Saturday, August 31, 2019

Re: [Avid-L2] Painful Learning Curve on IMF creation

 

TY John, and ouch!!!

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From: "John Moore bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 8/30/19 23:50 (GMT-08:00)
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Subject: [Avid-L2] Painful Learning Curve on IMF creation

 

Just so nobody has to go through this but me beware when creating IMFs, or any other export I assume, in Resolve make sure you don't mute any of the needed audio tracks before going to the delivery page.  Part of the process is taking my Avid AAF with the DPX video and wav audio stems into Resolve then link grouping the first 6 channels as 5.1 and the 7&8 channels to a 2.0 group.  This tells Resolve to make the IMF with two interleaved tracks that become pcm.mxf files in the IMF folder.

Well guess who was trying to learn more about the fairlight buss format and buss assign to facilitate being able to toggle between main 1 (5.1 track) and main 22 (2.0 track) monitoring to the control room feed?  And also guess who in the process used the mute button on the various mains to check if I was monitoring the correct buss?  If you answered Supreme Chuckle Head John Moore you would be right.  This lead to a 10 plus hour render, do to scaling 4096_2160 to UHD, that is now worthless.  Now if I wanted to be all hip and cool I could just do a supplemental imf with just the stereo track but since this is my first delivery I don't want it to come out of the gate that way.

Now if you also guess I'd be sleeping on the couch tonight because the expansion chassis on my mac pro is next to my bed and it sounds like a jet is taking off you win a bonus prize.

I knew it was a bad Omen when OKI Dog was closed at 10P last night on my way home from work.

So beware of the mute buttons that easly scroll out of sight in the display.  You have been warned.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 8:42 AM 0 comments

Friday, August 30, 2019

[Avid-L2] Painful Learning Curve on IMF creation

 

Just so nobody has to go through this but me beware when creating IMFs, or any other export I assume, in Resolve make sure you don't mute any of the needed audio tracks before going to the delivery page.  Part of the process is taking my Avid AAF with the DPX video and wav audio stems into Resolve then link grouping the first 6 channels as 5.1 and the 7&8 channels to a 2.0 group.  This tells Resolve to make the IMF with two interleaved tracks that become pcm.mxf files in the IMF folder.

Well guess who was trying to learn more about the fairlight buss format and buss assign to facilitate being able to toggle between main 1 (5.1 track) and main 22 (2.0 track) monitoring to the control room feed?  And also guess who in the process used the mute button on the various mains to check if I was monitoring the correct buss?  If you answered Supreme Chuckle Head John Moore you would be right.  This lead to a 10 plus hour render, do to scaling 4096_2160 to UHD, that is now worthless.  Now if I wanted to be all hip and cool I could just do a supplemental imf with just the stereo track but since this is my first delivery I don't want it to come out of the gate that way.

Now if you also guess I'd be sleeping on the couch tonight because the expansion chassis on my mac pro is next to my bed and it sounds like a jet is taking off you win a bonus prize.

I knew it was a bad Omen when OKI Dog was closed at 10P last night on my way home from work.

So beware of the mute buttons that easly scroll out of sight in the display.  You have been warned.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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[Avid-L2] Re: Avid Link very long open

 

I've had memory leak type issues on my home macpro mid 2012 with Avid link.  When I boot and it starts up I quit it before doing anything.  My issue is that after a while if I check in Activity monitor Avid Link is listed as using over 20GB of ram.  I have 64 GB ram.  I don't see the same behavior on my work system with a similar macpro.  I was told to go into Avid Link preferences and shot of launch and hide checkbox but that doesn't stop it from launching.  I hadn't looked for an uninstall.  I was also told I could use application manager instead.  It just got to a point where I just quit it.

Clearly given two similar systems have different behavior there is something buggy and system dependent.  At home only the products tab shows info all the others are blank pages except for profile tab but once I log in it goes blank.  This doesn't happen at work.  I've upgraded Avid link several times but this behavior persists.  I was told by support the blank tabs was a known bug they were working on but it's been4 or more months since I reported it.

I guess it's a good thing I spend my time frustrated with New Blue because Titler+ is even more annoying.  I did see there were some improvements to Titler+ in 2019 but I'm not on that yet I'm sticking on 2018.12.3 and mighjt try 2018.012.7 once I switch projects.  Does anybody know if the Titler+ improvements in 2019 are also incorporated in 2018.12.7?


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bncrcaxlr@...> wrote :

Hi,

I'm on a Apple MacBook Pro "Core i7" 3.1 15" Mid-2017 16GB

Since Avid Link came out, Media Composer takes up to four minutes to
open. Normally it takes 45 seconds.

I know it's Avid Link because the long opening behaviour stopped after I
uninstalled it.
Yesterday I upgraded to 2018-12-7 and let Avid link install. The same
long opening came back. After uninstalling it, I was back to the 45
seconds open.

What am I doing wrong. Why is Avid Link slowing down the opening? How
can I have Avid link install without the long open?

Thanks,

Marcel

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[Avid-L2] Re: Avid QT Ref Export confuses Uncompressed 32bit Floating point as Long Gop?

 

I completely agree.  I think we've had similar thread discussions in the past.  I was surprised when I saw my DCI letter boxed but that's what Netflix has traditionally done.  I asked that we just shoot UHD to start with as the viewers' experience will be to see less pixels at home when we shoot DCI.  I have just followed what Netflix has been doing to our shows the last 2-3 years.

I think the delivery change is more to let post do the scaling and using up post time rather than their time because it takes a long time to scale these things.  I would speculate if I had blazing fast storage pipeline it would go faster but I live in a world of USB 3 and some 4 gig fibre or the macpro internal raid so I think that contributes to how long the scaling takes in Resolve.  So far a Mixdown in Avid and an export after toggling the project to UHD seems the fastest approach.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <pat@...> wrote :

Interesting this came up.
Here in the UK I spoke with a Netflix preferred fulfillment provider and they agreed scaling 4K DCI to UHD made no sense and cropping horizontally to UHD was the route to follow.
Nobody I've spoken to considers that small image scaling and then letterbox as a sensible route for supply.
They aren't even interested in 4K DCI just UHD delivery.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Assistance needed on older Avid project

 

Thanks Roger. I'll pass that along.

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Tim McLaughlin
Premiere Pro Editor (who once upon a time worked in Avid and Final Cut too!)
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:40 AM Roger Shufflebottom rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I'm guessing that 5.5.2 did not offer AMA for such Panasonic clips. Maybe download a trial later version, get the plugin and transcode to Avid media?

With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660


On Thursday, 29 August 2019, 17:04:02 BST, Tim McLaughlin mcltim.156@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Friend of mine running MC 5.5.2 on a Windows 7 laptop is having difficulty importing material sourced from his Panasonic AVCCAM. Same setup worked fine last year for a similar project.

Error message that he is getting is along the lines of "this is not the first clip of a spanned clip, if this is a spanned clip it will be out of sync."

Of course - none of these files are spanned.

As a result of this message, he finds himself unable to batch import his material and is having to import one entire week of footage one clip at a time. I suggested that he AMA the files into his system, but he has been unable to do so - I'm guessing because of the age of his system.


--
Tim McLaughlin
Premiere Pro Editor (who once upon a time worked in Avid and Final Cut too!)
http://vimeo.com/mcltim

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 8:13 AM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] Avid Link very long open

 

Hi,

I'm on a Apple MacBook Pro "Core i7" 3.1 15" Mid-2017 16GB

Since Avid Link came out, Media Composer takes up to four minutes to
open. Normally it takes 45 seconds.

I know it's Avid Link because the long opening behaviour stopped after I
uninstalled it.
Yesterday I upgraded to 2018-12-7 and let Avid link install. The same
long opening came back. After uninstalling it, I was back to the 45
seconds open.

What am I doing wrong. Why is Avid Link slowing down the opening? How
can I have Avid link install without the long open?

Thanks,

Marcel

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this is the Avid-L2

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 5:43 AM 0 comments

Thursday, August 29, 2019

[Avid-L2] Re: Avid QT Ref Export confuses Uncompressed 32bit Floating point as Long Gop?

 

Interesting this came up.
Here in the UK I spoke with a Netflix preferred fulfillment provider and they agreed scaling 4K DCI to UHD made no sense and cropping horizontally to UHD was the route to follow.
Nobody I've spoken to considers that small image scaling and then letterbox as a sensible route for supply.
They aren't even interested in 4K DCI just UHD delivery.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Anyone need Free Digibeta and xdcam stock??

 

Hi Greg, we're definitely interested in the HDCam stock.  I'll contact you off-line.


David Zimmerly
Affinity Productions

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Re: [Avid-L2] Assistance needed on older Avid project

 

First some housekeeping…The most current version of v5.5x is 5.5.5, so an update might help.  (That version is still available on the AVID download site.)

Also, here is an article from AVID that describes the need to explicitly install an AVX plugin for that file format, and links for mac and pc to get it:


Some standard things about old AMA linking…

Don't use "auto" setting when linking, explicitly pick the AMA AVCHD plugin.  The auto setting was very dicey in older versions of Media Composer and often blocked functionality.

There are several bug reports about not being able to do some AVC codecs in real time on v5.5x so I suggest if you get the card to link, transcode!

Finally, there may be windows drivers required if you are using a card reader.

Hope this helps…

Dave Hogan
Burbank, CA


On Aug 29, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Roger Shufflebottom rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I'm guessing that 5.5.2 did not offer AMA for such Panasonic clips. Maybe download a trial later version, get the plugin and transcode to Avid media?

With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660


On Thursday, 29 August 2019, 17:04:02 BST, Tim McLaughlin mcltim.156@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Friend of mine running MC 5.5.2 on a Windows 7 laptop is having difficulty importing material sourced from his Panasonic AVCCAM. Same setup worked fine last year for a similar project.

Error message that he is getting is along the lines of "this is not the first clip of a spanned clip, if this is a spanned clip it will be out of sync."

Of course - none of these files are spanned.

As a result of this message, he finds himself unable to batch import his material and is having to import one entire week of footage one clip at a time. I suggested that he AMA the files into his system, but he has been unable to do so - I'm guessing because of the age of his system.


--
Tim McLaughlin
Premiere Pro Editor (who once upon a time worked in Avid and Final Cut too!)
http://vimeo.com/mcltim


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V 5.5.5 > Re: [Avid-L2] Assistance needed on older Avid project

 

Any chance he can move to the last iteration of that Version: 5.5.5 ?



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Roger Shufflebottom rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 8/29/19 09:40 (GMT-08:00)
To: "Tim McLaughlin mcltim.156@gmail.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Assistance needed on older Avid project

 

I'm guessing that 5.5.2 did not offer AMA for such Panasonic clips. Maybe download a trial later version, get the plugin and transcode to Avid media?

With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660


On Thursday, 29 August 2019, 17:04:02 BST, Tim McLaughlin mcltim.156@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Friend of mine running MC 5.5.2 on a Windows 7 laptop is having difficulty importing material sourced from his Panasonic AVCCAM. Same setup worked fine last year for a similar project.

Error message that he is getting is along the lines of "this is not the first clip of a spanned clip, if this is a spanned clip it will be out of sync."

Of course - none of these files are spanned.

As a result of this message, he finds himself unable to batch import his material and is having to import one entire week of footage one clip at a time. I suggested that he AMA the files into his system, but he has been unable to do so - I'm guessing because of the age of his system.


--
Tim McLaughlin
Premiere Pro Editor (who once upon a time worked in Avid and Final Cut too!)
http://vimeo.com/mcltim

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[Avid-L2] Scaling DCI 4096_2160 to UHD 3840_2160 Efficiency?

 

We use to deliver everything 4096_2160 but now only the archive masters will be DCI.  It's easy enough to scale an IMF during creation to UHD Letter Box but now they want a DPX that is also 3840_2160.  I've posted before that the problem with switching the project to UHD is all the paint outs shift vertically off due to the scale to fit in a different aspect ratio.

Last night I took a 19 minute section into Resolve and created a sequence from the DPX 4096_2160 source.  I made the timeline settings UHD and input scaling at scale to fit.  This produced the necessary letterbox.  The export took 3 hours.  The source was from a Graid 20TB drive hooked up USB 3 on a sonnet card in my expansion chassis for my macpro mid 2012 12 core upgraded to 3.46GHz.  It didn't seem to mater if I exported back to the Graid or my internal 4 stripe raid the time estimate was just over 3 hours.  So I figure my typical hour ish show will take 9 plus hours. 

The original DPX export from Avid took about 6 hours.  I know Avid is much faster with DPX exports these days but my storage infrastructure isn't super fast hence the 6 hours.  It use to take 9 hours before Avid beefed up DPX performance.

Now I'm thinking I would be better off creating a video mixdown in Avid at 4096_2160 then switch the project to UHD and set the frame flex to scale to fit then export a DPX.  I'm betting that will be faster than trying to scale the original DPX.

Anybody got some secret workflow/mojo that makes more sense.  Well other than production just shooting UHD in the first place.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 11:54 AM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Assistance needed on older Avid project

 

I'm guessing that 5.5.2 did not offer AMA for such Panasonic clips. Maybe download a trial later version, get the plugin and transcode to Avid media?

With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660


On Thursday, 29 August 2019, 17:04:02 BST, Tim McLaughlin mcltim.156@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Friend of mine running MC 5.5.2 on a Windows 7 laptop is having difficulty importing material sourced from his Panasonic AVCCAM. Same setup worked fine last year for a similar project.

Error message that he is getting is along the lines of "this is not the first clip of a spanned clip, if this is a spanned clip it will be out of sync."

Of course - none of these files are spanned.

As a result of this message, he finds himself unable to batch import his material and is having to import one entire week of footage one clip at a time. I suggested that he AMA the files into his system, but he has been unable to do so - I'm guessing because of the age of his system.


--
Tim McLaughlin
Premiere Pro Editor (who once upon a time worked in Avid and Final Cut too!)
http://vimeo.com/mcltim

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