[Avid-L2] Re: NitrisDX HDMI output YCbCr vs RGB No change?

I'm trying to regain my sanity for one but since you asked. It's a new bay, new monitor, new footage that is crappy. At least I have a good scope which I trust but I wanted to make sure when I was trying to balance the Pioneer Plasma to a Sony PVM 20L5 I wasn't somehow creating an issue comparing the HDMI feed to the Plasma to the HD component feed to the 20L5. When I could see no difference between HDMI settings I thought there might be some subtle gamma like issues between the settings that was creating a discrepancy between the monitors. It seems to my tired eyes the plasma is pulling the near blacks down a bit more than the CRT. This may be some sort of enhancement that helps give better looking blacks on the monitor. I'm not about to start digging for advanced menus on the plasma at this stage since the monitors are close depending on the video content. If Avid does lock the HDMI to YUV in an interlaced project it would be nice if it wouldn't let you toggle the settings in the video output pull down menu leading me to believe the HDMI was truely set to RGB. If there is really a drastic difference between the two I aint seeing it, which seems to support your information. I was starting to wonder if I could be seeing something like the difference in the betasp version of component signals vs regular component signals that I remember hearing about back in the day but never really spent much time in a component enviroment to really suss that one out. Bottom line is everything is working okay but I usually like to ring a bay out before I start color correcting but the weekend all by myself session with no AC or tech support, as if that exists anywhere these days. I will take some time tomorrow to see if a progressive project generates a noticable shift but now It's time to head out. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I'll keep you posted.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Grigoresco <bogdan_grigorescu@...> wrote:
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> 'The project is 59.94I if that would make any difference'
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> It does, big time. Interlaced projects are by nature YUV 422, so I think your MC filters out the RGB mode for HDMI. Switch the format(top tab in prj settings) to 1080p/29.97 and you should see the difference. Which is very noticeable by the way.
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> What are you trying to achieve anyway?
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> cheers,
> Bogdan Grigoresco
> www.finale.tv
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> --- On Sun, 2/21/10, John Moore <bigfish@...> wrote:
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> Subject: [Avid-L2] NitrisDX HDMI output YCbCr vs RGB No change?
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[Avid-L2] Re: NitrisDX HDMI output YCbCr vs RGB No change?

Try Psf and see what happens.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, John Moore <bigfish@...> wrote:
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> On hour 36 so my perception of White Balance is anything but clear.  Even so I'm in a bay new to me with a Panny High end consumer Plasma being fed from the NitrisDX via HDMI.  Comparing it to a PVM 20L5 being fed HD component I've got them reasonably close.  For the life of me I can't see a difference on the plasma when I switch the HDMI output from YCbCr to RGB.  Since the monitor goes black for a second or two when switching it's hard to compare A/B wise but I really don't see a noticeable difference on the display between the settings.  How drastic should the difference be?  The project is 59.94I if that would make any difference.  Could the monitor sense what it is being feed and adjust seemlessly.  If so why the two choices in Avid?  Are other monitors different in this aspect.  So many questions, so little sleep, too many air dates and now these are the monitors of our lives.
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Re: [Avid-L2] NitrisDX HDMI output YCbCr vs RGB No change?

'The project is 59.94I if that would make any difference'

It does, big time. Interlaced projects are by nature YUV 422, so I think your MC filters out the RGB mode for HDMI. Switch the format(top tab in prj settings) to 1080p/29.97 and you should see the difference. Which is very noticeable by the way.

What are you trying to achieve anyway?

cheers,
Bogdan Grigoresco
www.finale.tv

--- On Sun, 2/21/10, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

From: John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net>
Subject: [Avid-L2] NitrisDX HDMI output YCbCr vs RGB No change?
To: "Avid L2" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 7:04 AM

 

On hour 36 so my perception of White Balance is anything but clear.  Even so I'm in a bay new to me with a Panny High end consumer Plasma being fed from the NitrisDX via HDMI.  Comparing it to a PVM 20L5 being fed HD component I've got them reasonably close.  For the life of me I can't see a difference on the plasma when I switch the HDMI output from YCbCr to RGB.  Since the monitor goes black for a second or two when switching it's hard to compare A/B wise but I really don't see a noticeable difference on the display between the settings.  How drastic should the difference be?  The project is 59.94I if that would make any difference.  Could the monitor sense what it is being feed and adjust seemlessly.  If so why the two choices in Avid?  Are other monitors different in this aspect.  So many questions, so little sleep, too many air dates and now these are the monitors of our lives.

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Barking Trout Productions

Studio City, CA

bigfish@pacbell. net

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Re: [Avid-L2] NitrisDX HDMI output YCbCr vs RGB No change?

With or without your 3D glasses? Details John, details.

DD

John Moore wrote:
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> On hour 36 so my perception of White Balance is anything but clear.
> Even so I'm in a bay new to me with a Panny High end consumer Plasma
> being fed from the NitrisDX via HDMI. Comparing it to a PVM 20L5
> being fed HD component I've got them reasonably close. For the life
> of me I can't see a difference on the plasma when I switch the HDMI
> output from YCbCr to RGB. Since the monitor goes black for a second
> or two when switching it's hard to compare A/B wise but I really don't
> see a noticeable difference on the display between the settings. How
> drastic should the difference be? The project is 59.94I if that would
> make any difference. Could the monitor sense what it is being feed
> and adjust seemlessly. If so why the two choices in Avid? Are other
> monitors different in this aspect. So many questions, so little
> sleep, too many air dates and now these are the monitors of our lives.
>
> John Moore
>
> Barking Trout Productions
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> Studio City, CA
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> bigfish@pacbell.net <mailto:bigfish%40pacbell.net>
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[Avid-L2] NitrisDX HDMI output YCbCr vs RGB No change?

On hour 36 so my perception of White Balance is anything but clear.  Even so I'm in a bay new to me with a Panny High end consumer Plasma being fed from the NitrisDX via HDMI.  Comparing it to a PVM 20L5 being fed HD component I've got them reasonably close.  For the life of me I can't see a difference on the plasma when I switch the HDMI output from YCbCr to RGB.  Since the monitor goes black for a second or two when switching it's hard to compare A/B wise but I really don't see a noticeable difference on the display between the settings.  How drastic should the difference be?  The project is 59.94I if that would make any difference.  Could the monitor sense what it is being feed and adjust seemlessly.  If so why the two choices in Avid?  Are other monitors different in this aspect.  So many questions, so little sleep, too many air dates and now these are the monitors of our lives.

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Re: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide

your signature line gave the first good laff of the weekend! thanks!
kOz
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Tibbetts
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 14:19
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide

"Settings and You". Silly.

Ii see it's now the highest rated Avid document of all time. And it
moved up to #2 on the Avid KB's "What's Hot" list.

It ain't Shakespeare, but it's a good read.

RT
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On Feb 20, 2010, at 5:40 AM, guanacaa@aol.com wrote:

> My "Doc?" Which Doc?
> Once I know what you mean I'll start blushing, I promise.
> Shirley
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: RT <huipro@hawaii.rr.com>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Feb 19, 2010 2:37 pm
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide
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> OK, now you can blush, Shirley.
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> "Your" Doc just made it to #4 on the Avid KB's "What's Hot" list.
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> That puts you in contention for the Bronze Medal!
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> RT
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> guanacaa@aol.com wrote:
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> > Wow! I'm deeply touched. No one's ever dedicated a monograph about
> > Avid settings to me before. Thank you!
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RT <huipro@hawaii.rr.com <mailto:huipro%40hawaii.rr.com>>
> > To: Avid L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-
> L2%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2010 7:09 pm
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide
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> > You might want to put on your snuggie and curl up with this one on
> the
> > next cold night (or day at the beach).
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> > Should be required reading. Unfortunately, it's buried so deep in
> the
> > KB that only Marianna could find it.
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> > http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=267477
> > <http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?
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> > (I dedicate this to Shirley)
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[Avid-L2] Re: Is there an elegant way to locate a pan and zoom still?

Interesting. I tried a subsequence of a pan and zoom with no slug in the source import report but no info. Just tried your approach with a pan and zoom nested in a 3dwarp with no slug video underneath, the way it came from offline. Showing sources on the subsequence in it's own bin show a tape ref, odd, and a source with a name of one of the folders that some of the stills for this project are in. Going into the pan and zoom effects window asks for a 7 digit.jpg which is the actual still. A fine kettle of metadata if you ask me.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Brockington <brocking@...> wrote:
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> I tried a test -- cut a different picture as slug under an existing
> pan&zoom effect, then subsequenced it into its own bin.
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> Displaying sources in that bin shows a source item for both the new and
> old pictures.
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> So that's a little more elegant way to get the picture name, although
> unlike Pat's method, I don't see any way to get the path information,
> just the filename.
>
> Cheers,
> --Michael Brockington
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> Pat wrote:
> >
> > Well there is a quick and dirty engineering solution to this problem.
> > Create a new bin. Sub sequence the sections with the pan and zoom
> > effects inside into a new mini sequence. Save the bin.
> > Outside MC open notepad (or any text editor) and open the bin you
> > created. The path and the name of the file used in the effect(s) will
> > be listed in the middle of all the normal rubbish. It should look
> > something like "kAvxPluginAttributes  C:\Users\Pat\Pictures\F800\Bike
> > strip\IMG_5829.jpg "
> > Normally eaists to search for the .jpg or .tif or what ever extension.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay finally got a chance to try the summary source report and with
> > no slug underneath the Pan and Zoom the summary shows no imported
> > sources. To get back to my original request the pan and zoom effect
> > definately knows to ask for the still by name when it is offline to
> > the effect. How do I access that info when the still is still online
> > so I can find out the source for the pan and zoom effect. Seems like
> > the metadata is in the effect so why not let me see it? This is a
> > bug/shortcoming of the Pan and Zoom effect, one of many unfortunately.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Don't get me started. I don't know what ticks me off more. The
> > missing slug video or the slug behind the keyboard.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You are correct. It only works with actual imported stills. The
> > other way that offline editors screw you is they import a still, then
> > change their mind and link Pan and Zoom to a different still without
> > reimporting that still.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>, "kenton.vannatten"
> > <kenton.vannatten@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <<Wouldn't this only work if the still had been imported as a
> > slug? If you're stuck with a P&Z image that is just sitting on Filler,
> > then I don't think the Source Summary would show you anything. >>
> > > > >
> > > >
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Re: [Avid-L2] MacPro 2nd ethernet connection for network loop thru?

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=531937

John Moore wrote:

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>
> If I've got a MacPro Avid editing computer hooked to the ethernet
> network at work could I connect my macbookpro over ethernet to the 2nd
> ethernet connection of the macpro and get access to the network? Is
> there a special setting in preferences to enable this if it's
> possible. I'm not at the system right now so I wanted to check the
> possibility out before opting for a switch to get more ethernet
> connections in the bay.
>
> John Moore
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Anyone have TransferManager experience?

TM could work in standalone or in an interplay env as a service

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:13 AM, <bcarroll@kvcr.org> wrote:

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>
>
>
> No Interplay. Is the TransferManager a part of Interplay? That would
> explain much.
>
>
> Regards,
> Bob Carroll
>
> Producer/Director
> KVCR-DT (PBS)
> 701 S. Mt. Vernon Ave.
> San Bernardino, CA 92410
> 909-384-4334
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>, Frank Chiang
> <ppsfrank@...> wrote:
> >
> > Do you have interplay in your site ?
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide

"Settings and You". Silly.

Ii see it's now the highest rated Avid document of all time. And it
moved up to #2 on the Avid KB's "What's Hot" list.

It ain't Shakespeare, but it's a good read.

RT
Sent via iPad Nano

On Feb 20, 2010, at 5:40 AM, guanacaa@aol.com wrote:

> My "Doc?" Which Doc?
> Once I know what you mean I'll start blushing, I promise.
> Shirley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RT <huipro@hawaii.rr.com>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Feb 19, 2010 2:37 pm
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide
>
> OK, now you can blush, Shirley.
>
> "Your" Doc just made it to #4 on the Avid KB's "What's Hot" list.
>
> That puts you in contention for the Bronze Medal!
>
> RT
>
> guanacaa@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Wow! I'm deeply touched. No one's ever dedicated a monograph about
> > Avid settings to me before. Thank you!
> > Shirley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RT <huipro@hawaii.rr.com <mailto:huipro%40hawaii.rr.com>>
> > To: Avid L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-
> L2%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2010 7:09 pm
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide
> >
> > You might want to put on your snuggie and curl up with this one on
> the
> > next cold night (or day at the beach).
> >
> > Should be required reading. Unfortunately, it's buried so deep in
> the
> > KB that only Marianna could find it.
> >
> > http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=267477
> > <http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?
> DocId=267477>
> >
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> >
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> >
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[Avid-L2] Re: Anyone have TransferManager experience?

No Interplay. Is the TransferManager a part of Interplay? That would explain much.

Regards,
Bob Carroll

Producer/Director
KVCR-DT (PBS)
701 S. Mt. Vernon Ave.
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909-384-4334

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>
> Do you have interplay in your site ?

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[Avid-L2] MacPro 2nd ethernet connection for network loop thru?

If I've got a MacPro Avid editing computer hooked to the ethernet network at work could I connect my macbookpro over ethernet to the 2nd ethernet connection of the macpro and get access to the network?  Is there a special setting in preferences to enable this if it's possible.  I'm not at the system right now so I wanted to check the possibility out before opting for a switch to get more ethernet connections in the bay.

John Moore

Barking Trout Productions

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bigfish@pacbell.net

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Is there an elegant way to locate a pan and zoom still?

I tried a test -- cut a different picture as slug under an existing
pan&zoom effect, then subsequenced it into its own bin.

Displaying sources in that bin shows a source item for both the new and
old pictures.

So that's a little more elegant way to get the picture name, although
unlike Pat's method, I don't see any way to get the path information,
just the filename.

Cheers,
--Michael Brockington

Pat wrote:
>
> Well there is a quick and dirty engineering solution to this problem.
> Create a new bin. Sub sequence the sections with the pan and zoom
> effects inside into a new mini sequence. Save the bin.
> Outside MC open notepad (or any text editor) and open the bin you
> created. The path and the name of the file used in the effect(s) will
> be listed in the middle of all the normal rubbish. It should look
> something like "kAvxPluginAttributes  C:\Users\Pat\Pictures\F800\Bike
> strip\IMG_5829.jpg "
> Normally eaists to search for the .jpg or .tif or what ever extension.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
> >
> > Okay finally got a chance to try the summary source report and with
> no slug underneath the Pan and Zoom the summary shows no imported
> sources. To get back to my original request the pan and zoom effect
> definately knows to ask for the still by name when it is offline to
> the effect. How do I access that info when the still is still online
> so I can find out the source for the pan and zoom effect. Seems like
> the metadata is in the effect so why not let me see it? This is a
> bug/shortcoming of the Pan and Zoom effect, one of many unfortunately.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't get me started. I don't know what ticks me off more. The
> missing slug video or the slug behind the keyboard.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You are correct. It only works with actual imported stills. The
> other way that offline editors screw you is they import a still, then
> change their mind and link Pan and Zoom to a different still without
> reimporting that still.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>, "kenton.vannatten"
> <kenton.vannatten@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <<Wouldn't this only work if the still had been imported as a
> slug? If you're stuck with a P&Z image that is just sitting on Filler,
> then I don't think the Source Summary would show you anything. >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide

My "Doc?" Which Doc?
Once I know what you mean I'll start blushing, I promise.
Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: RT <huipro@hawaii.rr.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 19, 2010 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide

OK, now you can blush, Shirley.

"Your" Doc just made it to #4 on the Avid KB's "What's Hot" list.

That puts you in contention for the Bronze Medal!

RT

guanacaa@aol.com wrote:

>
>
> Wow! I'm deeply touched. No one's ever dedicated a monograph about
> Avid settings to me before. Thank you!
> Shirley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RT <huipro@hawaii.rr.com <mailto:huipro%40hawaii.rr.com>>
> To: Avid L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2010 7:09 pm
> Subject: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide
>
> You might want to put on your snuggie and curl up with this one on the
> next cold night (or day at the beach).
>
> Should be required reading. Unfortunately, it's buried so deep in the
> KB that only Marianna could find it.
>
> http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=267477
> <http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=267477>
>
> (I dedicate this to Shirley)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: OT - "The Ghost Writer"

I'll top that by saying that I once TRAINED five AFN folk on Media
Composer in a sound booth on an army base in Italy!
+++
With best wishes,

Roger Shufflebottom
roger@bottom-line.tv
http://www.bottom-line.tv

On 20 Feb 2010, at 13:01, Tony Breuer wrote:

Nine feet by four feet is bigger than some of the places I've had to
edit in. I once had to edit a children's show in a sound booth because
it was the on;y room available. It was awful, like being in a coffin.
Plus I had to stop when the studio needed the booth for commercial
sessions.

Oh yeah, and the worst part:it wasn't big enough to lie down. NO
EFFEN' NAP!

True story. Back in the old EMC2 days in NYC.

Tony Breuer

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@...> wrote:
>
> sometimes any edit suite can feel like a jail cell.
>
> sw
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@> wrote:
> >
> > It's a miracle that ANY movie sees the light of day.
> >
> > David Dodson
> > davidadodson@
> > 818-523-0905
> >
> > On Feb 19, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Rick <a_pmb_fan@> wrote:
> >
> > > Is it really a miracle that a movie saw the light of day?
> > >
> > > Rick Emery
> > > www.rickemery.com
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: avidlist <avidlist@>
> > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 10:33:16 AM
> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] OT - "The Ghost Writer"
> > >
> > > FOUND THIS INTERESTING:
> > >
> > > (CNN) -- You could call "The Ghost Writer" the Polanski film that
> > > almost wasn't.
> > >
> > > Under the circumstances, it's a miracle that Roman Polanski's
> > > political thriller, which stars Pierce Brosnan and Ewan McGregor,
> > > even made it to the screen.
> > >
> > > After the filmmaker was arrested in Switzerland last year --
while
> > > "The Ghost Writer" was in post production -- there was talk that
> > > another director might have to finish the feature.
> > >
> > > That didn't happen -- but Polanski did end up editing the feature
> > > from his jail cell, according to the movie's stars.
> > >
> > > "He would be in his nine-foot by four-foot cell, edit the movie
and
> > > give it to the warden. The warden would give it to his lawyer
[who
> > > would] then give it to the editor," Brosnan told CNN.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Alpha Dog Beer

In London they put in optics, as clients were pouring their own
measures, and not remembering the session, and trying not to pay!

On 20 Feb 2010, at 12:48, Rick wrote:

> Back in the linear room days management always kept a bottle of
> scotch hidden in each edit room and broke it out for the client when
> something major in the room broke. Worked like a charm. Client got
> drunk while and ADO was being fixed.
>
> Rick Emery
> www.rickemery.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mark <markraudonis@yahoo.com>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 8:48:04 PM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Alpha Dog Beer
>
> Perhaps Terry C should consider a corporate merger: Alpha Dogs Beer
> + Post. Sounds like a winner!
>
> Mark
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, "Dave Spraker" <avid@...> wrote:
> >
> > I tried this recently...bitter yet intoxicating!
> >
> > "A True Hop Bomb Brewed plenty of Columbus and Mt Hood Hops for a
> Piney hop
> > character Premium Pale, Honey and Munich Malt make this beer a
> little less
> > malty but packing plenty of hop punch."
> >
> > http://www.laughing dogbrewing. com/ldb/brews/ alpha-dog
> >
> > Dave Spraker
> > Account Executive & Avid Specialist
> > Professional Video and Tape
> > 503.810.3642 - cell
> > 800.833.4801 - toll free
> > 503.598.9142 - office
> > 503.598.9172 - fax
> > AIM: dAVID at PVT
> >
> >
> > Follow Professional Video & Tape on Facebook!
> > www.facebook. com/Professional VideoandTape
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: Is there an elegant way to locate a pan and zoom still?

I use Moving Picture plug in. It does a good job of linking to the hi res file. But I generally create a low res jpeg in photoshop with the same clip name and import that for use as the slug in the time line that I put the plug in on. This way I can match back to a facsimile of the photo and it has the same name. Plus all the low res photos are available for viewing as thumbnails in their own bin.

A little convoluted, but fail safe, especially in a doc with a couple of hundred photos.

Tony

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> Wow that appeals to my inner geekdom and programmer wanna be side. When I have time I'll try that. So far the subsequence to laptop and have the effect ask for the still is the least non elegant solution. And I'm not gonna do no more sessions this weekend, except for the ones on Saturday and Sunday day and night. Man even my dog is asking for ID when I come home. Hope Rubin understands I'm doing it all for his treats. ;-)
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Pat" <pat@> wrote:
> >
> > Well there is a quick and dirty engineering solution to this problem.
> > Create a new bin. Sub sequence the sections with the pan and zoom effects inside into a new mini sequence. Save the bin.
> > Outside MC open notepad (or any text editor) and open the bin you created. The path and the name of the file used in the effect(s) will be listed in the middle of all the normal rubbish. It should look something like "kAvxPluginAttributes  C:\Users\Pat\Pictures\F800\Bike strip\IMG_5829.jpg "
> > Normally eaists to search for the .jpg or .tif or what ever extension.
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay finally got a chance to try the summary source report and with no slug underneath the Pan and Zoom the summary shows no imported sources. To get back to my original request the pan and zoom effect definately knows to ask for the still by name when it is offline to the effect. How do I access that info when the still is still online so I can find out the source for the pan and zoom effect. Seems like the metadata is in the effect so why not let me see it? This is a bug/shortcoming of the Pan and Zoom effect, one of many unfortunately.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Don't get me started. I don't know what ticks me off more. The missing slug video or the slug behind the keyboard.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You are correct. It only works with actual imported stills. The other way that offline editors screw you is they import a still, then change their mind and link Pan and Zoom to a different still without reimporting that still.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "kenton.vannatten" <kenton.vannatten@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <<Wouldn't this only work if the still had been imported as a slug? If you're stuck with a P&Z image that is just sitting on Filler, then I don't think the Source Summary would show you anything. >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: OT - "The Ghost Writer"

Nine feet by four feet is bigger than some of the places I've had to edit in. I once had to edit a children's show in a sound booth because it was the on;y room available. It was awful, like being in a coffin. Plus I had to stop when the studio needed the booth for commercial sessions.

Oh yeah, and the worst part:it wasn't big enough to lie down. NO EFFEN' NAP!

True story. Back in the old EMC2 days in NYC.

Tony Breuer

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@...> wrote:
>
> sometimes any edit suite can feel like a jail cell.
>
> sw
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@> wrote:
> >
> > It's a miracle that ANY movie sees the light of day.
> >
> > David Dodson
> > davidadodson@
> > 818-523-0905
> >
> > On Feb 19, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Rick <a_pmb_fan@> wrote:
> >
> > > Is it really a miracle that a movie saw the light of day?
> > >
> > > Rick Emery
> > > www.rickemery.com
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: avidlist <avidlist@>
> > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 10:33:16 AM
> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] OT - "The Ghost Writer"
> > >
> > > FOUND THIS INTERESTING:
> > >
> > > (CNN) -- You could call "The Ghost Writer" the Polanski film that
> > > almost wasn't.
> > >
> > > Under the circumstances, it's a miracle that Roman Polanski's
> > > political thriller, which stars Pierce Brosnan and Ewan McGregor,
> > > even made it to the screen.
> > >
> > > After the filmmaker was arrested in Switzerland last year -- while
> > > "The Ghost Writer" was in post production -- there was talk that
> > > another director might have to finish the feature.
> > >
> > > That didn't happen -- but Polanski did end up editing the feature
> > > from his jail cell, according to the movie's stars.
> > >
> > > "He would be in his nine-foot by four-foot cell, edit the movie and
> > > give it to the warden. The warden would give it to his lawyer [who
> > > would] then give it to the editor," Brosnan told CNN.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Alpha Dog Beer

Back in the linear room days management always kept a bottle of scotch hidden in each edit room and broke it out for the client when something major in the room broke. Worked like a charm. Client got drunk while and ADO was being fixed.

Rick Emery
www.rickemery.com

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Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Alpha Dog Beer

Perhaps Terry C should consider a corporate merger: Alpha Dogs Beer + Post. Sounds like a winner!

Mark

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, "Dave Spraker" <avid@...> wrote:
>
> I tried this recently...bitter yet intoxicating!
>
> "A True Hop Bomb Brewed plenty of Columbus and Mt Hood Hops for a Piney hop
> character Premium Pale, Honey and Munich Malt make this beer a little less
> malty but packing plenty of hop punch."
>
> http://www.laughing dogbrewing. com/ldb/brews/ alpha-dog
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] RE: Needed: Symphony Trainer

Why thank you Terry. Terry would be the other good suggestion, if he'd
do it.

I have done personal training on Symphony color correction for Turner
Networks in Atlanta (several times a year actually) and at Creative
Bubble in New York. I can provide references if you want.

I've been using Symphony's color correction since it was in beta...
what, over a decade ago? - and I have my own Symphony, so I use it
often, though I have to admit, that I haven't been using it as much as
Color lately. I miss the Color secondaries too much when I work in
Symphony.

(Five years ago - or maybe more - Greg Staten promised me at NAB that
the new color correction capabilities would blow me away in 18 months.
When he told me that I said "Wow. You're only going to be about two
years too late. Now they're SEVEN years too late. My how technology
time flies.

Have I talked myself out of a job yet?)

Anyway, I can usually train between 1 and 6 editors at a time in one
day of training. The fewer trainees the better for the editors.

And I'll even show you how Terry Curren uses curves!

On Feb 19, 2010, at 10:55 PM, tcurren wrote:

> Dave writes:
>
> <<I have a customer who's looking for some on-site training on
> Symphony color
> correction to take some of their staff editors to the next level. Any
> recommendations?>>
>
> Can't go wrong with Steve Hullfish.
>
> --
> Terence Curren
> Burbank, CA
> www.alphadogs.tv
> www.digitalservicestation.com
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Anyone have TransferManager experience?

Do you have interplay in your site ?

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:11 AM, <bcarroll@kvcr.org> wrote:

>
>
> Hello Avid-L2 Listers!
>
> I've gotten great advice from the group in the past so here goes again.
>
> We have a 6TB LANShare/Unity with four Media Composer systems and a
> FlipFactory to move edited material to our Omneon air server. We have yet to
> figure out how to move material back to the LANShare from the Omneon and now
> we are considering the purchase of a Grass Valley switcher with a Summit K2
> server for our studio. Moving assets from the Grass Valley server to the
> Avid systems for editing or to the Omneon server for air is our current
> challenge.
>
> Does anyone here have any experiences with this sort of workflow and could
> you offer some advice on how we might proceed while avoiding the larger pot
> holes? As far as I can tell, the TransferManager is a mythological beast
> that has plugins for the FlipFactory and the Grass Valley Summit K2 server
> and will make life peachy-keen for all of us in TV land. Unfortunately I
> can't nail down any specifics on how this happens or what it might cost. I
> was told earlier today that an Avid representative might be coming for a
> visit next week to explain the benefits of the TransferManager but before
> then I'd like to have a better grasp on the situation so I can ask
> semi-intelligent questions.
>
> Thoughts? Thanks in advance for any insight you can give.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Carroll
>
> Producer/Director
> KVCR-DT (PBS)
> 701 S. Mt. Vernon Ave.
> San Bernardino, CA 92410
> 909-384-4334
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[Avid-L2] Re: OT: Alpha Dog Beer

MArk Raudonis writes:

<<Perhaps Terry C should consider a corporate merger: Alpha Dogs Beer + Post. Sounds like a winner!>>

Sounds like an Editors' Lounge to me....

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[Avid-L2] RE: Needed: Symphony Trainer

Dave writes:

<<I have a customer who's looking for some on-site training on
Symphony color
correction to take some of their staff editors to the next level. Any
recommendations?>>

Can't go wrong with Steve Hullfish.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Needed: Symphony Trainer

Call Hullfish. He gets around. Even wrote book or two.

Tim McLaughlin
Final Cut and Avid Editor

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Dave Spraker <avid@spraker.tv> wrote:

>
>
> I have a customer who's looking for some on-site training on Symphony color
> correction to take some of their staff editors to the next level. Any
> recommendations?
>
> Dave Spraker
> Account Executive & Avid Specialist
> Professional Video and Tape
> 503.810.3642 - cell
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[Avid-L2] Re: OT: Alpha Dog Beer

Perhaps Terry C should consider a corporate merger: Alpha Dogs Beer + Post. Sounds like a winner!

Mark

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Spraker" <avid@...> wrote:
>
> I tried this recently...bitter yet intoxicating!
>
> "A True Hop Bomb Brewed plenty of Columbus and Mt Hood Hops for a Piney hop
> character Premium Pale, Honey and Munich Malt make this beer a little less
> malty but packing plenty of hop punch."
>
> http://www.laughingdogbrewing.com/ldb/brews/alpha-dog
>
> Dave Spraker
> Account Executive & Avid Specialist
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[Avid-L2] Needed: Symphony Trainer

I have a customer who's looking for some on-site training on Symphony color
correction to take some of their staff editors to the next level. Any
recommendations?

Dave Spraker
Account Executive & Avid Specialist
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[Avid-L2] OT: Alpha Dog Beer

I tried this recently...bitter yet intoxicating!

"A True Hop Bomb Brewed plenty of Columbus and Mt Hood Hops for a Piney hop
character Premium Pale, Honey and Munich Malt make this beer a little less
malty but packing plenty of hop punch."

http://www.laughingdogbrewing.com/ldb/brews/alpha-dog

Dave Spraker
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Re: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide

OK, now you can blush, Shirley.

"Your" Doc just made it to #4 on the Avid KB's "What's Hot" list.

That puts you in contention for the Bronze Medal!

RT

guanacaa@aol.com wrote:

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>
> Wow! I'm deeply touched. No one's ever dedicated a monograph about
> Avid settings to me before. Thank you!
> Shirley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RT <huipro@hawaii.rr.com <mailto:huipro%40hawaii.rr.com>>
> To: Avid L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2010 7:09 pm
> Subject: [Avid-L2] AVID SETTINGS AND YOU- a personal guide
>
> You might want to put on your snuggie and curl up with this one on the
> next cold night (or day at the beach).
>
> Should be required reading. Unfortunately, it's buried so deep in the
> KB that only Marianna could find it.
>
> http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=267477
> <http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=267477>
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> (I dedicate this to Shirley)
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[Avid-L2] Re: Is there an elegant way to locate a pan and zoom still?

Wow that appeals to my inner geekdom and programmer wanna be side. When I have time I'll try that. So far the subsequence to laptop and have the effect ask for the still is the least non elegant solution. And I'm not gonna do no more sessions this weekend, except for the ones on Saturday and Sunday day and night. Man even my dog is asking for ID when I come home. Hope Rubin understands I'm doing it all for his treats. ;-)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Pat" <pat@...> wrote:
>
> Well there is a quick and dirty engineering solution to this problem.
> Create a new bin. Sub sequence the sections with the pan and zoom effects inside into a new mini sequence. Save the bin.
> Outside MC open notepad (or any text editor) and open the bin you created. The path and the name of the file used in the effect(s) will be listed in the middle of all the normal rubbish. It should look something like "kAvxPluginAttributes  C:\Users\Pat\Pictures\F800\Bike strip\IMG_5829.jpg "
> Normally eaists to search for the .jpg or .tif or what ever extension.
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> >
> > Okay finally got a chance to try the summary source report and with no slug underneath the Pan and Zoom the summary shows no imported sources. To get back to my original request the pan and zoom effect definately knows to ask for the still by name when it is offline to the effect. How do I access that info when the still is still online so I can find out the source for the pan and zoom effect. Seems like the metadata is in the effect so why not let me see it? This is a bug/shortcoming of the Pan and Zoom effect, one of many unfortunately.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't get me started. I don't know what ticks me off more. The missing slug video or the slug behind the keyboard.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You are correct. It only works with actual imported stills. The other way that offline editors screw you is they import a still, then change their mind and link Pan and Zoom to a different still without reimporting that still.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "kenton.vannatten" <kenton.vannatten@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <<Wouldn't this only work if the still had been imported as a slug? If you're stuck with a P&Z image that is just sitting on Filler, then I don't think the Source Summary would show you anything. >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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