Saturday, March 17, 2012

[Avid-L2] Happy St. Patrick's Day

 

To my Irish brethren on this great list.

Terence Curren
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[Avid-L2] Re: New v6.0.1 error?

 

I had already done all that. It seemed more associated with the install. It first appeared when Initializing the MSM. Well before scanning. I first unmounted the Unity. Then I unmounted the local media drives. Still doing it. A few uninstalls and reinstalls of the MC app seems to have taken care of that problem though.

Jay

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger <rogershuff@...> wrote:
>
> Try the usual - rename the MediaFiles folder and see how how you get on. Get MC to create a new one (make a tile if you can). Then move some media files back and so on. Just a thought.
>
> On 17 Mar 2012, at 20:01, j_mahavier wrote:
>
> > Just upgraded to v6.0.1 on a MacPro OSX 10.7.2 system and now I'm getting this...
> >
> > Exception: FATAL_ERROR, msg:Assertion failed: FALSE, file:/Snapshots/relengsnow5_1327452620/coresw/ame/Projects/Mac/../../src/msmdb/LocalVolume.c, line:2094
> >
> > I'm guessing it's some sort of MSM database file error. It pops up when the system starts Initializing Media Streams Manager. But I can't figure out how to fix it. And the system won't get past it. Even if I go with the Debug option. It just crops up again when actually scanning the drives and then eventually crashes. Ugh. Just awful. Anyone got some suggestions?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Jay
> >
> >
>
> With best wishes,
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>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Semi-viral video pumping Premiere Pro (the next version)

 



In fact, more than Unity in that one timeline can be
edited and it's updated in the other editor's screen, without the bin/copy/lock
method of Unity.

Wow! That sounds pretty sexy, but talk about comedy! It reminds a little of those student driver cars, with an extra brake on the passenger (instructor) side. Go! No! Stop! What if two editors trim the same cut in opposite directions at once? Who wins?

Shirley

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To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:05 pm
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Semi-viral video pumping Premiere Pro (the next version)

> johnrobmoore wrote:
> My take on Premiere is it lacks anything like Avid's collaboration ability.

Premiere's project sharing is at the same level of FCP 7 - more or less.
Multiple editors working with copies of files linked to common media. There are
broadcast news outlets at the local level who are currently using Premiere Pro
connected to their standard server systems. There are plenty of installations
that can work perfectly well in this sort of configuration. For example, feature
films, TV promos, commercials, broadcast news, etc.

True Unity-style project collaboration is still an Avid strong point, although
EditShare has already shown (last year's NAB) Lightworks working in a completely
collaborative fashion. In fact, more than Unity in that one timeline can be
edited and it's updated in the other editor's screen, without the bin/copy/lock
method of Unity.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: For the love of god, LET IT ROLL.

 


>Come on Oliver! We all know audio is just a low frequency Video wanna be,
>right?

And John, you know that TV is just radio with pictures...

- Rich

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Semi-viral video pumping Premiere Pro (the next version)

I'm guessing with the Iridas acquisition you will most likely see color
grading taken to 11 inside PP.


On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Dylan Reeve <dylan@dylan.wibble.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Has anyone received a call from Steve Avid? I feel hurt that he's never
> called me!
>
> As for what PPro has and lacks now, I suspect it's all a little irrelevant.
> Since FCP7 vanished Adobe has been receiving a lot of feedback about what
> users need. I suspect CS6 will be a massive step up, especially in some of
> the weak areas.
>
> Sent from my mobile
>
> On Mar 18, 2012 8:10 AM, "Roger" <rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I went on an Adobe course last summer (CS5.5) which convinced me that
> PPro
> > had some strengths and features that were not present in FCP7 or Media
> > Composer. On the other hand, plenty of holes (no mention of collaborative
> > workflows). I'll be interested to see the CS6 release.
> >
> >
> > On 17 Mar 2012, at 18:55, johnrobmoore wrote:
> >
> > > Funny video. My take on Premiere is it lacks anything like Avid's
> > collaboration ability. Perhaps I'm wrong but I've asked lists before and
> > nobody has stepped up to say that Premiere now works great in a project
> > sharing environment. Does it? My take is the Conan editors tend to work
> on
> > pieces stand alone like we did in the linear days and so the project
> > sharing limits aren't an issue for them. It feels to me that the Conan
> > editorial staff has a bad taste in their mouth for Avid hence the leap to
> > premiere. I personally don't get it but I don't have to. As long as it
> does
> > what they need it to do more power to them. And they do make funny promo
> > videos. It's like they work on a comedy show or something.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Barnaby Levy <barnabylevy@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Where's the guy in the cowboy shirt?
> > > > Barnaby
> > > > 323.401.8642
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Bruce Tovsky <bruce@...>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ha! worked with dan at nvi - great to see him obviously enjoying
> > himself.
> > > > > love the video!
> > > > > b
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mar 15, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Jim Feeley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From some guys who work on Conan:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My friends and I have been testing out the next version of Adobe
> > > > > Premiere Pro for the past few months. Since our video about FCPX
> was
> > so
> > > > > well received, We thought we would do one ourselves about Premiere.
> > Here's
> > > > > a sneak peek at the new interface in the upcoming version of
> > Premiere Pro.
> > > > > Let me know what you think and please spread the word.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://vimeo.com/38593381
> > > > > >
> > > > > > More snark than content....but pretty fun snark.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim Feeley
> > > > > > jfeeley@...
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Re: [Avid-L2] New v6.0.1 error?

Try the usual - rename the MediaFiles folder and see how how you get on. Get MC to create a new one (make a tile if you can). Then move some media files back and so on. Just a thought.

On 17 Mar 2012, at 20:01, j_mahavier wrote:

> Just upgraded to v6.0.1 on a MacPro OSX 10.7.2 system and now I'm getting this...
>
> Exception: FATAL_ERROR, msg:Assertion failed: FALSE, file:/Snapshots/relengsnow5_1327452620/coresw/ame/Projects/Mac/../../src/msmdb/LocalVolume.c, line:2094
>
> I'm guessing it's some sort of MSM database file error. It pops up when the system starts Initializing Media Streams Manager. But I can't figure out how to fix it. And the system won't get past it. Even if I go with the Debug option. It just crops up again when actually scanning the drives and then eventually crashes. Ugh. Just awful. Anyone got some suggestions?
>
> Thank you,
> Jay
>
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: New v6.0.1 error?

 

Ok, it looks like uninstalling and reinstalling 6.0.1 a couple of times did the trick. That error now seems to be gone.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "j_mahavier" <jay_mahavier@...> wrote:
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> Just upgraded to v6.0.1 on a MacPro OSX 10.7.2 system and now I'm getting this...
>
> Exception: FATAL_ERROR, msg:Assertion failed: FALSE, file:/Snapshots/relengsnow5_1327452620/coresw/ame/Projects/Mac/../../src/msmdb/LocalVolume.c, line:2094
>
> I'm guessing it's some sort of MSM database file error. It pops up when the system starts Initializing Media Streams Manager. But I can't figure out how to fix it. And the system won't get past it. Even if I go with the Debug option. It just crops up again when actually scanning the drives and then eventually crashes. Ugh. Just awful. Anyone got some suggestions?
>
> Thank you,
> Jay
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: For the love of god, LET IT ROLL.

 

In my experience, I have found very few "field recordings" on any single
video/audio recording device that are not up to two or three frames out of
sync.
Barnaby
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[Avid-L2] Re: MC6 on MBP 2.8

 

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro6,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i5
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 4 GB
running six, an i5 but at 2.4...no additional hardware, not dragging a lot
of media, seems fine, biggest issue of course is the size of the mix window
on 15" screen...
Barnaby
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[Avid-L2] New v6.0.1 error?

 

Just upgraded to v6.0.1 on a MacPro OSX 10.7.2 system and now I'm getting this...

Exception: FATAL_ERROR, msg:Assertion failed: FALSE, file:/Snapshots/relengsnow5_1327452620/coresw/ame/Projects/Mac/../../src/msmdb/LocalVolume.c, line:2094

I'm guessing it's some sort of MSM database file error. It pops up when the system starts Initializing Media Streams Manager. But I can't figure out how to fix it. And the system won't get past it. Even if I go with the Debug option. It just crops up again when actually scanning the drives and then eventually crashes. Ugh. Just awful. Anyone got some suggestions?

Thank you,
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Semi-viral video pumping Premiere Pro (the next version)

 

Has anyone received a call from Steve Avid? I feel hurt that he's never
called me!

As for what PPro has and lacks now, I suspect it's all a little irrelevant.
Since FCP7 vanished Adobe has been receiving a lot of feedback about what
users need. I suspect CS6 will be a massive step up, especially in some of
the weak areas.

Sent from my mobile
On Mar 18, 2012 8:10 AM, "Roger" <rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I went on an Adobe course last summer (CS5.5) which convinced me that PPro
> had some strengths and features that were not present in FCP7 or Media
> Composer. On the other hand, plenty of holes (no mention of collaborative
> workflows). I'll be interested to see the CS6 release.
>
>
> On 17 Mar 2012, at 18:55, johnrobmoore wrote:
>
> > Funny video. My take on Premiere is it lacks anything like Avid's
> collaboration ability. Perhaps I'm wrong but I've asked lists before and
> nobody has stepped up to say that Premiere now works great in a project
> sharing environment. Does it? My take is the Conan editors tend to work on
> pieces stand alone like we did in the linear days and so the project
> sharing limits aren't an issue for them. It feels to me that the Conan
> editorial staff has a bad taste in their mouth for Avid hence the leap to
> premiere. I personally don't get it but I don't have to. As long as it does
> what they need it to do more power to them. And they do make funny promo
> videos. It's like they work on a comedy show or something.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Barnaby Levy <barnabylevy@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Where's the guy in the cowboy shirt?
> > > Barnaby
> > > 323.401.8642
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Bruce Tovsky <bruce@...>wrote:
> > >
> > > > ha! worked with dan at nvi - great to see him obviously enjoying
> himself.
> > > > love the video!
> > > > b
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 15, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Jim Feeley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From some guys who work on Conan:
> > > > >
> > > > > My friends and I have been testing out the next version of Adobe
> > > > Premiere Pro for the past few months. Since our video about FCPX was
> so
> > > > well received, We thought we would do one ourselves about Premiere.
> Here's
> > > > a sneak peek at the new interface in the upcoming version of
> Premiere Pro.
> > > > Let me know what you think and please spread the word.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://vimeo.com/38593381
> > > > >
> > > > > More snark than content....but pretty fun snark.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim Feeley
> > > > > jfeeley@...
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Dear Avid: Digital Bolex workflow with Media Composer

not too sure of that, they've raised 280K so far in pre sales.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joedp/the-digital-bolex-the-1st-affordable-digital-cinem?ref=card
owen

On Mar 17, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Roger wrote:

> It's all a load of old Bolex, as far as I can see (this joke may only hit the spot with British readers). :-)
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: For the love of god, LET IT ROLL.

 

Come on Oliver! We all know audio is just a low frequency Video wanna be, right?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
>
> > Shirley Gutierrez wrote:
> > This actually sounds like classic FCP design
>
> Not so much that, as an unfortunate by-product of the trackless paradigm. I'm sure it will be fixed down the road, but IMHO with FCP X, Apple has taken the concept that audio is the red-headed stepchild to video to a new level.
>
> - Oliver
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Semi-viral video pumping Premiere Pro (the next version)

I went on an Adobe course last summer (CS5.5) which convinced me that PPro had some strengths and features that were not present in FCP7 or Media Composer. On the other hand, plenty of holes (no mention of collaborative workflows). I'll be interested to see the CS6 release.


On 17 Mar 2012, at 18:55, johnrobmoore wrote:

> Funny video. My take on Premiere is it lacks anything like Avid's collaboration ability. Perhaps I'm wrong but I've asked lists before and nobody has stepped up to say that Premiere now works great in a project sharing environment. Does it? My take is the Conan editors tend to work on pieces stand alone like we did in the linear days and so the project sharing limits aren't an issue for them. It feels to me that the Conan editorial staff has a bad taste in their mouth for Avid hence the leap to premiere. I personally don't get it but I don't have to. As long as it does what they need it to do more power to them. And they do make funny promo videos. It's like they work on a comedy show or something.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Barnaby Levy <barnabylevy@...> wrote:
> >
> > Where's the guy in the cowboy shirt?
> > Barnaby
> > 323.401.8642
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Bruce Tovsky <bruce@...>wrote:
> >
> > > ha! worked with dan at nvi - great to see him obviously enjoying himself.
> > > love the video!
> > > b
> > >
> > > On Mar 15, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Jim Feeley wrote:
> > >
> > > > From some guys who work on Conan:
> > > >
> > > > My friends and I have been testing out the next version of Adobe
> > > Premiere Pro for the past few months. Since our video about FCPX was so
> > > well received, We thought we would do one ourselves about Premiere. Here's
> > > a sneak peek at the new interface in the upcoming version of Premiere Pro.
> > > Let me know what you think and please spread the word.
> > > >
> > > > http://vimeo.com/38593381
> > > >
> > > > More snark than content....but pretty fun snark.
> > > >
> > > > Jim Feeley
> > > > jfeeley@...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: For the love of god, LET IT ROLL.

 

Well, I think while avoiding the slate may help extend the life span of the 5D's sensor, it's probably shortening mine!

I'm glad at least that the life expectancy issue with the white balance button is keeping you in clover. ;-)

Shirley

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To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 17, 2012 12:01 pm
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: For the love of god, LET IT ROLL.

Shirley perhaps you are unaware of a little known deficiency with the 5D's
sensor. The jarring nature of a slate clap actually reduces the life span of
the chip. So those "In the Know" take every opportunity to avoid shooting the
slate. ;-) There is a similar shortening of camera life expectancy when using
the White Balance button. At least that's the only way I can explain all the
orange and blue video I get to color correct. ;-) "And then I woke up on stage
with Eddi Gormet" from the pathological liar SNL

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@...> wrote:
>
> THANK YOU! What he said!
>
>
> Funny, This just came up yesterday. A Cannon 5D and 7D shooting the same
scene, the goal being to create group clips. But, no common code, the 5D
starting and stopping 3 times while the 7D continued to roll, oh, and did I
mention that the 5D shooter forgot to shoot the slate occasionally?
>
>
> Shirley
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeffsengpiehl <jeffsengpiehl@...>
> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 10:11 am
> Subject: [Avid-L2] For the love of god, LET IT ROLL.
>
>
> /rant
>
> If you're part of a shoot with multiple cameras, do NOT stop record. Nobody

> cares that you need to reposition, or anything else. It's so much easier to

> speed through shots of the ground, the sky, or your own face while things are
> changing then trying to Sync up your stop-start crap on an iphone, DSLR or
your
> goPro produced file to everything else shot there.
>
> you will save MONEY and TIME, JUST BURN THE DAMN TAPE, OR DISK. YOU DON'T
> save JACK by stopping constantly when other sources keep rolling.
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[Avid-L2] Re: OT: Semi-viral video pumping Premiere Pro (the next version)

 

> johnrobmoore wrote:
> My take on Premiere is it lacks anything like Avid's collaboration ability.

Premiere's project sharing is at the same level of FCP 7 - more or less. Multiple editors working with copies of files linked to common media. There are broadcast news outlets at the local level who are currently using Premiere Pro connected to their standard server systems. There are plenty of installations that can work perfectly well in this sort of configuration. For example, feature films, TV promos, commercials, broadcast news, etc.

True Unity-style project collaboration is still an Avid strong point, although EditShare has already shown (last year's NAB) Lightworks working in a completely collaborative fashion. In fact, more than Unity in that one timeline can be edited and it's updated in the other editor's screen, without the bin/copy/lock method of Unity.

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[Avid-L2] Re: For the love of god, LET IT ROLL.

 

Shirley perhaps you are unaware of a little known deficiency with the 5D's sensor. The jarring nature of a slate clap actually reduces the life span of the chip. So those "In the Know" take every opportunity to avoid shooting the slate. ;-) There is a similar shortening of camera life expectancy when using the White Balance button. At least that's the only way I can explain all the orange and blue video I get to color correct. ;-) "And then I woke up on stage with Eddi Gormet" from the pathological liar SNL

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@...> wrote:
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> THANK YOU! What he said!
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> Funny, This just came up yesterday. A Cannon 5D and 7D shooting the same scene, the goal being to create group clips. But, no common code, the 5D starting and stopping 3 times while the 7D continued to roll, oh, and did I mention that the 5D shooter forgot to shoot the slate occasionally?
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> From: jeffsengpiehl <jeffsengpiehl@...>
> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 10:11 am
> Subject: [Avid-L2] For the love of god, LET IT ROLL.
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> If you're part of a shoot with multiple cameras, do NOT stop record. Nobody
> cares that you need to reposition, or anything else. It's so much easier to
> speed through shots of the ground, the sky, or your own face while things are
> changing then trying to Sync up your stop-start crap on an iphone, DSLR or your
> goPro produced file to everything else shot there.
>
> you will save MONEY and TIME, JUST BURN THE DAMN TAPE, OR DISK. YOU DON'T
> save JACK by stopping constantly when other sources keep rolling.
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