Saturday, April 23, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: OT: Mac vs. PC Stereotypes - CNN

 

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[Avid-L2] Proper practices for file based offline/online

 

Just trying to "Keep It Simple Stupid" KISS when it comes to file based work flows.  I don't think there is a one flow fits all solution but I'm trying to sort out a simple approach overall when people are planning to offline and online later.  My gut feeling is AMA is not the best approach in these situations given the clips going offline for various reasons and an overall lack of stability.  Are there any formats that will only work through AMA?  Are there certain formats that work better if imported through ama as opposed to a traditional import.  P2 comes to mind with the ability to turn off ama and do the original P2 import procedure.  I seem to recall posts about more metadata coming through with ama but I'm not sure.  I haven't had to sort out too many odd work flows recently so I'm trying to keep up on the gotchas that exist.

Bottom line if I tell people to always import to avid media is that the best method for assuring a proper conform later?  The allure of ama and no import is no doubt leading to more problematic onlines or is it?  Also mixed frame rate timelines seem to be a blessing and a curse when it comes to online, no batch import for example where the solution is to decompose the imports and then create a project for each frame rate used seems a bit complex but I assume that is working.  I hope others can shed some light on the proper offline check list in the brave new mixed format/media world.

John Moore

Barking Trout Productions

Studio City, CA

bigfish@pacbell.net

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[Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?

 

Locomotives???

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Ulf Sodergren <usodergren@...> wrote:
>
> Lok
>
> Vänliga hälsningar/Best regards
> Ulf Södergren
>
> U-Film
> Tegelgårdsgatan 24
> 211 33 Malmö
> Sweden
>
> phone: +46 707698549
>
> www.ufilm.se
>
> 23 apr 2011 kl. 23:04 skrev "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...>:
>
> > I wish! The reality is that the higher end clients know they are fine with 4:2:2 DNxHD. It's always the really low budget guys who have to do "2K, 4K, 4:4:4 because that's the best!" even though it will be lucky to get a DVD release...
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, i can take the twenty projects.
> > > Well, i'm running a one man shop nowadays, and don't do a lot of editing,
> > > and i STILL have 8 projects at the same time.
> > > BUT, (and this is where i want to make my point (for those who don't know
> > > me...)
> > >
> > > If George Lucas is satisfied with shooting HDcam for a feature, and your
> > > clients want uncompressed RGB, they have to pay a premium.
> > > Now, if clients pay a premium, giving them dedicated storage (solid state if
> > > needed for speed) is nothing compared to the coffee / custom clothed coffee
> > > girls they also require to keep them happy.
> > >
> > > Right?
> > >
> > > Bouke (who really needs to set up a company in tinseltown...)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > VideoToolShed
> > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > The Netherlands
> > > +31 24 3553311
> > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > For large files:
> > > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
> > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:01 PM
> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Bouke,
> > >
> > > At any given time we can have twenty or more projects on our shared
> > > storage. That is a lot of storage. Add to that multiple systems hitting
> > > those at the same time and you need the bandwidth.
> > >
> > > Also, RAID 5 doesn't deliver the performance needed for 4:4:4 HD. So, I have
> > > to mirror to protect the data from accidental loss. Now it eats up twice as
> > > much space. It's amazing how fast 36 TB disappears in this situation.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Then please enlighten me what finishing is about, as i still fail to see
> > > > where the huge amount of data comes from...
> > > > (speed i can understand though, but that is hardly a problem nowadays...)
> > > >
> > > > Bouke
> > > >
> > > > VideoToolShed
> > > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > > The Netherlands
> > > > +31 24 3553311
> > > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > > For large files:
> > > > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
> > > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:13 PM
> > > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is for finishing. If we were only working on one project at a time,
> > > > no
> > > > problem with 3TB of storage. Fortunately, that is not the case here.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > eeer, that is, what, 200 MB / sec?
> > > > > So a feature fills 3 terrabyte including renders and stuff?
> > > > > Isn't this a typical reason to do offline / conform?
> > > > > (iow, i don't see the problem (yet...))
> > > > >
> > > > > Bouke
> > > > >
> > > > > VideoToolShed
> > > > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > > > The Netherlands
> > > > > +31 24 3553311
> > > > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > > > For large files:
> > > > > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
> > > > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For 4:4:4, you have ONE option. Uncompressed 10 bit. Yeah I know, tons
> > > > > of
> > > > > high throughput storage. Doing a feature on it right now.
> > > > >
> > > > > The way you capture and output is through Dual Link through the Nitris
> > > > > DX.
> > > > > Remember, they have to HD inputs and outputs.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Fabrice Altman" <fabricealtman@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > how is Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow made possible ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This from the Symphony about page :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.avid.com/US/products/Symphony-Nitris-DX
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Together, you get the real-time horsepower you need for
> > > > > > high-throughput,
> > > > > > high-quality HD RGB 4:4:4 and SD finishing."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AFAIK, DNxHD is 4:2:2. Also you would need a Dual Link or 3G SDI
> > > > > > output from the DX BOB which does not seem to be supported either.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So how is 4:4:4 workflow made possible ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > F.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?

 

Lok

Vänliga hälsningar/Best regards
Ulf Södergren

U-Film
Tegelgårdsgatan 24
211 33 Malmö
Sweden

phone: +46 707698549

www.ufilm.se

23 apr 2011 kl. 23:04 skrev "Terence Curren" <tcurren@aol.com>:

> I wish! The reality is that the higher end clients know they are fine with 4:2:2 DNxHD. It's always the really low budget guys who have to do "2K, 4K, 4:4:4 because that's the best!" even though it will be lucky to get a DVD release...
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, i can take the twenty projects.
> > Well, i'm running a one man shop nowadays, and don't do a lot of editing,
> > and i STILL have 8 projects at the same time.
> > BUT, (and this is where i want to make my point (for those who don't know
> > me...)
> >
> > If George Lucas is satisfied with shooting HDcam for a feature, and your
> > clients want uncompressed RGB, they have to pay a premium.
> > Now, if clients pay a premium, giving them dedicated storage (solid state if
> > needed for speed) is nothing compared to the coffee / custom clothed coffee
> > girls they also require to keep them happy.
> >
> > Right?
> >
> > Bouke (who really needs to set up a company in tinseltown...)
> >
> >
> >
> > VideoToolShed
> > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > The Netherlands
> > +31 24 3553311
> > www.videotoolshed.com
> > For large files:
> > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...>
> > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:01 PM
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
> >
> >
> > Bouke,
> >
> > At any given time we can have twenty or more projects on our shared
> > storage. That is a lot of storage. Add to that multiple systems hitting
> > those at the same time and you need the bandwidth.
> >
> > Also, RAID 5 doesn't deliver the performance needed for 4:4:4 HD. So, I have
> > to mirror to protect the data from accidental loss. Now it eats up twice as
> > much space. It's amazing how fast 36 TB disappears in this situation.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Then please enlighten me what finishing is about, as i still fail to see
> > > where the huge amount of data comes from...
> > > (speed i can understand though, but that is hardly a problem nowadays...)
> > >
> > > Bouke
> > >
> > > VideoToolShed
> > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > The Netherlands
> > > +31 24 3553311
> > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > For large files:
> > > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
> > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:13 PM
> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
> > >
> > >
> > > This is for finishing. If we were only working on one project at a time,
> > > no
> > > problem with 3TB of storage. Fortunately, that is not the case here.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > eeer, that is, what, 200 MB / sec?
> > > > So a feature fills 3 terrabyte including renders and stuff?
> > > > Isn't this a typical reason to do offline / conform?
> > > > (iow, i don't see the problem (yet...))
> > > >
> > > > Bouke
> > > >
> > > > VideoToolShed
> > > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > > The Netherlands
> > > > +31 24 3553311
> > > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > > For large files:
> > > > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
> > > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:36 PM
> > > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For 4:4:4, you have ONE option. Uncompressed 10 bit. Yeah I know, tons
> > > > of
> > > > high throughput storage. Doing a feature on it right now.
> > > >
> > > > The way you capture and output is through Dual Link through the Nitris
> > > > DX.
> > > > Remember, they have to HD inputs and outputs.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Fabrice Altman" <fabricealtman@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > how is Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow made possible ?
> > > > >
> > > > > This from the Symphony about page :
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.avid.com/US/products/Symphony-Nitris-DX
> > > > >
> > > > > "Together, you get the real-time horsepower you need for
> > > > > high-throughput,
> > > > > high-quality HD RGB 4:4:4 and SD finishing."
> > > > >
> > > > > AFAIK, DNxHD is 4:2:2. Also you would need a Dual Link or 3G SDI
> > > > > output from the DX BOB which does not seem to be supported either.
> > > > >
> > > > > So how is 4:4:4 workflow made possible ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > F.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Are you app-nostic?

 

while we're making excuses, time for me to say goodnight.
(for all the things i did and did not do....)

Bouke

VideoToolShed
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Feeley" <jfeeley@gmail.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:09 PM
Subject: Fwd: [Avid-L2] Re: Are you app-nostic?

> Well that was pretty dopey of me. I filter FCP-L and Avid-L2 into the
> same mailbox. This post was on Avid-L2, a list I don't moderate. I
> still think the comment was inappropriate, but it's not my place to
> take any moderation actions on Avid-L2... not that I could anyway.
>
> Jeff, I'm sorry about my post below.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Jim Feeley <jfeeley@gmail.com>
>> Date: April 23, 2011 2:01:39 PM PDT
>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Are you app-nostic?
>>
>> That was inappropriate. Don't do it again. Wait, you won't for at
>> least a while.
>>
>> Jim
>> FCP-L moderator
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Multimediac wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Well... it's OK to be Christian if you ...
>
>

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Fwd: [Avid-L2] Re: Are you app-nostic?

 

Well that was pretty dopey of me. I filter FCP-L and Avid-L2 into the
same mailbox. This post was on Avid-L2, a list I don't moderate. I
still think the comment was inappropriate, but it's not my place to
take any moderation actions on Avid-L2... not that I could anyway.

Jeff, I'm sorry about my post below.

Jim

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jim Feeley <jfeeley@gmail.com>
> Date: April 23, 2011 2:01:39 PM PDT
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Are you app-nostic?
>
> That was inappropriate. Don't do it again. Wait, you won't for at
> least a while.
>
> Jim
> FCP-L moderator
>
> On Apr 23, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Multimediac wrote:
>
>>
>> Well... it's OK to be Christian if you ...

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Are you app-nostic?

 

Eer, dude....
Your sig line indicates you're an FCP moderator.

This is an Avid list!
Butt out!

Bouke (whos studios are build by a guy who actually thinks the world isn't
older than a few thousand lists, but does not care cause a: he's a nice guy,
b: he did a good job...)

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The Netherlands
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Feeley" <jfeeley@gmail.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Are you app-nostic?

> That was inappropriate. Don't do it again. Wait, you won't for at
> least a while.
>
> Jim
> FCP-L moderator
>
> On Apr 23, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Multimediac wrote:
>
>>
>> Well... it's OK to be Christian if you ...
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Hijack, was, How to scan a drive

 

Can you elaborate? I'm not smart enough to realize the application of this.

Steve Hullfish
contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"

On Apr 23, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Bouke wrote:

> Going to hijack the thread.
> A while ago there was a question from someone to create something that could
> index mediafiles (filename, location and timecode/reelname (if any)),
> and optionally (partial) copy them based on an EDL / XML / ALE / Log list.
> I've investigated in that and i can do so for QT, MXF (sony/ikegami/canon),
> Avid MXF, DPX, Red, Avi and MpegII.
> (I've actually made a prototype)
> But, the original guy asking for it never mailed back, so the question is
> now, is there any of you needing this?

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Are you app-nostic?

And you can be a Christian and not like or believe any of those things. Also Catholicism and Christianity are not the same thing.

Steve Hullfish
contributor: www.provideocoalition.com

On Apr 23, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Multimediac wrote:

>
> Well... it's OK to be Christian if you like the Spanish Inquisition, Burning witches in Salem, over-population, and believe the universe is 4,000 years old.
>
> PS: we're not supposed to talk about religion on the L.
>
> g
>
> Is it OK for a Christian to be app-nostic?
>
> Steve Hullfish
> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
>
> On Apr 23, 2011, at 1:22 AM, Terence Curren wrote:
>
> > And sometimes these programs make me apoplectic!
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dawkins <dawk2@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am Appathetic...
> > >
> > > DD
> > >
> > > On 4/22/2011 6:16 PM, Jim Feeley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:27 AM, oliverpetersvidy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think we are all app-nostic. We hate them all. ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > I think that's all Apptheist.
> > > >
> > > > Remember the great BBEdit slogan, "It sucks less"?
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?

 

I wish! The reality is that the higher end clients know they are fine with 4:2:2 DNxHD. It's always the really low budget guys who have to do "2K, 4K, 4:4:4 because that's the best!" even though it will be lucky to get a DVD release...

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@...> wrote:
>
> Ok, i can take the twenty projects.
> Well, i'm running a one man shop nowadays, and don't do a lot of editing,
> and i STILL have 8 projects at the same time.
> BUT, (and this is where i want to make my point (for those who don't know
> me...)
>
> If George Lucas is satisfied with shooting HDcam for a feature, and your
> clients want uncompressed RGB, they have to pay a premium.
> Now, if clients pay a premium, giving them dedicated storage (solid state if
> needed for speed) is nothing compared to the coffee / custom clothed coffee
> girls they also require to keep them happy.
>
> Right?
>
> Bouke (who really needs to set up a company in tinseltown...)
>
>
>
> VideoToolShed
> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> The Netherlands
> +31 24 3553311
> www.videotoolshed.com
> For large files:
> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:01 PM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
>
>
> Bouke,
>
> At any given time we can have twenty or more projects on our shared
> storage. That is a lot of storage. Add to that multiple systems hitting
> those at the same time and you need the bandwidth.
>
> Also, RAID 5 doesn't deliver the performance needed for 4:4:4 HD. So, I have
> to mirror to protect the data from accidental loss. Now it eats up twice as
> much space. It's amazing how fast 36 TB disappears in this situation.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@> wrote:
> >
> > Then please enlighten me what finishing is about, as i still fail to see
> > where the huge amount of data comes from...
> > (speed i can understand though, but that is hardly a problem nowadays...)
> >
> > Bouke
> >
> > VideoToolShed
> > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > The Netherlands
> > +31 24 3553311
> > www.videotoolshed.com
> > For large files:
> > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
> > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:13 PM
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
> >
> >
> > This is for finishing. If we were only working on one project at a time,
> > no
> > problem with 3TB of storage. Fortunately, that is not the case here.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@> wrote:
> > >
> > > eeer, that is, what, 200 MB / sec?
> > > So a feature fills 3 terrabyte including renders and stuff?
> > > Isn't this a typical reason to do offline / conform?
> > > (iow, i don't see the problem (yet...))
> > >
> > > Bouke
> > >
> > > VideoToolShed
> > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > The Netherlands
> > > +31 24 3553311
> > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > For large files:
> > > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
> > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:36 PM
> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
> > >
> > >
> > > For 4:4:4, you have ONE option. Uncompressed 10 bit. Yeah I know, tons
> > > of
> > > high throughput storage. Doing a feature on it right now.
> > >
> > > The way you capture and output is through Dual Link through the Nitris
> > > DX.
> > > Remember, they have to HD inputs and outputs.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Fabrice Altman" <fabricealtman@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > how is Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow made possible ?
> > > >
> > > > This from the Symphony about page :
> > > >
> > > > http://www.avid.com/US/products/Symphony-Nitris-DX
> > > >
> > > > "Together, you get the real-time horsepower you need for
> > > > high-throughput,
> > > > high-quality HD RGB 4:4:4 and SD finishing."
> > > >
> > > > AFAIK, DNxHD is 4:2:2. Also you would need a Dual Link or 3G SDI
> > > > output from the DX BOB which does not seem to be supported either.
> > > >
> > > > So how is 4:4:4 workflow made possible ?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > F.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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