Perhaps i'm biased, but the 'change' settings are clear.
Most of them have nothing to do with FPS;
so having the time base in the menu seems a logical choice.
I could move it to the visual interface, but does that make sense?
(if a couple of you think so, i'll do it.)
Bouke
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Brockington" <mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange combo
> I'm sure it's obvious to you what "SETUP FPS" means -- but you wrote the
> program. It wasn't obvious to me, unfortunately. The setting doesn't
> behave like the rest of the program -- it doesn't highlight green when
> you change it, and the setting isn't reflected in the status display at
> the bottom of the screen. Perhaps that would be a good thing -- a
> column in the status area labeled something like "timecode FPS" that
> displays what you have chosen in the Setup menu. Otherwise it is very
> easy to overlook.
>
> I still think if "SETUP FPS" defaulted to the "original" setting, you
> would prevent a lot of potential problems.
>
> Cheers,
> --Michael
>
> On 11-03-19 9:52 AM, Bouke wrote:
>> Well, the interface shows SETUP FPS in fairly large typeface.
>> And there is a 'use current fps' option as well.
>> (but not all functions can use that)
>>
>> Bouke
>>
>> VideoToolShed
>> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>> The Netherlands
>> +31 24 3553311
>> www.videotoolshed.com
>> For large files:
>> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Brockington"<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>> To:<Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 5:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange
>> combo
>>
>>
>>> Good to know -- thanks, Bouke.
>>>
>>> This setting is not terribly intuitive or obvious, though. Might I
>>> suggest it would be good if the default were for QtChange to match
>>> timecode rate to video rate, rather than defaulting to 25 fps? Surely
>>> this would be by far the more common requirement, and you could still
>>> change it in those cases where you needed to.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --Michael
>>>
>>> On 11-03-19 3:57 AM, Bouke wrote:
>>>> There is a settting. It's called FPS in the Setup menu.
>>>> You need to set it to match your FPS.
>>>> QTchange is indeed capable of inserting any TC fps on any QT fps.
>>>> (thus making it able to sync 23.976 material with 29.97)
>>>>
>>>> Also, do get the latest verion. It has a few bug fixes, allows you to
>>>> flatten (mostly not needed, only if you strip tracks)
>>>> and, it has lightning fast BITC insertion. (close to instant)
>>>> (It does not render the BITC in, it makes a QT text track. But very
>>>> handy
>>>> before transcode or to hand out to clients)
>>>>
>>>> Bouke
>>>>
>>>> VideoToolShed
>>>> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>>>> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>>>> The Netherlands
>>>> +31 24 3553311
>>>> www.videotoolshed.com
>>>> For large files:
>>>> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bogdan Grigoresco"<bogdan_grigorescu@yahoo.com>
>>>> To:<Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 9:44 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange
>>>> combo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let's wait for Bouke to chime in...perhaps there is a setting/switch
>>>> somewhere in QTchange.
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Bogdan Grigoresco
>>>> www.finale.tv
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sat, 3/19/11, Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange
>>>> combo
>>>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 10:39 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the pointer, Bogdan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks like the timecode track runs at a different rate than the
>>>> video.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CatDVPro reports the following:
>>>>
>>>> "Timecode format doesn't match framerate (25!=2398)"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would guess the mismatched 25 fps timecode rate is an artifact of
>>>>
>>>> QTChange being a European program that mostly cares about PAL.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks like Avid is handling the timecode track discrepancy
>>>>
>>>> differently depending on whether it is an old-fashioned import, or AMA
>>>>
>>>> link. I'm working in an HD 23.98 1080p project, BTW.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now it's a total crapshoot which of the two timecode values will work
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>> an EDL!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> --Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11-03-19 12:56 AM, Bogdan Grigoresco wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FWIW Michael, looks like the 2 values you're getting are connected to
>>>>> each
>>>>> other by a 24<>25fps conversion, i.e. 12:29:40:13 at 25fps equals
>>>>> 13:00:54:18 at 24fps.
>>>>> Not sure why this is, nor what type of project you're in, but it's
>>>>> probably got something to do with the way QT change tags the files and
>>>>> Avid interprets them. Think BWF, where the actual start timecode of
>>>>> the
>>>>> file is number of frames since midnight, but obviously dependant on
>>>>> the
>>>>> counting base.
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Bogdan Grigoresco
>>>>> www.finale.tv
>>>>> --- On Sat, 3/19/11, Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> From: Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>>>>> Subject: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange
>>>>> combo
>>>>> To: "Avid-L2"<Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 9:13 AM
>>>>> Got bit by an unpleasant bug today.
>>>>> I used QTChange to add TC to 23.98 5D/7D Quicktime files. I
>>>>> assigned
>>>>> timecode to match the .THM file, with a reelname from the enclosing
>>>>> foldername.
>>>>> After running QTChange the timecode display in Quicktime player shows
>>>>> the first frame of a sample clip has non-drop timecode 12:29:40:14.
>>>>> If imported the old-fashioned way into Avid, the start timecode shows
>>>>> as
>>>>> 12:29:40:13. OK -- I'm not sure why there's a 1 frame discrepancy,
>>>>> but
>>>>> that's pretty close.
>>>>> Unfortunately, if I bring the quicktimes into Avid via AMA, then the
>>>>> start TC reads 13:00:54:18. Now I am sad...
>>>>> I need to pull an EDL from a bunch of 5D clips that I brought in via
>>>>> AMA. Anyone else run into this problem?
>>>>> If anyone (Bouke, Avid AMA folks?) wants to look at the problem, I
>>>>> have
>>>>> a couple seconds of an offending quicktime I can email -- only about
>>>>> 5MB.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> --Michael
>>>>> \----------------------------
>>>>> System specs:
>>>>> MC 5.0.3.5 software only, Apple MacPro 4,1 Quad-core Intel Xeon 2.26
>>>>> GHz, 12 GB RAM, OS 10.6.5, Quicktime 7.6.6 / 10.0 (118)
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