Saturday, March 19, 2011

[Avid-L2] HDCAM F-500 throughput level changes

 

We have a client who is using our Sony HDCAM F-500 deck. The client states that when inputing bars, the deck changes the video levels on throughput (e to e). 100 IRE jumps to 107 IRE and Black level drops. Also the decks input check button shows input bars are correct. And the client states that one of his known HDCAM masters plays back fine.

Any ideas of what might be going wrong here? I have never had this happen before. Is this deck broken or is there some internal setting that may cause this issue?

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Avid-FCP-Premiere setup-Advice?

But what of the much blogged about "pro editors were shown the coming FCP on the Apple campus recently, 'jawdropping' 'awesome' blabla etc.. ?
Owen


On Mar 19, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Terence Curren wrote:

> iMovie Pro. :-0
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4smdddn
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, op <owen@...> wrote:
> >
> > "On the other hand, there may not be a lot of FCP upgrades in the traditional sense anymore. :-0"
> >
> > What do you mean?
> >
> > owen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
> >
> > > On the other hand, there may not be a lot of FCP upgrades in the traditional sense anymore. :-0
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[Avid-L2] JVC Pro Verite monitor for colour grading

 

I wonder if anyone has used this monitor or has an opinion about how
suitable it would be for simple 'one-light' colour grading of an HD
show. Dates from 2008, specs sound pretty good to me...

The full monitor model number is JVCPro DT-V24L3DU.

Most likely would be feeding the monitor HDMI from a 1080p/23.976
project in MC 5.0.3.5 via an MXO2 Mini box.

Thanks,
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[Avid-L2] Re: Avid-FCP-Premiere setup-Advice?

 

iMovie Pro. :-0

http://tinyurl.com/4smdddn

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, op <owen@...> wrote:
>
> "On the other hand, there may not be a lot of FCP upgrades in the traditional sense anymore. :-0"
>
> What do you mean?
>
> owen
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
>
> > On the other hand, there may not be a lot of FCP upgrades in the traditional sense anymore. :-0
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[Avid-L2] Re: Avid-FCP-Premiere setup-Advice?

 

> phil2903c wrote:
> So what does this really mean in real-world use...encode-decode? What is
> an example of DX vs Io? I can't seem to find any examples for this.

The hardware in Nitris DX is decoding the DNxHD codec. Also AVC-Intra with the new module. Also thin raster 1440 and 960 is scaled by the hardware to 1920 and 1280 respectively. I presume it also adds pulldown for 23.98 to 29.97 conversions.

The Io Express (and also the other cards) does none of this (except maybe the pulldown cadence). This means the CPU has to do the work in order to present the Io Express with full raster, uncompressed SD or HD video.

Depending on the horsepower of your machine, this will be the difference of several layers of real-time playback. It varies with format and effects used. On a fast machine, maybe 4 or 5 layers on the Io Express and 7+ on the Nitris DX (assuming all DNxHD) - but I'm just making a guess.

- Oliver

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: upgrade license issue from 5.0-5.5

 

The software was purchased with the Io Express box and we were given 5.0 which
should be a free upgrade. I guess I'll have to chat with Avid on Monday to find
out what I need to do to activate the upgrade.

Jason Gillet
Editor/Engineer
Moving Pictures NYC

________________________________
From: jeffsengpiehl <jeffsengpiehl@yahoo.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 2:40:11 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: upgrade license issue from 5.0-5.5

Should have come with an upgrade SN#, with no numbers in it. THe upgrade SN#
field will NOT accept any numbers.

Should be in the email.

JDS

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jason Gillet <jsg5403@...> wrote:
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> I'm trying to install a new version of 5.5. The software I purchased this week

> came as a 5.0.3 License. I installed the software then registered it with Avid

> as 5.5. It worked fine. Now I'm trying to install as 5.5. I downloaded the
> versioner as mentioned in the instructions placed it in the MC app folder and
> tried to upgrade and it's not accepting the SN.
>
> Is there something else I'm missing?
>
> Jason Gillet
> Editor/Engineer
> Moving Pictures NYC
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Scott Ham <scottham.list@...>
> To: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 9:57:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] MC5 and ATI 5770
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Jeff Hedberg <jeff@...> wrote:
>
> > Scott,
> >
> > I've got one machine running the ATI Radeon HD 5770 card.
> > No complaints at all.
> > In fact, this is my favorite machine in the office (mostly cause it's the
> >newest (and therefore fastest))!
>
> Your name looks familiar...
>
> Thanks Jeff for the help online and offline. I've got five machines
> with that card coming so glad it's working well.
>
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: Avid-FCP-Premiere setup-Advice?

 


--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
>
> AFAIK the DX only handles encode - decode of DNxHD. So there is no
"speed boost" over I/O express. I reserve the right to be proven wrong.
>
>
So what does this really mean in real-world use...encode-decode? What is
an example of DX vs Io? I can't seem to find any examples for this.

Phil

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Avid-FCP-Premiere setup-Advice?

 

"On the other hand, there may not be a lot of FCP upgrades in the traditional sense anymore. :-0"

What do you mean?

owen

On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Terence Curren wrote:

> On the other hand, there may not be a lot of FCP upgrades in the traditional sense anymore. :-0

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Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange combo

 

Perhaps i'm biased, but the 'change' settings are clear.
Most of them have nothing to do with FPS;
so having the time base in the menu seems a logical choice.
I could move it to the visual interface, but does that make sense?
(if a couple of you think so, i'll do it.)

Bouke

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Brockington" <mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange combo

> I'm sure it's obvious to you what "SETUP FPS" means -- but you wrote the
> program. It wasn't obvious to me, unfortunately. The setting doesn't
> behave like the rest of the program -- it doesn't highlight green when
> you change it, and the setting isn't reflected in the status display at
> the bottom of the screen. Perhaps that would be a good thing -- a
> column in the status area labeled something like "timecode FPS" that
> displays what you have chosen in the Setup menu. Otherwise it is very
> easy to overlook.
>
> I still think if "SETUP FPS" defaulted to the "original" setting, you
> would prevent a lot of potential problems.
>
> Cheers,
> --Michael
>
> On 11-03-19 9:52 AM, Bouke wrote:
>> Well, the interface shows SETUP FPS in fairly large typeface.
>> And there is a 'use current fps' option as well.
>> (but not all functions can use that)
>>
>> Bouke
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Brockington"<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>> To:<Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 5:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange
>> combo
>>
>>
>>> Good to know -- thanks, Bouke.
>>>
>>> This setting is not terribly intuitive or obvious, though. Might I
>>> suggest it would be good if the default were for QtChange to match
>>> timecode rate to video rate, rather than defaulting to 25 fps? Surely
>>> this would be by far the more common requirement, and you could still
>>> change it in those cases where you needed to.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --Michael
>>>
>>> On 11-03-19 3:57 AM, Bouke wrote:
>>>> There is a settting. It's called FPS in the Setup menu.
>>>> You need to set it to match your FPS.
>>>> QTchange is indeed capable of inserting any TC fps on any QT fps.
>>>> (thus making it able to sync 23.976 material with 29.97)
>>>>
>>>> Also, do get the latest verion. It has a few bug fixes, allows you to
>>>> flatten (mostly not needed, only if you strip tracks)
>>>> and, it has lightning fast BITC insertion. (close to instant)
>>>> (It does not render the BITC in, it makes a QT text track. But very
>>>> handy
>>>> before transcode or to hand out to clients)
>>>>
>>>> Bouke
>>>>
>>>> VideoToolShed
>>>> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>>>> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>>>> The Netherlands
>>>> +31 24 3553311
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>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bogdan Grigoresco"<bogdan_grigorescu@yahoo.com>
>>>> To:<Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 9:44 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange
>>>> combo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let's wait for Bouke to chime in...perhaps there is a setting/switch
>>>> somewhere in QTchange.
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Bogdan Grigoresco
>>>> www.finale.tv
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sat, 3/19/11, Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange
>>>> combo
>>>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 10:39 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the pointer, Bogdan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks like the timecode track runs at a different rate than the
>>>> video.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CatDVPro reports the following:
>>>>
>>>> "Timecode format doesn't match framerate (25!=2398)"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would guess the mismatched 25 fps timecode rate is an artifact of
>>>>
>>>> QTChange being a European program that mostly cares about PAL.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks like Avid is handling the timecode track discrepancy
>>>>
>>>> differently depending on whether it is an old-fashioned import, or AMA
>>>>
>>>> link. I'm working in an HD 23.98 1080p project, BTW.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now it's a total crapshoot which of the two timecode values will work
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>> an EDL!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> --Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11-03-19 12:56 AM, Bogdan Grigoresco wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FWIW Michael, looks like the 2 values you're getting are connected to
>>>>> each
>>>>> other by a 24<>25fps conversion, i.e. 12:29:40:13 at 25fps equals
>>>>> 13:00:54:18 at 24fps.
>>>>> Not sure why this is, nor what type of project you're in, but it's
>>>>> probably got something to do with the way QT change tags the files and
>>>>> Avid interprets them. Think BWF, where the actual start timecode of
>>>>> the
>>>>> file is number of frames since midnight, but obviously dependant on
>>>>> the
>>>>> counting base.
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Bogdan Grigoresco
>>>>> www.finale.tv
>>>>> --- On Sat, 3/19/11, Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> From: Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>>>>> Subject: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange
>>>>> combo
>>>>> To: "Avid-L2"<Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 9:13 AM
>>>>> Got bit by an unpleasant bug today.
>>>>> I used QTChange to add TC to 23.98 5D/7D Quicktime files. I
>>>>> assigned
>>>>> timecode to match the .THM file, with a reelname from the enclosing
>>>>> foldername.
>>>>> After running QTChange the timecode display in Quicktime player shows
>>>>> the first frame of a sample clip has non-drop timecode 12:29:40:14.
>>>>> If imported the old-fashioned way into Avid, the start timecode shows
>>>>> as
>>>>> 12:29:40:13. OK -- I'm not sure why there's a 1 frame discrepancy,
>>>>> but
>>>>> that's pretty close.
>>>>> Unfortunately, if I bring the quicktimes into Avid via AMA, then the
>>>>> start TC reads 13:00:54:18. Now I am sad...
>>>>> I need to pull an EDL from a bunch of 5D clips that I brought in via
>>>>> AMA. Anyone else run into this problem?
>>>>> If anyone (Bouke, Avid AMA folks?) wants to look at the problem, I
>>>>> have
>>>>> a couple seconds of an offending quicktime I can email -- only about
>>>>> 5MB.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> --Michael
>>>>> \----------------------------
>>>>> System specs:
>>>>> MC 5.0.3.5 software only, Apple MacPro 4,1 Quad-core Intel Xeon 2.26
>>>>> GHz, 12 GB RAM, OS 10.6.5, Quicktime 7.6.6 / 10.0 (118)
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[Avid-L2] Re: Avid-FCP-Premiere setup-Advice?

 


AFAIK the DX only handles encode - decode of DNxHD. So there is no "speed boost" over I/O express. I reserve the right to be proven wrong.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "phil2903c" <daynight452@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 3: Just get the I/O Express and you don't need anything else. Both MC
> and FCP work with it.
> >
> >This has been a consideration. We are able to utilize the adrenaline
> upgrade promotion so DX Nitris has been 1st choice. Our systems work in
> heavy FX and compositing at mostly DNxHD-145 so I am hoping DX box will
> aid in performance without having to render as much, until the end. How
> well does the IoExpress perform in that respect? I assume there is more
> rendering involved, less "Green" full-rez playback.
>
> What are your thoughts on what you don't get in performance with the
> IoExpress. I understand the connectivity differences.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Avid-FCP-Premiere setup-Advice?

 


--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
>
> 3: Just get the I/O Express and you don't need anything else. Both MC
and FCP work with it.
>
>This has been a consideration. We are able to utilize the adrenaline
upgrade promotion so DX Nitris has been 1st choice. Our systems work in
heavy FX and compositing at mostly DNxHD-145 so I am hoping DX box will
aid in performance without having to render as much, until the end. How
well does the IoExpress perform in that respect? I assume there is more
rendering involved, less "Green" full-rez playback.

What are your thoughts on what you don't get in performance with the
IoExpress. I understand the connectivity differences.

Thanks,
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Sony Z7>HDV>CF Card media

I have the entire folder contents copied off to a hard drive. FCP can see it with Log and Transfer. MC does not recognise it. You say you imported clips - can you import the individual files? Not AMA in this format with MC 3.5, I imagine.

On 19 Mar 2011, at 16:54, Jayasri Hart wrote:

> What are you using to read the card? I use the i.LINK cradle that came with the camera and the files import into MC 3.5.x with no problems. I don't have MC 5.x
>
> Jayasri
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[Avid-L2] Re: Avid-FCP-Premiere setup-Advice?

 

1: I like separate boot drives as FCP allows you to upgrade your system more frequently without issues. If you have to wait on Avid to support new upgrades, you will wait a lot longer.

On the other hand, there may not be a lot of FCP upgrades in the traditional sense anymore. :-0

2: Can't vouch for I/O, but I have systems running Kona 3 and Nitris DX.

3: Just get the I/O Express and you don't need anything else. Both MC and FCP work with it.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "phil2903c" <daynight452@...> wrote:
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> We are upgrading 4 MC workstations from Adrenaline to 5.5 w/ DX Nitris. 2.66 Westmere 12-core. Also looking to add FCP and Premiere. I would appreciate feedback on the following:
>
> 1-Planning separate boot drives...Avid on one, FCP and Premiere on the other drive.
>
> 2-Looking at AJA-IoExpress for FCP and Premire...any conflict with DX Nitris hardware-cards-drivers?
>
> 3-Is there a better option for FCP/Premiere I/O? Mainly looking at tapeless workflow here and need for Client Monitor display...but tape may be involved on occasion. Avid more often involved with tape in addition to tapeless.
>
> 3-ATI Radeon 5770...OK with all 3 NLE?
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>

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