Saturday, December 29, 2012
Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Fwd: Video Interview with Terence Curren of AlphaDogs
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On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 1:54 PM, oliverpetersvidy <
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> > Tony Quinsee-Jover wrote:
> > Nahhh... There ain't nothing Phony 'bout DS ;)
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> When do we take the act on the road ;-)
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> - Oliver
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[Avid-L2] Happy New Year To All
Dear L,
Just wanted to wish everybody a safe, happy and prosperous new year.
I know at times it feels like our lives are controlled by others but it's
important to remember that We, You, I all have free will and ultimately
control of our lives. Here's to positive thinking, rejection of negative
thoughts and most important of all, family.
Thank you all for the advice, laughter and friendships over the years. Let's
make 2013 even better.
All The Best and Happy New Year,
Tom
Tom McDonnell
Cinematographer/Operator/Editor
Weisscam Hi-Speed Tech
Los Angeles, CA
New Orleans, LA
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: What's your best Avid Tip/Discovery from 2012?
On Dec 29, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Terence Curren wrote:
> Starting with 6.5.2:
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> Holding the Alt key (Windows) or Option key (Macintosh) while selecting the Select Left, Select Right, or Select In/Out button will exclude filler from the selection.
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Good one Terry.
I will add that ASAP to the keyboard shortcuts list:
http://tinyurl.com/avidshortcuts
Cheers,
B
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[Avid-L2] Re: Fwd: Video Interview with Terence Curren of AlphaDogs
> Tony Quinsee-Jover wrote:
> Nahhh... There ain't nothing Phony 'bout DS ;)
When do we take the act on the road ;-)
- Oliver
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Fwd: Video Interview with Terence Curren of AlphaDogs
Nahhh... There ain't nothing Phony 'bout DS ;)
Sent by magic over t'interweb
On 29 Dec 2012, at 14:49, "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@oliverpeters.com> wrote:
>> Tony Quinsee-Jover wrote:
>> And DS.
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> You mean "Das Symphony"? ;-)
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> - Oliver
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[Avid-L2] Re: What's your best Avid Tip/Discovery from 2012?
Starting with 6.5.2:
Holding the Alt key (Windows) or Option key (Macintosh) while selecting the Select Left, Select Right, or Select In/Out button will exclude filler from the selection.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
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> What are the two key strokes. I've heard you don't need to select the fill but I haven't played with the feature yet.
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[Avid-L2] Re: Fwd: Video Interview with Terence Curren of AlphaDogs
> Tony Quinsee-Jover wrote:
> And DS.
You mean "Das Symphony"? ;-)
- Oliver
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Re: [Avid-L2] How to create a 10.6 startup drive on a new MacPro with 10.8?
The newest Mac Pro ships with a graphics card that did not yet exist when
Snow leopard was current. You will need to obtain a driver package for
that card or you may have problems booting or have performance issues
On Thursday, December 27, 2012, electropura212 wrote:
> Yes. It will work fine. For example, many models of Mac no longer have
> FireWire. The FireWire drivers are still installed. If you start up a
> machine that has firewire ports using a clone of the original machines
> disk, the ports will work. The OSX installer does not customize the
> installation according to the machine. A Mac Mini gets the same install as
> a Mac Pro or a Retina MacBook Pro.
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> On Thursday, December 27, 2012, Marcel Brassard wrote:
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>> Yes. I often start up a Mac Pro with a back up disk from either a Mac
>> Mini or a MBP.
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>> On 27/12/2012, at 5:29 AM, Dennis Degan wrote:
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>> > In other words, if John clones his MBP startup drive onto his MacPro
>> > drive, it should work as a startup drive on the MacPro, right?
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Re: [Avid-L2] What's your best Avid Tip/Discovery from 2012?
On 28 Dec 2012, at 20:32, Steve Hullfish wrote:
> I wasn't a big fan of the SmartTools until I mapped the four main tools to my zxcv keys. After doing this, I have become a serious SmartTools user.
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> Steve Hullfish
> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
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> On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:10 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:
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> > Okay the year is almost over but I think it would be great to hear what everybody learned this year
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With best wishes,
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Friday, December 28, 2012
Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Fwd: Video Interview with Terence Curren of AlphaDogs
And DS.
T :)
Sent by magic over t'interweb
On 28 Dec 2012, at 18:26, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@aol.com> wrote:
> it works well in MC / Symphony.
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[Avid-L2] Re: What's your best Avid Tip/Discovery from 2012?
Although not an Avid Tip I did learn "shift+Cmd+U" opens the Utilities folder on Macs and "shift+Cmd+A" opens the Applications folder. Learn something new everyday.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...> wrote:
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> Upgrading to v6 this year brought an easy way to switch my audio output
> setting (stereo/mono/direct). Instead of having to open the Audio Project
> setting, navigate to Output, and choose what I want, now it's a button
> right up in the Audio Mixer. This saves me a buttload of time, as I'm
> always switching to accommodate for QT outputs, ref outputs, and tape
> layoffs.
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> It may have been there the whole time, I don't know, but I didn't find it
> there until v6, and I don't even care. It's great.
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> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Michael Brockington <brocking@...>wrote:
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> > I've been working on a doc with lots of subtitled rushes the last few
> > months, and have become a big fan of reverse-matchframe.
> >
> > My source footage has all become source sequences, with subtitle effects
> > applied for rough translation. So simple things like trimming or
> > match-frame are no longer that simple, since they don't give me access
> > to the subtitles.
> >
> > But I can load an assembly of subtitled rushes in the source window,
> > activate the sequence monitor, hit reverse matchframe, and be able to
> > access adjacent footage including subtitles with relative ease.
> >
> > Not really a new discovery -- just a feature I hadn't found much use for
> > before (which turns out to be invaluable!)
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> > Cheers,
> > --Michael
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> > > what everybody learned this year that was new to them in Avid. I've
> > > already posted about the correlation offset regieon tracker that I
> > > finally started using. I had been stuck in my old ways but now a
> > > right click in the tracker data timeline and I can start a new tracker
> > > region with a new start box to find a new anchor point and I don't
> > > have manually offset the shape like I did before using the new region
> > > tracker technique. This would be my best discovery in Avid this year
> > > even though it's been around a while I finally started to use it.
> > > Looking forward to see what everybody else has discovered or
> > rediscovered.
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> > > John Moore
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> > > Barking Trout Productions
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[Avid-L2] Re: 3 way internal stripped raid on MacPro Speed?
Well I just tried the ignore ownership in the get info and the aja system test worked. What I learned is that when I want to partition a drive for multiple startup drives I should put my preferred startup configuration on the first, outermost tracks partition, because in this case the performance on the 1st outer partition is approx 60% faster than the eighth partition. Of course when I get my dream configuration leaned out I'll find a quality SSD just so Mr. Greg won't have to Zelonate me. Did I say Greg I meant Mr. Sans OKI. ;-)
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> Okay I broke up the raid and did individual tests. Two drives are approx 163MB/sec and one is 155MB/sec. Both write and read speeds are pretty much the same. I swapped the slower drive from bay 3 to bay 4 and it performed virtually the same at 155MB/sec. I then played around with partitioning a single drive and comparing the different partitions for disk speed. Partition 8 which I assume is the inner most tracks is the slowest at around 100MB/sec and partition 1, I assume the outer most tracks is more like 150ish MB/sec. When I put everything back to normal I repartitioned all the strip drives as individual drives HFS+ no journaling. I then dragged them into the raid box and remade the raid with 32K block size and I got read write in the 460MB/sec range, quite a difference. I then went back and did the same process but this time set the raid to 256K block size, as I had originally. This time that configuration also gave me approx 450MB/sec write and read. Why my test last night were so much slower is beyond me. Perhaps I had not set the drives to never sleep but I would think that once the diskwhack test is running all the drives would have been front and center so the energy saving settings wouldn't have an effect. Well now I feel better. These tests also explain why when I tested my 4TB startup drive it was only showing 100MB/sec write read because it was the eighth partition being the slowest. I did find that the aja system test doesn't seem to want to work on the 10.8 startup partition. I did a little research and apparently the AJA test doesn't work with 10.7 or 10.8 boot drives. There was a suggestion get info on the drive you are trying to test and check the ignore ownership on this volume box and that might get it to work. I've read the default permissions in Lion and maybe Mountain Lion can create issues for some software etc.... Well I will sleep better knowing I can safely capture virtually anything that might come my way onto this raid. Of course when one drive goes I'm screwed but one step at a time.
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Grigorescu <bogdan_grigorescu@> wrote:
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> > And you are right, an empty, freshly formatted 3way stripe should sustain 300-350MBps. Both read and write.
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> > cheers,
> > BG
> > www.finale.tv
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> > --- On Fri, 12/28/12, John Moore <bigfish@> wrote:
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> > Subject: [Avid-L2] 3 way internal stripped raid on MacPro Speed?
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[Avid-L2] Re: 3 way internal stripped raid on MacPro Speed?
Okay I broke up the raid and did individual tests. Two drives are approx 163MB/sec and one is 155MB/sec. Both write and read speeds are pretty much the same. I swapped the slower drive from bay 3 to bay 4 and it performed virtually the same at 155MB/sec. I then played around with partitioning a single drive and comparing the different partitions for disk speed. Partition 8 which I assume is the inner most tracks is the slowest at around 100MB/sec and partition 1, I assume the outer most tracks is more like 150ish MB/sec. When I put everything back to normal I repartitioned all the strip drives as individual drives HFS+ no journaling. I then dragged them into the raid box and remade the raid with 32K block size and I got read write in the 460MB/sec range, quite a difference. I then went back and did the same process but this time set the raid to 256K block size, as I had originally. This time that configuration also gave me approx 450MB/sec write and read. Why my test last night were so much slower is beyond me. Perhaps I had not set the drives to never sleep but I would think that once the diskwhack test is running all the drives would have been front and center so the energy saving settings wouldn't have an effect. Well now I feel better. These tests also explain why when I tested my 4TB startup drive it was only showing 100MB/sec write read because it was the eighth partition being the slowest. I did find that the aja system test doesn't seem to want to work on the 10.8 startup partition. I did a little research and apparently the AJA test doesn't work with 10.7 or 10.8 boot drives. There was a suggestion get info on the drive you are trying to test and check the ignore ownership on this volume box and that might get it to work. I've read the default permissions in Lion and maybe Mountain Lion can create issues for some software etc.... Well I will sleep better knowing I can safely capture virtually anything that might come my way onto this raid. Of course when one drive goes I'm screwed but one step at a time.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Grigorescu <bogdan_grigorescu@...> wrote:
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> break the stripe and check disk speeds individually. Also, open the side panel and touch the drives, one by one, strong vibration means lower speed.
> Hitachi drives have, in my experience, the highest failure rate - except when they are enterprise grade, so I would not be surprised if you've got a lemon out of 4.
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> And you are right, an empty, freshly formatted 3way stripe should sustain 300-350MBps. Both read and write.
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> cheers,
> BG
> www.finale.tv
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> --- On Fri, 12/28/12, John Moore <bigfish@...> wrote:
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> From: John Moore <bigfish@...>
> Subject: [Avid-L2] 3 way internal stripped raid on MacPro Speed?
> To: "Avid L2" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 1:33 AM
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[Avid-L2] Re: What's your best Avid Tip/Discovery from 2012?
What are the two key strokes. I've heard you don't need to select the fill but I haven't played with the feature yet.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
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> The ability to select a bunch of shots without the fill to move to lower tracks in two keystrokes.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@> wrote:
> >
> > Upgrading to v6 this year brought an easy way to switch my audio output
> > setting (stereo/mono/direct). Instead of having to open the Audio Project
> > setting, navigate to Output, and choose what I want, now it's a button
> > right up in the Audio Mixer. This saves me a buttload of time, as I'm
> > always switching to accommodate for QT outputs, ref outputs, and tape
> > layoffs.
> >
> > It may have been there the whole time, I don't know, but I didn't find it
> > there until v6, and I don't even care. It's great.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Michael Brockington <brocking@>wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope you get a few more responses on this topic, John.
> > >
> > > I've been working on a doc with lots of subtitled rushes the last few
> > > months, and have become a big fan of reverse-matchframe.
> > >
> > > My source footage has all become source sequences, with subtitle effects
> > > applied for rough translation. So simple things like trimming or
> > > match-frame are no longer that simple, since they don't give me access
> > > to the subtitles.
> > >
> > > But I can load an assembly of subtitled rushes in the source window,
> > > activate the sequence monitor, hit reverse matchframe, and be able to
> > > access adjacent footage including subtitles with relative ease.
> > >
> > > Not really a new discovery -- just a feature I hadn't found much use for
> > > before (which turns out to be invaluable!)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > --Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12-12-28 12:10 PM, John Moore wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Okay the year is almost over but I think it would be great to hear
> > > > what everybody learned this year that was new to them in Avid. I've
> > > > already posted about the correlation offset regieon tracker that I
> > > > finally started using. I had been stuck in my old ways but now a
> > > > right click in the tracker data timeline and I can start a new tracker
> > > > region with a new start box to find a new anchor point and I don't
> > > > have manually offset the shape like I did before using the new region
> > > > tracker technique. This would be my best discovery in Avid this year
> > > > even though it's been around a while I finally started to use it.
> > > > Looking forward to see what everybody else has discovered or
> > > rediscovered.
> > > >
> > > > John Moore
> > > >
> > > > Barking Trout Productions
> > > >
> > > > Studio City, CA
> > > >
> > > > bigfish@ <mailto:bigfish%40pacbell.net>
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[Avid-L2] Re: What's your best Avid Tip/Discovery from 2012?
The ability to select a bunch of shots without the fill to move to lower tracks in two keystrokes.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...> wrote:
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> Upgrading to v6 this year brought an easy way to switch my audio output
> setting (stereo/mono/direct). Instead of having to open the Audio Project
> setting, navigate to Output, and choose what I want, now it's a button
> right up in the Audio Mixer. This saves me a buttload of time, as I'm
> always switching to accommodate for QT outputs, ref outputs, and tape
> layoffs.
>
> It may have been there the whole time, I don't know, but I didn't find it
> there until v6, and I don't even care. It's great.
>
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> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Michael Brockington <brocking@...>wrote:
>
> > **
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> > I hope you get a few more responses on this topic, John.
> >
> > I've been working on a doc with lots of subtitled rushes the last few
> > months, and have become a big fan of reverse-matchframe.
> >
> > My source footage has all become source sequences, with subtitle effects
> > applied for rough translation. So simple things like trimming or
> > match-frame are no longer that simple, since they don't give me access
> > to the subtitles.
> >
> > But I can load an assembly of subtitled rushes in the source window,
> > activate the sequence monitor, hit reverse matchframe, and be able to
> > access adjacent footage including subtitles with relative ease.
> >
> > Not really a new discovery -- just a feature I hadn't found much use for
> > before (which turns out to be invaluable!)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --Michael
> >
> >
> > On 12-12-28 12:10 PM, John Moore wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay the year is almost over but I think it would be great to hear
> > > what everybody learned this year that was new to them in Avid. I've
> > > already posted about the correlation offset regieon tracker that I
> > > finally started using. I had been stuck in my old ways but now a
> > > right click in the tracker data timeline and I can start a new tracker
> > > region with a new start box to find a new anchor point and I don't
> > > have manually offset the shape like I did before using the new region
> > > tracker technique. This would be my best discovery in Avid this year
> > > even though it's been around a while I finally started to use it.
> > > Looking forward to see what everybody else has discovered or
> > rediscovered.
> > >
> > > John Moore
> > >
> > > Barking Trout Productions
> > >
> > > Studio City, CA
> > >
> > > bigfish@... <mailto:bigfish%40pacbell.net>
> >
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