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Wednesday, October 19, 2022
Re: [Avid-L2] Difference between Playback Tab and Motion Adapter set to 100% with Mixed Frame Rates?
Glad to know I'm on the right track. Thanks for the confirmation.
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 05:25 AM, Jef Huey wrote:
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On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 05:25 AM, Jef Huey wrote:
John has described my workflow for mixed frame rate docs exactly.
For all their issues, Avid got handling of mixed frame rates dead on. So easy to deal with. Now try the same project in Premiere and you will be ready to resign.
Jef
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Re: [Avid-L2] Difference between Playback Tab and Motion Adapter set to 100% with Mixed Frame Rates?
John has described my workflow for mixed frame rate docs exactly.
For all their issues, Avid got handling of mixed frame rates dead on. So easy to deal with. Now try the same project in Premiere and you will be ready to resign.
Jef
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For all their issues, Avid got handling of mixed frame rates dead on. So easy to deal with. Now try the same project in Premiere and you will be ready to resign.
Jef
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Tuesday, October 18, 2022
Re: [Avid-L2] Difference between Playback Tab and Motion Adapter set to 100% with Mixed Frame Rates?
You are correct that if there was sync audio it would go out of sync or get it's time slewed. The goal is to avoid the inherent motion artifacts that come with motion adapters. Taking 29.97 source material and cutting it into the 23.976 timeline often results in less than ideal motion. I know a teranex etc... does better conversion but that's not in the budget at this point. The reason for this approach is to facilitate a shot by shot assessment and adjustment. Using source settings playback tab is a global adjustment. I'm dealing with all sorts of frame rate clips and many are clips of an edited show where some shots work and others don't, hence the need for clip by clip assessment. I'm finding that it is visually better to playback some 29.97 clips frame for frame thereby removing the 125% auto motion adapter added and yes now they playback slowed down but if it's broll it will still work in the context of the show I'm working on. Much of the original broll was shot at 120fps so slowing down the archival broll when needed to avoid stutters or juddering isn't a deal breaker.
My basic question was to confirm that if I set the auto motion adapter to 100% the clip will playback frame for frame. That is my assumption but wanted to confirm. To show my age, "I have more frame rates than Carter has pills!!!"
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Re: [Avid-L2] Difference between Playback Tab and Motion Adapter set to 100% with Mixed Frame Rates?
John,
I'm genuinely curious about what you're asking (as opposed to being critical or snarky).
Wouldn't setting the Motion Adapter (T) to 100% cause the clips to playback incorrectly/out of sync? Additionally, you wouldn't you likely have to retime (trim) all the shots that were modified?
I'm also curious about the need to do what you described. What's the end goal and/or reason?
Lastly, wouldn't using Source Settings and then Refreshing the sequence be faster than changing one clip at a time in the sequence? Additionally, there's a "Refresh All" button in the Command Palette that you can map to the keyboard to make it even quicker, if that's helpful at all.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Benjamin
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On Oct 17, 2022, at 8:20 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:My master project is 23.976 but I have sources in all kinds of frame rates. I've brought everything into a matching frame rate project and checked to maintain the clips frame rate. If I want to playback frame for frame to avoid motion artifacts I know I can go to the source settings of a clip and choose 23.976 in the playback tab. This comes with the baggage of having to refresh the sequence with motion adapters if the clip is already in the timeline. I'm wondering if it would be more expedient to just go to the automatic motion adapter added to differing frame rate clips and setting the motion adapter to 100%. Anybody have a workflow approach in these situations?John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net
Monday, October 17, 2022
[Avid-L2] Difference between Playback Tab and Motion Adapter set to 100% with Mixed Frame Rates?
My master project is 23.976 but I have sources in all kinds of frame rates. I've brought everything into a matching frame rate project and checked to maintain the clips frame rate. If I want to playback frame for frame to avoid motion artifacts I know I can go to the source settings of a clip and choose 23.976 in the playback tab. This comes with the baggage of having to refresh the sequence with motion adapters if the clip is already in the timeline. I'm wondering if it would be more expedient to just go to the automatic motion adapter added to differing frame rate clips and setting the motion adapter to 100%. Anybody have a workflow approach in these situations?
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net
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