Wednesday, October 18, 2017

Re: Re[2]: [Avid-L2] Jpeg imports look correct bu t l inking to Jpeg is washed out off level?

 

Yes I link and transcode all kinds of things and appreciate the quick way to check things but I am puzzled as to why jpeg stills come in with crazy level shifts when linked.  Movs work just fine.  Weird.



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You're probably right.  OTOH,  I'm working on a show now where I need bits and pieces from dozens of long files with all sorts of formatting.  Linking, warts and all, has saved me many hours this week.  It would be even better without the warts. JB 



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Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 7:08 PM -0500 from Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>:


For stills I always do traditional import but this was just a quick comparison so I figured just like I would with a QT .mov I would link to the still to compare levels quickly.  That is how I QC exports of show masters but there is clearly something wonky if the ama/linked still show up likes it's been scaled even more than the usual Full Range to Legal Level and then a traditional import and the still is correct level.  Also the fact that it's only happening with jpegs in my few tests means something is wrong under the hood IMHO.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jb30343@...> wrote :

Avid has made some significant improvements in linking.  For correctly sized still graphics, the old fashioned import wins hands down.  Linking then fiddling with source settings then transcoding is pretty clumsy.  JB 



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Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 5:32 PM -0500 from Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>:


I've seen this before but I'm finally on Avid versions that have the source browser.  I'm on mac pro 10.9.5 OS Avid 8.6.4 and when I link to a jpeg I've exported from Avid the levels are washed out and low in gain.  There is no indication of source settings applying any scaling.  To eliminate Avid's jpeg export I took my smpte 219 color bars tiff and it links at perfect level.  I then opened the bars tiff in photoshop and resaved as a jpeg.  It defaulted to embedding a color profile and that seemed unchangeable.  After saving the bars tiff as a jpeg when I link to the bars jpeg the levels are again washed out and low in gain.

If I do a traditional import the levels come out correct so what is up with linking to a jpeg in Avid.  Is this a Mac thing?  I do not have Perian installed so I don't think that's a factor.  I've seen this behavior before when there was no source browser so I think it's the same bug.  I'm going to google but if anybody has sorted this out please share with the group.
 
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Re[2]: [Avid-L2] Jpeg imports look correct but l inking to Jpeg is washed out off level?

 

You're probably right.  OTOH,  I'm working on a show now where I need bits and pieces from dozens of long files with all sorts of formatting.  Linking, warts and all, has saved me many hours this week.  It would be even better without the warts. JB 



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For stills I always do traditional import but this was just a quick comparison so I figured just like I would with a QT .mov I would link to the still to compare levels quickly.  That is how I QC exports of show masters but there is clearly something wonky if the ama/linked still show up likes it's been scaled even more than the usual Full Range to Legal Level and then a traditional import and the still is correct level.  Also the fact that it's only happening with jpegs in my few tests means something is wrong under the hood IMHO.


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jb30343@...> wrote :

Avid has made some significant improvements in linking.  For correctly sized still graphics, the old fashioned import wins hands down.  Linking then fiddling with source settings then transcoding is pretty clumsy.  JB 



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Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 5:32 PM -0500 from Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>:


I've seen this before but I'm finally on Avid versions that have the source browser.  I'm on mac pro 10.9.5 OS Avid 8.6.4 and when I link to a jpeg I've exported from Avid the levels are washed out and low in gain.  There is no indication of source settings applying any scaling.  To eliminate Avid's jpeg export I took my smpte 219 color bars tiff and it links at perfect level.  I then opened the bars tiff in photoshop and resaved as a jpeg.  It defaulted to embedding a color profile and that seemed unchangeable.  After saving the bars tiff as a jpeg when I link to the bars jpeg the levels are again washed out and low in gain.

If I do a traditional import the levels come out correct so what is up with linking to a jpeg in Avid.  Is this a Mac thing?  I do not have Perian installed so I don't think that's a factor.  I've seen this behavior before when there was no source browser so I think it's the same bug.  I'm going to google but if anybody has sorted this out please share with the group.
 
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Re: [Avid-L2] Jpeg imports look correct but l inking to Jpeg is washed out off level?

 

For stills I always do traditional import but this was just a quick comparison so I figured just like I would with a QT .mov I would link to the still to compare levels quickly.  That is how I QC exports of show masters but there is clearly something wonky if the ama/linked still show up likes it's been scaled even more than the usual Full Range to Legal Level and then a traditional import and the still is correct level.  Also the fact that it's only happening with jpegs in my few tests means something is wrong under the hood IMHO.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jb30343@...> wrote :

Avid has made some significant improvements in linking.  For correctly sized still graphics, the old fashioned import wins hands down.  Linking then fiddling with source settings then transcoding is pretty clumsy.  JB 



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Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 5:32 PM -0500 from Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>:


I've seen this before but I'm finally on Avid versions that have the source browser.  I'm on mac pro 10.9.5 OS Avid 8.6.4 and when I link to a jpeg I've exported from Avid the levels are washed out and low in gain.  There is no indication of source settings applying any scaling.  To eliminate Avid's jpeg export I took my smpte 219 color bars tiff and it links at perfect level.  I then opened the bars tiff in photoshop and resaved as a jpeg.  It defaulted to embedding a color profile and that seemed unchangeable.  After saving the bars tiff as a jpeg when I link to the bars jpeg the levels are again washed out and low in gain.

If I do a traditional import the levels come out correct so what is up with linking to a jpeg in Avid.  Is this a Mac thing?  I do not have Perian installed so I don't think that's a factor.  I've seen this behavior before when there was no source browser so I think it's the same bug.  I'm going to google but if anybody has sorted this out please share with the group.
 
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Re: [Avid-L2] Jpeg imports look correct but linking to Jpeg is washed out off level?

 

Avid has made some significant improvements in linking.  For correctly sized still graphics, the old fashioned import wins hands down.  Linking then fiddling with source settings then transcoding is pretty clumsy.  JB 



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Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 5:32 PM -0500 from Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>:


I've seen this before but I'm finally on Avid versions that have the source browser.  I'm on mac pro 10.9.5 OS Avid 8.6.4 and when I link to a jpeg I've exported from Avid the levels are washed out and low in gain.  There is no indication of source settings applying any scaling.  To eliminate Avid's jpeg export I took my smpte 219 color bars tiff and it links at perfect level.  I then opened the bars tiff in photoshop and resaved as a jpeg.  It defaulted to embedding a color profile and that seemed unchangeable.  After saving the bars tiff as a jpeg when I link to the bars jpeg the levels are again washed out and low in gain.

If I do a traditional import the levels come out correct so what is up with linking to a jpeg in Avid.  Is this a Mac thing?  I do not have Perian installed so I don't think that's a factor.  I've seen this behavior before when there was no source browser so I think it's the same bug.  I'm going to google but if anybody has sorted this out please share with the group.
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net


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[Avid-L2] Jpeg imports look correct but linking to Jpeg is washed out off level?

 

I've seen this before but I'm finally on Avid versions that have the source browser.  I'm on mac pro 10.9.5 OS Avid 8.6.4 and when I link to a jpeg I've exported from Avid the levels are washed out and low in gain.  There is no indication of source settings applying any scaling.  To eliminate Avid's jpeg export I took my smpte 219 color bars tiff and it links at perfect level.  I then opened the bars tiff in photoshop and resaved as a jpeg.  It defaulted to embedding a color profile and that seemed unchangeable.  After saving the bars tiff as a jpeg when I link to the bars jpeg the levels are again washed out and low in gain.

If I do a traditional import the levels come out correct so what is up with linking to a jpeg in Avid.  Is this a Mac thing?  I do not have Perian installed so I don't think that's a factor.  I've seen this behavior before when there was no source browser so I think it's the same bug.  I'm going to google but if anybody has sorted this out please share with the group.
 
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Tuesday, October 17, 2017

[Avid-L2] The file had incorrect composition following EOM?

 

Got a cable network that wants J2K.mxf file delivery.  I'm doing a test with an uncompressed show clip they sent us.  I created black slug and slates at DNX 175X with black at top and tail.  I got this as a QC note:

The file had incorrect composition following EOM

I'm going to contact the network for clarification.  I'm assuming "EOM" stands for End Of Material.  The network requested 30 seconds of black followed by textless elements then another 30 seconds of black.  I'm pretty sure that's what I did but I'm starting to wonder what else "EOM" might stand for.  Is there something like "End Of Message" that could apply to a Jpeg2K .mxf file?

I'll find out more tomorrow but given there are hardly any parameters to adjust in the Avid AMA file export for J2k .mxf I don't see what could be wrong there.  Any insight appreciated.

They also flagged audio loudness of the 5.1 audio.  I just brought it in unity and exported it direct so that would mean the mix they sent was wrong or could there be a bug in the Avid export.  I will compare on the system tomorrow but all I have is the Avid meters to go by and from what I recall they looked pretty similar.  I'd have to send the audio to ProTools bay for critical analysis.
 
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RE: [Avid-L2] AVIDFS

 

So really nothing to do with performance more to do with project sharing.

 

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To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>; Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] AVIDFS

 

 

Right, yes, I very much forgot to mention the project sharing.  True preemptive file/bin locking to restrict access by others and help prevent accidental overwrite.

 

Jay

 

On Oct 17, 2017, at 3:34 PM, 'Dom Q. Silverio' domqsilverio@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 



AvidFS is Avid's file system for their storage products - i.e. Isis and Unity. 

 

When Avid MC detects the file system it automatically switches the project and media creation in sharing mode. Each edit bay creates their own project settings. Bin locking becomes active. And media folders have ownership based on computer host name. 

 

Careful with NAS. They tend to have high latency when compared to dedicated video storage servers. 



DQS

 


On Oct 17, 2017, at 4:21 PM, avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi there

 

What is the significance of the AVIDFS file system… We were experimenting with media on just a generic NAS and it works fine it seems so what is useful or needed about Avid FS>. 

 

Thanks

 

Nige



 

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Re: [Avid-L2] AVIDFS

 

Appart from performance a big difference is that If you share a Generic NAS
Volume with multiple Workstations you will have a conflict with Avid
databases unless you mount that volume as read only on all machines but
one, at least that's my experience.
Don't know if if that's still true with newer versions of Media Composer.

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On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 5:44 PM, 'Jay_mahavier@earthlink.net'
jay_mahavier@earthlink.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> Right, yes, I very much forgot to mention the project sharing. True
> preemptive file/bin locking to restrict access by others and help prevent
> accidental overwrite.
>
> Jay
>
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 3:34 PM, 'Dom Q. Silverio' domqsilverio@gmail.com
> [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> AvidFS is Avid's file system for their storage products - i.e. Isis and
> Unity.
>
> When Avid MC detects the file system it automatically switches the project
> and media creation in sharing mode. Each edit bay creates their own project
> settings. Bin locking becomes active. And media folders have ownership
> based on computer host name.
>
> Careful with NAS. They tend to have high latency when compared to
> dedicated video storage servers.
>
>
> DQS
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 4:21 PM, avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk [Avid-L2] <
> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there
>
> What is the significance of the AVIDFS file system… We were experimenting
> with media on just a generic NAS and it works fine it seems so what is
> useful or needed about Avid FS>.
>
> Thanks
>
> Nige
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] AVIDFS

 

Right, yes, I very much forgot to mention the project sharing.  True preemptive file/bin locking to restrict access by others and help prevent accidental overwrite.


Jay

On Oct 17, 2017, at 3:34 PM, 'Dom Q. Silverio' domqsilverio@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



AvidFS is Avid's file system for their storage products - i.e. Isis and Unity. 

When Avid MC detects the file system it automatically switches the project and media creation in sharing mode. Each edit bay creates their own project settings. Bin locking becomes active. And media folders have ownership based on computer host name. 

Careful with NAS. They tend to have high latency when compared to dedicated video storage servers. 


DQS


On Oct 17, 2017, at 4:21 PM, avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi there
 
What is the significance of the AVIDFS file system… We were experimenting with media on just a generic NAS and it works fine it seems so what is useful or needed about Avid FS>. 
 
Thanks
 
Nige



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Re: [Avid-L2] AVIDFS

 

bin locking and individual media folders based on hostname come to mind

BG
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Subject: [Avid-L2] AVIDFS

 
Hi there
 
What is the significance of the AVIDFS file system… We were experimenting with media on just a generic NAS and it works fine it seems so what is useful or needed about Avid FS>.
 
Thanks
 
Nige


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