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RE: Re: [Avid-L2] OT: legal copy of MC

 

 Any mention of piracy of software isn't a "little outside the norm."   You ain't seen me be "aggressive" yet.   Anytime a Union Editor with IMDB credits pushes using Academic software in place of the Real version,  I call FUCKING BULLSHIT.   I don't give a flying rats ass if a software pirate is run the fuck off this list,  saves me the trouble of doing it myself.  


JDS



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <montgomery.glen@gmail.com> wrote:

I completely agree about the piracy issue, I'm calling you out for being overly aggressive with any posting that is slightly outside the norm. This is the second in one week that could have been addressed in a softer manner and kept the poster from despising this list. We gain nothing by running people off for minor things. 

Glen Montgomery - Video Editor
Santa Monica, CA


On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Jeff Sengpiehl <jeffsengpiehl@yahoo.com> wrote:

 
Glen, software piracy is not the way to be an editor-  Mike is 300% right.  We don't "chill " over this kind of bullshit.   

JDS. 


Sent on the run, sorry about the tippos
On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Glen Montgomery <montgomery.glen@gmail.com> wrote:

 
Man you really love running people off this list. Chill out a bit before you write these emails. 

Glen Montgomery - Video Editor
Santa Monica, CA


On Nov 16, 2013, at 5:46 PM, "Mikeparsons.tv" <mikeparsons.tv@gmail.com> wrote:

 
If you can't afford 1k for a new copy directly from the source then maybe editing is not fit you. 

There are plenty of opportunities in the food and beverage industry I hear.

Not joking. If your very first job doesn't cover the cost of the genuine software from the manufacturer then you are not a pro editor you are playing at it.

Next you'll be telling us you edit without scopes and you don't need a broadcast monitor because you've set up your view sonic screen just right and it looks great in your bedroom when you turn the big light off and work with just your Winnie the poo night light.

Mike 

On 17 Nov, 2013, at 5:17 am, Shawn Broes <shawn.broes@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Yes.

On Nov 16, 2013 1:54 PM, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Are you serious?




On 11/16/2013 4:47 PM, Shawn Broes wrote:
Ebay.
Buy an academic version.
It's the same, from what I've been told-


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@gmail.com> wrote:
 
I disagree. I have nothing but great experience buying in the Avid Store. 

DQS


On Nov 16, 2013, at 3:03 PM, "john@digitalcut.com" <john@digitalcut.com> wrote:

I meant to say:

"Don't ever buy from the Avid store"

John



On Nov 16, 2013, at 3:01 PM, "john@digitalcut.com" <john@digitalcut.com> wrote:

 
Yes, I agree - go to videoguys. Don't ever bit from the Avid store -- it's a horrible experience 



On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@ContactBen.com> wrote:

 



Check VideoGuys.com.
They may still be offering a discount for people who are switching.

Cheers,

B


On Nov 16, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Bogdan Grigorescu <bogdan_grigorescu@yahoo.com> wrote:

 


BG


From: "ethan@bonefirefilms.com" <ethan@bonefirefilms.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: legal copy of MC

 
Greetings,

I'm a long-time FCP editor who has generally worked with post houses running FCP 7 and Premiere. But lately, I've begun developing a relationship with a company who uses MC on Macs. I downloaded the 30-day trial, but would now like to buy my own, fully-licensed, legal copy of MC.

Any info on where to buy a legit used copy, or any gotchas to look out for are much appreciated.

Thanks!

Ethan Benninger











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[Avid-L2] RE: OT: legal copy of MC

 

Hi all, the OP ia asking for a legal copy of the software, or second hand, calm down; and the guy is not the one complaining about high price and low income. As for the sharp fox suggesting to purchase an academic version: that's not legal for professional use, so it's not what the OP is looking for, and it's not even legal for learning the software at home like you do, if you're not a student; cutting corners is not welcome by people who do not cut the corners, you smart boy.



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Greetings,

I'm a long-time FCP editor who has generally worked with post houses running FCP 7 and Premiere. But lately, I've begun developing a relationship with a company who uses MC on Macs. I downloaded the 30-day trial, but would now like to buy my own, fully-licensed, legal copy of MC.

Any info on where to buy a legit used copy, or any gotchas to look out for are much appreciated.

Thanks!

Ethan Benninger

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Re: [Avid-L2] More Horn-Tootin'

 


On Nov 16, 2013, at 10:48 PM, paulsulsky@comcast.net wrote:

Really nice. I like the pacing, shot selection and audio/video effects.

I say:

Thanks, Paul.  This one is a daily challenge, not because it's hard to do, but because it has to be done so quickly and done right.  There's no second chance.  The Freddy Mercury/David Bowie song "Under Pressure" is always in mind while working on it.   ;)

Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
    NBC Today Show, New York


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On Nov 16, 2013, at 8:42 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:

> If I cut and paste your link it works but for some reason right clicking and opening in a new tab or just clicking on it sends me to Brutally Honest Abe.  Somehow the automatic linking seems to lose some of the characters in your link.  Weird I'm on a mac running firefox.

I say:

I don't know why you're getting that.  I just tried it and it works for me.

John also said:

> Fun stuff on the open.  What are your wash effects coming from?  Prebuilt or internally built?  Like the shatter effect, remember when that kind of thing was big with the A-53 warp board?

I answer:

When you've got to finish in a hurry, everything must be prebuilt.  It's a matt key graphic effect.

Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
    NBC Today Show, New York


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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: legal copy of MC

 

videoguys or digitalmediakitchen may have some used licensed dongles for sale. dongles are great to have.

Owen's iphone

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:57 AM, <ethan@bonefirefilms.com> wrote:

Greetings,

I'm a long-time FCP editor who has generally worked with post houses running FCP 7 and Premiere. But lately, I've begun developing a relationship with a company who uses MC on Macs. I downloaded the 30-day trial, but would now like to buy my own, fully-licensed, legal copy of MC.

Any info on where to buy a legit used copy, or any gotchas to look out for are much appreciated.


Thanks!

Ethan Benninger





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[Avid-L2] RE: legal copy of MC

 

And just to Mike-
Why be so rude?
Sorry I'm not the amazing professional that you are-



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From: Mikeparsons.tv <mikeparsons.tv@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT: legal copy of MC
To: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>


 

If you can't afford 1k for a new copy directly from the source then maybe editing is not fit you. 

There are plenty of opportunities in the food and beverage industry I hear.

Not joking. If your very first job doesn't cover the cost of the genuine software from the manufacturer then you are not a pro editor you are playing at it.

Next you'll be telling us you edit without scopes and you don't need a broadcast monitor because you've set up your view sonic screen just right and it looks great in your bedroom when you turn the big light off and work with just your Winnie the poo night light.

Mike 

On 17 Nov, 2013, at 5:17 am, Shawn Broes <shawn.broes@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Yes.

On Nov 16, 2013 1:54 PM, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Are you serious?




On 11/16/2013 4:47 PM, Shawn Broes wrote:
Ebay.
Buy an academic version.
It's the same, from what I've been told-


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@gmail.com> wrote:
 
I disagree. I have nothing but great experience buying in the Avid Store. 

DQS


On Nov 16, 2013, at 3:03 PM, "john@digitalcut.com" <john@digitalcut.com> wrote:

I meant to say:

"Don't ever buy from the Avid store"

John



On Nov 16, 2013, at 3:01 PM, "john@digitalcut.com" <john@digitalcut.com> wrote:

 
Yes, I agree - go to videoguys. Don't ever bit from the Avid store -- it's a horrible experience 



On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@ContactBen.com> wrote:

 



Check VideoGuys.com.
They may still be offering a discount for people who are switching.

Cheers,

B


On Nov 16, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Bogdan Grigorescu <bogdan_grigorescu@yahoo.com> wrote:

 


BG


From: "ethan@bonefirefilms.com" <ethan@bonefirefilms.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: legal copy of MC

 
Greetings,

I'm a long-time FCP editor who has generally worked with post houses running FCP 7 and Premiere. But lately, I've begun developing a relationship with a company who uses MC on Macs. I downloaded the 30-day trial, but would now like to buy my own, fully-licensed, legal copy of MC.

Any info on where to buy a legit used copy, or any gotchas to look out for are much appreciated.

Thanks!

Ethan Benninger











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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: legal copy of MC

 

My suggestion was to help someone coming from another platform to learn more about Avid.
I spent a career in film, and in 2010 was forced to learn many new tools, none of which I had the money for,
so I appreciated the student version, and I thought this chap might as well.
It's helped me greatly, and I make no money off of it, so you all can stop panicking about that.

The rude comments and suggestion that I pirate movies were pretty uncalled for.
I use Avid professionally when not at home, and it's always legal, so they're not losing a precious dime because of me.
What a bunch of foolish whiners you all are.
Have a nice life-





On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:57 AM, <ethan@bonefirefilms.com> wrote:
 

Greetings,


I'm a long-time FCP editor who has generally worked with post houses running FCP 7 and Premiere. But lately, I've begun developing a relationship with a company who uses MC on Macs. I downloaded the 30-day trial, but would now like to buy my own, fully-licensed, legal copy of MC.

Any info on where to buy a legit used copy, or any gotchas to look out for are much appreciated.


Thanks!

Ethan Benninger





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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: legal copy of MC

 

Maybe it's because this week I have seen several jobs walk out my door to companies in my area that Autodesk knows are running cracked software and it a pretty sore point to someone who has over the years spent a over 5 million us on hardware and software.

The software is now so cheap there is no excuse to not go down legitimate channels and simply support the people creating the software we use to make a living.

What the original post was saying is how can I get into the sand professional software for less money than you suckers paid so I can then undercut you and take work away from you. And then I will find back and ask questions on how to achieve things that you will all willingly and happily tell me how to do.

I'm happy helping people, I'm happy to advise but I was trying to he a wake up call to the OP of if you want to play with big boy toys you have to put your money where your mouth is. Saying I come from a poor country is no excuse, I have friends in Ghana in India and Pakistan in Indonesia and more who make less than the OP stated. If you make 8000 a month and allocate 1% of your income to software you still pay for a full priced media composer in a year.

It's a ridiculous state of affairs that people complain about smoke at 3500 being overpriced when I paid literally 1 million us for my first flame with ciprico disk arrays (50,000 for 2 gig of dual interleaved ram for sgi onyx). All the kit is essentially free today so why look to save more money. If he takes three days looking for a bargain and saves 30% even at his own 8000 a month he is no better off than just ordering the damn thing online.

Anyway, I apologise if I was rude, the anger mostly came from the idiot saying buy the educational version.

Mike

On 17 Nov, 2013, at 11:32 am, Glen Montgomery <montgomery.glen@gmail.com> wrote:

 

I completely agree about the piracy issue, I'm calling you out for being overly aggressive with any posting that is slightly outside the norm. This is the second in one week that could have been addressed in a softer manner and kept the poster from despising this list. We gain nothing by running people off for minor things. 

Glen Montgomery - Video Editor
Santa Monica, CA


On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Jeff Sengpiehl <jeffsengpiehl@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Glen, software piracy is not the way to be an editor-  Mike is 300% right.  We don't "chill " over this kind of bullshit.   

JDS. 


Sent on the run, sorry about the tippos
On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Glen Montgomery <montgomery.glen@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Man you really love running people off this list. Chill out a bit before you write these emails. 

Glen Montgomery - Video Editor
Santa Monica, CA


On Nov 16, 2013, at 5:46 PM, "Mikeparsons.tv" <mikeparsons.tv@gmail.com> wrote:

 

If you can't afford 1k for a new copy directly from the source then maybe editing is not fit you. 

There are plenty of opportunities in the food and beverage industry I hear.

Not joking. If your very first job doesn't cover the cost of the genuine software from the manufacturer then you are not a pro editor you are playing at it.

Next you'll be telling us you edit without scopes and you don't need a broadcast monitor because you've set up your view sonic screen just right and it looks great in your bedroom when you turn the big light off and work with just your Winnie the poo night light.

Mike 

On 17 Nov, 2013, at 5:17 am, Shawn Broes <shawn.broes@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Yes.

On Nov 16, 2013 1:54 PM, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Are you serious?




On 11/16/2013 4:47 PM, Shawn Broes wrote:
Ebay.
Buy an academic version.
It's the same, from what I've been told-


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@gmail.com> wrote:
 
I disagree. I have nothing but great experience buying in the Avid Store. 

DQS


On Nov 16, 2013, at 3:03 PM, "john@digitalcut.com" <john@digitalcut.com> wrote:

I meant to say:

"Don't ever buy from the Avid store"

John



On Nov 16, 2013, at 3:01 PM, "john@digitalcut.com" <john@digitalcut.com> wrote:

 
Yes, I agree - go to videoguys. Don't ever bit from the Avid store -- it's a horrible experience 



On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@ContactBen.com> wrote:

 



Check VideoGuys.com.
They may still be offering a discount for people who are switching.

Cheers,

B


On Nov 16, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Bogdan Grigorescu <bogdan_grigorescu@yahoo.com> wrote:

 


BG


From: "ethan@bonefirefilms.com" <ethan@bonefirefilms.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: legal copy of MC

 
Greetings,

I'm a long-time FCP editor who has generally worked with post houses running FCP 7 and Premiere. But lately, I've begun developing a relationship with a company who uses MC on Macs. I downloaded the 30-day trial, but would now like to buy my own, fully-licensed, legal copy of MC.

Any info on where to buy a legit used copy, or any gotchas to look out for are much appreciated.

Thanks!

Ethan Benninger











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