Saturday, August 13, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: SmartSound Alternative

 

And as a percussionist, not a drummer as I was taught at band camp, I hope you edit on the flam a diddle or a trusty ratamacue. Oh the things I've forgotten over time. Time to practice my para diddle producer slap. RLRR, LRLL. Always gets their attention.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "blafarm" <blafarm@...> wrote:
>
> I'm a percussionist and have been for many decades -- so I'm quite comfortable with determining musical time signatures and logical edit points.
>
> And, yes, the show durations are determined by the content -- and they simply must end -- when the content ends.
>
> More importantly, a good portion of this producer's work would be best characterized as high-volume, commodity-based work -- that has insanely compressed postproduction schedules -- and the media has a somewhat limited shelf life.
>
> So, with all of that -- and his complete willingness to accept a somewhat automated cut down -- I typically fight my natural obsession for perfection -- and allow the compromise.
>
> Video Helper's music library looks interesting. I'll dig a little deeper.
>
> Thanks everyone.
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Johnson" <ijohnson2@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I've never really had a track I couldn't edit. I always find out how many
> > frames long a measure is, and if I make a cut at a multiple of that duration
> > from a down beat, it will sound good, usually the first time. You can get
> > by with cutting on the half measure, and half that again if you are
> > desperate and can cover with a sound effect. If the track has a definite
> > ending, I can usually find a way to cut it in to finish the track within a
> > half second or so of where I need it.
> >
> >
> >
> > A conforming duration like :30 :60, etc doesn't really make editing music
> > any easier unless you are using the supplied cutdowns. I never do because
> > they never seem to change where I need them to change. Are the show
> > durations only determined by the length of the content? Find out how long a
> > musical phrase is in the track (usually 4 or 8 measures) and shoot for a
> > duration that is an even multiple of that amount. Usually you can get it to
> > within a second or so of where the show will naturally end, and can adjust a
> > few cuts to get the video to line up with the music.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > blafarm
> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:34 PM
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: SmartSound Alternative
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Philip and Oliver.
> >
> > I had a feeling there was not much else like it.
> >
> > We've scoured their library -- and tapped-out all relevant tracks.
> >
> > And, as his show durations constantly change -- and are at odd
> > non-conforming values -- editing is rarely productive.
> >
> > Guess it's time to lower the bar once again -- and include the next lower
> > tier of SmartSound tracks -- that aren't really appropriate for his work --
> > but which will at least add some variety.
> >
> > Thanks again to you both.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > blafarm wrote:
> > > > However, their music selection is a bit limited for his application.
> > >
> > > Have you looked at purchasing more music scores from their library?
> > >
> > > Adobe had similar features within Soundbooth, but that's gone with the
> > release of CS5.5. However, you might still find some copy floating around
> > along with matching scores. Their selection was very limited, but at least
> > it might add a few new sounds.
> > >
> > > I have SmartSound, but more often than not go with music libraries and
> > edit the tracks to length. I use this one (MyMusicSource.com) a lot, along
> > with Killer tracks.
> > >
> > > - Oliver
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Bump clip keyboard Short Cut?

 

I'm with Dan. That'd be my suggestion. Basically just drag the thing where you want it to go, and shift-command makes sure that it doesn't move forward or backward in time.

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On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Dan McCabe wrote:

> not sure if this is what you are looking for but if you select
> the clip with the red segment arrow on, then shift + command
> allows you to move it up or down while keeping its location in
> the sequence.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Bump clip keyboard Short Cut?

 

not sure if this is what you are looking for but if you select
the clip with the red segment arrow on, then shift + command
allows you to move it up or down while keeping its location in
the sequence.

D.

On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 22:43 -0400, "Red Truck"
<redtruckproductions@rogers.com> wrote:

Hello Saturday night Aviders.
Curious.
Is there an Avid keyboard command to move a clip up or down a
track from V1- V2 similar to Select, Option/ Up/Down Cursors in
FCP?
Robert Alsop @
Red Truck
Toronto, Canada
Video to Go!
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Re: [Avid-L2] Bump clip keyboard Short Cut?

 


Not that I know of, though of course you can use the segment arrows. I think the only thing the FCP method gets you is a little less dragging, since you still have to click on the dang thing to select it.

I'll assume you're familiar with the Avid segment arrows, the distinction between red and yellow, and the various modifier keys that affect how they work.

Best,
Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Red Truck <redtruckproductions@rogers.com>
To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2011 7:43 pm
Subject: [Avid-L2] Bump clip keyboard Short Cut?

Hello Saturday night Aviders.
Curious.
Is there an Avid keyboard command to move a clip up or down a track from V1- V2
similar to Select, Option/ Up/Down Cursors in FCP?

Robert Alsop @
Red Truck
Toronto, Canada
Video to Go!

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Re: [Avid-L2] Bump clip keyboard Short Cut?

 

Sunday morning answer:
(well, i still need to go to bed, don't think i'll make Church today.)

Not that i know of, but it can be done with a series of commands.
Go to beginning of clip, mark clip, match frame, patch, insert, patch, lift.
(the second patch/delete is to defeat Avids stupidity to remove mark points
after deleting a clip)

Too much work for my taste, i grab the mouse and poke around in Avids
Kingdom of Keyboard Shortcuts.

But i only need to to this kind of stuff with effects work, and then i
already have the mouse in my hand.
For normal work i have dialogue and alike on V1, b-roll / cutaways on V2,
lower thirds and alike on V4 (leaving V3 for whatever)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Red Truck" <redtruckproductions@rogers.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:43 AM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Bump clip keyboard Short Cut?

> Hello Saturday night Aviders.
> Curious.
> Is there an Avid keyboard command to move a clip up or down a track from
> V1- V2 similar to Select, Option/ Up/Down Cursors in FCP?
>
> Robert Alsop @
> Red Truck
> Toronto, Canada
> Video to Go!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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[Avid-L2] Bump clip keyboard Short Cut?

 

Hello Saturday night Aviders.
Curious.
Is there an Avid keyboard command to move a clip up or down a track from V1- V2 similar to Select, Option/ Up/Down Cursors in FCP?

Robert Alsop @
Red Truck
Toronto, Canada
Video to Go!

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: SmartSound Alternative

 

The randomness if the auto-fit music is exactly what I love about SmartSound/SonicFire Pro. I always manually edit music, usually pretty heavily since there's more magic in there than mist producers (and editors) realize. I usually make a standard 3min version of a piece in Sonicfire Pro to start with, and edit that up.

But here's the really cool thing. If I'm not getting a key change or open or close that's working for me, I'll go back into SonicFir Pro and change the duration by just a few seconds. And it will resolve the change by generating acdifferent key change, open or close.

I don't give a wild spit about autotiming music, will never let it happen when I'm on the edit. But for generating endless variations to put in my toybox while manually cutting music, I've found nothing better.

But yeah, though I appreciate a great amount of their compositions, it would be nice to have other companies using the same technology. Sometimes patents are more restrictive than the patent system us designed to allow.

So right now it's Saturaay night and I'm sitting in a drive-in movie between features. Planet of the Apes was a good reboot-reboot. I'll let you know about Indiana Jones vs. James Bond.

--
Jeff Cook
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On Aug 13, 2011, at 9:05 PM, "Ian Johnson" <ijohnson2@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>
> I've never really had a track I couldn't edit. I always find out how many
> frames long a measure is, and if I make a cut at a multiple of that duration
> from a down beat, it will sound good, usually the first time. You can get
> by with cutting on the half measure, and half that again if you are
> desperate and can cover with a sound effect. If the track has a definite
> ending, I can usually find a way to cut it in to finish the track within a
> half second or so of where I need it.
>
>
>
> A conforming duration like :30 :60, etc doesn't really make editing music
> any easier unless you are using the supplied cutdowns. I never do because
> they never seem to change where I need them to change. Are the show
> durations only determined by the length of the content? Find out how long a
> musical phrase is in the track (usually 4 or 8 measures) and shoot for a
> duration that is an even multiple of that amount. Usually you can get it to
> within a second or so of where the show will naturally end, and can adjust a
> few cuts to get the video to line up with the music.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> blafarm
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:34 PM
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: SmartSound Alternative
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Philip and Oliver.
>
> I had a feeling there was not much else like it.
>
> We've scoured their library -- and tapped-out all relevant tracks.
>
> And, as his show durations constantly change -- and are at odd
> non-conforming values -- editing is rarely productive.
>
> Guess it's time to lower the bar once again -- and include the next lower
> tier of SmartSound tracks -- that aren't really appropriate for his work --
> but which will at least add some variety.
>
> Thanks again to you both.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
>>
>>> blafarm wrote:
>>> However, their music selection is a bit limited for his application.
>>
>> Have you looked at purchasing more music scores from their library?
>>
>> Adobe had similar features within Soundbooth, but that's gone with the
> release of CS5.5. However, you might still find some copy floating around
> along with matching scores. Their selection was very limited, but at least
> it might add a few new sounds.
>>
>> I have SmartSound, but more often than not go with music libraries and
> edit the tracks to length. I use this one (MyMusicSource.com) a lot, along
> with Killer tracks.
>>
>> - Oliver
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: SmartSound Alternative

 

I'm a percussionist and have been for many decades -- so I'm quite comfortable with determining musical time signatures and logical edit points.

And, yes, the show durations are determined by the content -- and they simply must end -- when the content ends.

More importantly, a good portion of this producer's work would be best characterized as high-volume, commodity-based work -- that has insanely compressed postproduction schedules -- and the media has a somewhat limited shelf life.

So, with all of that -- and his complete willingness to accept a somewhat automated cut down -- I typically fight my natural obsession for perfection -- and allow the compromise.

Video Helper's music library looks interesting. I'll dig a little deeper.

Thanks everyone.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Johnson" <ijohnson2@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I've never really had a track I couldn't edit. I always find out how many
> frames long a measure is, and if I make a cut at a multiple of that duration
> from a down beat, it will sound good, usually the first time. You can get
> by with cutting on the half measure, and half that again if you are
> desperate and can cover with a sound effect. If the track has a definite
> ending, I can usually find a way to cut it in to finish the track within a
> half second or so of where I need it.
>
>
>
> A conforming duration like :30 :60, etc doesn't really make editing music
> any easier unless you are using the supplied cutdowns. I never do because
> they never seem to change where I need them to change. Are the show
> durations only determined by the length of the content? Find out how long a
> musical phrase is in the track (usually 4 or 8 measures) and shoot for a
> duration that is an even multiple of that amount. Usually you can get it to
> within a second or so of where the show will naturally end, and can adjust a
> few cuts to get the video to line up with the music.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> blafarm
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:34 PM
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: SmartSound Alternative
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Philip and Oliver.
>
> I had a feeling there was not much else like it.
>
> We've scoured their library -- and tapped-out all relevant tracks.
>
> And, as his show durations constantly change -- and are at odd
> non-conforming values -- editing is rarely productive.
>
> Guess it's time to lower the bar once again -- and include the next lower
> tier of SmartSound tracks -- that aren't really appropriate for his work --
> but which will at least add some variety.
>
> Thanks again to you both.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@> wrote:
> >
> > > blafarm wrote:
> > > However, their music selection is a bit limited for his application.
> >
> > Have you looked at purchasing more music scores from their library?
> >
> > Adobe had similar features within Soundbooth, but that's gone with the
> release of CS5.5. However, you might still find some copy floating around
> along with matching scores. Their selection was very limited, but at least
> it might add a few new sounds.
> >
> > I have SmartSound, but more often than not go with music libraries and
> edit the tracks to length. I use this one (MyMusicSource.com) a lot, along
> with Killer tracks.
> >
> > - Oliver
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: SmartSound Alternative

 



I've never really had a track I couldn't edit. I always find out how many
frames long a measure is, and if I make a cut at a multiple of that duration
from a down beat, it will sound good, usually the first time. You can get
by with cutting on the half measure, and half that again if you are
desperate and can cover with a sound effect. If the track has a definite
ending, I can usually find a way to cut it in to finish the track within a
half second or so of where I need it.

A conforming duration like :30 :60, etc doesn't really make editing music
any easier unless you are using the supplied cutdowns. I never do because
they never seem to change where I need them to change. Are the show
durations only determined by the length of the content? Find out how long a
musical phrase is in the track (usually 4 or 8 measures) and shoot for a
duration that is an even multiple of that amount. Usually you can get it to
within a second or so of where the show will naturally end, and can adjust a
few cuts to get the video to line up with the music.

Ian

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
blafarm
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:34 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: SmartSound Alternative

Thanks Philip and Oliver.

I had a feeling there was not much else like it.

We've scoured their library -- and tapped-out all relevant tracks.

And, as his show durations constantly change -- and are at odd
non-conforming values -- editing is rarely productive.

Guess it's time to lower the bar once again -- and include the next lower
tier of SmartSound tracks -- that aren't really appropriate for his work --
but which will at least add some variety.

Thanks again to you both.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
>
> > blafarm wrote:
> > However, their music selection is a bit limited for his application.
>
> Have you looked at purchasing more music scores from their library?
>
> Adobe had similar features within Soundbooth, but that's gone with the
release of CS5.5. However, you might still find some copy floating around
along with matching scores. Their selection was very limited, but at least
it might add a few new sounds.
>
> I have SmartSound, but more often than not go with music libraries and
edit the tracks to length. I use this one (MyMusicSource.com) a lot, along
with Killer tracks.
>
> - Oliver
>

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RE: [Avid-L2] SmartSound Alternative

 

I used to use Video Helper's music library. Their trick was that the music
was produced with lots of easy edit points so you could take out chunks to
get to the length you wanted. Great promo music and the best liner notes
ever. Honestly though, with a minimum of effort you can take the long
version of track and edit your own version. Usually better than the cut
downs the libraries give you anyway.

Dave Spraker

<http://spraker.tv/blog/> spraker.tv/blog

<http://www.advancedbroadcastsolutions.com/> advancedbroadcastsolutions.com

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
blafarm
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 3:16 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] SmartSound Alternative

I occasionally work with a client that requires stock music for his short
form promotional pieces.

SmartSound has proven useful for a number of his projects because of its
scoring tools -- and the ability to enter a show duration -- and mostly
generate a track that has a serviceable beginning and ending (as opposed to
needle drop with a fade).

However, their music selection is a bit limited for his application. Anyone
know of a similar product that offers some level of scoring tools -- or at
least the ability to designate a duration in order to generate a track that
compositionally "resolves" itself at the end of a show?

Thanks

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[Avid-L2] Re: SmartSound Alternative

 

Thanks Philip and Oliver.

I had a feeling there was not much else like it.

We've scoured their library -- and tapped-out all relevant tracks.

And, as his show durations constantly change -- and are at odd non-conforming values -- editing is rarely productive.

Guess it's time to lower the bar once again -- and include the next lower tier of SmartSound tracks -- that aren't really appropriate for his work -- but which will at least add some variety.

Thanks again to you both.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
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> > blafarm wrote:
> > However, their music selection is a bit limited for his application.
>
> Have you looked at purchasing more music scores from their library?
>
> Adobe had similar features within Soundbooth, but that's gone with the release of CS5.5. However, you might still find some copy floating around along with matching scores. Their selection was very limited, but at least it might add a few new sounds.
>
> I have SmartSound, but more often than not go with music libraries and edit the tracks to length. I use this one (MyMusicSource.com) a lot, along with Killer tracks.
>
> - Oliver
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