Saturday, August 3, 2019

Re: [Avid-L2] Can't Consolidate Clips with embedded LUTs?

 

One thing I've posted about before is even when I uncheck in color management to auto add LUTs on linking and also not to use CDL info sometimes they info still gets added on linking.  Embedded Luts seems to ignore this setting and they always seem to come in.  I'm not sure where the metadata is carried perhaps it is only written to the first frame so consolidating might miss it if the first frame is not included.  I'm just guessing but it seems silly.  Once I replace it with the stock LUT all is well.

So besides not doing much consolidating in 4K perhsps because I always use stock not embedded LUTs this is the first time I've run into this.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <pale.edit@...> wrote :

Not really helpful but Premiere can't media manage Arri files with embedded LUTs either.  Copies the entire media file and cannot trim/consolidate.  Wonder what the issue is.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:21 PM John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I am virtually always transcoding the DNxHRHQX in my 4K workflows.  Today I had Arri LogC in ProRes 4444.  I was given the entire offline project that was done in full res.  I went to consolidate the final sequence with handles to my internal raid but got an error saying some of the clips can't be consolidated because they have embedded LUTs, I can't remember if it said LUTs or something else but the idea was that the clips had embedded scalers etc...  What the clips had was a legal to full range then the Arri LogC to Rec 709 that I've seen before.  I assume this is generated in the Arri camera.

I ended up deleting the existing source setting color adapter and replacing it with the Avid standard LogC to Rec 709 that would appear when I hit the auto button.  Then the clips would consolidate.  I wasn't baking int the LUTs so I don't get why the embedded info was problematic for consolidation.  MC 2018.12.3 MacPro OS 10.12.6.  Never seen this before but I haven't done much consolidating in 4K.

Anybody know why this behavior happens?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...

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Re: [Avid-L2] Can't Consolidate Clips with embedded LUTs?

 

Not really helpful but Premiere can't media manage Arri files with embedded LUTs either.  Copies the entire media file and cannot trim/consolidate.  Wonder what the issue is..

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:21 PM John Moore bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I am virtually always transcoding the DNxHRHQX in my 4K workflows.  Today I had Arri LogC in ProRes 4444.  I was given the entire offline project that was done in full res.  I went to consolidate the final sequence with handles to my internal raid but got an error saying some of the clips can't be consolidated because they have embedded LUTs, I can't remember if it said LUTs or something else but the idea was that the clips had embedded scalers etc...  What the clips had was a legal to full range then the Arri LogC to Rec 709 that I've seen before.  I assume this is generated in the Arri camera.

I ended up deleting the existing source setting color adapter and replacing it with the Avid standard LogC to Rec 709 that would appear when I hit the auto button.  Then the clips would consolidate..  I wasn't baking int the LUTs so I don't get why the embedded info was problematic for consolidation.  MC 2018.12.3 MacPro OS 10.12.6.  Never seen this before but I haven't done much consolidating in 4K.

Anybody know why this behavior happens?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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[Avid-L2] Can't Consolidate Clips with embedded LUTs?

 

I am virtually always transcoding the DNxHRHQX in my 4K workflows.  Today I had Arri LogC in ProRes 4444.  I was given the entire offline project that was done in full res.  I went to consolidate the final sequence with handles to my internal raid but got an error saying some of the clips can't be consolidated because they have embedded LUTs, I can't remember if it said LUTs or something else but the idea was that the clips had embedded scalers etc...  What the clips had was a legal to full range then the Arri LogC to Rec 709 that I've seen before.  I assume this is generated in the Arri camera.

I ended up deleting the existing source setting color adapter and replacing it with the Avid standard LogC to Rec 709 that would appear when I hit the auto button.  Then the clips would consolidate.  I wasn't baking int the LUTs so I don't get why the embedded info was problematic for consolidation.  MC 2018.12.3 MacPro OS 10.12.6.  Never seen this before but I haven't done much consolidating in 4K.

Anybody know why this behavior happens?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Friday, August 2, 2019

Re: [Avid-L2] MC Auto-Adding Bad Color Transforms

 

I haven't dabbled in 2019 yet.  I had posted about floating bins before and Marianna pointed me to a document that IIRC said it is possible to float bins.  Is there a master setting that will make a bin float automatically so every time I make a new bin it floats, like Avid has always worked before?  I know I need to RTFM but I'm curious on this point.

I am in no hurry to jump to 2019 at the moment but I'm interested in how I can make it work in Dinosaur mode so I don't have to rewrap my brain too much.  These days my brain seems low on bandwidth or maybe my brain just decided to store memory in a different codec than I'm use to.  It's like my ama brain link is not working and I don't have the correct plugin.  ;-)_


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <rogershuff@...> wrote :

It's not sorted but my advice would be:
1) Make entirely new settings and trash the Site Setting file from any previous version before you start.
2) Float ALL the windows (panels). This way you can set up your workspaces. Unfortunately the Bin Container is not part of a workspace. You need to create bin setups - a royal pain. What they need is a modern equivalent of the good old Superbin which can be locked into a relationship with everything else in a workspace.

With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660


On Friday, 2 August 2019, 16:44:23 BST, ammfx ammfx@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

I've had nothing but trouble with 2019. I can't even set up my interface. If I move a S/R windows or any other part, everything else on the screen disappears. I've watched tutorials, RTFM and nothing helps. I spent two days trying to figure this out. 
I'm done for now. Going back.
Alan Miller



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy Note 8

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From: "David Dodson davidadodson@... [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 8/2/19 11:11 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, hoplist <hoplist@...>
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] MC Auto-Adding Bad Color Transforms

There are a LOT of bugs in 2019. For example, try dragging a clip from a bin in Frame View from a left monitor across to the Source window in a right monitor, and watch what happens in the bin…


David Dodson



On Aug 2, 2019, at 7:20 AM, hoplist hoplist@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I'm just starting to play around with MC2019. When AMA linking to NTSC ProRes masters, Media Composer is automatically adding two Color Transformations: "ACES to linear" and "Linear to REC709/2020". It does not add these transformations to HD clips for some reason, only SD. At least so far.

The result is predictably atrocious and I have to open Source Settings and delete them.

Is this just a bug or am I missing something I need to change?

The project is set to YCbCr 709 HD1080p project. The sources are Quicktime ProRes NTSC masters.

Cheers,
tod


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Re: [Avid-L2] MC Auto-Adding Bad Color Transforms

 

It's not sorted but my advice would be:
1) Make entirely new settings and trash the Site Setting file from any previous version before you start.
2) Float ALL the windows (panels). This way you can set up your workspaces. Unfortunately the Bin Container is not part of a workspace. You need to create bin setups - a royal pain. What they need is a modern equivalent of the good old Superbin which can be locked into a relationship with everything else in a workspace.

With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660


On Friday, 2 August 2019, 16:44:23 BST, ammfx ammfx@yahoo.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

I've had nothing but trouble with 2019. I can't even set up my interface. If I move a S/R windows or any other part, everything else on the screen disappears. I've watched tutorials, RTFM and nothing helps. I spent two days trying to figure this out. 
I'm done for now. Going back.
Alan Miller



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy Note 8

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From: "David Dodson davidadodson@sbcglobal.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 8/2/19 11:11 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, hoplist <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com>
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] MC Auto-Adding Bad Color Transforms

There are a LOT of bugs in 2019. For example, try dragging a clip from a bin in Frame View from a left monitor across to the Source window in a right monitor, and watch what happens in the bin…


David Dodson



On Aug 2, 2019, at 7:20 AM, hoplist hoplist@hillmanncarr.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I'm just starting to play around with MC2019. When AMA linking to NTSC ProRes masters, Media Composer is automatically adding two Color Transformations: "ACES to linear" and "Linear to REC709/2020". It does not add these transformations to HD clips for some reason, only SD. At least so far.

The result is predictably atrocious and I have to open Source Settings and delete them.

Is this just a bug or am I missing something I need to change?

The project is set to YCbCr 709 HD1080p project. The sources are Quicktime ProRes NTSC masters.

Cheers,
tod


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Re: [Avid-L2] MC Auto-Adding Bad Color Transforms

 

I'm also struggling with bins not remembering where they are, settings for basic UI, and strange clip arrangements in bins. A LOT of this stuff is broken. I'm certainly hoping this stuff will be fixed soon. Really hoping.




On Aug 2, 2019, at 8:24 AM, ammfx ammfx@yahoo.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I've had nothing but trouble with 2019. I can't even set up my interface. If I move a S/R windows or any other part, everything else on the screen disappears. I've watched tutorials, RTFM and nothing helps.. I spent two days trying to figure this out. 
I'm done for now. Going back.
Alan Miller



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy Note 8

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From: "David Dodson davidadodson@sbcglobal.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> 
Date: 8/2/19 11:11 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] MC Auto-Adding Bad Color Transforms

There are a LOT of bugs in 2019. For example, try dragging a clip from a bin in Frame View from a left monitor across to the Source window in a right monitor, and watch what happens in the bin…



On Aug 2, 2019, at 7:20 AM, hoplist hoplist@hillmanncarr.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I'm just starting to play around with MC2019. When AMA linking to NTSC ProRes masters, Media Composer is automatically adding two Color Transformations: "ACES to linear" and "Linear to REC709/2020". It does not add these transformations to HD clips for some reason, only SD. At least so far.

The result is predictably atrocious and I have to open Source Settings and delete them.

Is this just a bug or am I missing something I need to change?

The project is set to YCbCr 709 HD1080p project. The sources are Quicktime ProRes NTSC masters.

Cheers,
tod




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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 8:50 AM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] free stuff

 

I have a few thousand feet of SDI cable - Gepco VPM2000 - various lengths and bundles, all with BNC connectors, mostly 50-100' lengths, some shorter.

I will give you whatever you need, as long as supply lasts, and you pay for shipping - and I enjoy a very low shipping rate.

specs:

http://www.gepco.com/products/proav_cable/video/coax_hd_sdi_F.htm?v=2

http://www.gepco.com/technical/sdi_distance_chart.htm?v=2

prefer it goes to a good home than into the landfill or recycle.

gh

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Re: [Avid-L2] MC Auto-Adding Bad Color Transforms

 

Yes, I'm seeing that. My initial install would not load. I had to find and remove an audio plugin.


On Aug 2, 2019, at 11:11 AM, David Dodson davidadodson@sbcglobal..net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

There are a LOT of bugs in 2019. For example, try dragging a clip from a bin in Frame View from a left monitor across to the Source window in a right monitor, and watch what happens in the bin…




On Aug 2, 2019, at 7:20 AM, hoplist hoplist@hillmanncarr.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I'm just starting to play around with MC2019. When AMA linking to NTSC ProRes masters, Media Composer is automatically adding two Color Transformations: "ACES to linear" and "Linear to REC709/2020". It does not add these transformations to HD clips for some reason, only SD. At least so far..

The result is predictably atrocious and I have to open Source Settings and delete them.

Is this just a bug or am I missing something I need to change?

The project is set to YCbCr 709 HD1080p project. The sources are Quicktime ProRes NTSC masters.

Cheers,
tod




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Re: [Avid-L2] MC Auto-Adding Bad Color Transforms

 

I've had nothing but trouble with 2019. I can't even set up my interface. If I move a S/R windows or any other part, everything else on the screen disappears. I've watched tutorials, RTFM and nothing helps. I spent two days trying to figure this out. 
I'm done for now. Going back.
Alan Miller



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy Note 8

-------- Original message --------
From: "David Dodson davidadodson@sbcglobal.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 8/2/19 11:11 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, hoplist <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com>
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] MC Auto-Adding Bad Color Transforms

There are a LOT of bugs in 2019. For example, try dragging a clip from a bin in Frame View from a left monitor across to the Source window in a right monitor, and watch what happens in the bin…



On Aug 2, 2019, at 7:20 AM, hoplist hoplist@hillmanncarr.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I'm just starting to play around with MC2019. When AMA linking to NTSC ProRes masters, Media Composer is automatically adding two Color Transformations: "ACES to linear" and "Linear to REC709/2020". It does not add these transformations to HD clips for some reason, only SD. At least so far.

The result is predictably atrocious and I have to open Source Settings and delete them.

Is this just a bug or am I missing something I need to change?

The project is set to YCbCr 709 HD1080p project. The sources are Quicktime ProRes NTSC masters.

Cheers,
tod


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Re: [Avid-L2] MC Auto-Adding Bad Color Transforms

 

That was fixed (I think) in 2019.7.

With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660


On Friday, 2 August 2019, 16:11:51 BST, David Dodson davidadodson@sbcglobal.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

There are a LOT of bugs in 2019. For example, try dragging a clip from a bin in Frame View from a left monitor across to the Source window in a right monitor, and watch what happens in the bin…



David Dodson



On Aug 2, 2019, at 7:20 AM, hoplist hoplist@hillmanncarr.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I'm just starting to play around with MC2019. When AMA linking to NTSC ProRes masters, Media Composer is automatically adding two Color Transformations: "ACES to linear" and "Linear to REC709/2020". It does not add these transformations to HD clips for some reason, only SD. At least so far..

The result is predictably atrocious and I have to open Source Settings and delete them.

Is this just a bug or am I missing something I need to change?

The project is set to YCbCr 709 HD1080p project. The sources are Quicktime ProRes NTSC masters.

Cheers,
tod


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