Thursday, November 9, 2017

Re: [Avid-L2] The last days I've been a QC monkey

 

Wow so your code can check all that audio level stuff.  That's very impressive.  My big iron brain always thinks of LM-100 units etc... for that stuff.  Seems like a lot of math and stuff that I don't have the chops for.  The more I learn the less I know.



---In avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bouke@...> wrote :

First of all, commercials over here are MXF Op1A, XDcam style.

What It does currently (cause they did not want more…)
It checks loudness / True Peak / Short term loudness / track amount / amount of channels per track / audio bitrate.
If fixable, it will try to compensate modifying sound only

It checks TC / duration, and will rewrap (no transcode) when off. (within limits, it will not trim off more than X frames when too long.)

It checks codec / bitrate / resolution.
If off, it will try to transcode to compliant file.

And (in the normal release, not public yet), it will check or generate sidecar XML, filename, etc, and eats close to anything on input, output a compliant file.

What it does NOT do (yet) is flicker (Harding test), video levels, field dominance / errors etc.
But over here commercial are hardly ever get rejected for that.

The old ('consumer') version is here (does not do all yet, but a lot. Input a QT, get an compliant file out of it.)


Bouke

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On 09 Nov 2017, at 18:20, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


What types of things fall under compliance?  Is your software looking at metadata that describes the type of or format of content?  Does the software analyze video and audio levels as well?

Are there toolbox like OS level software that your software accesses as a front end or do you write code that measures levels etc...  This is an area I know little about and find it interesting. 


---In avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bouke@...> wrote :

Well, not really, but I got a job to automate checking of compliance of commercials, so I got a nice test set of stuff that is intended to play out on a variety of big broadcasters (Including BBC, FOX, National Geographic and so on.)

And I'm amazed what kind of trash people think they can get to air…

Good thing, they wanted me also to fix 'small' problems (Audio a bit too loud / soft, TC not correct, progressive not flagged as interlace etc.), so we're not the typical bitching QC department.
But if I do reject a commercial, it's for a very good reason, and trust me, I now understand why some QC monkeys are sour.

/rant

Bouke

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Re: [Avid-L2] The last days I've been a QC monkey

 

First of all, commercials over here are MXF Op1A, XDcam style.

What It does currently (cause they did not want more…)
It checks loudness / True Peak / Short term loudness / track amount / amount of channels per track / audio bitrate.
If fixable, it will try to compensate modifying sound only

It checks TC / duration, and will rewrap (no transcode) when off. (within limits, it will not trim off more than X frames when too long.)

It checks codec / bitrate / resolution.
If off, it will try to transcode to compliant file.

And (in the normal release, not public yet), it will check or generate sidecar XML, filename, etc, and eats close to anything on input, output a compliant file.

What it does NOT do (yet) is flicker (Harding test), video levels, field dominance / errors etc.
But over here commercial are hardly ever get rejected for that.

The old ('consumer') version is here (does not do all yet, but a lot. Input a QT, get an compliant file out of it.)


Bouke

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On 09 Nov 2017, at 18:20, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


What types of things fall under compliance?  Is your software looking at metadata that describes the type of or format of content?  Does the software analyze video and audio levels as well?

Are there toolbox like OS level software that your software accesses as a front end or do you write code that measures levels etc...  This is an area I know little about and find it interesting. 


---In avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bouke@...> wrote :

Well, not really, but I got a job to automate checking of compliance of commercials, so I got a nice test set of stuff that is intended to play out on a variety of big broadcasters (Including BBC, FOX, National Geographic and so on.)

And I'm amazed what kind of trash people think they can get to air…

Good thing, they wanted me also to fix 'small' problems (Audio a bit too loud / soft, TC not correct, progressive not flagged as interlace etc.), so we're not the typical bitching QC department.
But if I do reject a commercial, it's for a very good reason, and trust me, I now understand why some QC monkeys are sour.

/rant

Bouke

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[Avid-L2] Re: The last days I've been a QC monkey

 

What types of things fall under compliance?  Is your software looking at metadata that describes the type of or format of content?  Does the software analyze video and audio levels as well?

Are there toolbox like OS level software that your software accesses as a front end or do you write code that measures levels etc...  This is an area I know little about and find it interesting. 


---In avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bouke@...> wrote :

Well, not really, but I got a job to automate checking of compliance of commercials, so I got a nice test set of stuff that is intended to play out on a variety of big broadcasters (Including BBC, FOX, National Geographic and so on.)

And I'm amazed what kind of trash people think they can get to air…

Good thing, they wanted me also to fix 'small' problems (Audio a bit too loud / soft, TC not correct, progressive not flagged as interlace etc.), so we're not the typical bitching QC department.
But if I do reject a commercial, it's for a very good reason, and trust me, I now understand why some QC monkeys are sour.

/rant

Bouke

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van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
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Posted by: bigfish@pacbell.net
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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

this is the Avid-L2

.

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[Avid-L2] Re: The last days I've been a QC monkey

 

I've been teaching QC for Post Houses and Broadcasters  (UK) for the last few years.
A lot of changes now we are almost completely file based.
That often involves workflow suggestions and ways to optimise the process to make it more efficient.
In the UK since the DPP work QC is a bit simpler. We only fail for mandatory compliance issues. Most issues are fed back as tech or editorial review and mostly they will be signed off by the Producer rather than being fixed.
Really enjoy delivering training for such a range of clients and I get to experience a wide range of QC departments.

Pat on mobile

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Wednesday, November 8, 2017

Re: [Avid-L2] Avid on Windows

 

Great, thanks!


On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Robert Lawson <avidrhl@gmail.com> wrote:
Projects generally reside in the Public user documents folder. You can also select a Private project which resides in the specific Windows User's document folder , so something like:

C://users/Public/documents/ ...And so on...
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM Shawn Broes shawn.broes@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Can someone tell me again what's the Avid project hierarchy on Windows?
Like C:Program Files/Avid/Avid Media Composer?
The system I'm on I believe is incorrect.
Thanks!




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Posted by: Shawn Broes <shawn.broes@gmail.com>
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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

this is the Avid-L2

.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Avid on Windows

 

Projects generally reside in the Public user documents folder. You can also select a Private project which resides in the specific Windows User's document folder , so something like:

C://users/Public/documents/ ...And so on...

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM Shawn Broes shawn.broes@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Can someone tell me again what's the Avid project hierarchy on Windows?
Like C:Program Files/Avid/Avid Media Composer?
The system I'm on I believe is incorrect.
Thanks!




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visual effects editor | los angeles
818-606-0576



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Posted by: Robert Lawson <avidrhl@gmail.com>
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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

this is the Avid-L2

.

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[Avid-L2] Avid on Windows

 

Can someone tell me again what's the Avid project hierarchy on Windows?
Like C:Program Files/Avid/Avid Media Composer?
The system I'm on I believe is incorrect.
Thanks!




--







shawn broes

visual effects editor | los angeles
818-606-0576



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Posted by: Shawn Broes <shawn.broes@gmail.com>
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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

this is the Avid-L2

.

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[Avid-L2] The last days I've been a QC monkey

 

Well, not really, but I got a job to automate checking of compliance of commercials, so I got a nice test set of stuff that is intended to play out on a variety of big broadcasters (Including BBC, FOX, National Geographic and so on.)


And I'm amazed what kind of trash people think they can get to air…

Good thing, they wanted me also to fix 'small' problems (Audio a bit too loud / soft, TC not correct, progressive not flagged as interlace etc.), so we're not the typical bitching QC department.
But if I do reject a commercial, it's for a very good reason, and trust me, I now understand why some QC monkeys are sour.

/rant

Bouke

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van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
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+31 6 21817248

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Posted by: Bouke <bouke@editb.nl>
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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

this is the Avid-L2

.

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Monday, November 6, 2017

RE: [Avid-L2] Qt Prores exports

 

When you say "name the tracks" do you mean assigning the various track assignments like Right Total or Lfe etc,,, are you talking about the pulldown menu of choices or is there a way to type your own text for tracks assignment,

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RE: [Avid-L2] Qt Prores exports

 

It's really that some of the people we deliver to want it removed not just set .

 

Maybe Apple script can but I was trying to avoid doin ght is in lots of bits of software… Because we also have to name the tracks which I think we can only do in the now obsolete QT pro..

 

N

 

From: Bouke [mailto:bouke@editb.nl]
Sent: 03 November 2017 13:00
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com; Nigel Gourley <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Qt Prores exports

 

Nige,

What's up with the clean aperture?

What should it be instead?

 

And, isn't Applescript able to do this all?

 

Bouke

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On 02 Nov 2017, at 19:14, 'Nigel Gourley' avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

Hi there

 

It seems everyone wants prores files but there isn't one bit of software that just fits all the requirements… Or is there?

 

We need to be able to remove the clean aperture info – Only JES does this that I can see

Label the tracks – Only QT 7 Pro does this that can see and that is EOL 

 

There are tools like CineXtools but it doesn't fix the clean aperture

 

We just want one tool that makes a Prores to a given spec!

 

Any suggestions..

 

Nige

 

 

 

 

 

 

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