Saturday, September 5, 2015

[Avid-L2] Re: OMF/AAF from Premier to ProTools Issues?

 

I realize there is a lot of power in the Adobe suite but something as basic as an export to ProTools is part of the price of admission in a "Professional Broadcast" world IMHO.  This combined with the lack of a viable backwards compatibility of AE projects which is tandem with tying the Mac OS to which version of CC suite can be run is a pretty horrible approach to my world.  I can't be tied to the latest Mac OS when I will lose my San infrastructure etc...

I'm not trying to be narrow minded here but these are square one issues in the world Adobe is trying to be a player in.  Am I missing something here?



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John,

I haven't gone PProCC to PT, but I have gone to Logic Pro X via AAF. This was all with double-system sound audio (4-ch. BWF). We tried OMF and XML and Logic wouldn't access the files with these. AAF worked with access, but I ran into issues with audio dissolves. I use a lot of them in dialogue editing.

Every place I'd done that, there was an equal length gap left on the track in Logic. However, the full media was there from both ends of the dissolve. The result was that the dialogue shifted further out of sync with each audio dissolve. The fix was to remove all audio dissolves from the Premiere timeline and re-export the AAF. This worked, but of course, all levels are stripped out.

Since I partially chalked this up to Logic, it's interesting to hear that you are having issues with Pro Tools, as well. FWIW - my timelines translated perfectly into Audition.

Since this was a simple project (on-cam dialogue & VO + music), I simply exported a dialogue-only master with my mix levels and transitions "baked in" for the mixer to polish up. We scrapped the AAF entirely because it was pointless in having the mixer rebuild all my audio transitions.

- Oliver

I've been told by our mixer he recently did a mix for a Premiere Pro project and getting an omf/aaf from Premiere was very problematic.  Today we have a Premiere Project that is doing the same thing for him.  We are trying to get a hold of the editor from his previous premiere project but I'm wondering if anyone here has run into this battle.
The mixer said ultimately on his last Premiere Project they ended up sending him a ton of omf/aafs that had to be combined.  It was something like an omf/aaf for every track.  The mixer has talked with his colleagues who have had similar issues and they said again they were sent a a bunch of omf/aafs and eventually one worked for them.
What's up with this?  I'm told they even tried going XML to final cut to get to protools but that didn't work either John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...

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Re: [Avid-L2] 8.4.1 update has licensing issues

 

Thanks for the update!


On Sat, Sep 5, 2015, 15:08 tcurren@aol.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I am seeing lots of folks with licensing problems after updating to 8.4.1. I would suggest not doing it at least until Marianna gets back next week.


And if you use Spot Color Correction, don't update at all.

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(Enviado desde mi teléfono, perdón por la ortografía)

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[Avid-L2] 8.4.1 update has licensing issues

 

I am seeing lots of folks with licensing problems after updating to 8.4.1. I would suggest not doing it at least until Marianna gets back next week.


And if you use Spot Color Correction, don't update at all.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Latest Art of the Cut interview is the best yet.

 

Hi Steve,

That is one great interview.

Lots of great practical info plus a great insight into the making of a major movie.

Keep these interviews coming!

Alan Miller


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[Avid-L2] Re: OMF/AAF from Premier to ProTools Issues?

 

We've also had issues going from Premiere to ProTools. And trying to go from Premiere to Avid via AAF is a non-starter.

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[Avid-L2] Re: OMF/AAF from Premier to ProTools Issues?

 

John,


I haven't gone PProCC to PT, but I have gone to Logic Pro X via AAF. This was all with double-system sound audio (4-ch. BWF). We tried OMF and XML and Logic wouldn't access the files with these. AAF worked with access, but I ran into issues with audio dissolves. I use a lot of them in dialogue editing.

Every place I'd done that, there was an equal length gap left on the track in Logic. However, the full media was there from both ends of the dissolve. The result was that the dialogue shifted further out of sync with each audio dissolve. The fix was to remove all audio dissolves from the Premiere timeline and re-export the AAF. This worked, but of course, all levels are stripped out.

Since I partially chalked this up to Logic, it's interesting to hear that you are having issues with Pro Tools, as well. FWIW - my timelines translated perfectly into Audition.

Since this was a simple project (on-cam dialogue & VO + music), I simply exported a dialogue-only master with my mix levels and transitions "baked in" for the mixer to polish up. We scrapped the AAF entirely because it was pointless in having the mixer rebuild all my audio transitions.

- Oliver

I've been told by our mixer he recently did a mix for a Premiere Pro project and getting an omf/aaf from Premiere was very problematic.  Today we have a Premiere Project that is doing the same thing for him.  We are trying to get a hold of the editor from his previous premiere project but I'm wondering if anyone here has run into this battle.
The mixer said ultimately on his last Premiere Project they ended up sending him a ton of omf/aafs that had to be combined.  It was something like an omf/aaf for every track.  The mixer has talked with his colleagues who have had similar issues and they said again they were sent a a bunch of omf/aafs and eventually one worked for them.
What's up with this?  I'm told they even tried going XML to final cut to get to protools but that didn't work either John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Friday, September 4, 2015

[Avid-L2] OMF/AAF from Premier to ProTools Issues?

 

I've been told by our mixer he recently did a mix for a Premiere Pro project and getting an omf/aaf from Premiere was very problematic.  Today we have a Premiere Project that is doing the same thing for him.  We are trying to get a hold of the editor from his previous premiere project but I'm wondering if anyone here has run into this battle.

The mixer said ultimately on his last Premiere Project they ended up sending him a ton of omf/aafs that had to be combined.  It was something like an omf/aaf for every track.  The mixer has talked with his colleagues who have had similar issues and they said again they were sent a a bunch of omf/aafs and eventually one worked for them.

What's up with this?  I'm told they even tried going XML to final cut to get to protools but that didn't work either
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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[Avid-L2] Where does the Avid Timeline Font come from?

 

In setting up my new work computer I needed to bring some Fonts from the old system over.  I started doing this one at a time but then figured I could just drag the contents of the old drives Font folder into the Font Folder on the new drive and skip any duplicate fonts.  This worked but I was prompted about a font, can't remember which one, that said something about a font being used by the system and I should put this font into the trash.

After doing this I notice my timeline clip names are in some odd sariffy font that's hard to read.  I'm assuming that Avid uses some "system" font or something that got re positioned or replaced when I copied the fonts over.  Curious I remember a thread from a while back about whacky fonts showing up in Avid but can't remember what the subject was.

Anybody know how I can restore a more readable font for Avid?
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: 8.4 DPX AMA

 

We didn't spot it on our Grade 1 monitor but someone spotted it in the grade where they watch on a big projector.

 

Nige

 

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Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: 8.4 DPX AMA

 

 

Curious how obvious is a 1 pixel offset in the red channel to the naked eye?  Does it take more scrutiny than looking at the program monitor to discover the offset?



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Hi there

 

We have found that DPX files seem to come in with a 1 pixel offset in the red channel. Anyone else found this or have a workaround… We think this isn't the case in 8.3, maybe that's the workaround!

 

NIge

 

 

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[Avid-L2] Re: 8.4.1 update warning

 

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[Avid-L2] Re: 29.97p Digital Cut issues in Symphony 8

 

I think my AE and I figured it out.
I had some projects crashing, and some weren't. I noticed the difference between these projects was in Media Creation setting, under Capture Settings.
Capture settings on the crashing projects was locked in at J2K 1080p 29.97 and didn't offer any other settings.
We looked into it more and found that the CAPTURE TOOL itself was defaulted to FIREWIRE VIDEO RESOLUTION.
When we changed that setting to NONE or HDSDI, we got our other options, changed the CAPTURE SETTINGS within the MEDIA CREATION TOOL to match the PROJECT SETTINGS, and the error went away. I was able to to turn on DIGITAL CUT without any ERRORS.

I am going to try to layoff to tape today and see if this did truly fix the problem.

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[Avid-L2] Re: 8.4.1 update warning

 

Terry 

Can you please email me this info so I can escalate it?
Marianna

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Thursday, September 3, 2015

Re: [Avid-L2] 8.4.1 update warning

 


2200 miles isn't far enough Steve!

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You've been asking for an update to the color corrector for years.  Now you finally get one and you complain about that too!  There's just no pleasing some people.  (this comment made safely from 2200 miles away :-P  )

Steve Pomerantz
www.stevepomerantzeditorial.com

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