Saturday, February 28, 2015

[Avid-L2] Re: DMF and Network Drives

 

I found DMF wouldn't work if the folder didn't continue to exist.  So if I set up an external DMF folder on a removable drive all worked ok. But remove and reattach the drive and no dice. Maybe something similar limits network drives.
In my book DMF needs some work yet. Nice idea. Mot there yet.

Pat from his mobile.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Kona 4: Latency & Playback Issues ?

 

I think now with that video I understand more clearly what you're talking about. I may have this, but I never would know since I am almost always looking and listening at the output and not the tiny playback window on the desktop. In fact, I have my window much smaller than you have yours, since I'm using a single screen display on my system. I find I make much better decisions when looking at a perfectly locked in sync output on a larger display. So please do not take my previous statement into account for this issue. I was much more interested in this thread in talking about the AJA control panel and wondering why anyone was messing with it after initial configuration.

I saw when I first set up my systems that there was a compensation somewhere, but I never bothered to mess with it, since so much of what I would be working on I'd be looking at the output from the I/O and not looking at the desktop. Any delay there never bothered me, and the delay between the desktop and a tape return never bothered me either. As long as the output looked good (and I get sync audio from the audio output of the FSI display), I'm good.

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:40 PM, blafarm@yahoo.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I was a bit confused when AJA said that the "Desktop Play Delay" issue affected all AJA devices using the driver -- and that it was being worked on.  More specifically, I'm referring to the latency between the Avid GUI Source/Record monitors – and the AJA HD-SDI/HDMI output.


It's hard to believe that other professional editors would accept the amount of latency I am seeing, especially as it seriously impacts timing, rhythm, lip sync and sound effects layout.


Accordingly, I spent a few moments this morning shooting a down-and-dirty video that illustrates the problem.  

The video linked below was shot at 29.97, and as you can see, there are at least 4 frames of delay on the AJA HD-SDI/HDMI output.  I have measured even more of a delay when scrubbing frame-by-frame.


I know Mark Spano indicated he was not seeing this latency.  But is anyone else seeing (or not seeing) this latency issue with AJA interfaces?

Thanks for your feedback.


 


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Re: [Avid-L2] Which Apple OS for MBP circa 2009 for Avid sweet spot"

 

i have a MBP 2008 w/SSD and 4 Gigs RAM, Built to Order with the fastest processor (2.6Ghz) and most RAM on the Video card (512M).  AVID 8.3 is impossible on it, it won't install. 7.04 is INCREDIBLY slow.  I find  it useable on 6.ox.  I run Lion on it.  Haven't tried MC/Symphony 6.5x

You can't do more than 8 gigs RAM on your machine, and it's only a core 2 duo, slower than the one I have, not even an i processor so no hyperthreading or extended video decode for H.264 and other long GOP codecs. MC 8.3 requires minimum a 6 core 3Ghz machine capable of hyperthreading (12 cores minimum) and 16 gigs of RAM.

Last time mine was peppy and reliable (With SSD and full RAM) was MC 5.5.x, but yours is a year newer, with same CPUs, a slightly newer NVidia display and double the ram. Your mileage may vary a bit.

The reason I recommend OS X 10.7.5 is that you can run anything from MC 5.5.5 to 7.0.4 under that OS, and the newer OSes just have more overhead/payload that will take away from what AVID needs to run.  Since you have a dongle (IIRC) you can run any of those versions with it. Your machine can run it full 64 bit. A big performance boost over Snow Leopard.

Only MC/Symphony v8.x requires 10.8.5 or newer Mac OS.  I may be wrong but I don't think MC 8.x will even let you install on a core 2 duo with 8 Gigs RAM.

I've said it before, but I really like Samsung SSDs, as they are an Apple technology partner.   Be sure to install trim support (difficult to do with Yosemite, but not impossible). The internal SATA interface on your machine is Sata II (3ghz) so I think you won't see HD speeds much over 280MB/Sec even though most new SSDs are faster than that.

Love to hear your experience, once you get the new partition installed.

Dave Hogan
Burbank, CA


On Saturday, February 28, 2015 6:05 PM, "John Moore bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
I'm still running OS 10.6.8 on my summer 2009 MBP.  I recently went to 8GB of ram and an internal 1TB SSD.  There seem to be some bugs in the OS system and I get stalls of about 30 seconds and the beach ball then it snaps back to life.  I figure it's time to install a clean system on the 2nd partition of the SSD.  It's looking like 10.8.5 is kind of the sweet spot of overall Avid compatibility right now.  I realize /ver. 8.3 might not work well on my laptop but I've been running 6.5.3 ish for my minimal ancillary tasks.  Does anybody have a recommendation over 10.8.5.  I kinda think 10.9 might be a little better future proof but I don't want to jeopardize running back to 6.5.4 etc...  This is not a heavy lifting system so I can take my time installing and tweaking this second startup drive.  Any advice will be appreciated.
 
John Moore
Barking Trout Productions
Studio City, CA
bigfish@pacbell.net


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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: current best sata drives

 

Wd caviar blacks are all over my building, maybe 180 drives i have lost 1 in 3 years.

This year Im cycling them all out just to be safe. Most of my raids have wd workstation disks - none lost in 3 years. That's another 64 disks.

However I am a 'I only use 1tb disks' so your mileage may vary with bigger capacities.

Having said that at home I have a synology nas with 5x 3tb regular caviar blacks and that hasn't missed a beat in 3 years either and is permanently on. It's raid 6.

My current plan is to bounce the wd backup disks to lto6 and keep just the raids but swap out the disks by August.

Best regards

Mike


On 1 Mar 2015, at 8:14 am, jrharmony@yahoo.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Seagate has always been a gold standard for me. I have a couple 2TB SATAs that I have been beating up for over a year.

A friend has gone through Western Digital drives more than one would reasonably expect.

JR
Luminosity

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Re: [Avid-L2] Kona 3/MC hell

 

have you considered capturing over firewire directly?

BG





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Subject: [Avid-L2] Kona 3/MC hell

 
I'm trying to digitize some HDV footage via firewire through a Miranda HD DEC and into MC software only 7.0.4.2 w/Symph option using a Kona 3 card. MC will see SDI audio and serially control the HDV deck through the Miranda, but it will not allow me to select video as well as audio for capture. I cannot select the Kona as a source for video. In capture mode the video choices are none or 1394. Kona shows up as a source for audio, though.

Kona 3 is seeing 1080i 29.97 via HDSDI out of Miranda. It is processing video at YUV-10, spitting 1081i/29.97 out via SDI 1. I tried YUV-8 and got the same result. Cannot select video in capture tool.   

MC is set up for a 1080i/59.94 project at 1920/1080 in YCbCr 709 color space. Tried other iterations/sizes to no avail.

Digitizing to internal SATA drives on a older Mac Pro (not striped, audio and video going to separate drives). 3.2ghz dual quad core, 12 gigs of RAM, and Yosemite 10.10.2. Latest and greatest patches for version 7 MC and AJA Kona 3.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

JR


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[Avid-L2] Which Apple OS for MBP circa 2009 for Avid sweet spot"

 

I'm still running OS 10.6.8 on my summer 2009 MBP.  I recently went to 8GB of ram and an internal 1TB SSD.  There seem to be some bugs in the OS system and I get stalls of about 30 seconds and the beach ball then it snaps back to life.  I figure it's time to install a clean system on the 2nd partition of the SSD.  It's looking like 10.8.5 is kind of the sweet spot of overall Avid compatibility right now.  I realize /ver. 8.3 might not work well on my laptop but I've been running 6.5.3 ish for my minimal ancillary tasks.  Does anybody have a recommendation over 10.8.5.  I kinda think 10.9 might be a little better future proof but I don't want to jeopardize running back to 6.5.4 etc...  This is not a heavy lifting system so I can take my time installing and tweaking this second startup drive.  Any advice will be appreciated.
 
John Moore
Barking Trout Productions
Studio City, CA
bigfish@pacbell.net

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[Avid-L2] Kona 3/MC hell

 

I'm trying to digitize some HDV footage via firewire through a Miranda HD DEC and into MC software only 7.0.4.2 w/Symph option using a Kona 3 card. MC will see SDI audio and serially control the HDV deck through the Miranda, but it will not allow me to select video as well as audio for capture. I cannot select the Kona as a source for video. In capture mode the video choices are none or 1394. Kona shows up as a source for audio, though.

Kona 3 is seeing 1080i 29.97 via HDSDI out of Miranda. It is processing video at YUV-10, spitting 1081i/29.97 out via SDI 1. I tried YUV-8 and got the same result. Cannot select video in capture tool.   

MC is set up for a 1080i/59.94 project at 1920/1080 in YCbCr 709 color space. Tried other iterations/sizes to no avail.

Digitizing to internal SATA drives on a older Mac Pro (not striped, audio and video going to separate drives). 3.2ghz dual quad core, 12 gigs of RAM, and Yosemite 10.10.2. Latest and greatest patches for version 7 MC and AJA Kona 3.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

JR

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[Avid-L2] Re: current best sata drives

 

Seagate has always been a gold standard for me. I have a couple 2TB SATAs that I have been beating up for over a year.

A friend has gone through Western Digital drives more than one would reasonably expect.

JR
Luminosity

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Re: [Avid-L2] Local 700 Editor's Union. Thoughts?

 

A talk with Howard Shore.  That's pretty god actually - I loves me some Movie Scores...

I've pretty much decided on doing it.  Just have to get the $$$$$ together.  Like I ve been told by multiple people, it's about additional options - and that's good with me.

Thanks
Mark


On 2/26/2015 9:37 PM, namyrb namyrb@gmail.com [Avid-L2] wrote:
 
It's good to have the membership just in case.  Some people lose out on opportunities when they have to say "I'm not in the union yet, but I have my hours."  I don't work enough to get benefits, but every once in a while something will pop up and it has always been a great experience.  Plus they have free screenings at the directors guild 1-2 times per month which can be cool.  Last year they did the hobbit and afterwards we got to see howard shore talk about composing the music which made it all worth it for me. 

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Tal Nitris@tal.bz [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
The union doesn't mind when you do non union gigs.

I am a big big fan of the health insurance.
Tal

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Jay Mahavier jay_mahavier@earthlink.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Those are the sort of things that you have to figure out for yourself.  But I don't know of any law that says that since you are in the union that you can't take a non-union job.  But a non-union job isn't going to count towards your union benefits.  And that's when you sit down and make the determination if you are getting enough offers for union work, or will be able to get enough union work offers, to make joining worth your while.


As for the needing to change classifications, I don't know.  That's something you can probably call them and ask them about.  

But no one can tell you if you joining the union is a good fit.  We can tell you things to consider, but the final decision will need to be your own.

Jay



On Feb 26, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Mark Santora mrsantora@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Thanks for this Jay.  

For me, the biggest things is that most of the Trailer Houses I work with are non-union.  So I'm not sure how that would shake out.  Also, it's a decent chunk of change to join, how easy is it to find work as a union member?  If I join as a trailer editor, would I be able to find work as a TV Editor as well or would I have to change my classification within it and dues to move onto that?

Mark



On 2/26/2015 11:18 AM, Jay Mahavier jay_mahavier@earthlink.net [Avid-L2] wrote:

It sounds a lot like buying gear. If you need the gear to get a gig then you buy the gear. If you don't need the gear to get the gig then why buy the gear.

I'm in the 700. It's fine. I clock enough hours to keep my insurance up to date, which is about all I really want from it. 

You will meet people that absolutely love the union, and some that absolutely hate the union. But whatever, both extremes are annoying. Listen to both sides. You'll probably figure out that whatever their reasons for feeling one way or the other probably won't ever fit your situation and don't really matter. You just need to think about what benefit it would be to you and made your own judgement.

Jay

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Mark Santora mrsantora@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> 
> Not looking to stirr up the beehive here, but I've had some inquiries 
> lately about work but have lost the gig due to not being a member of the 
> 700. I have the hours and would have no issue joining, I'm just 
> thinking it over and thought I'd ask here about people opinion.
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> Thanks
> Mark
> 
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Re: [Avid-L2] Local 700 Editor's Union. Thoughts?

 


Tal,

I've heard great things about the Health Insurance.  And the work is pretty steady from what I've been hearing.  Not too many people sitting on the sidelines when they're out of work.

Mark

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On 2/26/2015 6:07 PM, Tal Nitris@tal.bz [Avid-L2] wrote:
 
The union doesn't mind when you do non union gigs.

I am a big big fan of the health insurance.
Tal

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Jay Mahavier jay_mahavier@earthlink.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Those are the sort of things that you have to figure out for yourself.  But I don't know of any law that says that since you are in the union that you can't take a non-union job.  But a non-union job isn't going to count towards your union benefits.  And that's when you sit down and make the determination if you are getting enough offers for union work, or will be able to get enough union work offers, to make joining worth your while.


As for the needing to change classifications, I don't know.  That's something you can probably call them and ask them about.  

But no one can tell you if you joining the union is a good fit.  We can tell you things to consider, but the final decision will need to be your own.

Jay



On Feb 26, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Mark Santora mrsantora@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Thanks for this Jay.  

For me, the biggest things is that most of the Trailer Houses I work with are non-union.  So I'm not sure how that would shake out.  Also, it's a decent chunk of change to join, how easy is it to find work as a union member?  If I join as a trailer editor, would I be able to find work as a TV Editor as well or would I have to change my classification within it and dues to move onto that?

Mark



On 2/26/2015 11:18 AM, Jay Mahavier jay_mahavier@earthlink.net [Avid-L2] wrote:

It sounds a lot like buying gear. If you need the gear to get a gig then you buy the gear. If you don't need the gear to get the gig then why buy the gear.

I'm in the 700. It's fine. I clock enough hours to keep my insurance up to date, which is about all I really want from it. 

You will meet people that absolutely love the union, and some that absolutely hate the union. But whatever, both extremes are annoying. Listen to both sides. You'll probably figure out that whatever their reasons for feeling one way or the other probably won't ever fit your situation and don't really matter. You just need to think about what benefit it would be to you and made your own judgement.

Jay

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Mark Santora mrsantora@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Not looking to stirr up the beehive here, but I've had some inquiries 
> lately about work but have lost the gig due to not being a member of the 
> 700. I have the hours and would have no issue joining, I'm just 
> thinking it over and thought I'd ask here about people opinion.
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> Thanks
> Mark
> 
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