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Friday, March 10, 2023

Re: [Avid-L2] Export to XDCAM, all Avid tracks to Ch1 and Ch2?

Direct out routing only works on the baseband output - file 'direct out' exports are always track for track.

We do immersive with a mix of timeline tracks routed to 16 channels but, to deliver a file, have to do a multi-mixdown and export the resulting sequence as direct out. (Oftentimes it's quicker to play out to EVS, plus we get to QC the segment.)

There is a FR for exports 'as monitored' that I heard was on the Avid radar....
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Thursday, March 9, 2023

Re: [Avid-L2] Export to XDCAM, all Avid tracks to Ch1 and Ch2?

OK, thank you -- this was the hint I was hoping for! I did not
realize you used the Audio Tool to map channels for Direct Out.
This sounds promising. I won't get back to the edit bay until
next week, but will check that out and report back.

Great news.

Tim Selander



On 2023.03.08 13:57, pale.edit@gmail.com wrote:
> Sorry, I don't have an XDCam machine to test with, but are you
> saying if you set the Audio Tool to Direct Out, then map
> everything to Ch 1&2 (not the default, which would put tracks 3/4
> on channels 3/4), the deck ignores this and records to 3/4 on
> disk anyway?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 8:11 PM Tim Selander
> <selander@tkf.att.ne.jp <mailto:selander@tkf.att.ne.jp>> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Yes, we can do that and it works. The edit is no problem
> exporting to XDCam.
>
> The main thing for me is a time-crunch. We are a very small
> outfit, and our main sponsor, without whom we'd be sunk,
> sometimes gives us a new ad the morning of the day we have to
> deliver and expects it to be put in. With this guy we have to do
> what he says, or else. That type. Handling him is Management's
> problem. Mine is that 3 or 4 times a year we get backed into a
> corner where every minute counts, we're making 13 exports and
> barely making delivery on time.
>
> So if indeed, the audio 'routing' won't work, I'll have to do as
> you suggest, and just race that clock!
>
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
>
>
> On 2023.03.08 4:52, John Moore wrote:
> > As a brute force approach is there any reason you can't
> just make
> > the last 20 seconds a separate audio mixdown?  I know you
> would
> > like to have the output mult tracks 3 & 4 with 1&2 on
> export but
> > why not do a mixdown of the last 20 seconds for each stations
> > need and then cut that into channel 1&2 track before
> export?  Is
> > there a problem exporting to XDCam if the audio track has
> edits
> > in it?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Tuesday, March 7, 2023

Re: [Avid-L2] Export to XDCAM, all Avid tracks to Ch1 and Ch2?

Sorry, I don't have an XDCam machine to test with, but are you saying if you set the Audio Tool to Direct Out, then map everything to Ch 1&2 (not the default, which would put tracks 3/4 on channels 3/4), the deck ignores this and records to 3/4 on disk anyway?



On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 8:11 PM Tim Selander <selander@tkf.att.ne.jp> wrote:
Hi John,

Yes, we can do that and it works. The edit is no problem
exporting to XDCam.

The main thing for me is a time-crunch. We are a very small
outfit, and our main sponsor, without whom we'd be sunk,
sometimes gives us a new ad the morning of the day we have to
deliver and expects it to be put in. With this guy we have to do
what he says, or else. That type. Handling him is Management's
problem. Mine is that 3 or 4 times a year we get backed into a
corner where every minute counts, we're making 13 exports and
barely making delivery on time.

So if indeed, the audio 'routing' won't work, I'll have to do as
you suggest, and just race that clock!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan


On 2023.03.08 4:52, John Moore wrote:
> As a brute force approach is there any reason you can't just make
> the last 20 seconds a separate audio mixdown?  I know you would
> like to have the output mult tracks 3 & 4 with 1&2 on export but
> why not do a mixdown of the last 20 seconds for each stations
> need and then cut that into channel 1&2 track before export?  Is
> there a problem exporting to XDCam if the audio track has edits
> in it?
>






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Re: [Avid-L2] Export to XDCAM, all Avid tracks to Ch1 and Ch2?

Hi John,

Yes, we can do that and it works. The edit is no problem
exporting to XDCam.

The main thing for me is a time-crunch. We are a very small
outfit, and our main sponsor, without whom we'd be sunk,
sometimes gives us a new ad the morning of the day we have to
deliver and expects it to be put in. With this guy we have to do
what he says, or else. That type. Handling him is Management's
problem. Mine is that 3 or 4 times a year we get backed into a
corner where every minute counts, we're making 13 exports and
barely making delivery on time.

So if indeed, the audio 'routing' won't work, I'll have to do as
you suggest, and just race that clock!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan


On 2023.03.08 4:52, John Moore wrote:
> As a brute force approach is there any reason you can't just make
> the last 20 seconds a separate audio mixdown?  I know you would
> like to have the output mult tracks 3 & 4 with 1&2 on export but
> why not do a mixdown of the last 20 seconds for each stations
> need and then cut that into channel 1&2 track before export?  Is
> there a problem exporting to XDCam if the audio track has edits
> in it?
>



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Re: [Avid-L2] Export to XDCAM, all Avid tracks to Ch1 and Ch2?

As a brute force approach is there any reason you can't just make the last 20 seconds a separate audio mixdown?  I know you would like to have the output mult tracks 3 & 4 with 1&2 on export but why not do a mixdown of the last 20 seconds for each stations need and then cut that into channel 1&2 track before export?  Is there a problem exporting to XDCam if the audio track has edits in it?
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Re: [Avid-L2] Export to XDCAM, all Avid tracks to Ch1 and Ch2?

Hi Jo,

Thanks for emailing. But I see that I didn't explain well enough.
We have a 30 minute program Master, all audio mixed down to A1/A2
for export to 13 discs for 13 stations.

But now we have to drop in last-minute 20 second audio
announcements on A3/A4, where there is only background music on
A1/A2. Unique announcement for each station.

Without doing 13 audio mixdowns again, I need to export A1-A4
onto only A1/A2 of the disc. Is that possible?

All the settings I've tried so far leave me with audio on Ch1, 2,
3 and 4 of the disc, but the stations require all audio to be
limited to Ch1 & Ch2.

Tim



On 2023.03.07 16:57, Jo's Mailinglists wrote:
> Tim,
>
>
> Create a sequence with 8 audio tracks, place audio on A1 / A2 and
> set Audio Project  / Output to Direct Out. Export to XDCAM and
> you should be fine.
>
>
>
> Best
>
> Jo
>
> Jochen "Jo" Hermann
> filter Media Postproduction
> Salzburg, Austria
>
>> On 7. Mar 2023, at 08:24, Tim Selander <selander@tkf.att.ne.jp
>> <mailto:selander@tkf.att.ne.jp>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear brain-trust,
>>
>> Up until now, we deliver on XDCAM, and the stations want all
>> audio on Ch1(L) and Ch2(R). We mix down the final audio to one
>> stereo track in Avid and the export works fine.
>>
>> Now we need to export two stereo audio tracks from Avid, but
>> 'rout' them to only Ch1 and Ch2 on the XDCAM disk. But we're
>> ending up with 4 tracks of audio on the disk. Is there any way
>> to get all of Avid's (L) audio and (R) to just Ch1 & 2 on the disk?
>>
>> Hope I'm explaining it well -- any help appreciated!
>>
>> Tim Selander
>> Tokyo, Japan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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Monday, March 6, 2023

Re: [Avid-L2] Export to XDCAM, all Avid tracks to Ch1 and Ch2?

Tim,


Create a sequence with 8 audio tracks, place audio on A1 / A2 and set Audio Project  / Output to Direct Out. Export to XDCAM and you should be fine.



Best

Jo

Jochen "Jo" Hermann
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Salzburg, Austria

On 7. Mar 2023, at 08:24, Tim Selander <selander@tkf.att.ne.jp> wrote:

Dear brain-trust,

Up until now, we deliver on XDCAM, and the stations want all audio on Ch1(L) and Ch2(R). We mix down the final audio to one stereo track in Avid and the export works fine.

Now we need to export two stereo audio tracks from Avid, but 'rout' them to only Ch1 and Ch2 on the XDCAM disk. But we're ending up with 4 tracks of audio on the disk. Is there any way to get all of Avid's (L) audio and (R) to just Ch1 & 2 on the disk?

Hope I'm explaining it well -- any help appreciated!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan






[Avid-L2] Export to XDCAM, all Avid tracks to Ch1 and Ch2?

Dear brain-trust,

Up until now, we deliver on XDCAM, and the stations want all audio on
Ch1(L) and Ch2(R). We mix down the final audio to one stereo track in
Avid and the export works fine.

Now we need to export two stereo audio tracks from Avid, but 'rout' them
to only Ch1 and Ch2 on the XDCAM disk. But we're ending up with 4 tracks
of audio on the disk. Is there any way to get all of Avid's (L) audio
and (R) to just Ch1 & 2 on the disk?

Hope I'm explaining it well -- any help appreciated!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan


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Re: [Avid-L2] Tricaster users?

I have a VMC1. 
It's pretty much the same thing. 
I have streamed to YouTube. 
I have not exported to YT. 
I will try tomorrow and get back to you 

George 




On Monday, March 6, 2023, 1:22 PM, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Any Tricaster users?

I'm forced to work with one (as a director, not a tech!), but the output levels (to YouTube) are ridiculous low
The owner has no clue, neither have I, as it's not mine and I don't have access to it…

Thx,

Bouke / edit 'B

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Re: [Avid-L2] Tricaster users?

I work with the TC1 TriCaster with the current software. (Not an expert though.) The Audio Output levels specifically for livestreaming are found by clicking the Settings symbol in the Program monitor. In the Output tab of the Output Configuration menu you can adjust audio levels either manually with a "dial", or click AGC.

If you're looking to adjust video levels, I'm not aware of an option to control the video levels of the livestream output specifically.  Using Settings in the Preview monitor you can adjust the overall video levels with proc amp controls, but they will affect all video outputs and recording.

-TJ

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Any Tricaster users?

I'm forced to work with one (as a director, not a tech!), but the output levels (to YouTube) are ridiculous low
The owner has no clue, neither have I, as it's not mine and I don't have access to it…

Thx,

Bouke / edit 'B

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Re: [Avid-L2] Tricaster users?

The TC1 has an internal audio mixer with a lot of controls. You should be able to adjust the output gain to the stream.

frank felker

On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 2:22 PM bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:
Any Tricaster users?

I'm forced to work with one (as a director, not a tech!), but the output levels (to YouTube) are ridiculous low
The owner has no clue, neither have I, as it's not mine and I don't have access to it…

Thx,

Bouke / edit 'B

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[Avid-L2] Tricaster users?

Any Tricaster users?

I'm forced to work with one (as a director, not a tech!), but the output levels (to YouTube) are ridiculous low
The owner has no clue, neither have I, as it's not mine and I don't have access to it…

Thx,

Bouke / edit 'B

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Sunday, March 5, 2023

Re: [Avid-L2] Local media drive folder name vs share storage media drive folder name

I have mimiq which does this for my QNAP storage volumes but does not do it for the local drives on my macpro.  I think it sees a networked storage device as bin lockable and Avid Media Sharing but not the local drives.  Perhaps there is a configuration setting that could be tweaked but I've never had the need at home.  Bob Zelin can fill you in on the details of how customizable it might be with local storage volumes.  Here's the product description and I see that Hedge has purchased Mimiq.

https://docs.hedge.video/mimiq
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Re: [Avid-L2] Local media drive folder name vs share storage media drive folder name

This has been answered by Steve Hullfish, as 'no'.  Oh well.  Sadness for me.

Jay


On Mar 5, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Jay Mahavier via groups.io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Traditionally in Media Composer if you are working with a local MXF media drive your new media goes into a numbered media folder

Avid MediaFiles/MXF/1
Avid MediaFiles/MXF/2
etc.

If you are ini a shared storage setup then the numbered folders are prefixed with a system name.

Avid MediaFiles/MXF/Avid01.1
Avid MediaFiles/MXF/Avid01.2
etc.

I know I can manually rename my local numbered folders to be prefixed with the system name and it will still rebuild the msm flies.  Which is dandy.

BUT…. Is there a way to have Media Composer default to making the media folders prefixed with the system name on a local drive?  Hopefully something that would be one-and-done as opposed to having to recheck or run in Console every time I start up Media Composer?  



Thank you,
Jay


[Avid-L2] Local media drive folder name vs share storage media drive folder name

Traditionally in Media Composer if you are working with a local MXF media drive your new media goes into a numbered media folder

Avid MediaFiles/MXF/1
Avid MediaFiles/MXF/2
etc.

If you are ini a shared storage setup then the numbered folders are prefixed with a system name.

Avid MediaFiles/MXF/Avid01.1
Avid MediaFiles/MXF/Avid01.2
etc.

I know I can manually rename my local numbered folders to be prefixed with the system name and it will still rebuild the msm flies.  Which is dandy.

BUT…. Is there a way to have Media Composer default to making the media folders prefixed with the system name on a local drive?  Hopefully something that would be one-and-done as opposed to having to recheck or run in Console every time I start up Media Composer?  



Thank you,
Jay