Saturday, April 28, 2012

[Avid-L2] Re: Advice for restoring old project

 

I want to say SD2 went bye bye with OS9. We had a ton of issues trying to restore a project years ago for the same reason.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, Mac Avid 6.01 - the system quarantines all the .omf files that are actually audio files.
>
> gh
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Greg Huson
> Secret Headquarters, Inc
> Post Production / Production
> Culver City, CA
> 323 677 2092
> www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> www.SecretHQ.com
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Dom Q. Silverio wrote:
>
> > Are you on a Mac Avid?
> > I think Mac Avid still supports SD2, at least it did with MC v2.x
> > Adrenaline.
> >
> > On 4/28/2012 11:43 PM, Greg Huson wrote:
> > > I'm helping a client restore an old project. The media is AVR4s on SCSI drives. I'm able to copy all the media to newer drives, and the picture works fine. However, the AUDIO files, though labeled as .omf are quarantined during scanning. I assumed they're SD2 files, given the age of the project, yet if play them using another application (quicktime, VLC, something less... uh... discerning) they play fine and sound correct. Further, if relabel them as .aif files, then import them into media composer, they play correctly, but, of course, they're not linked to the original picture file.
> > >
> > > How do I get these files NOT to quarantine, and also to relink with the picture? Is there an old assistant trick I can use? Obviously they'd like to get their working cut back (the project opens OK) and there's a boatload of source footage - so hand-linking all the audio isn't really practical, though I tested it, and merely by matching duration and tape number with the file name, it's not impossible to find the right audio for the right picture. (Thought that doesn't relink the audio into the cut.)
> > >
> > > Anyone?
> > >
> > > gh
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > Greg Huson
> > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > Post Production / Production
> > > Culver City, CA
> > > 323 677 2092
> > > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[Avid-L2] Re: Does Red Rocket accellerate Avid Red ama workflows?

 

That's too bad. He's been very helpful with lots of workflow and Avid related problems for a long time.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> PS: I would say ask Bob Russo but apparently he is leaving or has left Avid. :-(
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> >
> > Test it.
> >
> > I can tell you that if the files are imported originally, I have to go the EDL, RedCineX conform, retranscode at higher rez, drop media in and import AAF, then relink route.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > So that means that if we created mxf 10:1 avid media using RedCineX and dropped those into an existing avidmediafiles folder and brought the clips in using media tool those clips would be considered imports? Am I confused about RedCineX's functionality here. Does it only create QT files for Avid import or does it also create Avid mxf media directly. I thought it did both but I don't know why I think that. It sounds like we'd have to go the aaf route or ale route to then import the RedCineX QT files based on those bins. Would that allow for the addition of Tape Names to then relink using ama?
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No. Imports link to imports. AMA links to AMA.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Will Red CineX generated clips still allow for an ama relink to the original R3D files? So far our simple ama all avid test has worked fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John- dont fear the redcine-x!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________
> > > > > > Greg Huson
> > > > > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > > > > Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > > > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > > > > > DigitalServicsStation.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:16 AM, "Job ter Burg (L2B)" <Job_L2@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > MC works with Rocket, but ONLY during transcode (not playback) and ONLY when the Media Creation R3D Setting is set to Full Debayer.
> > > > > > > Also, it requires a very specific combination of Red Rocket firmware and driver versions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you install RedCine-X on the same system, that can use the Rocket card as well and gives you more options (lower Debayer settings for instance).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 28 apr. 2012, at 00:40, John Moore wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can someone remind me if Avid supports Red Rocket when dealing with Red ama linked transcoding to Avid media?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Advice for restoring old project

Yes, Mac Avid 6.01 - the system quarantines all the .omf files that are actually audio files.

gh
----------------------------------------------------
Greg Huson
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Post Production / Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092
www.DigitalServiceStation.com
greg (at) SecretHQ.com
www.SecretHQ.com




On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Dom Q. Silverio wrote:

> Are you on a Mac Avid?
> I think Mac Avid still supports SD2, at least it did with MC v2.x
> Adrenaline.
>
> On 4/28/2012 11:43 PM, Greg Huson wrote:
> > I'm helping a client restore an old project. The media is AVR4s on SCSI drives. I'm able to copy all the media to newer drives, and the picture works fine. However, the AUDIO files, though labeled as .omf are quarantined during scanning. I assumed they're SD2 files, given the age of the project, yet if play them using another application (quicktime, VLC, something less... uh... discerning) they play fine and sound correct. Further, if relabel them as .aif files, then import them into media composer, they play correctly, but, of course, they're not linked to the original picture file.
> >
> > How do I get these files NOT to quarantine, and also to relink with the picture? Is there an old assistant trick I can use? Obviously they'd like to get their working cut back (the project opens OK) and there's a boatload of source footage - so hand-linking all the audio isn't really practical, though I tested it, and merely by matching duration and tape number with the file name, it's not impossible to find the right audio for the right picture. (Thought that doesn't relink the audio into the cut.)
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > gh
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Greg Huson
> > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > Post Production / Production
> > Culver City, CA
> > 323 677 2092
> > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > www.SecretHQ.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Advice for restoring old project

 

Are you on a Mac Avid?
I think Mac Avid still supports SD2, at least it did with MC v2.x
Adrenaline.

On 4/28/2012 11:43 PM, Greg Huson wrote:
> I'm helping a client restore an old project. The media is AVR4s on SCSI drives. I'm able to copy all the media to newer drives, and the picture works fine. However, the AUDIO files, though labeled as .omf are quarantined during scanning. I assumed they're SD2 files, given the age of the project, yet if play them using another application (quicktime, VLC, something less... uh... discerning) they play fine and sound correct. Further, if relabel them as .aif files, then import them into media composer, they play correctly, but, of course, they're not linked to the original picture file.
>
> How do I get these files NOT to quarantine, and also to relink with the picture? Is there an old assistant trick I can use? Obviously they'd like to get their working cut back (the project opens OK) and there's a boatload of source footage - so hand-linking all the audio isn't really practical, though I tested it, and merely by matching duration and tape number with the file name, it's not impossible to find the right audio for the right picture. (Thought that doesn't relink the audio into the cut.)
>
> Anyone?
>
> gh
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Greg Huson
> Secret Headquarters, Inc
> Post Production / Production
> Culver City, CA
> 323 677 2092
> www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> www.SecretHQ.com
>
>
>
>
>
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[Avid-L2] Advice for restoring old project

 

I'm helping a client restore an old project. The media is AVR4s on SCSI drives. I'm able to copy all the media to newer drives, and the picture works fine. However, the AUDIO files, though labeled as .omf are quarantined during scanning. I assumed they're SD2 files, given the age of the project, yet if play them using another application (quicktime, VLC, something less... uh... discerning) they play fine and sound correct. Further, if relabel them as .aif files, then import them into media composer, they play correctly, but, of course, they're not linked to the original picture file.

How do I get these files NOT to quarantine, and also to relink with the picture? Is there an old assistant trick I can use? Obviously they'd like to get their working cut back (the project opens OK) and there's a boatload of source footage - so hand-linking all the audio isn't really practical, though I tested it, and merely by matching duration and tape number with the file name, it's not impossible to find the right audio for the right picture. (Thought that doesn't relink the audio into the cut.)

Anyone?

gh
----------------------------------------------------
Greg Huson
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Post Production / Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092
www.DigitalServiceStation.com
greg (at) SecretHQ.com
www.SecretHQ.com

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[Avid-L2] Re: Does Red Rocket accellerate Avid Red ama workflows?

 

PS: I would say ask Bob Russo but apparently he is leaving or has left Avid. :-(

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> Test it.
>
> I can tell you that if the files are imported originally, I have to go the EDL, RedCineX conform, retranscode at higher rez, drop media in and import AAF, then relink route.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> >
> > So that means that if we created mxf 10:1 avid media using RedCineX and dropped those into an existing avidmediafiles folder and brought the clips in using media tool those clips would be considered imports? Am I confused about RedCineX's functionality here. Does it only create QT files for Avid import or does it also create Avid mxf media directly. I thought it did both but I don't know why I think that. It sounds like we'd have to go the aaf route or ale route to then import the RedCineX QT files based on those bins. Would that allow for the addition of Tape Names to then relink using ama?
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> > >
> > > No. Imports link to imports. AMA links to AMA.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Will Red CineX generated clips still allow for an ama relink to the original R3D files? So far our simple ama all avid test has worked fine.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > John- dont fear the redcine-x!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hh
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________
> > > > > Greg Huson
> > > > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > > > Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > > > > DigitalServicsStation.com
> > > > >
> > > > > On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:16 AM, "Job ter Burg (L2B)" <Job_L2@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MC works with Rocket, but ONLY during transcode (not playback) and ONLY when the Media Creation R3D Setting is set to Full Debayer.
> > > > > > Also, it requires a very specific combination of Red Rocket firmware and driver versions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you install RedCine-X on the same system, that can use the Rocket card as well and gives you more options (lower Debayer settings for instance).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 28 apr. 2012, at 00:40, John Moore wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can someone remind me if Avid supports Red Rocket when dealing with Red ama linked transcoding to Avid media?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Does Red Rocket accellerate Avid Red ama workflows?

 

Test it.

I can tell you that if the files are imported originally, I have to go the EDL, RedCineX conform, retranscode at higher rez, drop media in and import AAF, then relink route.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> So that means that if we created mxf 10:1 avid media using RedCineX and dropped those into an existing avidmediafiles folder and brought the clips in using media tool those clips would be considered imports? Am I confused about RedCineX's functionality here. Does it only create QT files for Avid import or does it also create Avid mxf media directly. I thought it did both but I don't know why I think that. It sounds like we'd have to go the aaf route or ale route to then import the RedCineX QT files based on those bins. Would that allow for the addition of Tape Names to then relink using ama?
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> >
> > No. Imports link to imports. AMA links to AMA.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Will Red CineX generated clips still allow for an ama relink to the original R3D files? So far our simple ama all avid test has worked fine.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John- dont fear the redcine-x!
> > > >
> > > > Hh
> > > >
> > > > ________________________
> > > > Greg Huson
> > > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > > Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > > > DigitalServicsStation.com
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:16 AM, "Job ter Burg (L2B)" <Job_L2@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > MC works with Rocket, but ONLY during transcode (not playback) and ONLY when the Media Creation R3D Setting is set to Full Debayer.
> > > > > Also, it requires a very specific combination of Red Rocket firmware and driver versions.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you install RedCine-X on the same system, that can use the Rocket card as well and gives you more options (lower Debayer settings for instance).
> > > > >
> > > > > On 28 apr. 2012, at 00:40, John Moore wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can someone remind me if Avid supports Red Rocket when dealing with Red ama linked transcoding to Avid media?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Does Red Rocket accellerate Avid Red ama workflows?

 

So that means that if we created mxf 10:1 avid media using RedCineX and dropped those into an existing avidmediafiles folder and brought the clips in using media tool those clips would be considered imports? Am I confused about RedCineX's functionality here. Does it only create QT files for Avid import or does it also create Avid mxf media directly. I thought it did both but I don't know why I think that. It sounds like we'd have to go the aaf route or ale route to then import the RedCineX QT files based on those bins. Would that allow for the addition of Tape Names to then relink using ama?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> No. Imports link to imports. AMA links to AMA.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> >
> > Will Red CineX generated clips still allow for an ama relink to the original R3D files? So far our simple ama all avid test has worked fine.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > John- dont fear the redcine-x!
> > >
> > > Hh
> > >
> > > ________________________
> > > Greg Huson
> > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > > DigitalServicsStation.com
> > >
> > > On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:16 AM, "Job ter Burg (L2B)" <Job_L2@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > MC works with Rocket, but ONLY during transcode (not playback) and ONLY when the Media Creation R3D Setting is set to Full Debayer.
> > > > Also, it requires a very specific combination of Red Rocket firmware and driver versions.
> > > >
> > > > If you install RedCine-X on the same system, that can use the Rocket card as well and gives you more options (lower Debayer settings for instance).
> > > >
> > > > On 28 apr. 2012, at 00:40, John Moore wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Can someone remind me if Avid supports Red Rocket when dealing with Red ama linked transcoding to Avid media?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Does Red Rocket accellerate Avid Red ama workflows?

 

No. Imports link to imports. AMA links to AMA.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> Will Red CineX generated clips still allow for an ama relink to the original R3D files? So far our simple ama all avid test has worked fine.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> >
> > John- dont fear the redcine-x!
> >
> > Hh
> >
> > ________________________
> > Greg Huson
> > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > www.SecretHQ.com
> > DigitalServicsStation.com
> >
> > On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:16 AM, "Job ter Burg (L2B)" <Job_L2@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > MC works with Rocket, but ONLY during transcode (not playback) and ONLY when the Media Creation R3D Setting is set to Full Debayer.
> > > Also, it requires a very specific combination of Red Rocket firmware and driver versions.
> > >
> > > If you install RedCine-X on the same system, that can use the Rocket card as well and gives you more options (lower Debayer settings for instance).
> > >
> > > On 28 apr. 2012, at 00:40, John Moore wrote:
> > >
> > > > Can someone remind me if Avid supports Red Rocket when dealing with Red ama linked transcoding to Avid media?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Does Red Rocket accellerate Avid Red ama workflows?

 

Will Red CineX generated clips still allow for an ama relink to the original R3D files? So far our simple ama all avid test has worked fine.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@...> wrote:
>
> John- dont fear the redcine-x!
>
> Hh
>
> ________________________
> Greg Huson
> Secret Headquarters, Inc
> Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> www.SecretHQ.com
> DigitalServicsStation.com
>
> On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:16 AM, "Job ter Burg (L2B)" <Job_L2@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > MC works with Rocket, but ONLY during transcode (not playback) and ONLY when the Media Creation R3D Setting is set to Full Debayer.
> > Also, it requires a very specific combination of Red Rocket firmware and driver versions.
> >
> > If you install RedCine-X on the same system, that can use the Rocket card as well and gives you more options (lower Debayer settings for instance).
> >
> > On 28 apr. 2012, at 00:40, John Moore wrote:
> >
> > > Can someone remind me if Avid supports Red Rocket when dealing with Red ama linked transcoding to Avid media?
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Is there an Avid bug-report email address?

 



--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Marianna" <marianna.montague@...> wrote:

<<The community.avid.com Video Pro forums have an escalation process. The moderators of the forums - and there are many of them - have specific parameters and guidelines to escalate issues. They determine the issue, steps to reproduce and any other nuggets that can help us pin point the problem and a priority level. >>

That sounds like what I said, but in more words. :-0

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> Go to the official Avid forums here: <<http://community.avid.com/forums/>>
>
> A lot of folks at Avid interact there, and the many moderators can get verified bugs escalated.

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Re: [Avid-L2] In camera editing taken to an extreme

 

After effects and a little obsessive compulsiveness. Watch the "behind
the scenes" video. It's pretty cool.

They cut a track, then took it into After Effects and set up 4 camera views.

Mark

On 4/28/12 5:23 PM, john@digitalcut.com wrote:
>
> It's gotta be cgi
>
> On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Jim Feeley <jfeeley@gmail.com
> <mailto:jfeeley%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > Holy crap that's amazing.
> >
> > Jim Feeley
> > jfeeley@gmail.com <mailto:jfeeley%40gmail.com>
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
> >
> > > <<http://tinyurl.com/88blmze>>
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] In camera editing taken to an extreme

 

It's gotta be cgi

On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Jim Feeley <jfeeley@gmail.com> wrote:

> Holy crap that's amazing.
>
> Jim Feeley
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> On Apr 27, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
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> > <<http://tinyurl.com/88blmze>>
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Re: [Avid-L2] In camera editing taken to an extreme

 

Holy crap that's amazing.

Jim Feeley
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On Apr 27, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Terence Curren wrote:

> <<http://tinyurl.com/88blmze>>

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