the Red Raw files in Resolve without using Reel Names to assist. But if I haven't linked to ama the Red Raw and relinked the sequence in Avid the aaf won't work. This is a dicey pain in the arse because on the project I've been banging on the ama linked Red Epic Files would not automatically relink ama the next time the project was launched so each time I started the Avid Project I would have to manually relink by ama volume each of the Red Epic Raw volumes and go through all the Avid relinking steps to export an aaf to Resolve that would know to link to the Red Raw files.

Also when you add a suffix what kind of suffix do you add? Is it like a .new01 thing or something completely different?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "scott_freeman_avid" <scott_freeman_avid@...> wrote:
>
> The DaVinci Resolve 9 exhibits a non-working linking situation.
>
> If you have an Avid with "Media Offline" messages and you then export an AAF with "Source" icons that do not have a suffix in their name. The AAF is useless. This AAF will never link to the media pool.
>
>
> I am so happy to discover this so I can have complete control over my AAF export and Resolve 9. I suspect this is a Resolve 9 issue only.
>
> - scott freeman
> (818) 657-9490
> I love this stuff
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> >
> > So you have an avid timeline that all the media is online and you export an aaf with it linked to media not embedded then when you import that aaf into Resolve 9 you have some of the sequence offline. Am I understanding this correctly so far? By "Orphaned Container Metadata" do you mean that there are clips in the media pool that don't have media linked to them. Are these clips that were generated automatically when importing the aaf or are they from populating the media pool with media before importing the aaf? Are the missing clips stills or some sort of media type that differs from the other clips that are working? I've notice things like stills a wonky including color bars. My guess for the stills is that Avid only generates one frame of media and then uses flags in Avid to let it appear to have a longer duration. When this media is imported into Resolves media pool there is only one valid frame of essence so the first frame of color bars is there but the rest of the say 30 second clip is black.
> >
> > The solution of adding a suffix to the source icon name is done before exporting the aaf from Avid if I follow your proceedure. Fun stuff as always.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "scott_freeman_avid" <scott_freeman_avid@> wrote:
> > >
> > > well, I am getting closer with understanding this Resolve 9 timeline with orphan container metadata that will not link to essence (the media pool) in Resolve 9 using an AAF that was created when the metadata was not linking to essence (media offline messages in the Avid). It turns out that if you have clips that do not have a suffix in the name of the "Source" icon, then the above it true. I have discovered by adding a suffix to the "Source" icon name in the Avid before creating AAFs will avoid the Resolve 9 orphan container activity. I still need to figure out why "Source" icon names that do not contain a suffix exhibit this metadata that will not link to essence in Resolve 9 using an AAF.
> > >
> > > - scott freeman
> > >
> >
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[Avid-L2] Re: "Source" icon missing suffix, AAF metadata wont linked to essence in Resolve 9

 

The DaVinci Resolve 9 exhibits a non-working linking situation.

If you have an Avid with "Media Offline" messages and you then export an AAF with "Source" icons that do not have a suffix in their name. The AAF is useless. This AAF will never link to the media pool.

I am so happy to discover this so I can have complete control over my AAF export and Resolve 9. I suspect this is a Resolve 9 issue only.

- scott freeman
(818) 657-9490
I love this stuff

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
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> So you have an avid timeline that all the media is online and you export an aaf with it linked to media not embedded then when you import that aaf into Resolve 9 you have some of the sequence offline. Am I understanding this correctly so far? By "Orphaned Container Metadata" do you mean that there are clips in the media pool that don't have media linked to them. Are these clips that were generated automatically when importing the aaf or are they from populating the media pool with media before importing the aaf? Are the missing clips stills or some sort of media type that differs from the other clips that are working? I've notice things like stills a wonky including color bars. My guess for the stills is that Avid only generates one frame of media and then uses flags in Avid to let it appear to have a longer duration. When this media is imported into Resolves media pool there is only one valid frame of essence so the first frame of color bars is there but the rest of the say 30 second clip is black.
>
> The solution of adding a suffix to the source icon name is done before exporting the aaf from Avid if I follow your proceedure. Fun stuff as always.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "scott_freeman_avid" <scott_freeman_avid@> wrote:
> >
> > well, I am getting closer with understanding this Resolve 9 timeline with orphan container metadata that will not link to essence (the media pool) in Resolve 9 using an AAF that was created when the metadata was not linking to essence (media offline messages in the Avid). It turns out that if you have clips that do not have a suffix in the name of the "Source" icon, then the above it true. I have discovered by adding a suffix to the "Source" icon name in the Avid before creating AAFs will avoid the Resolve 9 orphan container activity. I still need to figure out why "Source" icon names that do not contain a suffix exhibit this metadata that will not link to essence in Resolve 9 using an AAF.
> >
> > - scott freeman
> >
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: [resolve-l] Proper Capture/Monitor Card for Resolve on MacPro with SNDX?

Just about any of their cards work with Resolve.

But your monitoring will be limited to the format supported by the output
card. So pick the solution that meets your monitoring needs (including
frame rates).

- pi


On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 8:49 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> So I'm thinking of getting a GeForce CTX-680 and a black magic video card
> to monitor sdi to my scope when in Resolve. The configuration guide for
> Resolve says deckline Extreme 3D. I see they have a deckline Extreme 4K,
> which is what we have in our work setup. Will any decklink card work like
> the monitor mini? The config guide mentions capture card a lot and then in
> the shopping list all I see is decklink Extreme 3D. I don't need 4K at
> home just a way to get to my scope and OLED monitor. I might be working
> with Double HD almost 4K so I wouldn't expect real time playback but just
> to be able to monitor externally is what I'm looking for.
>
> John Moore
> Barking Trout Productions
> Studio City, CA
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[Avid-L2] Proper Capture/Monitor Card for Resolve on MacPro with SNDX?

 

So I'm thinking of getting a GeForce CTX-680 and a black magic video card to monitor sdi to my scope when in Resolve.  The configuration guide for Resolve says deckline Extreme 3D.  I see they have a deckline Extreme 4K, which is what we have in our work setup.  Will any decklink card work like the monitor mini?  The config guide mentions capture card a lot and then in the shopping list all I see is decklink Extreme 3D.  I don't need 4K at home just a way to get to my scope and OLED monitor.  I might be working with Double HD almost 4K so I wouldn't expect real time playback but just to be able to monitor externally is what I'm looking for.

 
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[Avid-L2] Re: "Source" icon missing suffix, AAF metadata wont linked to essence in Resolve 9

 

So you have an avid timeline that all the media is online and you export an aaf with it linked to media not embedded then when you import that aaf into Resolve 9 you have some of the sequence offline. Am I understanding this correctly so far? By "Orphaned Container Metadata" do you mean that there are clips in the media pool that don't have media linked to them. Are these clips that were generated automatically when importing the aaf or are they from populating the media pool with media before importing the aaf? Are the missing clips stills or some sort of media type that differs from the other clips that are working? I've notice things like stills a wonky including color bars. My guess for the stills is that Avid only generates one frame of media and then uses flags in Avid to let it appear to have a longer duration. When this media is imported into Resolves media pool there is only one valid frame of essence so the first frame of color bars is there but the rest of the say 30 second clip is black.

The solution of adding a suffix to the source icon name is done before exporting the aaf from Avid if I follow your proceedure. Fun stuff as always.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "scott_freeman_avid" <scott_freeman_avid@...> wrote:
>
> well, I am getting closer with understanding this Resolve 9 timeline with orphan container metadata that will not link to essence (the media pool) in Resolve 9 using an AAF that was created when the metadata was not linking to essence (media offline messages in the Avid). It turns out that if you have clips that do not have a suffix in the name of the "Source" icon, then the above it true. I have discovered by adding a suffix to the "Source" icon name in the Avid before creating AAFs will avoid the Resolve 9 orphan container activity. I still need to figure out why "Source" icon names that do not contain a suffix exhibit this metadata that will not link to essence in Resolve 9 using an AAF.
>
> - scott freeman
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Mac preferences question...

 

Have to say that I tend to keep my desktop items to a minimum, and that my screens are usually rather filled with Avid bins and tools, so I as long as any other apps are minimized (using Hide Others), I don't see anything but MC items. Working PC's and Macs, equally comfortable on both.

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> Thanks Job! Desktop icons too?

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Mac preferences question...

 

do a Google search for OSX full screen

Jay

On Aug 17, 2013, at 11:49 AM, ripvanmarlowe2000 wrote:

> I mostly work on PCs when I'm freelancing, that's what most of the places I work at are using. Something that has always bothered me about macs is the way that programs don't have a background - as in, I can see the desktop behind the various windows of whatever program I'm using. I often find that because I'm an infrequent user, I'll do something like click somewhere in the background, then try a shortcut for the program, but it won't work because the finder is active or something similar.
> It just feels really messy and I hate seeing icons from the desktop peeking through in to the program I'm using. Is there any way around this? Any preference setting that allows things to look a little more self-contained?
>
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RE: [Avid-L2] OT: Mac preferences question...

Thanks Job! Desktop icons too?

Andi


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> I mostly work on PCs when I'm freelancing, that's what most of the places I work at are using. Something that has always bothered me about macs is the way that programs don't have a background - as in, I can see the desktop behind the various windows of whatever program I'm using. I often find that because I'm an infrequent user, I'll do something like click somewhere in the background, then try a shortcut for the program, but it won't work because the finder is active or something similar.

> It just feels really messy and I hate seeing icons from the desktop peeking through in to the program I'm using. Is there any way around this? Any preference setting that allows things to look a little more self-contained?



















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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Mac preferences question...

 


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On 17 aug. 2013, at 18:49, ripvanmarlowe2000 <kwikpasta@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I mostly work on PCs when I'm freelancing, that's what most of the places I work at are using. Something that has always bothered me about macs is the way that programs don't have a background - as in, I can see the desktop behind the various windows of whatever program I'm using. I often find that because I'm an infrequent user, I'll do something like click somewhere in the background, then try a shortcut for the program, but it won't work because the finder is active or something similar.
> It just feels really messy and I hate seeing icons from the desktop peeking through in to the program I'm using. Is there any way around this? Any preference setting that allows things to look a little more self-contained?

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[Avid-L2] OT: Mac preferences question...

 

I mostly work on PCs when I'm freelancing, that's what most of the places I work at are using. Something that has always bothered me about macs is the way that programs don't have a background - as in, I can see the desktop behind the various windows of whatever program I'm using. I often find that because I'm an infrequent user, I'll do something like click somewhere in the background, then try a shortcut for the program, but it won't work because the finder is active or something similar.
It just feels really messy and I hate seeing icons from the desktop peeking through in to the program I'm using. Is there any way around this? Any preference setting that allows things to look a little more self-contained?

Cheers,
Andi

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[Avid-L2] Re: Good news for our New York folks

 


Goes to show what happens when you get everyone understanding the goals of incentives. Too many people in our state see the tax incentives as "cutting checks to those Hollywood types" and don't care to look any farther.

I think Georgia is also kicking ass in production and post and is another good example of a unified vision and plan.

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[Avid-L2] Re: ProRes QT Pro Export from Avid QT Ref?

 

yo, sounds like you are having some tape-less fun. First of all from what I have seen in the Avid if you output a quicktime reference movie that links to Avid .mxf media, then choose Color Levels 601/709 on export. Since the file is a Quicktime wrapper that links to Avid native codec essence. I have seen these Quicktime files shift the Gamma upon using AMA. For Avid Native codec files that were created using an Avid, I would activate Fast Import mode by selecting in the Avid input settings "601 SD or 709 HD", and then use File>Import for Avid codec files. Now (on 6.5), I have noticed that the only way I can get multi-channel audio (more then 4 tracks) embedded into a quicktime movie to work (meaning no white noise on tracks) is using an Avid native codec.

I hope this is helpful.

When I use the Avid to export a self contained ProResHQ codec quicktime movie I choose RGB in the export settings (Warning, RGB exports from the Avid clip the pludge pattern).

Also quicktime movies exported from a 23.976 1080p Avid project, the last frame is hidden in Resolve 9 and Final Cut Pro 7. After Effects and Avid can access the last frame fine. For Resolve 9 I have been using uncompressed 10bit mxf files from the Avid (Digitizing Tapes). I have not seen any errors so far with uncompressed 10bit mxf files.

- scott freeman

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> I thought I had a workable workflow for taking a multichannel Avid QT ref export into QT Pro 7.6.6 and exporting a ProResHQ 422 file without major gamma shift.  I still think that works pretty well but I noticed that when I exported the 10 second slate white type over black as a QT Ref from Avid DNX 220 sequence the reference movie looked a little washed out on the computer screen, which I would expect due to the 601/709 16-235 levels from the Avid ref QT set to 601/709 on the export options.  Then when I export it from QT Pro to a self contained Prores HQ 422 the resulting movie shows RGB like black levels on the computer screen.  AMA linking back to both the reference movie and the prores self contained movie in Avid and both look correct in level and other than a slight gamma difference they are correct.  So the video essence is the same in both files but once exported to prores QT player stretches the video level on desktop playback.  Not
> surprising I guess just an observation. 
>
>
> This was all brought about when I was checking previously exported files that are required to have the bars and tone as a separate file and I found the bars files for previous shows I didn't work on didn't match the program files.  Ultimately it was the Avid bars had been imported at the wrong level so the resulting file exports for bars were at the wrong level and I figured it was due to Prores QT crap but in this case it was properly representing the incorrect level of bars just as they were originally wrong in Avid.  How do you miss that?  Man it's time to start taking names and whacking pee pees.  ;-)
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Friday, August 16, 2013

[Avid-L2] "Source" icon missing suffix, AAF metadata wont linked to essence in Resolve 9

 

well, I am getting closer with understanding this Resolve 9 timeline with orphan container metadata that will not link to essence (the media pool) in Resolve 9 using an AAF that was created when the metadata was not linking to essence (media offline messages in the Avid). It turns out that if you have clips that do not have a suffix in the name of the "Source" icon, then the above it true. I have discovered by adding a suffix to the "Source" icon name in the Avid before creating AAFs will avoid the Resolve 9 orphan container activity. I still need to figure out why "Source" icon names that do not contain a suffix exhibit this metadata that will not link to essence in Resolve 9 using an AAF.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Drone danger (Was: Drone shorter link)

 

> Photographer Flies His Drone Camera Into the Groom's Head During a Bridal Shoot

Drones in cinematography as well as the pertaining safety issues have been discussed in great detail (too much detail actually) on CML-chat.  I won't repeat any of it here. Search through the archives to learn more.

I'll just say that those of us who have been in model aviation for some time (in my case thirty to forty years, depending on when you start counting) are horrified at how these things are being used.  No experienced RC pilot would ever consider some of the things I've seen people do unless they have a serious screw loose in their heads.  

Why?  Because experienced modelers have seen it all.  We know just how easy it is to crash and have accidents.  These things are toys.  Repeat: toys.  They are NOT professional tools.  The cost of the rig is irrelevant.  I've crashed $15,000 planes and $6,000 helicopters.  Toys.  Expensive, but toys.  They are not designed for professional mission-critical use.

A lot of the people using them to shoot photos or video simply don't have enough experience and knowledge to fully understand what they are doing and the risks they are entering into (or causing).

At some level it really angers me because these idiots are going to cause the FAA to clamp down on model aviation.  All we need is one or two good accidents and things will change.  In the end those who have dedicated decades to learning and have done so responsibly, within the law and in the confines of approved flying sites (clubs, mostly) will suffer the consequences of the reckless application of these machines.

-Martin Euredjian

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