Re: [Avid-L2] Old Media Drives

Thanks Jo!

It does look like ethernet is going to be the way to go -- if that doesn't work, I'll try to install an additional drive in the desktop and see if that works.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and feedback!  I'll be able to get to this in the next month or so, and I'll keep everyone informed!

Then we'll talk about ancient Avid donations --   :-)

-- Sol

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 05:55:49 PM EDT, Jo's Mailinglists <lists@filter-media.net> wrote:

Sol,

by my guess - and please others prove me wrong - the easiest would be to utilise the 10Base-T Ethernet.

Since time is kinda not crucial here, additional extensions are only and rarely available:

10Base-T be it.

Internal IDE/ATA runs on 5 MBit/sec, SCSI way ore - but you need this bus to connect the sources.

Challenge is: how to connect MacOs 9.x to the new world?

Considered you have a working Ethernet Card 10Base-T (RJ45) you can hook it up directly or via any capable hub/switch to the actual world.

Remember: there is no SMB file sharing, only Apple File Protocol (AFP) will work.

-> AFP is depreciated in the latest version (Montery) -> make sure your target can run AFP (System Preferences/Sharin/Options)

set network adapter in MacOS 9.x accordingly your SOHO.

reboot PowerMac 3G Desktop and destination (just for the heck of it)

try to connect to the Host.

If this fails: try any MacOS9 current ftp and transfer that way

hth

Best

Jo

Jochen "Jo" Hermann

filter Media Postproduction

Salzburg, Austria

On 12. Aug 2022, at 14:42, Sol Fischler via groups.io <sol.fischler=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi All —

I still have my old 1999 Avid XL system, running on a PowerPC G3 — pre-USB, pre-firewire. 

I still have the SCSI docks & drives that went along with this system.  I'd like to save a lot of the media that's still on the drives before I finally get rid of the system -- family stuff, etc. 

I also have a mid-2010 Mac Pro desktop running OS 10.9.5, and a MacBook Pro running OS 10.15.7.

My question: is there any way either to connect this Mac to a more modern Mac (ethernet to ethernet…?) and access the media that way, or are there SCSI cards that would work in the Mac Pro and allow me to connect the drives directly? 

Some of the drives are striped pairs, and some might not be…  I don't remember if the MediaDock is striped pairs or not.

…or is there any other way at all to get the media off the drives?

Thanks in advance!

-- Sol

Re: [Avid-L2] Old Media Drives

Sol,

by my guess - and please others prove me wrong - the easiest would be to utilise the 10Base-T Ethernet.

Since time is kinda not crucial here, additional extensions are only and rarely available:

10Base-T be it.

Internal IDE/ATA runs on 5 MBit/sec, SCSI way ore - but you need this bus to connect the sources.

Challenge is: how to connect MacOs 9.x to the new world?

Considered you have a working Ethernet Card 10Base-T (RJ45) you can hook it up directly or via any capable hub/switch to the actual world.

Remember: there is no SMB file sharing, only Apple File Protocol (AFP) will work.

-> AFP is depreciated in the latest version (Montery) -> make sure your target can run AFP (System Preferences/Sharin/Options)

set network adapter in MacOS 9.x accordingly your SOHO.

reboot PowerMac 3G Desktop and destination (just for the heck of it)

try to connect to the Host.

If this fails: try any MacOS9 current ftp and transfer that way

hth

Best

Jo

Jochen "Jo" Hermann

filter Media Postproduction

Salzburg, Austria

On 12. Aug 2022, at 14:42, Sol Fischler via groups.io <sol.fischler=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi All —

I still have my old 1999 Avid XL system, running on a PowerPC G3 — pre-USB, pre-firewire. 

I still have the SCSI docks & drives that went along with this system.  I'd like to save a lot of the media that's still on the drives before I finally get rid of the system -- family stuff, etc. 

I also have a mid-2010 Mac Pro desktop running OS 10.9.5, and a MacBook Pro running OS 10.15.7.

My question: is there any way either to connect this Mac to a more modern Mac (ethernet to ethernet…?) and access the media that way, or are there SCSI cards that would work in the Mac Pro and allow me to connect the drives directly? 

Some of the drives are striped pairs, and some might not be…  I don't remember if the MediaDock is striped pairs or not.

…or is there any other way at all to get the media off the drives?

Thanks in advance!

-- Sol

Re: [Avid-L2] Offline media and other oddities

One thing I've been seeing a bit in the last year or two is somehow my avidmediafiles sub folder, like "1" "2" etc... or the main avidmediafiles folder gets whacked and I can't get the databases to rebuild.  When it happens I put an X in front of the avidmediafiles folder and then create a new title or some media, (Thanks Titler+ NOT) still have the old title tool, and then migrate the problem media into the newly created subfolder.  Nothing new about the fix but I've just seen the media folders/subfolders get wonky more than I use to.

You said you rebuilt the databases so I doubt this is your issue.

Can you drag the mob file into a new bin and see if the clips show up online?

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Re: [Avid-L2] test

It works for me -- unfortunately, I had nothing intelligent to offer re: your offline issues --

I hope someone can be of help...   :-)

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[Avid-L2] Offline media and other oddities

HI

I've been offllist for quite some time due to being on projects that are Premiere Pro.  I am back on my avid MC 2021.9 to move a doc and all media to another drive.  Without Media Mover (no longer works)  Its not as easy as used to be but I used MDV and that seems to work pretty well.

My problem is several odd things.   First, there are many clips offline yet when I link back the media files exist in the media folder.  But they won't relink and will not batch import.   When I try to import I get get the mixed frame rate issue (though they are not mixed) and using the normal drop down import media methods, nothing happens.  I used Source browser and was able to import a clip but I don't want to import all the media as new files.

So first off, why is my media offline if it exists in the media folder?  And secondly why won't the files re-import?   Yes I rebuild data bases etc.

Any ideas?

Thanks 

Lou

Lou Wirth Productions
3210 Kerner Boulevard
Suite 302
San Rafael, CA 94901
www.louwirth.com
415-706-8992p

[Avid-L2] Offline media and other oddities

HI

I've been offllist for quite some time due to being on projects that are Premiere Pro.  I am back on my avid MC 2021.9 to move a doc and all media to another drive.  Without Media Mover (no longer works)  Its not as easy as used to be but I used MDV and that seems to work pretty well.

My problem is several odd things.   First, there are many clips offline yet when I link back the media files exist in the media folder.  But they won't relink and will not batch import.   When I try to import I get get the mixed frame rate issue (though they are not mixed) and using the normal drop down import media methods, nothing happens.  I used Source browser and was able to import a clip but I don't want to import all the media as new files.

So first off, why is my media offline if it exists in the media folder?  And secondly why won't the files re-import?   Yes I rebuild data bases etc.

Any ideas?

Thanks 

Lou

Lou Wirth Productions
3210 Kerner Boulevard
Suite 302
San Rafael, CA 94901
www.louwirth.com
415-706-8992p

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