Friday, February 16, 2018

[Avid-L2] Re: More Font Joy than Humans should be allowed to have?

 

So I was able to get a copy of the original OTF fonts from the project I was working on.  When I load them onto my home Mac System OS 10.12.5 Avid 8.9.4 all the different fonts are listed properly in Avid Title Tool.  This was not my experience on the PC based facility system not sure which windows OS but it was Avid 8.6.5.  While my mac home system with show EnglishGrotesque Bold, and EnglishGrotesque Medium etc... in the font choices on the PC when I just loaded EnglishGrotesque Bold it appeared as a choice in Title Tool as just EnglishGroteque.  Then when I added a second variant of EnglishGrotesque to the computer I still only saw one choice for EnglishGrotesque in Titile tool.  I did restart Avid after adding each font so that's not the issue.

My quick google says that OTF fonts are supposed to work properly in both Mac and PC so I'm still in a quandary as to what the facility did to convert the fonts for proper functionality in Avid PC title tool.

I played around with  TransType Pro and found the following properties for the bold version:
Font Family: EnglishGroutesque
Style name: Bold
Full name: EnglishGrotesque Bold
PS Font name: EnglishGrotesque-Bold
Menu name: EnglishGrotesque-Bold
OT Family name: EnglishGrotesque
OT Style name: Bold

On my mac home system in title tool this font was listed as EnglishGroteque Bold where as on the facility pc the title tool just showed EnglishGroteque.  Does this mean that the PC system is using either the Font Family or OT Family name instead of how the mac system seems to be listing the Full name property?

There are all kinds of interesting but overwhelming elements to fonts that I have no clear understanding of.  It doesn't seem like this should be so convoluted but what can I say?  Are there any Fontologists out there with some insight as to what's going on here.  I now know there is a way to convert and fix the issue I had I just don't know what they did.

And as always in case you forgot.  I HATE FONTS!!!



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

Working at a large facility this week and I ran into a Font Issue.  Offline was done on Mac and online on PC Avid.  The Font was EnglishGrotesque and when recreating the titles first Avid asked for EnglishGrotesque Bold.  We found that OTF font and installed it.  I had to point the font substitution to find it.  Then recreating it asks for EnglishGrotesque Medium.  Then the age old problem of Title Tool happens.  I load onto the PC the second font for EnglishGrotesque Medium but in Avid Title Tool only one choice for EnglishGrotesque shows up.  There is no appendage for Bold or Medium.  This is nothing new to me but I've never found a solution.  In photoshop both choices show up with the appendage EnglishGrotesque Bold and EnglishGrotesque Medium.

The next day I'm told the Facility IT guy ran the fonts through a Mac only converter and now in title tool I can see all the different EnglishGrotesque Bold, EnglishGrotesque Medium and 4 other variants.  The day online editor told me he still had to manually assign the fonts in the font substitution dialogue but now they are at least listed properly.  I want to know what was done but I'm not at the facility now.  Does anyone know what might have been used to convert the fonts?  I was also told that in converting they renamed each font in the family with the correct appendage name and they removed a space between EnglishGroutesque and the various appendage of Bold, Medium etc...  Somehow removing the space was important in this process.

I have Transtype Pro and have converted mac to PC and vice versa.  I recall there was a category of settings/parameters where there were fields of date for Font Family, Font Menu Name and a few other parameters.  I feel like whatever was done in the font conversion was effecting this parameters so that Title Tool would see each of the Font Family Styles with unique names.  I also seem to recall there being some function in TransType Pro that would the unique style names for each font into the menu name category.

Is there anyone with more Font knowledge that might have a clue what program the facility used and/or if I am correct in thinking TransType Pro could be a tool that could do this.  Any Font insight would be appreciated.  I'm of the impression that Title Tool's antiquated code is missing some basic functionality that Photoshop and virtually all other font related programs have when it comes to listing multiple variants in a font family. 

Hey wait isn't there an updated Title Tool replacement besides New Boo Effects?  I thought I heard that was in the works.  Has it happened and I missed it?

Bottom line:  I HATE FONTS!!!! 
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...

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Re: [Avid-L2] Win10 Troubleshooting

 

Unless Baselight have released an update to v.4.4x, I believe it´s incompatible with Win10. Remember trying to install this a few months ago and giving up. The docs mentioned this. RTFM!


On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:31 PM, avid@spraker.tv [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Trying to install my first Win10 Media Composer with BCC10, Baselight, Mac Drive.

 

Any resources for troubleshooting?  The system is unstable, often the taskbar is not responsive.  I'm about to reload the OS but curious if there might be other things to try…

 

Nitris driver is coming in 2018.3.

 

TIA,

 

- Dave

 

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(971) 267-7661

 


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Thursday, February 15, 2018

Re: [Avid-L2] Some GoPro TC issues

 

I don't have an answer to your problem but have seen similar issues from time to time.  Bouke at VideoToolshed has a QT Change program and a few other utilities that might allow you to add proper time code to you files.  He has some designed to add time code to Go Pros and there are options to derive time code from the THM file for Go Pros that don't have real time code.  I think it was somewhere around Go Pro 3s that their files started to a have some sort of real time code.  The Videotoolshed utlilities are great especially because Bouke is very helpful.  I honestly only use some of the basic functions but wish I would master some of the more interesting functions they offer.

Is there a particular reason you are worried about the time code currently associated with the clips?  I'm assuming that each of the clips is starting with 00:00:00:00 so they don't have unique time codes.  I don't know what the Go Pro Studio does about maintaining the original clip time code.  I've seen some programs that lose the original time code so I wouldn't be surprised if that is happening.  If you ama to the pre de fish eyed clips do they have unique time codes that make sense?

I think if you have already created your full rez master clips that have been de eyeed you should still be able to relink to them.  Just because all the clips have a zero start time if they are ama'd properly and no tape name added they should still remain unique sources.  It's not like the days of digitized tapes that had repeated sections of the same time code.  Or am I wrong about this?


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <danlist@...> wrote :

Thanks for the reply. I tried doing that through the modify dialogue, clicked through a few warnings and ended up at the message

"Unable to change the source on clip 'GOPRO120.new.01'. Could not find existing source information."

Any other thoughts?


On Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 7:19 PM, John Pale wrote:
Try giving it a reel number first. 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 6:01 PM Dan McCabe danlist@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I put some GoPro clips through GoPro Studio to remove fisheye, then AMAed them into an AVID project (MC 8.5.5) and transcoded them to DNxHD.

I just noticed while editing that the files don't seem to have any timecode.

When I try to modify the clips to add a start timecode, I am warned there are associated media files and then it cancels the modification with an "Exception:CM_NO_SOURCE" error.

I thought maybe the AMA database was causing trouble so I deleted it but still having problems.

Any reason I shouldn't be able to change the TC on an Avid MXF file? Any suggestions as to how to proceed? I've already done some editing with the files and would naturally prefer to save that work.

Thanks!


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Re: [Avid-L2] Some GoPro TC issues

 

Thanks for the reply. I tried doing that through the modify dialogue, clicked through a few warnings and ended up at the message

"Unable to change the source on clip 'GOPRO120.new.01'. Could not find existing source information."

Any other thoughts?


On Thu, Feb 15, 2018, at 7:19 PM, John Pale wrote:
Try giving it a reel number first. 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 6:01 PM Dan McCabe danlist@bestmail.us [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I put some GoPro clips through GoPro Studio to remove fisheye, then AMAed them into an AVID project (MC 8.5.5) and transcoded them to DNxHD.

I just noticed while editing that the files don't seem to have any timecode.

When I try to modify the clips to add a start timecode, I am warned there are associated media files and then it cancels the modification with an "Exception:CM_NO_SOURCE" error.

I thought maybe the AMA database was causing trouble so I deleted it but still having problems.

Any reason I shouldn't be able to change the TC on an Avid MXF file? Any suggestions as to how to proceed? I've already done some editing with the files and would naturally prefer to save that work.

Thanks!



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Re: [Avid-L2] Some GoPro TC issues

 

Try giving it a reel number first. 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 6:01 PM Dan McCabe danlist@bestmail.us [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I put some GoPro clips through GoPro Studio to remove fisheye, then AMAed them into an AVID project (MC 8.5.5) and transcoded them to DNxHD.

I just noticed while editing that the files don't seem to have any timecode.

When I try to modify the clips to add a start timecode, I am warned there are associated media files and then it cancels the modification with an "Exception:CM_NO_SOURCE" error.

I thought maybe the AMA database was causing trouble so I deleted it but still having problems.

Any reason I shouldn't be able to change the TC on an Avid MXF file? Any suggestions as to how to proceed? I've already done some editing with the files and would naturally prefer to save that work.

Thanks!

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[Avid-L2] Win10 Troubleshooting

 

Trying to install my first Win10 Media Composer with BCC10, Baselight, Mac Drive.

 

Any resources for troubleshooting?  The system is unstable, often the taskbar is not responsive.  I’m about to reload the OS but curious if there might be other things to try…

 

Nitris driver is coming in 2018.3.

 

TIA,

 

- Dave

 

dave@spraker.tv

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 3:31 PM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] Some GoPro TC issues

 

I put some GoPro clips through GoPro Studio to remove fisheye, then AMAed them into an AVID project (MC 8.5.5) and transcoded them to DNxHD.

I just noticed while editing that the files don't seem to have any timecode.

When I try to modify the clips to add a start timecode, I am warned there are associated media files and then it cancels the modification with an "Exception:CM_NO_SOURCE" error.

I thought maybe the AMA database was causing trouble so I deleted it but still having problems.

Any reason I shouldn't be able to change the TC on an Avid MXF file? Any suggestions as to how to proceed? I've already done some editing with the files and would naturally prefer to save that work.

Thanks!

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[Avid-L2] 50p gotchas

 

Hello,

We’re about to embark on a project which is being filmed in a mixture of 25 and 50p and mastered in 50P.

I just wondered if anyone has any experiences to share around the mechanics of the offline edit, ie. Working in a 25 or 50 timebase?

I know in theory it shouldn’t matter what the editors decide to use, but as there are multiple editors working on the same film at the same time, just want to check there’s not a reason they should decide do all do one or the other…

Any concerns around sending stuff for the audio mix in PT? The picture finishing would be done on a different (non avid) system.

 

Any advice gratefully received,

 

Thanks,

Adam

 

 

 

 

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Wednesday, February 14, 2018

[Avid-L2] More Font Joy than Humans should be allowed to have?

 

Working at a large facility this week and I ran into a Font Issue.  Offline was done on Mac and online on PC Avid.  The Font was EnglishGrotesque and when recreating the titles first Avid asked for EnglishGrotesque Bold.  We found that OTF font and installed it.  I had to point the font substitution to find it.  Then recreating it asks for EnglishGrotesque Medium.  Then the age old problem of Title Tool happens.  I load onto the PC the second font for EnglishGrotesque Medium but in Avid Title Tool only one choice for EnglishGrotesque shows up.  There is no appendage for Bold or Medium.  This is nothing new to me but I've never found a solution.  In photoshop both choices show up with the appendage EnglishGrotesque Bold and EnglishGrotesque Medium.

The next day I'm told the Facility IT guy ran the fonts through a Mac only converter and now in title tool I can see all the different EnglishGrotesque Bold, EnglishGrotesque Medium and 4 other variants.  The day online editor told me he still had to manually assign the fonts in the font substitution dialogue but now they are at least listed properly.  I want to know what was done but I'm not at the facility now.  Does anyone know what might have been used to convert the fonts?  I was also told that in converting they renamed each font in the family with the correct appendage name and they removed a space between EnglishGroutesque and the various appendage of Bold, Medium etc...  Somehow removing the space was important in this process.

I have Transtype Pro and have converted mac to PC and vice versa.  I recall there was a category of settings/parameters where there were fields of date for Font Family, Font Menu Name and a few other parameters.  I feel like whatever was done in the font conversion was effecting this parameters so that Title Tool would see each of the Font Family Styles with unique names.  I also seem to recall there being some function in TransType Pro that would the unique style names for each font into the menu name category.

Is there anyone with more Font knowledge that might have a clue what program the facility used and/or if I am correct in thinking TransType Pro could be a tool that could do this.  Any Font insight would be appreciated.  I'm of the impression that Title Tool's antiquated code is missing some basic functionality that Photoshop and virtually all other font related programs have when it comes to listing multiple variants in a font family. 

Hey wait isn't there an updated Title Tool replacement besides New Boo Effects?  I thought I heard that was in the works.  Has it happened and I missed it?

Bottom line:  I HATE FONTS!!!! 
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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