Saturday, June 15, 2019

Re: [Avid-L2] Mid 2012 MacPro CPU Upgrade?

 

Tried new user no help.  Trashed MC state, site settings.avs, site settings xml and site attributes in the Avid MC settings folder.  Still no joy finally trashed the project Settings.xml in the project folder and it seems to work better now.  There seems to be a lag for about 3 or 4 seconds when I hit play when the sequence rolls it's stuttery for the first 3 to 5 seconds then pops into sync and stays that way.  I found if I add filler at head and start with a 5 second preroll it plays solid.  I'm on 2018.12.3 which supposedly fixed a memory leak but I still have to quit Avid link after booting computer or it continually grows in memory use according to Activity monitor. 

I'm not sure if I've nailed it yet as sometimes in the past testing after playing a few times it gets worse also after a long render it gets worse.  I am rerendering more of the sequence now and will see if it still plays solid after the initial 3 to 5 seconds.

It reminds me of the frame bumping of an old ECS-90 or other convergence editors where you adjusted the preroll bumps to minimize over correction during preroll.  Of course back then I could see what was going on and now it's all some bit stream under the hood I can't tell what's going on.

It does seem like even though I've rendered an upper track safe color limit there are sections with a V2 submaster of up to 10 layers of clone/paint out effects that I've rendered the submaster effect before rendering the safe color limit and even though Avid only needs to play the one stream of rendered safe color limit render it might be tracking the underlying effect nest.  Perhaps that adds to the load and contributes to the hiccupy playback.  Just guessing out loud.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

Also good advice.  I haven't done the obvious stuff but worth a shot.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <cfh3media@...> wrote :

At the risk of being obvious, have you tried trashing the MCState?
That always seems to be the last thing I think of,
yet often fixes Avid when it misbehaves.

On Jun 15, 2019, at 12:29 PM, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Perhaps a new user will accomplish the same thing.  Worth a shot.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bncrcaxlr@...> wrote :

Have you tried your work Avid setting on your home computer?

Marcel


On 15/06/2019 11:49, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] wrote:
I guess I'm going to have to start a new drive and do a simple clean install to see if that plays nice.  I tried back revving to 8_9_4 with no improvement.  It seems like it's not a performance issue but something in hardware or software that is creating this. 


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

I tried playing off and external Graid USB3 enclosure and same thing yet at a facility today the same Graid played fine on a trashcan.  It's only in 10 bit that it's wonky.  I haven't seen this before but it's been a while since I ran it hard.  I'm going to back rev just to see.  The only tangible thing I've done is change my internal raid from a 3 drive strip to a 4 drive stripe but that should give better throughput.  I'm getting 550ish MB/sec read.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

Mine plays fine and it's a 2.66 

Maybe it's a storage problem?

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On Jun 14, 2019, at 19:46, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Got my computer back with the 3.46 12 core and alas at first it played the ProResHQ in 10bit but then started the stuttery playback.  Don't know why same Avid version plays fine at work but not at home.  Maybe I should try disconnecting the expansion chassis?  Don't know why that would interfere but you never know.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

John, I may want to do that once you get a bid. And, of course, once you know if it makes any difference. 

I'm eyeing the new cheesegrater, but may just jump back to windoze instead. For now, it's cheesegrater.

Sure glad I invested in the nVidia cards for resolve though. Ahhrrrggg!

gh
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> On Jun 7, 2019, at 11:48 AM, John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have someone I trust who can facilitate upgrading my mid 2012 MacPro 12 core 2.66GHz to 12 core 3.46. In light of my recent ProResHQ performance issues in Avid this seems like a possible stop gap to prolong the viability of my trusty old cheese grater. Perhaps the new MacPro will be something I consider down the line but for now I have to make do with what I have.
> 
> I've reached out to the upgrade person but haven't heard back regarding if the CPU upgrade will be like a ram upgrade in that no of my software license registrations would be effected. This may be a bone head worry but in the past I've seen things like swapping the network card unlicense some software because it some how referenced something on the network card for part of the registration. If memory serves me moving pictures was one plug in prone to this. Maybe that's all a moot point but I'm curious if anyone has any experience with upgrading the cpu only on a workstation. 
> 
> I'm expecting I just get back my computer and it processes a bit fast without any glitches with software activations etc... I'm on an Avid and Sapphire Dongle so those aren't likely to faulter but what about BCC etc... I'm probably overthinking this. Can someone talk me off this ones and zeros ledge? ;-)
> 
> John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...
> 
> 



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Re: [Avid-L2] Mid 2012 MacPro CPU Upgrade?

 

Also good advice.  I haven't done the obvious stuff but worth a shot.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <cfh3media@...> wrote :

At the risk of being obvious, have you tried trashing the MCState?
That always seems to be the last thing I think of,
yet often fixes Avid when it misbehaves.

On Jun 15, 2019, at 12:29 PM, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Perhaps a new user will accomplish the same thing.  Worth a shot.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bncrcaxlr@...> wrote :

Have you tried your work Avid setting on your home computer?

Marcel


On 15/06/2019 11:49, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] wrote:
I guess I'm going to have to start a new drive and do a simple clean install to see if that plays nice.  I tried back revving to 8_9_4 with no improvement.  It seems like it's not a performance issue but something in hardware or software that is creating this. 


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

I tried playing off and external Graid USB3 enclosure and same thing yet at a facility today the same Graid played fine on a trashcan.  It's only in 10 bit that it's wonky.  I haven't seen this before but it's been a while since I ran it hard.  I'm going to back rev just to see.  The only tangible thing I've done is change my internal raid from a 3 drive strip to a 4 drive stripe but that should give better throughput.  I'm getting 550ish MB/sec read.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

Mine plays fine and it's a 2.66 

Maybe it's a storage problem?

________________________
Greg Huson
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Greg (at) SecretHQ.com

On Jun 14, 2019, at 19:46, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Got my computer back with the 3.46 12 core and alas at first it played the ProResHQ in 10bit but then started the stuttery playback.  Don't know why same Avid version plays fine at work but not at home.  Maybe I should try disconnecting the expansion chassis?  Don't know why that would interfere but you never know.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

John, I may want to do that once you get a bid. And, of course, once you know if it makes any difference. 

I'm eyeing the new cheesegrater, but may just jump back to windoze instead. For now, it's cheesegrater.

Sure glad I invested in the nVidia cards for resolve though. Ahhrrrggg!

gh
----------------------------------------------------
Greg Huson
Chief
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Production / Post Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092 
www.SecretHQ.com 
t @SecretHQinc

> On Jun 7, 2019, at 11:48 AM, John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have someone I trust who can facilitate upgrading my mid 2012 MacPro 12 core 2.66GHz to 12 core 3.46. In light of my recent ProResHQ performance issues in Avid this seems like a possible stop gap to prolong the viability of my trusty old cheese grater. Perhaps the new MacPro will be something I consider down the line but for now I have to make do with what I have.
> 
> I've reached out to the upgrade person but haven't heard back regarding if the CPU upgrade will be like a ram upgrade in that no of my software license registrations would be effected. This may be a bone head worry but in the past I've seen things like swapping the network card unlicense some software because it some how referenced something on the network card for part of the registration. If memory serves me moving pictures was one plug in prone to this. Maybe that's all a moot point but I'm curious if anyone has any experience with upgrading the cpu only on a workstation. 
> 
> I'm expecting I just get back my computer and it processes a bit fast without any glitches with software activations etc... I'm on an Avid and Sapphire Dongle so those aren't likely to faulter but what about BCC etc... I'm probably overthinking this. Can someone talk me off this ones and zeros ledge? ;-)
> 
> John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...
> 
> 



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Re: [Avid-L2] Mid 2012 MacPro CPU Upgrade?

 

At the risk of being obvious, have you tried trashing the MCState?

That always seems to be the last thing I think of,
yet often fixes Avid when it misbehaves.

On Jun 15, 2019, at 12:29 PM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Perhaps a new user will accomplish the same thing.  Worth a shot.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bncrcaxlr@...> wrote :

Have you tried your work Avid setting on your home computer?

Marcel


On 15/06/2019 11:49, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] wrote:
I guess I'm going to have to start a new drive and do a simple clean install to see if that plays nice.  I tried back revving to 8_9_4 with no improvement.  It seems like it's not a performance issue but something in hardware or software that is creating this. 


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

I tried playing off and external Graid USB3 enclosure and same thing yet at a facility today the same Graid played fine on a trashcan.  It's only in 10 bit that it's wonky.  I haven't seen this before but it's been a while since I ran it hard.  I'm going to back rev just to see.  The only tangible thing I've done is change my internal raid from a 3 drive strip to a 4 drive stripe but that should give better throughput.  I'm getting 550ish MB/sec read.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

Mine plays fine and it's a 2..66 

Maybe it's a storage problem?

________________________
Greg Huson
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Greg (at) SecretHQ.com

On Jun 14, 2019, at 19:46, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Got my computer back with the 3.46 12 core and alas at first it played the ProResHQ in 10bit but then started the stuttery playback.  Don't know why same Avid version plays fine at work but not at home.  Maybe I should try disconnecting the expansion chassis?  Don't know why that would interfere but you never know.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

John, I may want to do that once you get a bid. And, of course, once you know if it makes any difference. 

I'm eyeing the new cheesegrater, but may just jump back to windoze instead. For now, it's cheesegrater.

Sure glad I invested in the nVidia cards for resolve though. Ahhrrrggg!

gh
----------------------------------------------------
Greg Huson
Chief
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Production / Post Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092 
www.SecretHQ.com 
t @SecretHQinc

> On Jun 7, 2019, at 11:48 AM, John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have someone I trust who can facilitate upgrading my mid 2012 MacPro 12 core 2.66GHz to 12 core 3.46. In light of my recent ProResHQ performance issues in Avid this seems like a possible stop gap to prolong the viability of my trusty old cheese grater. Perhaps the new MacPro will be something I consider down the line but for now I have to make do with what I have.
> 
> I've reached out to the upgrade person but haven't heard back regarding if the CPU upgrade will be like a ram upgrade in that no of my software license registrations would be effected. This may be a bone head worry but in the past I've seen things like swapping the network card unlicense some software because it some how referenced something on the network card for part of the registration. If memory serves me moving pictures was one plug in prone to this. Maybe that's all a moot point but I'm curious if anyone has any experience with upgrading the cpu only on a workstation. 
> 
> I'm expecting I just get back my computer and it processes a bit fast without any glitches with software activations etc... I'm on an Avid and Sapphire Dongle so those aren't likely to faulter but what about BCC etc... I'm probably overthinking this. Can someone talk me off this ones and zeros ledge? ;-)
> 
> John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...
> 
> 



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Re: [Avid-L2] Mid 2012 MacPro CPU Upgrade?

 

Perhaps a new user will accomplish the same thing.  Worth a shot.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bncrcaxlr@...> wrote :

Have you tried your work Avid setting on your home computer?

Marcel


On 15/06/2019 11:49, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] wrote:
I guess I'm going to have to start a new drive and do a simple clean install to see if that plays nice.  I tried back revving to 8_9_4 with no improvement.  It seems like it's not a performance issue but something in hardware or software that is creating this.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

I tried playing off and external Graid USB3 enclosure and same thing yet at a facility today the same Graid played fine on a trashcan.  It's only in 10 bit that it's wonky.  I haven't seen this before but it's been a while since I ran it hard.  I'm going to back rev just to see.  The only tangible thing I've done is change my internal raid from a 3 drive strip to a 4 drive stripe but that should give better throughput.  I'm getting 550ish MB/sec read.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

Mine plays fine and it's a 2.66 

Maybe it's a storage problem?

________________________
Greg Huson
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Greg (at) SecretHQ.com

On Jun 14, 2019, at 19:46, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Got my computer back with the 3.46 12 core and alas at first it played the ProResHQ in 10bit but then started the stuttery playback.  Don't know why same Avid version plays fine at work but not at home.  Maybe I should try disconnecting the expansion chassis?  Don't know why that would interfere but you never know.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

John, I may want to do that once you get a bid. And, of course, once you know if it makes any difference.

I'm eyeing the new cheesegrater, but may just jump back to windoze instead. For now, it's cheesegrater.

Sure glad I invested in the nVidia cards for resolve though. Ahhrrrggg!

gh
----------------------------------------------------
Greg Huson
Chief
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Production / Post Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092
www.SecretHQ.com
t @SecretHQinc

> On Jun 7, 2019, at 11:48 AM, John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have someone I trust who can facilitate upgrading my mid 2012 MacPro 12 core 2.66GHz to 12 core 3.46. In light of my recent ProResHQ performance issues in Avid this seems like a possible stop gap to prolong the viability of my trusty old cheese grater. Perhaps the new MacPro will be something I consider down the line but for now I have to make do with what I have.
>
> I've reached out to the upgrade person but haven't heard back regarding if the CPU upgrade will be like a ram upgrade in that no of my software license registrations would be effected. This may be a bone head worry but in the past I've seen things like swapping the network card unlicense some software because it some how referenced something on the network card for part of the registration. If memory serves me moving pictures was one plug in prone to this. Maybe that's all a moot point but I'm curious if anyone has any experience with upgrading the cpu only on a workstation.
>
> I'm expecting I just get back my computer and it processes a bit fast without any glitches with software activations etc... I'm on an Avid and Sapphire Dongle so those aren't likely to faulter but what about BCC etc... I'm probably overthinking this. Can someone talk me off this ones and zeros ledge? ;-)
>
> John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...
>
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Mac Nvidia/CUDA drivers

 

Was that a top-of-the-line Mac in 1992, Dave?  I believe the new Mac Pro tops out somewhere around $50,000.


What was the cost of an Avid system in the 90's?  $150,000 or more?  The fall in cost of the total system over the next 20 years probably tracked Moore's law pretty nicely.  But now the software component is so cheap, any declines in software cost are swamped by increasingly expensive hardware.  So instead of expecting the cost of an edit system to decline over time, we seem to be in a new era where it will be rising.

Unfortunately, Moore's law broke down about the same time as camera resolution really started escalating.

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