Thursday, February 25, 2016

Re: [Avid-L2] TitanX cards along with GTX-680 Mac Expansion Chassis or PC upgrade?

 

I think I am getting something closer to 600MB/sec on my 3 stripe internal raid.  Perhaps because I'm using 4TB drives that extra density speeds up the software raid.  Of course it also depends on where it is on my raid stripe.  First partition is significantly faster than fourth partition.  I agree on the SSD PCI-x taking up a slot but it does also have two Esata connectors.  After contacting MacVidcards I'm told the TitanX cards will only work with 10.10 OS.  I'm waiting to hear back from Mike P. on the exact details of his expansion chassis system with two Titans.  According to MacVidcards he must be running older Titan or Titan black and not the new Titan X cards that I have.  I may just flash one for mac and bite the bullet to run 10.10 and see how well that works before jumping on the expansion chassis.  That leaves me with an extra 680 and Titan X so hopefully I'll be able to find an expansion chassis suitable or second computer PC style. 

I'm still trying to keep the GTX-680 in the main tower in case I need to boot to pre 10.10 startup drives.



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I have just basic SSD drives in the 2nd optical slot on all our machines, and get around 175 read/write, which is fine for system use imho. Not worth giving up a PCIe slot for anything faster. 4-drive 'spinning media' raid reliably does about 480 Since we're on terrablock, which is 4 gig fibre, it peaks out around 250, so that's a limit, no matter we've got going internally.

Note that you could LOOSE 4gig Atto cards (and maybe others?) if you go above OSx 10.9.5 as they didn't write a drive as the 4gig cards are eol. There is a way around that in 10.10 and 10.11. BMD states that 10.10.3 is required for Resolve 12.3.1.

We have one machine running dual GTX680 - though one of them is in a qubix box (originally needed the space for red rocket, which I no longer use, but also have both BMD and Nitris I/Os.) There's another bay running a single GTX680. The difference in Resolve render performance is significant, especially when using noise reduction. No noticeable difference in Media Composer. Rather than adding a second card, we use the 'spare' slot for a combo USB3/Esata card, as that bay often does double-duty as an assistant station.

I believe the Titans draw more power- probably double check on that with someone who knows for sure, especially if you're going to use TWO of them!

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Secret Headquarters, Inc
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Culver City, CA
323 677 2092
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> On Feb 24, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Dave Hogan mactvman@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am curious which PCIe SSD card you are using. (And curious what others are using in their MacPro Towers).
>
> The Mac Pro 2012 has only PCIe slots (2 x 16 lane and 2 x 4 lane), and they are v 2.0, so each lane can do 500MB/sec. Even in the 4 lane slots, you should be capable of 2GB/sec theoretical, depending on how well the cards drivers are written. However, if you are using this Mac Pro with AVID, don't you fill the last two slots with I/O to your appliance and Fiber channel card to Unity?
>
> Also, you aren't going to get the best out of the latest cards that are PCIe 3.0, due to the fact that MacPro is only PCIe 2.0.
>
> It's not as fast as as a PCIe SSD card, but what I have done with my Mac Pro tower (2010) is place two SSDs of the same size in the optical bays and set them up RAID0, as my startup drive. Even though those SATA connections are only 3 gigabit, I get an overall read/write speed of about 500 MB/sec, due to the Raid0. Then I still have the 4 drive bays for a fast local RAID with traditional spinning drives, and my PCIe slots available for other cards. Been thinking of putting in a 2nd graphics card in the other 16x PCIe slot for better render performance in Resolve. Any suggestions?
>
> Dave Hogan
> Burbank, CA
>
>

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[Avid-L2] GTX-680 vs. GTX-780 for Avid and Resolve on MacPro OS 10.8.5?

 

Looking to upgrade my work computer for better Resolve work.  It's a mid 2010 MacPro upgraded to 12 core 3.33GHz and 24 GB or ram.  I have to run OS 10.8.5.  The guide for the mid 2012 MacPro from Black Magic was suggested by their tech support.  It only lists the GTX-680 which is what we have on one computer.  According to MacVidCards the GTX-780 with 6GB of Vram will run in OS 10.8.5.  It seems to me that would perform better with Resolve.  I'm waiting to hear back from Black Magic on this but I'm curious if anyone knows from personal experience if the GTX-780 will out perform the GTX-680 running Resolve and Adobe CC?
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Re: [Avid-L2] TitanX cards along with GTX-680 Mac Expansion Chassis or PC upgrade?

 

I have just basic SSD drives in the 2nd optical slot on all our machines, and get around 175 read/write, which is fine for system use imho. Not worth giving up a PCIe slot for anything faster. 4-drive 'spinning media' raid reliably does about 480 Since we're on terrablock, which is 4 gig fibre, it peaks out around 250, so that's a limit, no matter we've got going internally.

Note that you could LOOSE 4gig Atto cards (and maybe others?) if you go above OSx 10.9.5 as they didn't write a drive as the 4gig cards are eol. There is a way around that in 10.10 and 10.11. BMD states that 10.10.3 is required for Resolve 12.3.1.

We have one machine running dual GTX680 - though one of them is in a qubix box (originally needed the space for red rocket, which I no longer use, but also have both BMD and Nitris I/Os.) There's another bay running a single GTX680. The difference in Resolve render performance is significant, especially when using noise reduction. No noticeable difference in Media Composer. Rather than adding a second card, we use the 'spare' slot for a combo USB3/Esata card, as that bay often does double-duty as an assistant station.

I believe the Titans draw more power- probably double check on that with someone who knows for sure, especially if you're going to use TWO of them!

gh
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Secret Headquarters, Inc
Production / Post Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092
www.SecretHQ.com
www.DigitalServiceStation.com

> On Feb 24, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Dave Hogan mactvman@yahoo.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am curious which PCIe SSD card you are using. (And curious what others are using in their MacPro Towers).
>
> The Mac Pro 2012 has only PCIe slots (2 x 16 lane and 2 x 4 lane), and they are v 2.0, so each lane can do 500MB/sec. Even in the 4 lane slots, you should be capable of 2GB/sec theoretical, depending on how well the cards drivers are written. However, if you are using this Mac Pro with AVID, don't you fill the last two slots with I/O to your appliance and Fiber channel card to Unity?
>
> Also, you aren't going to get the best out of the latest cards that are PCIe 3.0, due to the fact that MacPro is only PCIe 2.0.
>
> It's not as fast as as a PCIe SSD card, but what I have done with my Mac Pro tower (2010) is place two SSDs of the same size in the optical bays and set them up RAID0, as my startup drive. Even though those SATA connections are only 3 gigabit, I get an overall read/write speed of about 500 MB/sec, due to the Raid0. Then I still have the 4 drive bays for a fast local RAID with traditional spinning drives, and my PCIe slots available for other cards. Been thinking of putting in a 2nd graphics card in the other 16x PCIe slot for better render performance in Resolve. Any suggestions?
>
> Dave Hogan
> Burbank, CA
>
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: GXF (SMPTE RDD 14-2007) file: Revisited

 

I believe the easiest thing to do would be to export an OP1a MXF from Media Composer and open it in EDIUS and export a GXF from it.

Bob

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Re: [Avid-L2] job posting - post-production engineer - santa monica

 

Hi,I am very interested in playing a support role as a junior network administrator, assistant editor and help desk.  I have a lot of training and some experience and over ten years in post production.  I am presently pursuing certificates in Apple OS X El Capitan, Cisco's CCNA and Voice. I am continuing education in AVID and Adobe Premiere.  I am currently certified in AVID's ACSR.  Attached is my resume.Regards,Steve Berru626 229-9446 home626 833-9446 cell

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: GXF (SMPTE RDD 14-2007) file: Revisited

 

What I'm needing to do is write a GXF to send to Fox.  I don't know what server they are using.

Curtis Nichols
PCS Production Co.
Irving, TX.


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Do you want to create a GXF file or deliver a file that will work on a K2 Server? The Drastic Tech AMA plug-in can play GFX.

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Wednesday, February 24, 2016

[Avid-L2] job posting - post-production engineer - santa monica

 

Hi…We are a commercial post-production company located in Santa Monica.  You would be assisting a creative bunch of about 35 individuals managing day to day systems for one location, but a member of a team, that manages multiple locations.

  

Environment consists of:  mac, pc, linux, off-line editorial, and visual efx.

                                                                                   

RESPONSIBILITIES:

 • Assist editorial with media management, file-based workflows, delivery and/or system issues.

 • Image, maintain, and troubleshoot editorial and visual effects workstations.

 • Maintain LTO backup systems.

 • Help Desk Support for users.

 • Maintain facilities infrastructure.

 • Documentation of processes, software, and infrastructure.

 

  

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[Avid-L2] Re: TitanX cards along with GTX-680 Mac Expansion Chassis or PC upgrade?

 

The Titan X is the card of choice so I've been told as long as you are on 10.9.5.  I got my SSD card from OWC 960GB Mercury Electra 3G Solid State Drive,



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <mactvman@...> wrote :

I am curious which PCIe SSD card you are using. (And curious what others are using in their MacPro Towers).

The Mac Pro 2012 has only PCIe slots (2 x 16 lane and 2 x 4 lane), and they are v 2.0, so each lane can do 500MB/sec.  Even in the 4 lane slots, you should be capable of 2GB/sec theoretical, depending on how well the cards drivers are written.  However, if you are using this Mac Pro with AVID, don't you fill the last two slots with I/O to your appliance and Fiber channel card to Unity?

Also, you aren't going to get the best out of the latest cards that are PCIe 3.0, due to the fact that MacPro is only PCIe 2.0.

It's not as fast as as a PCIe SSD card, but what I have done with my Mac Pro tower (2010) is place two SSDs of the same size in the optical bays and set them up RAID0, as my startup drive.  Even though those SATA connections are only 3 gigabit, I get an overall read/write speed of about 500 MB/sec, due to the Raid0.  Then I still have the 4 drive bays for a fast local RAID with traditional spinning drives, and my PCIe slots available for other cards.  Been thinking of putting in a 2nd graphics card in the other 16x PCIe slot for better render performance in Resolve.  Any suggestions?

Dave Hogan
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Re: [Avid-L2] Any way to open a QT Ref with a missing file? Now audio mapping tool

 

Following up with Bouke offlist I think I found my error.  Here's what I found when I looked at the menu items for Output Setup:

Hey I just looked under the output menu items and I see what I missed.  I didn't see the insert new sound into source QT option.  Once I checked that it appears to have done exactly what I want.  This seems like a way to reorder the tracks too which I've been told couldn't be done.  THIS IS GREAT!!!!!



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Okay I gave this a test run and it will create .wav files from the tracks in a .mov.  The tracks can either be one file per track or a poly file.  Unfortunately the resulting .wav files are stand alone files and do no integrate back into the original .mov file.  I could cut them back in using QT 7 but the resulting audio tracks are still interleaved with a single track in the sub channel in the case of mono .wavs and 12 sub channels in the case of a poly made from a 12 channel .mov. 

What I need to accomplish is 12 discrete audio tracks in the final .mov.  When I export the 12 audio tracks as a QT Ref from Avid and uncheck the mixdown audio I end up with an audio only .mov that has the required 12 mono tracks that are not interleaved.  That's what I use to cut back in the audio so I can then make a self contained file with discrete audio.


---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

Man what a shameless plug for your product!!!  ;-)  How do you make a profit charging ZERO, yes $0.00 according to the web site.  I'm going to give it a try today. 

When it says:
"This thing can patch / remap audio tracks in QT files,
as well as extract sound from a variety of file formats to Wave / BWF files,
either Mono or Poly.:

Does that mean specifically if I export a .mov from avid with audio set to direct and end up with the interleaved 12 channels showing up as a single audio channel with 12 subchannels I can then patch that to become a .mov with 12 discrete mono stems derived from the 12 interleaved sub channels?

Also when it says patch does that mean I can reorder the tracks for a different configuration?


---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bouke@...> wrote :


If you have a missing file, QT player 'should'  bitch about it, and give you the opportunity to search.
You can then pick another file. But note, it MUST match the original exactly, or you get horrible sound.
 
But for what you do, have you had a look at my QT audiomap to make discrete tracks?
 
(Or, use Avid with Direct Out?)
 
 
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Subject: [Avid-L2] Any way to open a QT Ref with a missing file?

 

From time to time I will create a QT Ref file which references my mix stems.  Actually I do this all the time but sometimes when I receive a revised mix stem and I forget about the previously made QT ref file I go ahead and delete the audio stem media in Avid.  This in essence strands the previously made QT ref and it won't open because it can no longer access the deleted audio media file.  I understand why this happens and the error message.  My question is if for some reason, and I have one I won't go into, I need to access the video track of a file that had been referencing the now missing audio is there a way to tell QT Pro 7 or perhaps some other program to open the file and just ignore the missing audio media?

I often will convert a QT ref file to ProRes using QT 7.  I then need to reinsert the original QT ref audio stems to maintain discrete tracks so I can bake that into a self contained file with discrete non interleaved audio.  The problem is when half way through the process they change the mix but I want to save my ProRes video backed file and just attach the new audio.  This probably sounds way more complex than it really is.  Bottom line if I have a .mov that references a file for audio that no longer exists but the video track media does exist can I make QT open and not just error out trying to find the missing audio media.
 
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[Avid-L2] Re: TitanX cards along with GTX-680 Mac Expansion Chassis or PC upgrade?

 

I am curious which PCIe SSD card you are using. (And curious what others are using in their MacPro Towers).

The Mac Pro 2012 has only PCIe slots (2 x 16 lane and 2 x 4 lane), and they are v 2.0, so each lane can do 500MB/sec.  Even in the 4 lane slots, you should be capable of 2GB/sec theoretical, depending on how well the cards drivers are written.  However, if you are using this Mac Pro with AVID, don't you fill the last two slots with I/O to your appliance and Fiber channel card to Unity?

Also, you aren't going to get the best out of the latest cards that are PCIe 3.0, due to the fact that MacPro is only PCIe 2.0.

It's not as fast as as a PCIe SSD card, but what I have done with my Mac Pro tower (2010) is place two SSDs of the same size in the optical bays and set them up RAID0, as my startup drive.  Even though those SATA connections are only 3 gigabit, I get an overall read/write speed of about 500 MB/sec, due to the Raid0.  Then I still have the 4 drive bays for a fast local RAID with traditional spinning drives, and my PCIe slots available for other cards.  Been thinking of putting in a 2nd graphics card in the other 16x PCIe slot for better render performance in Resolve.  Any suggestions?

Dave Hogan
Burbank, CA

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[Avid-L2] MacPro mid 2010 Upgraded to 12 core 3.33GHz GPU Upgrade from ATI Radeon HD 5770?

 

They are looking into upgrading my work SNDX 6.5.4.7 system currently on a MacPro mid 2010 Tower that was upgraded to 12 core 3.33Ghz with 24 GB Ram.  I was asked about upgrading the Ram.  Right now it has 6x 4GB ram chips with one open module for Ram.  IIRC when using 16 GB Ram chips they will not mix with any other size so I don't think we could add two 16GB Ram chips to the open module but we could add 2 x 8GB ram chips. 

I told them that ram is nice but what would really help is to upgrade the GPU from the Radeon HD 5770.  We have a mac version GTX-680 on another similar computer and of course it performs much better with Resolve transcodes and Adobe work.  I realize Avid won't benefit much from the GPU but I do end up running Resolve and Premiere for transcodes etc... so it would definitely help with that.

Now I'm told the TitanX is the card to have these days for Resolve but I've also been told it requires Mac OS 10.9 which I can't run because of legacy sanmp and unity medianet 5 compatibility issues.  I'm currently running OS 10.8.5 and even that pushes our infrastructure but I can live with it's limitations with our san solutions and network.  Anybody know what the best nvidia card that is mac compatible running OS 10.8.5.  I'm going to email black magic tech support for a recommendation but there is usually fast and more practical info here at the L2.  I heard of a GTX-780 that replaced the GTX-680 as the card to use a while back but is there anything between that and a titanx that will work on OS 10.8.5?  TIA
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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[Avid-L2] Re: GXF (SMPTE RDD 14-2007) file: Revisited

 

Do you want to create a GXF file or deliver a file that will work on a K2 Server? The Drastic Tech AMA plug-in can play GFX.

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