Re: [Avid-L2] New title tool

I think the HDTitleFilter console command got moved out to a checkbox somewhere (maybe import?) And set so the default is correct (i.e. don't make titles + Matt key imports look SD)

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: MD5 Checksum and others what do they analyze?

John. My limited understanding is that checksum is purely a binary comparison of the files. The first question is asks is if both files have the same number of bits. Then it breaks the file into pieces, adds the value of the bits in each section (0 or 1), then compares the results. If the files are the same size and the sums of each section are within a preset tolerance, the files are considered the same. The process can be really helpful in audio/video where a replaced shot or section of dialogue may not change the file size or structure. Other than the timestamp and hopefully the file name, both files may look identical. Checksum should notice that they are different from each other. JB 

On Feb 12, 2023, at 8:23 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:



I got 4 files through drop box.  Three with the same title on one day and the next day another file.  They were all separate drop box downloads.  The first three had the exact same title and the last one has a similar but incremented title ending in 02 instead of the first three that ended in 01.  They all have the same content and have the same metadata when checked in Media Info program.  The first three that came in one day I updated the file name including download 01, 02 and 03.  I ama linked to the 01 file but when I then go to ama link to the 02 and or 03 file it appears in the bin with the 01 clip name like the first one.  Even if I link in a separate bin it still takes on the 01 ending clip name.  This also happens when I ama link to the file sent the next day that actually came with the 02 on the end.  This made me think all the files are identical so I did an md5  check sum and they all generate the same character string so that means they are identical.

My curiosity is why doesn't me renaming a file make a change in the md5 checksum?  It makes me think that the md5 doesn't look at every aspect of the file but just at the "meat" of the file.  I don't know if that would be considered the video essence or what?  If it verity's a that two files match and are identical why doesn't changing a files name effect the md5 checksum?  I can see the value in the name not counting in the equation but I'm just wondering what aspects of a file are involved in the md5 and what aren't.  Just a curiosity that came out of this experience.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

[Avid-L2] OT: MD5 Checksum and others what do they analyze?

I got 4 files through drop box.  Three with the same title on one day and the next day another file.  They were all separate drop box downloads.  The first three had the exact same title and the last one has a similar but incremented title ending in 02 instead of the first three that ended in 01.  They all have the same content and have the same metadata when checked in Media Info program.  The first three that came in one day I updated the file name including download 01, 02 and 03.  I ama linked to the 01 file but when I then go to ama link to the 02 and or 03 file it appears in the bin with the 01 clip name like the first one.  Even if I link in a separate bin it still takes on the 01 ending clip name.  This also happens when I ama link to the file sent the next day that actually came with the 02 on the end.  This made me think all the files are identical so I did an md5  check sum and they all generate the same character string so that means they are identical.

My curiosity is why doesn't me renaming a file make a change in the md5 checksum?  It makes me think that the md5 doesn't look at every aspect of the file but just at the "meat" of the file.  I don't know if that would be considered the video essence or what?  If it verity's a that two files match and are identical why doesn't changing a files name effect the md5 checksum?  I can see the value in the name not counting in the equation but I'm just wondering what aspects of a file are involved in the md5 and what aren't.  Just a curiosity that came out of this experience.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] New title tool

Sorry for raising that flag: is – for those still using the TitleTool – the "HDTitleFilter" command in the Console still a thing?

Just wondering


Best

Jo

> On 12. Feb 2023, at 15:32, Tim Selander <selander@tkf.att.ne.jp> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the added input, John. But as we are over the air broadcast, we only work in HD projects. And promoting doesn't work.
>
> I'm dismayed that you've been having this problem since 2018.12 -- I guess that means Avid is not going to fix it. Marianna, is Avid going to throw all their UTF8 users under the bus on this one?
>
> Tim
> Curious in Tokyo.
>
> On 2023.02.12 4:44, John Moore wrote:
>> What you are describing is what I have experienced and posted about in this thread. First I've had to be in the HD project in order to promote the Titler+. The first one works but if I then toggled to 4K to check how the title looks and then back to HD format the subsequent promotions end up with empty page. If I then restart Avid and just stay in HD and promote all the titles first they work. This has been with MC 2018.12.15 or similar versions so the newer versions may not act this way but it did happen to me on multiple systems both mac and PC. My suggestion would be toggle your project to HD then quit and restart Avid then try the promotion, not sure but that's worked for me.
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 03:40 AM, Tim Selander wrote:
>> Just a follow-up for the record...
>> Promoting UTF8/Kanji titles when Avid & OS are running in
>> English, results in UTF8 double byte characters being broken
>> into
>> unreadable single-byte text. However, switching the OS and Avid
>> to run in Japanese did not solve the problem. But instead of
>> breaking the text, the text, and it's bounding box, simply
>> disappear.
>> This has got to be driving Europeans nuts, too! Hoping Avid gets
>> this fixed pronto!
>> Tim Selander
>> On 2023.02.08 10:42, Tim Selander wrote:
>> Hi Marianna,
>> Thanks so much. As to Titler+ trashing kanji titles, it
>> occurred
>> to me that I run Avid in English, on a Japanese OS, so if I
>> switch the Avid GUI to Japanese, it might work. I'm out
>> of the
>> office today, so will test tomorrow. In the early days of
>> Avid,
>> there was a lot of funkiness in how it handled Japanese.
>> But even if that workaround works, your team needs to make
>> Titler+ promote UTF8 titles!
>> On New Blue, it turned out I hadn't installed it (why the
>> option
>> was in the Effect Pallette, I don't know...) After
>> installing, it
>> should up as an option in the promote menu, but selecting
>> it does
>> nothing, and using it to create a new title doesn't work
>> either
>> -- the NB gui never shows up.
>> Tim
>> On 2/6/23 11:45 PM, Marianna Montague wrote:
>> Hi Tim,
>> I have asked the tech team to check with our Titler+
>> team to
>> see what the scoop is with this, and also to check
>> with NewBlue
>> and get back with you. I created a case 04578884 so
>> it can be
>> followed and addressed.
>> They will reach out sap.
>> Marianna
>> *Marianna Montague*
>> Sr. Director, Customer Experience
>> t +1 (978) 640-5215 | m +1 (813) 493-6800
>> marianna.montague@avid.com
>> <mailto:marianna.montague@avid.com>
>> *Avid*| *Remote - Florida*
>> United States Of America
>> www.avid.com
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>> Twitter logo <https://www.instagram.com/avidtechnology/>
>> Twitter logo
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/avid-technology/>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: [Avid-L2] New title tool

Thanks for the added input, John. But as we are over the air
broadcast, we only work in HD projects. And promoting doesn't work.

I'm dismayed that you've been having this problem since 2018.12
-- I guess that means Avid is not going to fix it. Marianna, is
Avid going to throw all their UTF8 users under the bus on this one?

Tim
Curious in Tokyo.

On 2023.02.12 4:44, John Moore wrote:
> What you are describing is what I have experienced and posted
> about in this thread.  First I've had to be in the HD project in
> order to promote the Titler+.  The first one works but if I then
> toggled to 4K to check how the title looks and then back to HD
> format the subsequent promotions end up with empty page.  If I
> then restart Avid and just stay in HD and promote all the titles
> first they work.  This has been with MC 2018.12.15 or similar
> versions so the newer versions may not act this way but it did
> happen to me on multiple systems both mac and PC.  My suggestion
> would be toggle your project to HD then quit and restart Avid
> then try the promotion, not sure but that's worked for me.
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 03:40 AM, Tim Selander wrote:
>
> Just a follow-up for the record...
>
> Promoting UTF8/Kanji titles when Avid & OS are running in
> English, results in UTF8 double byte characters being broken
> into
> unreadable single-byte text. However, switching the OS and Avid
> to run in Japanese did not solve the problem. But instead of
> breaking the text, the text, and it's bounding box, simply
> disappear.
>
> This has got to be driving Europeans nuts, too! Hoping Avid gets
> this fixed pronto!
>
> Tim Selander
>
> On 2023.02.08 10:42, Tim Selander wrote:
>
> Hi Marianna,
>
> Thanks so much. As to Titler+ trashing kanji titles, it
> occurred
> to me that I run Avid in English, on a Japanese OS, so if I
> switch the Avid GUI to Japanese, it might work. I'm out
> of the
> office today, so will test tomorrow. In the early days of
> Avid,
> there was a lot of funkiness in how it handled Japanese.
>
> But even if that workaround works, your team needs to make
> Titler+ promote UTF8 titles!
>
> On New Blue, it turned out I hadn't installed it (why the
> option
> was in the Effect Pallette, I don't know...) After
> installing, it
> should up as an option in the promote menu, but selecting
> it does
> nothing, and using it to create a new title doesn't work
> either
> -- the NB gui never shows up.
>
> Tim
>
> On 2/6/23 11:45 PM, Marianna Montague wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> I have asked the tech team to check with our Titler+
> team to
> see what the scoop is with this, and also to check
> with NewBlue
> and get back with you.  I created a case 04578884 so
> it can be
> followed and addressed.
>
> They will reach out sap.
>
> Marianna
>
> *Marianna Montague*
> Sr. Director, Customer Experience
> t +1 (978) 640-5215  |  m +1 (813) 493-6800
> marianna.montague@avid.com
> <mailto:marianna.montague@avid.com>
>
> *Avid*| *Remote - Florida*
> United States Of America
>
> www.avid.com
>
>
> Avid logo <https://www.avid.com/>
>
> Twitter logo <https://twitter.com/avid>
>
>
>
> Twitter logo <https://www.facebook.com/Avid/>
>
>
>
> Twitter logo <https://www.instagram.com/avidtechnology/>
>
>
>
> Twitter logo
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/avid-technology/>
>
>
>
>
>



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