Saturday, August 27, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: Corrupt Media -- What's Up Avid?

 

I had a piece of media once that took my whole sequence offline over time. I remember the system got funky and funkier then poof. I was new to avid so you can imagine my tush puckering really hard. Funny thing was it was one .omf file that had been created hours before the poof. I stored it somewhere for a rainy day when someone really pissed me off and I'd add it to their avid media file folder. Now I can't remember where I put it and even better no one has ticked me off that bad that I felt the need to use it. Well there was this one producer...... ah never mind. ;-)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Tim Selander <selander@...> wrote:
>
> Only some. Other corrupt files pass the database rebuild with no
> problems. We seem to get corrupted render files most often, and
> every so often have to do the "Flinstone Sort" of moving media
> files out of their folders, then putting half back in. If the
> sequence plays, move half the remaining in, etc., etc., until we
> get down to the one or two offending bits. It /would/ be nice if
> there were software to turn loose on the media folders that would
> find all problems.
>
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
>
> On 8/28/11 6:10 AM, jeffsengpiehl wrote:
> > You can do this as well, trash your media databases- the rebuild should flag corrupt media
> >
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Corrupt Media -- What's Up Avid?

 

Only some. Other corrupt files pass the database rebuild with no
problems. We seem to get corrupted render files most often, and
every so often have to do the "Flinstone Sort" of moving media
files out of their folders, then putting half back in. If the
sequence plays, move half the remaining in, etc., etc., until we
get down to the one or two offending bits. It /would/ be nice if
there were software to turn loose on the media folders that would
find all problems.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 8/28/11 6:10 AM, jeffsengpiehl wrote:
> You can do this as well, trash your media databases- the rebuild should flag corrupt media
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: AAF 2GB Limit, and Audio AAFs broken

 

Curious where are you sending the aaf's with HD video? Is it for Protools picture reference? I've been mostly SD of late and they export .dv streams for our protools set up. Were running protools 7.4.2 ish. They had problems with version 8 a year or so ago and just back revved and stayed there because it works for them.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dave Hogan <mactvman@...> wrote:
>
> I have been running into similar issues, at a facility that uses AAF export with full res HD video as an archival solution, on promos.
>
> I can routinely do AAF exports with full res HD video on version 5.0.3 of Media Composer, on a Mac.  When that facility upgraded to version 5.0.3.9 we ran into issues on larger AAFs.  I have made AAFs as large as 12 Gigs in the past, but now, AAFs larger than about 2 gigs just don't work when I go to re-import them.  Also, there seems to be a upper celing of 4.29 gigs that they just won't go bigger than, and export fails.
>
> I have tested this on Mac Media Composer version 5.0.3.8 as well with no luck.  I can, however, back rev to 5.0.3 and AAFs work fine again.
>
> More recently, the same facility upgraded to Mac Media Composer v 5.5.2.1 and large AAFs are still broken.  I just downloaded and installed Mac MC version 5.5.3, and same problem.  I have rebuilt settings, made new sequences, created new projects, nothing works, except downgrading to v 5.0.3.
>
> An additional AAF issue we have run into since upgrading to Media Composer 5.5x is that AAF audio only exports with consolidate and embed is broken too.  It builds an AAF, doesn't consolidate, but includes ALL audio media.  Promo for a 30 second spot of a movie ends up being well over a Gig.
>
> Our work around on audio AAFs is that we have to first consolidate the audio to another volume, and then make an AAF of the consolidated sequence.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this?
>
> Dave Hogan
> Burbank, CA
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: johnrobmoore <bigfish@...>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:21 PM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: AAF 2GB Limit
>
>
>  
> I routinely import a 4 to 5 gig aaf from protools with my audio stems on an SNDX mac 4.0.5.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Ross Flint <rossf@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ian,
> >
> > I have definitely imported AAFs larger then 2GB that were made using the
> > "AAF Edit Protocol". I was working in MC 5.5.2 for both import and
> > export last time I tried this, but I'm fairly sure I've done it in v4
> > too. Probably always Windows though.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > On 19/08/2011 00:55, Ian Johnson wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm been experimenting with exporting AAF files with embedded video as a
> > > more elegant way to pass material around as a single file, rather than a
> > > file and a media folder. I understand that checking the "AAF Edit
> > > Protocol" box will allow you to create an AAF file bigger than 2 GB.
> > > However I have never been able to open one back up in MC. I always get an
> > > error - "Exception: AAF Domain: Failed to open file for reading.,
> > > hr:-2147483644". It won't open on the Mac or PC versions of 5.03. Embedded
> > > AAFs under 2GB work fine.
> > >
> > > Did Avid solve the problem of creating an AAF bigger than 2GB, without
> > > solving the problem of opening one?
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Getting rid of Mic lag in Audio Punch In?

 

That did the trick! One of those, "Hmmm, why didn't I think of
that" moments.

Also, seems to be no direct out on software only setups; nor did
the Passthrough tool seem to be available in the Audio Project
pane for MC soft...

Thanks!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 8/27/11 5:43 AM, gerald van Leipsig wrote:
> You could also try panning everything to one side and the
> recording track to the other, and use only one side of the
> headphones. Not a very "pro" solution, yet maybe usefull.
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Corrupt Media -- What's Up Avid?

 

Actually interplay does this. It's media indexers will locate corrupt media, and place it aside. As far as it being hard? No, not hard- what it is is processor intensive. Interplay's media indexers are at least a pool of two high-end servers dedicated to only performing this task.

You can do this as well, trash your media databases- the rebuild should flag corrupt media

JDS

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "blafarm" <blafarm@...> wrote:
>
> This is a bit of a rhetorical question ...
>
> But after more than 15 years of dealing with frustrating problems caused by corrupt media -- why can't Avid simply create a application that scans all of the media files to indicate which files are actually corrupt?
>
> Is it really that hard -- or is this just plain laziness and lack of attention to detail?
>
> At this point in the game -- do we really still have to approach this problem like cavemen and cavewomen -- copying subsets of hundreds or thousands of files at a time to new folder -- until we finally find the block of files that the corrupt media file "lives in". And then having to drill down even further to find the file.
>
> It is absurd that we are still forced to use this Flinstonian technique to address this problem.
>

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[Avid-L2] Corrupt Media -- What's Up Avid?

 

This is a bit of a rhetorical question ...

But after more than 15 years of dealing with frustrating problems caused by corrupt media -- why can't Avid simply create a application that scans all of the media files to indicate which files are actually corrupt?

Is it really that hard -- or is this just plain laziness and lack of attention to detail?

At this point in the game -- do we really still have to approach this problem like cavemen and cavewomen -- copying subsets of hundreds or thousands of files at a time to new folder -- until we finally find the block of files that the corrupt media file "lives in". And then having to drill down even further to find the file.

It is absurd that we are still forced to use this Flinstonian technique to address this problem.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Low Cost Eval Monitors

 


Keep us posted, Dave!

thx.

On 26 aug 2011, at 05:47, Dave Spraker wrote:

> Just saw some really nice production-quality plasmas to be announced @ IBC.
> Features are good and the price is right. Stay tuned.

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Friday, August 26, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: AAF 2GB Limit, and Audio AAFs broken

 

I have been running into similar issues, at a facility that uses AAF export with full res HD video as an archival solution, on promos.

I can routinely do AAF exports with full res HD video on version 5.0.3 of Media Composer, on a Mac.  When that facility upgraded to version 5.0.3.9 we ran into issues on larger AAFs.  I have made AAFs as large as 12 Gigs in the past, but now, AAFs larger than about 2 gigs just don't work when I go to re-import them.  Also, there seems to be a upper celing of 4.29 gigs that they just won't go bigger than, and export fails.

I have tested this on Mac Media Composer version 5.0.3.8 as well with no luck.  I can, however, back rev to 5.0.3 and AAFs work fine again.

More recently, the same facility upgraded to Mac Media Composer v 5.5.2.1 and large AAFs are still broken.  I just downloaded and installed Mac MC version 5.5.3, and same problem.  I have rebuilt settings, made new sequences, created new projects, nothing works, except downgrading to v 5.0.3.

An additional AAF issue we have run into since upgrading to Media Composer 5.5x is that AAF audio only exports with consolidate and embed is broken too.  It builds an AAF, doesn't consolidate, but includes ALL audio media.  Promo for a 30 second spot of a movie ends up being well over a Gig.

Our work around on audio AAFs is that we have to first consolidate the audio to another volume, and then make an AAF of the consolidated sequence.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Dave Hogan
Burbank, CA

________________________________
From: johnrobmoore <bigfish@pacbell.net>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:21 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: AAF 2GB Limit

 
I routinely import a 4 to 5 gig aaf from protools with my audio stems on an SNDX mac 4.0.5.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Ross Flint <rossf@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> I have definitely imported AAFs larger then 2GB that were made using the
> "AAF Edit Protocol". I was working in MC 5.5.2 for both import and
> export last time I tried this, but I'm fairly sure I've done it in v4
> too. Probably always Windows though.
>
> Ross
>
> On 19/08/2011 00:55, Ian Johnson wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm been experimenting with exporting AAF files with embedded video as a
> > more elegant way to pass material around as a single file, rather than a
> > file and a media folder. I understand that checking the "AAF Edit
> > Protocol" box will allow you to create an AAF file bigger than 2 GB.
> > However I have never been able to open one back up in MC. I always get an
> > error - "Exception: AAF Domain: Failed to open file for reading.,
> > hr:-2147483644". It won't open on the Mac or PC versions of 5.03. Embedded
> > AAFs under 2GB work fine.
> >
> > Did Avid solve the problem of creating an AAF bigger than 2GB, without
> > solving the problem of opening one?
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: Getting rid of Mic lag in Audio Punch In?

 

You need to enable the pass-through audio mixer.

Here's my VO notes...

----------------

Have VO patched to source track that matches timeline track (eg A5) & selected in 'passthrough' to hear EE during punchin. It will not be panned though.

Passthrough tool - affects monitoring NOT RECORDING levels/pans during punch-in
(Set passthrough to Direct Out not Stereo )

The punch in source track will always go EE during edit - regardless of which timeline track it is destined to make a clip on.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Tim Selander <selander@...> wrote:
>
> I was asked to do a lip sync recording, English over Japanese, as
> a favor to a friend. Personal job, so I did it on my laptop. Ran
> the mike through a little mixer to line in on the computer,
> monitoring on headphones.
>
> Macbook Pro, MC software version 2.7, no DNA.
>
> While doing an audio punch in, there's a huge delay -- maybe a
> full second -- from when I say something, to when I can hear it
> on the headphones. Virtually impossible to keep talking! The
> recording was fine, no lag.
>
> No problem, I thought, I don't need to hear my voice, just the
> original audio track. Muted the punch in track by turning off the
> monitor/speaker icon. No go! Even when I "mute" the track, I can
> still hear my (lagging) voice.
>
> Is there no way to choose only certain tracks to monitor, or to
> turn off the monitoring of the input when doing a punch in?
>
> Any help appreciated!
>
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Getting rid of Mic lag in Audio Punch In?

I used to do this using Direct out, (In the audiomix tool? Not behind an Avid now)
Route everything to ch 1-2 except the tracks you are recording to.
Not sure Direct out is available without any hardware attached though.
You could also try panning everything to one side and the recording track to the other, and use only one side of the headphones.
Not a very "pro" solution, yet maybe usefull.

HTH, Gerald van Leipsig


On 26 aug 2011, at 16:40, Tim Selander wrote:

> I was asked to do a lip sync recording, English over Japanese, as
> a favor to a friend. Personal job, so I did it on my laptop. Ran
> the mike through a little mixer to line in on the computer,
> monitoring on headphones.
>
> Macbook Pro, MC software version 2.7, no DNA.
>
> While doing an audio punch in, there's a huge delay -- maybe a
> full second -- from when I say something, to when I can hear it
> on the headphones. Virtually impossible to keep talking! The
> recording was fine, no lag.
>
> No problem, I thought, I don't need to hear my voice, just the
> original audio track. Muted the punch in track by turning off the
> monitor/speaker icon. No go! Even when I "mute" the track, I can
> still hear my (lagging) voice.
>
> Is there no way to choose only certain tracks to monitor, or to
> turn off the monitoring of the input when doing a punch in?
>
> Any help appreciated!
>
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
>

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[Avid-L2] OT: I need to double my render rate!!

 

I can actually feel my hair turning grey watching the render bar for the wonderful Light Zoom effects.  Only rivaled by the BCC color seperation channel effect thingy in taking up days of my life with renders.  And of course leaving the sequence to render unattended always crashes and now more shot changes.  My brain hurts.

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: wmv to flash

 

Good tip. Will try Sorenson as well.
On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Michael Hancock wrote:

> Will the .wmvs import and play in After Effects? If they do you can render
> flash from there, or load separate comps for each .wmv and drag the After
> Effects project to Media Encoder - it might work then.
>
> Have you tried Sorenson Squeeze?
>
> Michael
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> I normally use Adobe Media Encoder to create flash files but a client has a
>> bunch of .wmv (not supported by Encoder) they want turned into flash files.
>> What is another alternative?
>> thanks
>>
>> Lou
>> Lou Wirth Productions
>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: wmv to flash

Will the .wmvs import and play in After Effects? If they do you can render
flash from there, or load separate comps for each .wmv and drag the After
Effects project to Media Encoder - it might work then.

Have you tried Sorenson Squeeze?

Michael

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> **
>
>
> I normally use Adobe Media Encoder to create flash files but a client has a
> bunch of .wmv (not supported by Encoder) they want turned into flash files.
> What is another alternative?
> thanks
>
> Lou
> Lou Wirth Productions
> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> Corte Madera, CA 94925
> www.louwirth.com
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[Avid-L2] OT: wmv to flash

 

I normally use Adobe Media Encoder to create flash files but a client has a bunch of .wmv (not supported by Encoder) they want turned into flash files. What is another alternative?
thanks

Lou
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