[Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

Pete,

> Peter Jay Gould wrote:
> (COPS: pursuits, COPS: domestics, COPS: Mardi Gras etc.). We'll have the
> same thing, so all acquired footage has to be available for later use.
> That's why I'm trying to figure out how to do file based workflow and where
> the footage lives once it's off the solid state acquisition media.

Definitely a dilemma and I'm not sure Media Composer is well suited for this in a file-based world, but that's a different discussion. You either want to follow an offline/online workflow or work natively at a low data rate and have enough storage. That tends to make EX (at 35Mbps) a good choice, possibly using some sort of external storage.

One thing is for sure and that is you have to protect your original camera media and do not use it for editorial. This means back-up and redundancy. So look at LTO systems or cheap commodity hard drives. For example, you can readily buy raw 7200RPM 1TB Seagates and Western Digital at places like Best Buy for $100.

I think the big question is whether to edit natively with something like the EX codec or to set up some sort of proxy-media editing and then uprez. I would opt for native, but it really depends on how much media you're going to have to have on hand at any given time. These days, 5TB is not a serious amount of storage. Right not I'm making revisions to a special venue project and I've got 14TB of cheap storage right beside my desk.

Cheers,
Oliver

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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

Peter

You could also use software like Xendata's middleware which is like
having an infinite NAS.

It is a windows server with a RAID 5 or 6 hard disk cache which is
shared across your network like a common or garden NAS.

Behind that is a tape library with one (or more) LTO devices in it and
as many blank tapes as needed.

As you and your users copy data directly to the RAIDed drive on the
server or to it as a shared drive on the network, the data is backed up
automatically to tape. As one tape in a Volume set is filled it loads a
blank one automatically.

The clever things is that you could have a setup where the proxies are
left on RAIDed disk as well as backed up to tape; the primary data is
backed up and marked as offline to the filesystem, even though the
folders and icons are all still there and browsable. The
metadata/icons/folder structure remain on the Server's drive all the
time and if you go to an old folder and drill down and drag back to your
workstation a file you need, then the tape library loads the tape and
very soon you will have the primary file copying onto your editing
storage.

That way you could use something like CATDV to manage the proxies and
decide what was needed for edits later in the series and retrieving the
required high rez material would be painless.

We have more and more customers with this solution and the more we
install the cooler it reveals itself as being...

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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Jay Gould
Sent: 09 February 2010 22:04
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

Oliver Peters wrote:

>> The reality is that only Sony is bringing out new tape decks
>> and they aren't in super shape as a company these days. Most
>> owners I know don't want to buy any new decks and can
>> barely afford to properly maintain the decks they own. This
>> includes broadcasters.
>>
>> XDCAM is nice but many view it as an interim technology.
>> There isn't any great rush to buy XDCAM transports that I can
>> see. It's obvious that even Sony is moving away from the
>> optical flavor of this format. File-based post is still evolving
>> and it's not really there yet, but it is the future whether we like
>> it or not.

I agree with everything you've said, but that still begs the question:
if
I'm launching a show today, based upon the technology available today,
what's my best choice, and what's the resulting workflow?

Continuing to think in terms of COPS: they do regular shows and then
later
they do specials that string together previous footage in new
arrangements
(COPS: pursuits, COPS: domestics, COPS: Mardi Gras etc.). We'll have the
same thing, so all acquired footage has to be available for later use.
That's why I'm trying to figure out how to do file based workflow and
where
the footage lives once it's off the solid state acquisition media.

(To all: thanks for a fascinating discussion on this topic, which has
been
bothering me for quite awhile now).

Pete

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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

Oliver Peters wrote:

>> The reality is that only Sony is bringing out new tape decks
>> and they aren't in super shape as a company these days. Most
>> owners I know don't want to buy any new decks and can
>> barely afford to properly maintain the decks they own. This
>> includes broadcasters.
>>
>> XDCAM is nice but many view it as an interim technology.
>> There isn't any great rush to buy XDCAM transports that I can
>> see. It's obvious that even Sony is moving away from the
>> optical flavor of this format. File-based post is still evolving
>> and it's not really there yet, but it is the future whether we like
>> it or not.

I agree with everything you've said, but that still begs the question: if
I'm launching a show today, based upon the technology available today,
what's my best choice, and what's the resulting workflow?

Continuing to think in terms of COPS: they do regular shows and then later
they do specials that string together previous footage in new arrangements
(COPS: pursuits, COPS: domestics, COPS: Mardi Gras etc.). We'll have the
same thing, so all acquired footage has to be available for later use.
That's why I'm trying to figure out how to do file based workflow and where
the footage lives once it's off the solid state acquisition media.

(To all: thanks for a fascinating discussion on this topic, which has been
bothering me for quite awhile now).

Pete

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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

Pete

You could shoot file based and use the Sony XDCAM disks as "tapes" to
archive to if you want. Sony call them ProDiscs if you use them like
that, but they sit on the shelf the same.

In that case you could use a NextoDI NVS2500 in the field, edit and lay
off what you want to keep on Sony Blu Ray ProDiscs.

Or you could get a Nanoflash and shoot CF cards which are nearly cheap
enough to be like tapes and keep the data on there all the time.

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Of Peter Jay Gould
Sent: 09 February 2010 19:03
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

I grew up on tape: shoot the tape, ingest the tape, throw the tape on a
shelf. Five years later if you need footage from a tape, throw it in a
deck, find the footage and away you go.

In a huge facility I see how cool it would be to take EVERYTHING off P2
cards or the equivalent, put them on an enormous server, and be able to
access them in perpetuity. But in my world where 5TB of online storage
is a
lot, I'm trying to come up with a workflow that works and offers the
relative safety of tape-based storage (yes, something can happen to the
tape, but typically it happens only to a short portion of the tape - if
a
hard drive fails, ALL the data is gone). And backing the drive up to
linear
data tape of some sort doesn't give you the ability to put that tape in
a
drive and VIEW the contents - it's just data files until you restore it
and
view it from the hard drive.

XDCAM discs seem to be the closest thing to the "tape" mindset: shoot
'em,
ingest 'em, put 'em on a shelf. There they are when you need something
six
months or a year later.

The alternative of P2 or other memory-chip-based acquisition, unless the
chips are inexpensive enough to serve as the permanent storage media, is
something I'm still trying to get my arms around.

Pete

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Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:40 PM
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Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

If you can, shoot either DVCPROHD or XDCAM Discs.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> , "Peter
Jay Gould" <petegould@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm involved in a pitch for a reality tv show. Imagine something shot
in
> the style of COPS both in terms of acquisition and editorial approach
and
> also shoots that happen all over the country, multiple crews in
different
> locations, etc. An initial 26 episodes will be produced.
>
> What's the current consensus regarding a good HD acquisition format on
a
> direct-to-cable budget? Trying to steer them away from HDV although
it's
> being pushed for cost reasons.
>
> Pete

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[Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

> Peter Jay Gould wrote:
> I grew up on tape: shoot the tape, ingest the tape, throw the tape on a
> shelf. .....
> XDCAM discs seem to be the closest thing to the "tape" mindset:....

That's all well and good and I can certainly agree, however the reality is that only Sony is bringing out new tape decks and they aren't in super shape as a company these days. Most owners I know don't want to buy any new decks and can barely afford to properly maintain the decks they own. This includes broadcasters.

XDCAM is nice but many view it as an interim technology. There isn't any great rush to buy XDCAM transports that I can see. It's obvious that even Sony is moving away from the optical flavor of this format. File-based post is still evolving and it's not really there yet, but it is the future whether we like it or not.

- Oliver

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

My favorite workflow right now uses another option. For under a grand,
the 120GB Sony HD recorder on the back of an EX3 gives around 7 hrs of
35Mb record time. You mount the USB2 device via AMA for instant editing
or transfers.

You can still opt to use SxS or cheap flash at any time, in a pinch.
Back up to Bluray,.. Bada-Boom! Go home early.

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-recmedia/cat-recmediahdd/product-PHU120K/

Tom McDonnell wrote:

>
>
> On Cops I shot with a PDW-355 XDCAMHD with a Fujinon 4.5mm superwide zoom.
> While an EX-3 would be more maneuverable once you figure it out you
> can work
> a 355 in the front seat of a police car with no problem. There are guys
> taller than me, 6ft, who could easily maneuver in a police car. The
> biggest
> issue with the EX-3 is going to be extended camera takes. There where
> instances where I was rolling 30 minute takes on Cops. That would be
> brutal
> on an EX-3 unless you bought a modded shoulder mount. And then the
> advantage
> of the EX-3's small frame would be moot. Then there is the CMOS rolling
> shutter issue. With flashing police lights and strobes the rolling shutter
> effect is going to look really ugly.
>
> As far as file based workflow goes P2 or SxS cards would be impractical on
> COPS. Some nights I shot 4 60min discs. That's 92 Gigs of data. We where
> using single layer discs not dual layer like the 355 can record on. P2 or
> SxS would never work. At the end of the night I turned in my discs and hit
> the sack. No data mangling or downloading and backing up cards. Discs are
> your archive not LTO's or endless portable hardrives. Just because
> some big
> name company uses a product means absolutely nothing. What works for Bunim
> or Langley may not work for you. Hey NBC invested into MII and that was a
> disaster and then there was SX... You can blame CNN for SX.
>
> In the end you have to pick you're your own poison just remember to stay
> away from the cool aid drinkers.
>
> TMcD
>
>

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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

I grew up on tape: shoot the tape, ingest the tape, throw the tape on a
shelf. Five years later if you need footage from a tape, throw it in a
deck, find the footage and away you go.

In a huge facility I see how cool it would be to take EVERYTHING off P2
cards or the equivalent, put them on an enormous server, and be able to
access them in perpetuity. But in my world where 5TB of online storage is a
lot, I'm trying to come up with a workflow that works and offers the
relative safety of tape-based storage (yes, something can happen to the
tape, but typically it happens only to a short portion of the tape - if a
hard drive fails, ALL the data is gone). And backing the drive up to linear
data tape of some sort doesn't give you the ability to put that tape in a
drive and VIEW the contents - it's just data files until you restore it and
view it from the hard drive.

XDCAM discs seem to be the closest thing to the "tape" mindset: shoot 'em,
ingest 'em, put 'em on a shelf. There they are when you need something six
months or a year later.

The alternative of P2 or other memory-chip-based acquisition, unless the
chips are inexpensive enough to serve as the permanent storage media, is
something I'm still trying to get my arms around.

Pete

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Terence Curren
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:40 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

If you can, shoot either DVCPROHD or XDCAM Discs.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> , "Peter
Jay Gould" <petegould@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm involved in a pitch for a reality tv show. Imagine something shot in
> the style of COPS both in terms of acquisition and editorial approach and
> also shoots that happen all over the country, multiple crews in different
> locations, etc. An initial 26 episodes will be produced.
>
> What's the current consensus regarding a good HD acquisition format on a
> direct-to-cable budget? Trying to steer them away from HDV although it's
> being pushed for cost reasons.
>
> Pete

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Panasonic announces Blue Ray recorders

"Terence Curren" (09-02-2010 19:16) :

> No SDI in though. :-(

No inputs whatsoever, except for iLink.

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[Avid-L2] Re: A BluRay Recorder at last

Here's the skinny:

"We sell direct at present.
Price is £2995"

That means $4,680.96 plus shipping to those of us in the US.

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Re: [Avid-L2] FR: disabling new keyboard feature 'Entering Timecode changes'?

"brucerees23" (09-02-2010 15:41) :

> The downside of this is, if you actually use the CTRL key for other purposes
> like snapping to edits, you might find the timecode window often popping up
> interrupting your happy journey through the timeline.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Panasonic announces Blue Ray recorders

No SDI in though. :-(

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> http://www.engadget.com/
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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

On Cops I shot with a PDW-355 XDCAMHD with a Fujinon 4.5mm superwide zoom.
While an EX-3 would be more maneuverable once you figure it out you can work
a 355 in the front seat of a police car with no problem. There are guys
taller than me, 6ft, who could easily maneuver in a police car. The biggest
issue with the EX-3 is going to be extended camera takes. There where
instances where I was rolling 30 minute takes on Cops. That would be brutal
on an EX-3 unless you bought a modded shoulder mount. And then the advantage
of the EX-3's small frame would be moot. Then there is the CMOS rolling
shutter issue. With flashing police lights and strobes the rolling shutter
effect is going to look really ugly.

As far as file based workflow goes P2 or SxS cards would be impractical on
COPS. Some nights I shot 4 60min discs. That's 92 Gigs of data. We where
using single layer discs not dual layer like the 355 can record on. P2 or
SxS would never work. At the end of the night I turned in my discs and hit
the sack. No data mangling or downloading and backing up cards. Discs are
your archive not LTO's or endless portable hardrives. Just because some big
name company uses a product means absolutely nothing. What works for Bunim
or Langley may not work for you. Hey NBC invested into MII and that was a
disaster and then there was SX... You can blame CNN for SX.

In the end you have to pick you're your own poison just remember to stay
away from the cool aid drinkers.

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[Avid-L2] Re: moving the timeline

A long time ago, I set up my Timeline to show the Position Bar rather than the scroll for pretty much the same reason. I can't work without it now.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Richard Tibbetts <huipro@...> wrote:
>
> Page up/down.
> Scrolling timeline settings.
> FF/REWIND (go to previous-go to next).
> Use the record side window position bar.
> All of the above.
>
> RT
>
> On Feb 9, 2010, at 6:24 AM, David Ross <speckydave@...> wrote:
>
> > Not in front of an Avid at the moment, but I'm pretty sure you can
> > jog/shuttle with a mouse wheel with the appropriate key modifier held
> > down.
> > Amongst other options...
> >
> > D.
> >
> > On 9 February 2010 16:21, Marc Fisher <cav2ya@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > is there a way to move the timeline,or rather, pan left or right
> > in the timeline, without having to go to the bottom and grab the bar
> > every time?
> > > DS has the X Key, FCP the H Key, After Effects the Space bar.
> > Composer/Symph ?
> > >
> > > thnaks.
> > > Marc
> > >
> >
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] FR: disabling new keyboard feature 'Entering Timecode changes'?

Definitely don't DE-feature it, but a setting to enable/disable makes
sense.

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On Feb 9, 2010, at 6:41 AM, brucerees23 wrote:

> Hi all, Avid has added a new feature in v4 :
>
> "If using a laptop or computer without a dedicated numeric keypad,
> you can press and release the left Ctrl key twice quickly to use
> standard number keys to enter timecode."
>
> The downside of this is, if you actually use the CTRL key for other
> purposes like snapping to edits, you might find the timecode window
> often popping up interrupting your happy journey through the timeline.
>
> Arguably I could avoid pressing CTRL twice quickly, but it'd be nice
> to turn this feature off since I have a full-sized keyboard with
> numeric pad. Any suggestions or should I submit this as a de-feature
> request?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce Rees
> www.ppd.ca
>
>
>

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[Avid-L2] Panasonic announces Blue Ray recorders

http://www.engadget.com/

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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Bill Nye sighting

Yes. Very funny IF you know the local references. Quite a few bits on the
'ol You Tube. My favorite is their remake of West Side Store pitting the
preps from Bellevue vs. the Stoners from Lynwood.

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10th from 9am to 5pm.

-----Original Message-----
From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
johnrobmoore
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:08 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Bill Nye sighting

I think I saw that show when I was in Seattle. It was a Saturday night show
like a local version of Late Night with David Letterman. Is that the same
show?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> .com, "Dave
Spraker" <avid@...> wrote:
>
> When I was an intern @ KING-TV, Bill was getting his start on the "Almost
> Live" show. I thought he was kind of a @ss. I wouldn't trust him with my
> wife...although I think she would be immune to his "charms."
>
> Now John Keister - that's a funny guy.
>
> Dave Spraker
> Account Executive & Avid Specialist
> Professional Video and Tape
> 503.810.3642 - cell
> 800.833.4801 - toll free
> 503.598.9142 - office
> 503.598.9172 - fax
> AIM: dAVID at PVT
>
> It's back! The 10th Annual
> <http://www.provideo <http://www.provideoandtape.com/registration.php>
andtape.com/registration.php> Cascade Mountain Video
> Show comes home to Portland's World Forestry Center on Wednesday, February
> 10th from 9am to 5pm.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
> Wes Plate
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 1:36 PM
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Bill Nye sighting
>
>
>
>
> On 2/8/10 1:24 PM, "John Moore" <bigfish@pacbell.
> <mailto:bigfish%40pacbell.net> net> wrote:
>
> > So now the question is how do I open a can of nerd whoop ass on him?
>
> Hell no, dude, Bill Nye is rad. I think you should be happy for your wife
> that she was able to have a long conversation with him. Don't let jealousy
> overtake you, that's just ugly.
>
> A lifetime or so ago I was in the same room as Bill Nye, he was in an
> editing suite during post of his show at the facility I worked. I managed
> to suppress my inner dribbling babbling superfan.
>
> --
> Wes Plate
> Automatic Duck, Inc.
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cduck.com> cduck.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] moving the timeline

I'm reasonably sure that is you have Apple's Mighty-Mouse (or whatever
it's called) with that little nib on the top of it, you can scroll
left and right.

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On Feb 9, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Marc Fisher wrote:

> is there a way to move the timeline,or rather, pan left or right in
> the timeline, without having to go to the bottom and grab the bar
> every time?
> DS has the X Key, FCP the H Key, After Effects the Space bar.
> Composer/Symph ?
>
> thnaks.
> Marc
>
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] moving the timeline

Page up/down.
Scrolling timeline settings.
FF/REWIND (go to previous-go to next).
Use the record side window position bar.
All of the above.

RT

On Feb 9, 2010, at 6:24 AM, David Ross <speckydave@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not in front of an Avid at the moment, but I'm pretty sure you can
> jog/shuttle with a mouse wheel with the appropriate key modifier held
> down.
> Amongst other options...
>
> D.
>
> On 9 February 2010 16:21, Marc Fisher <cav2ya@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > is there a way to move the timeline,or rather, pan left or right
> in the timeline, without having to go to the bottom and grab the bar
> every time?
> > DS has the X Key, FCP the H Key, After Effects the Space bar.
> Composer/Symph ?
> >
> > thnaks.
> > Marc
> >
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] moving the timeline

Try the page keys.

On Feb 9, 2010, at 10:21 AM, Marc Fisher wrote:

> is there a way to move the timeline,or rather, pan left or right in
> the timeline, without having to go to the bottom and grab the bar
> every time?
> DS has the X Key, FCP the H Key, After Effects the Space bar.
> Composer/Symph ?
>
> thnaks.
> Marc
>
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] moving the timeline

Not in front of an Avid at the moment, but I'm pretty sure you can
jog/shuttle with a mouse wheel with the appropriate key modifier held
down.
Amongst other options...

D.

On 9 February 2010 16:21, Marc Fisher <cav2ya@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> is there a way to move the timeline,or rather, pan left or right in the timeline, without having to go to the bottom and grab the bar every time?
> DS has the X Key, FCP the H Key, After Effects the Space bar. Composer/Symph ?
>
> thnaks.
> Marc
>

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[Avid-L2] moving the timeline

is there a way to move the timeline,or rather, pan left or right in the timeline, without having to go to the bottom and grab the bar every time?
DS has the X Key, FCP the H Key, After Effects the Space bar. Composer/Symph ?

thnaks.
Marc

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

Depending on the adaptor you choose, you can go the Sony duo memory
sticks or the cheaper SD memory cards.

Both seem the work. I think Sony endorses their memory on some of the
newer avchd cameras.

RT
Sent via iPhone.

On Feb 9, 2010, at 5:22 AM, "Mark" <markraudonis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Google "S x S adaptor" and you'll find plenty of choices. Same with
> SDHC cards. Plenty of choices.
>
> Mark
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, rusescu laurentiu
> <rusesculaurentiu@...> wrote:
> >
> > So copying the SxS card is done on the same combo used for ingest.
> What tipe of SxS adapter and cheap flash memory are you using ?
> >
> > Thanks, I am preparing for a reality prod and post myself.
> >
> > Laurentiu
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mark <markraudonis@...>
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 5:05:56 PM
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats
> >
> > Â
> > Transfer is done as part of the post process, NOT on site. Chips
> are shipped to post, transfered, then shipped back to production for
> further shooting.
> >
> > mark
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, rusescu laurentiu
> <rusesculaurentiu@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > I found verry useful what you describe. One question ( maybe
> more...) The transfer from the SXS card to the PDW-U1 is done on
> site ? How? Do you have the time ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > From: Mark <markraudonis@ ...>
> > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com
> > > Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 4:18:53 PM
> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > > We use the Sony XDCAM-HD disc based format as our prime
> acquisition format. Lately there seems to be a fair amount of EX-3
> footage finding our way into our workflow. As
> > > others have mentioned, the XDCAM format is appealing to us for a
> variety of reasons:
> > > cost, convenience and quality.
> > >
> > > The most important of these reasons is convenience. Seriously.
> If you're talking about thousands and thousands of hours of media,
> then any small advantage becomes a big deal. With XDCAM, the disc IS
> your archive source. For EX footage, we immediately tranfer to XDCAM
> DATA discs and that becomes our archiveable media.
> > >
> > > But the biggest factor for us is the ability to digitize FASTER
> than realtime. Since it's file based, you can bring it onto your SAN
> faster than realtime. If you use multiple PDW-U1's, you can bring in
> multiple streams simultaneously, and THAT is a big deal.
> > >
> > > We've set up what I call the "Digital Sponge" or the "Digital
> Quicker Picker Upper". It's a combo of ten mac Mini's, a Mac Pro and
> twenty PDW-U1's. We can ingest twenty streams of XDCAM video at
> once. Translation: what used to take days now can be completed in
> one 24 hr cycle. For us, this is the ONLY way that we can keep up
> with the massive amounts of media coming in from production. This
> set up would not be practical with any other format. (Well, maybe
> P2, but then you'd still have the archive issue).
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, RT <huipro@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would favor the EX3 but some might find the Panasonic
> Monopiece
> > > > designs easier to squeeze in (and out) of tight spots.
> > > >
> > > > Love the EX3 quality, but there are other considerations here.
> > > >
> > > > A friend of mine, who has been shooting active volcano footage
> for
> > > > decades, swears that you should only carry a camera that you
> are willing
> > > > to ditch without hesitation!
> > > >
> > > > RT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rupert Watson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are sitting in the back of a police car, people I
> know who do
> > > > > that for a living all seem to favour the Sony EX3.
> > > > >
> > > > > The small form factor means you can lean forward and shoot
> between the
> > > > > front seats, whereas the larger, shoulder mounted, cameras
> make this a
> > > > > lot harder and the footage has a more remote-from- the-
> action feel.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rupert Watson
> > > > >
> > > > > +447787554801
> > > > >
> > > > > www.root6.com
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid-
> L2%40yahoogroups .com>
> > > > > [mailto:Avid- L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid-
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> > > > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Multimediac
> > > > > Sent: 09 February 2010 00:16
> > > > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid-
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> > > > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Reality TV Formats
> > > > >
> > > > > I worked on 5 reality shows last year... all were shot on
> either
> > > > > Panasonic P2 or Sony EX
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah... I'd say stay away from HDV.
> > > > >
> > > > > george
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

Makes a lot of sense.

2 xdcam drives per CPU? What happens then? Straight file copy to
lanshare? Ingest via Sony utility? AMA or consolidate? What format
are the deliverables?

The bluray and flash seem a good match and I would guess have similar
transfer speeds.

That's a mountain of footage Do you also have 20 monkeys logging this
stuff? ;-)

RT

On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:18 AM, "Mark" <markraudonis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> We use the Sony XDCAM-HD disc based format as our prime acquisition
> format. Lately there seems to be a fair amount of EX-3 footage
> finding our way into our workflow. As
> others have mentioned, the XDCAM format is appealing to us for a
> variety of reasons:
> cost, convenience and quality.
>
> The most important of these reasons is convenience. Seriously. If
> you're talking about thousands and thousands of hours of media, then
> any small advantage becomes a big deal. With XDCAM, the disc IS your
> archive source. For EX footage, we immediately tranfer to XDCAM DATA
> discs and that becomes our archiveable media.
>
> But the biggest factor for us is the ability to digitize FASTER than
> realtime. Since it's file based, you can bring it onto your SAN
> faster than realtime. If you use multiple PDW-U1's, you can bring in
> multiple streams simultaneously, and THAT is a big deal.
>
> We've set up what I call the "Digital Sponge" or the "Digital
> Quicker Picker Upper". It's a combo of ten mac Mini's, a Mac Pro and
> twenty PDW-U1's. We can ingest twenty streams of XDCAM video at
> once. Translation: what used to take days now can be completed in
> one 24 hr cycle. For us, this is the ONLY way that we can keep up
> with the massive amounts of media coming in from production. This
> set up would not be practical with any other format. (Well, maybe
> P2, but then you'd still have the archive issue).
>
> Mark
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, RT <huipro@...> wrote:
> >
> > I would favor the EX3 but some might find the Panasonic Monopiece
> > designs easier to squeeze in (and out) of tight spots.
> >
> > Love the EX3 quality, but there are other considerations here.
> >
> > A friend of mine, who has been shooting active volcano footage for
> > decades, swears that you should only carry a camera that you are
> willing
> > to ditch without hesitation!
> >
> > RT
> >
> >
> >
> > Rupert Watson wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you are sitting in the back of a police car, people I know
> who do
> > > that for a living all seem to favour the Sony EX3.
> > >
> > > The small form factor means you can lean forward and shoot
> between the
> > > front seats, whereas the larger, shoulder mounted, cameras make
> this a
> > > lot harder and the footage has a more remote-from-the-action feel.
> > >
> > > Rupert Watson
> > >
> > > +447787554801
> > >
> > > www.root6.com
> > >
> > > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-
> L2%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of Multimediac
> > > Sent: 09 February 2010 00:16
> > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Reality TV Formats
> > >
> > > I worked on 5 reality shows last year... all were shot on either
> > > Panasonic P2 or Sony EX
> > >
> > > Yeah... I'd say stay away from HDV.
> > >
> > > george
> > >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

Correct. I was just trying to use your experience. Great insight though. Much appreciated.
Thanks,
Laurentiu

________________________________
From: Mark <markraudonis@yahoo.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 5:22:44 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

 
Google "S x S adaptor" and you'll find plenty of choices. Same with SDHC cards. Plenty of choices.

Mark

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, rusescu laurentiu <rusesculaurentiu@ ...> wrote:
>
> So copying the SxS card is done on the same combo used for ingest. What tipe of SxS adapter and cheap flash memory are you using ?
>
> Thanks, I am preparing for a reality prod and post myself.
>
> Laurentiu
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Mark <markraudonis@ ...>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 5:05:56 PM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats
>
>  
> Transfer is done as part of the post process, NOT on site. Chips are shipped to post, transfered, then shipped back to production for further shooting.
>
> mark
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, rusescu laurentiu <rusesculaurentiu@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > I found verry useful what you describe. One question ( maybe more...) The transfer from the SXS card to the PDW-U1 is done on site ? How? Do you have the time ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: Mark <markraudonis@ ...>
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com
> > Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 4:18:53 PM
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats
> >
> >  
> > We use the Sony XDCAM-HD disc based format as our prime acquisition format. Lately there seems to be a fair amount of EX-3 footage finding our way into our workflow. As
> > others have mentioned, the XDCAM format is appealing to us for a variety of reasons:
> > cost, convenience and quality.
> >
> > The most important of these reasons is convenience. Seriously. If you're talking about thousands and thousands of hours of media, then any small advantage becomes a big deal. With XDCAM, the disc IS your archive source. For EX footage, we immediately tranfer to XDCAM DATA discs and that becomes our archiveable media.
> >
> > But the biggest factor for us is the ability to digitize FASTER than realtime. Since it's file based, you can bring it onto your SAN faster than realtime. If you use multiple PDW-U1's, you can bring in multiple streams simultaneously, and THAT is a big deal.
> >
> > We've set up what I call the "Digital Sponge" or the "Digital Quicker Picker Upper". It's a combo of ten mac Mini's, a Mac Pro and twenty PDW-U1's. We can ingest twenty streams of XDCAM video at once. Translation: what used to take days now can be completed in one 24 hr cycle. For us, this is the ONLY way that we can keep up with the massive amounts of media coming in from production. This set up would not be practical with any other format. (Well, maybe P2, but then you'd still have the archive issue).
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, RT <huipro@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would favor the EX3 but some might find the Panasonic Monopiece
> > > designs easier to squeeze in (and out) of tight spots.
> > >
> > > Love the EX3 quality, but there are other considerations here.
> > >
> > > A friend of mine, who has been shooting active volcano footage for
> > > decades, swears that you should only carry a camera that you are willing
> > > to ditch without hesitation!
> > >
> > > RT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rupert Watson wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you are sitting in the back of a police car, people I know who do
> > > > that for a living all seem to favour the Sony EX3.
> > > >
> > > > The small form factor means you can lean forward and shoot between the
> > > > front seats, whereas the larger, shoulder mounted, cameras make this a
> > > > lot harder and the footage has a more remote-from- the-action feel.
> > > >
> > > > Rupert Watson
> > > >
> > > > +447787554801
> > > >
> > > > www.root6.com
> > > >
> > > > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>
> > > > [mailto:Avid- L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > Of Multimediac
> > > > Sent: 09 February 2010 00:16
> > > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Reality TV Formats
> > > >
> > > > I worked on 5 reality shows last year... all were shot on either
> > > > Panasonic P2 or Sony EX
> > > >
> > > > Yeah... I'd say stay away from HDV.
> > > >
> > > > george
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> > > > Registered in the UK at
> > > > 4 WARDOUR MEWS, LONDON
> > > > W1F 8AJ
> > > > Company No. 03433253
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[Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

Google "S x S adaptor" and you'll find plenty of choices. Same with SDHC cards. Plenty of choices.

Mark

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, rusescu laurentiu <rusesculaurentiu@...> wrote:
>
> So copying the SxS card is done on the same combo used for ingest. What tipe of SxS adapter and cheap flash memory are you using ?
>
> Thanks, I am preparing for a reality prod and post myself.
>
> Laurentiu
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mark <markraudonis@...>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 5:05:56 PM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats
>
>  
> Transfer is done as part of the post process, NOT on site. Chips are shipped to post, transfered, then shipped back to production for further shooting.
>
> mark
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, rusescu laurentiu <rusesculaurentiu@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > I found verry useful what you describe. One question ( maybe more...) The transfer from the SXS card to the PDW-U1 is done on site ? How? Do you have the time ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: Mark <markraudonis@ ...>
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com
> > Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 4:18:53 PM
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats
> >
> >  
> > We use the Sony XDCAM-HD disc based format as our prime acquisition format. Lately there seems to be a fair amount of EX-3 footage finding our way into our workflow. As
> > others have mentioned, the XDCAM format is appealing to us for a variety of reasons:
> > cost, convenience and quality.
> >
> > The most important of these reasons is convenience. Seriously. If you're talking about thousands and thousands of hours of media, then any small advantage becomes a big deal. With XDCAM, the disc IS your archive source. For EX footage, we immediately tranfer to XDCAM DATA discs and that becomes our archiveable media.
> >
> > But the biggest factor for us is the ability to digitize FASTER than realtime. Since it's file based, you can bring it onto your SAN faster than realtime. If you use multiple PDW-U1's, you can bring in multiple streams simultaneously, and THAT is a big deal.
> >
> > We've set up what I call the "Digital Sponge" or the "Digital Quicker Picker Upper". It's a combo of ten mac Mini's, a Mac Pro and twenty PDW-U1's. We can ingest twenty streams of XDCAM video at once. Translation: what used to take days now can be completed in one 24 hr cycle. For us, this is the ONLY way that we can keep up with the massive amounts of media coming in from production. This set up would not be practical with any other format. (Well, maybe P2, but then you'd still have the archive issue).
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, RT <huipro@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would favor the EX3 but some might find the Panasonic Monopiece
> > > designs easier to squeeze in (and out) of tight spots.
> > >
> > > Love the EX3 quality, but there are other considerations here.
> > >
> > > A friend of mine, who has been shooting active volcano footage for
> > > decades, swears that you should only carry a camera that you are willing
> > > to ditch without hesitation!
> > >
> > > RT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rupert Watson wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you are sitting in the back of a police car, people I know who do
> > > > that for a living all seem to favour the Sony EX3.
> > > >
> > > > The small form factor means you can lean forward and shoot between the
> > > > front seats, whereas the larger, shoulder mounted, cameras make this a
> > > > lot harder and the footage has a more remote-from- the-action feel.
> > > >
> > > > Rupert Watson
> > > >
> > > > +447787554801
> > > >
> > > > www.root6.com
> > > >
> > > > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>
> > > > [mailto:Avid- L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > Of Multimediac
> > > > Sent: 09 February 2010 00:16
> > > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Reality TV Formats
> > > >
> > > > I worked on 5 reality shows last year... all were shot on either
> > > > Panasonic P2 or Sony EX
> > > >
> > > > Yeah... I'd say stay away from HDV.
> > > >
> > > > george
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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> > > > ROOT 6 LIMITED
> > > > Registered in the UK at
> > > > 4 WARDOUR MEWS, LONDON
> > > > W1F 8AJ
> > > > Company No. 03433253
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

So copying the SxS card is done on the same combo used for ingest. What tipe of SxS adapter and cheap flash memory are you using ?

Thanks, I am preparing for a reality prod and post myself.

Laurentiu

________________________________
From: Mark <markraudonis@yahoo.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 5:05:56 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

 
Transfer is done as part of the post process, NOT on site. Chips are shipped to post, transfered, then shipped back to production for further shooting.

mark

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, rusescu laurentiu <rusesculaurentiu@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I found verry useful what you describe. One question ( maybe more...) The transfer from the SXS card to the PDW-U1 is done on site ? How? Do you have the time ?
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Mark <markraudonis@ ...>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 4:18:53 PM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats
>
>  
> We use the Sony XDCAM-HD disc based format as our prime acquisition format. Lately there seems to be a fair amount of EX-3 footage finding our way into our workflow. As
> others have mentioned, the XDCAM format is appealing to us for a variety of reasons:
> cost, convenience and quality.
>
> The most important of these reasons is convenience. Seriously. If you're talking about thousands and thousands of hours of media, then any small advantage becomes a big deal. With XDCAM, the disc IS your archive source. For EX footage, we immediately tranfer to XDCAM DATA discs and that becomes our archiveable media.
>
> But the biggest factor for us is the ability to digitize FASTER than realtime. Since it's file based, you can bring it onto your SAN faster than realtime. If you use multiple PDW-U1's, you can bring in multiple streams simultaneously, and THAT is a big deal.
>
> We've set up what I call the "Digital Sponge" or the "Digital Quicker Picker Upper". It's a combo of ten mac Mini's, a Mac Pro and twenty PDW-U1's. We can ingest twenty streams of XDCAM video at once. Translation: what used to take days now can be completed in one 24 hr cycle. For us, this is the ONLY way that we can keep up with the massive amounts of media coming in from production. This set up would not be practical with any other format. (Well, maybe P2, but then you'd still have the archive issue).
>
> Mark
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, RT <huipro@> wrote:
> >
> > I would favor the EX3 but some might find the Panasonic Monopiece
> > designs easier to squeeze in (and out) of tight spots.
> >
> > Love the EX3 quality, but there are other considerations here.
> >
> > A friend of mine, who has been shooting active volcano footage for
> > decades, swears that you should only carry a camera that you are willing
> > to ditch without hesitation!
> >
> > RT
> >
> >
> >
> > Rupert Watson wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you are sitting in the back of a police car, people I know who do
> > > that for a living all seem to favour the Sony EX3.
> > >
> > > The small form factor means you can lean forward and shoot between the
> > > front seats, whereas the larger, shoulder mounted, cameras make this a
> > > lot harder and the footage has a more remote-from- the-action feel.
> > >
> > > Rupert Watson
> > >
> > > +447787554801
> > >
> > > www.root6.com
> > >
> > > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>
> > > [mailto:Avid- L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>] On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of Multimediac
> > > Sent: 09 February 2010 00:16
> > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Reality TV Formats
> > >
> > > I worked on 5 reality shows last year... all were shot on either
> > > Panasonic P2 or Sony EX
> > >
> > > Yeah... I'd say stay away from HDV.
> > >
> > > george
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> > > Registered in the UK at
> > > 4 WARDOUR MEWS, LONDON
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> > > Company No. 03433253
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[Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

Transfer is done as part of the post process, NOT on site. Chips are shipped to post, transfered, then shipped back to production for further shooting.

mark

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, rusescu laurentiu <rusesculaurentiu@...> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I found verry useful what you describe. One question ( maybe more...) The transfer from the SXS card to the PDW-U1 is done on site ? How? Do you have the time ?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mark <markraudonis@...>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 4:18:53 PM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats
>
>  
> We use the Sony XDCAM-HD disc based format as our prime acquisition format. Lately there seems to be a fair amount of EX-3 footage finding our way into our workflow. As
> others have mentioned, the XDCAM format is appealing to us for a variety of reasons:
> cost, convenience and quality.
>
> The most important of these reasons is convenience. Seriously. If you're talking about thousands and thousands of hours of media, then any small advantage becomes a big deal. With XDCAM, the disc IS your archive source. For EX footage, we immediately tranfer to XDCAM DATA discs and that becomes our archiveable media.
>
> But the biggest factor for us is the ability to digitize FASTER than realtime. Since it's file based, you can bring it onto your SAN faster than realtime. If you use multiple PDW-U1's, you can bring in multiple streams simultaneously, and THAT is a big deal.
>
> We've set up what I call the "Digital Sponge" or the "Digital Quicker Picker Upper". It's a combo of ten mac Mini's, a Mac Pro and twenty PDW-U1's. We can ingest twenty streams of XDCAM video at once. Translation: what used to take days now can be completed in one 24 hr cycle. For us, this is the ONLY way that we can keep up with the massive amounts of media coming in from production. This set up would not be practical with any other format. (Well, maybe P2, but then you'd still have the archive issue).
>
> Mark
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, RT <huipro@> wrote:
> >
> > I would favor the EX3 but some might find the Panasonic Monopiece
> > designs easier to squeeze in (and out) of tight spots.
> >
> > Love the EX3 quality, but there are other considerations here.
> >
> > A friend of mine, who has been shooting active volcano footage for
> > decades, swears that you should only carry a camera that you are willing
> > to ditch without hesitation!
> >
> > RT
> >
> >
> >
> > Rupert Watson wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you are sitting in the back of a police car, people I know who do
> > > that for a living all seem to favour the Sony EX3.
> > >
> > > The small form factor means you can lean forward and shoot between the
> > > front seats, whereas the larger, shoulder mounted, cameras make this a
> > > lot harder and the footage has a more remote-from- the-action feel.
> > >
> > > Rupert Watson
> > >
> > > +447787554801
> > >
> > > www.root6.com
> > >
> > > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>
> > > [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>] On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of Multimediac
> > > Sent: 09 February 2010 00:16
> > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Reality TV Formats
> > >
> > > I worked on 5 reality shows last year... all were shot on either
> > > Panasonic P2 or Sony EX
> > >
> > > Yeah... I'd say stay away from HDV.
> > >
> > > george
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

Hi.

I found verry useful what you describe. One question ( maybe more...) The transfer from the SXS card to the PDW-U1 is done on site ? How? Do you have the time ?

________________________________
From: Mark <markraudonis@yahoo.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 4:18:53 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

 
We use the Sony XDCAM-HD disc based format as our prime acquisition format. Lately there seems to be a fair amount of EX-3 footage finding our way into our workflow. As
others have mentioned, the XDCAM format is appealing to us for a variety of reasons:
cost, convenience and quality.

The most important of these reasons is convenience. Seriously. If you're talking about thousands and thousands of hours of media, then any small advantage becomes a big deal. With XDCAM, the disc IS your archive source. For EX footage, we immediately tranfer to XDCAM DATA discs and that becomes our archiveable media.

But the biggest factor for us is the ability to digitize FASTER than realtime. Since it's file based, you can bring it onto your SAN faster than realtime. If you use multiple PDW-U1's, you can bring in multiple streams simultaneously, and THAT is a big deal.

We've set up what I call the "Digital Sponge" or the "Digital Quicker Picker Upper". It's a combo of ten mac Mini's, a Mac Pro and twenty PDW-U1's. We can ingest twenty streams of XDCAM video at once. Translation: what used to take days now can be completed in one 24 hr cycle. For us, this is the ONLY way that we can keep up with the massive amounts of media coming in from production. This set up would not be practical with any other format. (Well, maybe P2, but then you'd still have the archive issue).

Mark

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, RT <huipro@...> wrote:
>
> I would favor the EX3 but some might find the Panasonic Monopiece
> designs easier to squeeze in (and out) of tight spots.
>
> Love the EX3 quality, but there are other considerations here.
>
> A friend of mine, who has been shooting active volcano footage for
> decades, swears that you should only carry a camera that you are willing
> to ditch without hesitation!
>
> RT
>
>
>
> Rupert Watson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > If you are sitting in the back of a police car, people I know who do
> > that for a living all seem to favour the Sony EX3.
> >
> > The small form factor means you can lean forward and shoot between the
> > front seats, whereas the larger, shoulder mounted, cameras make this a
> > lot harder and the footage has a more remote-from- the-action feel.
> >
> > Rupert Watson
> >
> > +447787554801
> >
> > www.root6.com
> >
> > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>
> > [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Multimediac
> > Sent: 09 February 2010 00:16
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Reality TV Formats
> >
> > I worked on 5 reality shows last year... all were shot on either
> > Panasonic P2 or Sony EX
> >
> > Yeah... I'd say stay away from HDV.
> >
> > george
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[Avid-L2] Re: Relink AMA

The Link to New Volume would not work but since I could see the "corrupted" files the P2CMS viewer, I ingested them via the viewer. The copies made from the P2CMS viewer would link in AVID...

V
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "videovq" <vq@...> wrote:
>
> I am doing my first project with AMA - We shot with P2 with the AVC 100 codec 1920 by 1080 P - 23.97.
> I am editing on MC Soft Version 4.02 on an Intel Mac 2 x3 GHz Dual Core running OSX.5.7.
>
> I was on location for the first four days and I simply copied the entire contents of each Card (3 cameras) into separate folders. I decided that I wanted to consolidate the media to AVID storage since I have an Esata RAID internally and I didn't want to re-link every morning... So I have been linking to AMA volumes - then consolidating all the clips to AVID storage. Also I was hoping to work with the full resolution clips...
>
> The problem is that on the first day I wasn't there to transfer the cards ---the clips are not relinking. All five folders from that day show the clips but I cant get the media to link.
>
> Even though i have read Paul Sampson's excellent PDF on AVID Editing Systems and Panasonic P2 File based workflows -- I am not sure what you mean by a quick load of a "new" AMA volume... There seems to be some corruption that I can't fix..
>
> Any advice would be appreciated...
> Thank you in advance for any help in this matter...
>
> Virginia Quesada
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Curtis Nichols <curtisnpcs@> wrote:
> >
> > I had one AMA project that had one clip that would go offline whenever I would restart the computer. A quick load of a "new" AMA volume fixed it every time.
> >
> > Curtis Nichols
> > Señor Editor
> > PCS Production Co.
> > Irving, Tx.
> > ------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Raj Rodrigues <raj.rodrigues@>
> >
> >
> > Is this frequent enough to be a PITA? What build of sw/hw are you on? Does
> > Avid know? Luckily we haven't seen any of this around here as yet. Good to
> > know though.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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[Avid-L2] FR: disabling new keyboard feature 'Entering Timecode changes'?

Hi all, Avid has added a new feature in v4 :

"If using a laptop or computer without a dedicated numeric keypad, you can press and release the left Ctrl key twice quickly to use standard number keys to enter timecode."

The downside of this is, if you actually use the CTRL key for other purposes like snapping to edits, you might find the timecode window often popping up interrupting your happy journey through the timeline.

Arguably I could avoid pressing CTRL twice quickly, but it'd be nice to turn this feature off since I have a full-sized keyboard with numeric pad. Any suggestions or should I submit this as a de-feature request?

Thanks,

Bruce Rees
www.ppd.ca

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[Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

We use the Sony XDCAM-HD disc based format as our prime acquisition format. Lately there seems to be a fair amount of EX-3 footage finding our way into our workflow. As
others have mentioned, the XDCAM format is appealing to us for a variety of reasons:
cost, convenience and quality.

The most important of these reasons is convenience. Seriously. If you're talking about thousands and thousands of hours of media, then any small advantage becomes a big deal. With XDCAM, the disc IS your archive source. For EX footage, we immediately tranfer to XDCAM DATA discs and that becomes our archiveable media.

But the biggest factor for us is the ability to digitize FASTER than realtime. Since it's file based, you can bring it onto your SAN faster than realtime. If you use multiple PDW-U1's, you can bring in multiple streams simultaneously, and THAT is a big deal.

We've set up what I call the "Digital Sponge" or the "Digital Quicker Picker Upper". It's a combo of ten mac Mini's, a Mac Pro and twenty PDW-U1's. We can ingest twenty streams of XDCAM video at once. Translation: what used to take days now can be completed in one 24 hr cycle. For us, this is the ONLY way that we can keep up with the massive amounts of media coming in from production. This set up would not be practical with any other format. (Well, maybe P2, but then you'd still have the archive issue).

Mark

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, RT <huipro@...> wrote:
>
> I would favor the EX3 but some might find the Panasonic Monopiece
> designs easier to squeeze in (and out) of tight spots.
>
> Love the EX3 quality, but there are other considerations here.
>
> A friend of mine, who has been shooting active volcano footage for
> decades, swears that you should only carry a camera that you are willing
> to ditch without hesitation!
>
> RT
>
>
>
> Rupert Watson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > If you are sitting in the back of a police car, people I know who do
> > that for a living all seem to favour the Sony EX3.
> >
> > The small form factor means you can lean forward and shoot between the
> > front seats, whereas the larger, shoulder mounted, cameras make this a
> > lot harder and the footage has a more remote-from-the-action feel.
> >
> > Rupert Watson
> >
> > +447787554801
> >
> > www.root6.com
> >
> > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Multimediac
> > Sent: 09 February 2010 00:16
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Reality TV Formats
> >
> > I worked on 5 reality shows last year... all were shot on either
> > Panasonic P2 or Sony EX
> >
> > Yeah... I'd say stay away from HDV.
> >
> > george
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

This is the way we are working with the EX. If you get the SxS adapter
that allows you to use cheap flash memory, you just paper clip the chip
to the client's file in your file cabinet. Instant archive, and more
stable than what I was doing - which was buying hard drives every time I
saw them on sale.

Mark

<http://www.sr-pro.com/>

On 2/9/10 12:08 AM, John McClary wrote:
>
> If you prove the time-savings inherent in file-based import, the
> advantage of HDV during production probably goes away (archiving
> aside). And if Bunim Murray works with EX, then there's a good
> reason.....
>
> John McClary
>
> --- On Mon, 2/8/10, johnrobmoore <bigfish@pacbell.net
> <mailto:bigfish%40pacbell.net>> wrote:
>
> From: johnrobmoore <bigfish@pacbell.net <mailto:bigfish%40pacbell.net>>
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 9:25 PM
>
>
>
> Along the same lines I had a great experience with an HDV series. 60
> half hour episodes and maybe one tape hit from the HDV using an HVR
> 1500 over the entire season. Sure there are flaws to the format but
> nobody at home or the network which was part of Discovery had a
> problems with the footage. When your done you have tapes you can dub
> or just send to the network. Where I'm at now 6 months after finishing
> a series done on AVCCam, the consumer format, they are still working
> on archiving the HD media onto LTO. We got the show done but the
> archival delivery side is just a nightmare. My gut would be if you go
> file based make it XDCam or EX and use the cheap cards with the
> adapter so the cards are just like tape. No copying to drive arrays
> etc in the field. That's the way I understand Bunim Murray is working
> with the EX.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, "Bouke" <bouke@...> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Nope,
>
> > If you can, have the shooters use the format that's most profitable
> to you.
>
> > (I don't care a rats ass how it's going to look like, and with me,
> nobody
>
> > does....)
>
> > It's work, not art....
>
> >
>
> > Bouke
>
> >
>
> > VideoToolShed
>
> > van Oldenbarneveltstraa t 33
>
> > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>
> > The Netherlands
>
> > +31 24 3553311
>
> > www.videotoolshed. com
>
> > For large files:
>
> > http://dropbox. yousendit. com/BoukeVahl998 172
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@... >
>
> > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com>
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:39 AM
>
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If you can, shoot either DVCPROHD or XDCAM Discs.
>
> >
>
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, "Peter Jay Gould" <petegould@> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi All,
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > I'm involved in a pitch for a reality tv show. Imagine something
> shot in
>
> > > the style of COPS both in terms of acquisition and editorial
> approach and
>
> > > also shoots that happen all over the country, multiple crews in
> different
>
> > > locations, etc. An initial 26 episodes will be produced.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > What's the current consensus regarding a good HD acquisition
> format on a
>
> > > direct-to-cable budget? Trying to steer them away from HDV
> although it's
>
> > > being pushed for cost reasons.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Pete
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> > >
>
> >
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Bill Nye sighting

Growing up in Smell-A (ok, Orange County, but I did commute to Hollyweird)
does give you a different take on celebrities. I went to H.S. with one of
John Wayne's kids (Kelly McGillis was three classes ahead of me) and nobody
made a big deal about it. I do still remember The Duke coming in to the
pharmacy where I worked in H.S. Here I am stocking stuff behind the counter,
when I hear that voice. I look up and there he was yakking with my boss. He
was taller in real life than in the movies.

Prepared me for working in the industry. It takes a lot for me to look at
actors (celebrities or not) and anything else but working shmoes. So do work
more than others, and most got paid better than me.

sigh...

Quinton Lee, MIS
Q.A. Lee Consulting
Helping People and Technology Work Together

In a message dated 2/8/2010 6:01:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Ben@ContactBen.com writes:

That's one of the perks of living the L.A. area... seeing familiar
faces at the grocery store (e.g. Ed Begley, Jr. at Costco), at the
corner cafe (e.g. William Shatner in Studio City) or in the car behind
you (e.g. Tony Curtis). Every time this happens to me I think, "yep,
that'd happen in Wisconsin" (where I'm from).

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Re: [Avid-L2] A BluRay Recorder at last

On 9. feb. 2010, at 14.29, rusesculaurentiu@yahoo.com wrote:

> http://www.frontnic he.com/IBCAnimat ion/downloads/ BDPV6000. pdf
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

This is not the JVC one, this is the player we've discussed before.

K

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Re: [Avid-L2] A BluRay Recorder at last

http://www.frontnic he.com/IBCAnimat ion/downloads/ BDPV6000. pdf
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From: "Knut A. Helgeland" <knut@toxic.no>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:41:45
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Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] A BluRay Recorder at last

FrontNiche has apparently just released modified versions of the JVC SR-HD1500/SR-HD1250 Blu-Ray + HDD recorders, with HDSDI in/out.

Cannot find any info yet on their useless Flash- site.

K


On 20. jan. 2010, at 23.00, Job ter Burg (L2B) wrote:

> "tcurren" (20-01-2010 22:26) :
>
>> Guess someone was listening:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/y8c8kzr
>
> Terry,
>
> Pretty sure that these only have HDSDI outputs.
>
>
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RE: [Avid-L2] A BluRay Recorder at last

You could ping Steve on stephenatfrontniche.com
<mailto:stephen@frontniche.com>

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Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] A BluRay Recorder at last

FrontNiche has apparently just released modified versions of the JVC
SR-HD1500/SR-HD1250 Blu-Ray + HDD recorders, with HDSDI in/out.

Cannot find any info yet on their useless Flash- site.

K

On 20. jan. 2010, at 23.00, Job ter Burg (L2B) wrote:

> "tcurren" (20-01-2010 22:26) :
>
>> Guess someone was listening:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/y8c8kzr
>
> Terry,
>
> Pretty sure that these only have HDSDI outputs.
>
>
> --
> Job ter Burg
> film editor - NL

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[Avid-L2] Re: Avid Nitris Digital Cut for more than 8 audio tracks

You have been able to output 16 tracks of audio for a few versions now. You need to use the embedded SDI to achieve this as there aren't 16 audio outs on the Avid boxes.

go into your audio project settings and under "output" check the 16 channels box. Then you will have the option of mapping all your channels.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Arthur" <ehlabs_ak_yahoo@...> wrote:
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> Does an instruction sheet or white paper exist that explains how to output digital cut to more than 8 tracks of digital audio to a Sony SR in 1 pass... and can this be done in Assemble mode?
>
> I have to do this for 9 tracks of audio Tue morning.
>
> Thanks for your help.
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[Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

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<< And if Bunim Murray works with EX, then there's a good reason..... >>

They use XDCAM Discs. And they have an impressive multi deck ingest system. But I'll let Mark talk about that.

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[Avid-L2] Re: OT: Bill Nye sighting

I actually found a way too. Same show (Reading Rainbow) different year (05). I don't remember whether Bill Nye was nominated that year.

Make sure you get custody. They're hard to get back. And Nye has plenty of them. He doesn't need yours.

;-)

Tony

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> Guess it wasn't an honor just being nominated. Along the same lines my wife ended up with my emmy in the 80's when I was nominated not once but twice in the same category for my swim suit specials. At least I found a way to get the emmy into my house. If she leaves me for the Science Casanova maybe I'll make sure I get custody of the emmy. ;-)
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Breuer" <tonybreuer@> wrote:
> >
> > I want seconds on his effin' pocket protector. I hate Bill Nye. The sum-of-a-stitch snapped up not one, but TWO effin' editing Emmys from me in the nineties when I was cutting Reading Rainbow.
> >
> > AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!
> >
> > I feel better now.
> >
> > Tony Breuer
> >
>

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[Avid-L2] Re:

http://www.frontniche.com/IBCAnimation/downloads/BDPV6000.pdf

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RE: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Bill Nye sighting

"He was showing my wife how his rain down spouts drain into an underground
device that helps distribute the rain water."

He was showing your wife his down spout? Man, you need to be worried.

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Re: [Avid-L2] A BluRay Recorder at last

FrontNiche has apparently just released modified versions of the JVC SR-HD1500/SR-HD1250 Blu-Ray + HDD recorders, with HDSDI in/out.

Cannot find any info yet on their useless Flash- site.

K

On 20. jan. 2010, at 23.00, Job ter Burg (L2B) wrote:

> "tcurren" (20-01-2010 22:26) :
>
>> Guess someone was listening:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/y8c8kzr
>
> Terry,
>
> Pretty sure that these only have HDSDI outputs.
>
>
> --
> Job ter Burg
> film editor - NL

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: DNxHD QuckTime FCP Import Question

Knut,
thanks.
Most important:
"The plug-in will convert EOS MOVIE footage to Apple's high quality ProRes
422 codec at approximately twice the speed of Apple's standard conversion."

But, this is an Avid list :-)

I'll pick up the challenge and make the same for Avid. (That will keep me
shut up for a while...)

Bouke

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Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: DNxHD QuckTime FCP Import Question

"Will be made available for testing and evaluation in March 2010"

http://is.gd/7ZAW4

K

On 9. feb. 2010, at 08.47, Bouke wrote:

> Well, it was an announcement.
> But afaik, the only thing it does is adding metadata to the import.
> With QTchange you already have TC and Reel info, (it could do more, but i
> don't see the relevance of having your ISO settings in a bin....)
> so i'm not holding my breath this plugin willl solve all trouble.
>
> Bouke
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@oliverpeters.com>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:51 AM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: DNxHD QuckTime FCP Import Question
>
>
> David,
>
>> David Dawkins wrote:
>> Canon launches Final Cut Pro plug-in to work with EOS digital SLRs
>
> Yes I did. Have you noticed there's no actual said plug-in from Canon to
> be
> found on that page ?
>
> - Oliver
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: DNxHD QuckTime FCP Import Question

"Will be made available for testing and evaluation in March 2010"

http://is.gd/7ZAW4

K

On 9. feb. 2010, at 08.47, Bouke wrote:

> Well, it was an announcement.
> But afaik, the only thing it does is adding metadata to the import.
> With QTchange you already have TC and Reel info, (it could do more, but i
> don't see the relevance of having your ISO settings in a bin....)
> so i'm not holding my breath this plugin willl solve all trouble.
>
> Bouke
>
> VideoToolShed
> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> The Netherlands
> +31 24 3553311
> www.videotoolshed.com
> For large files:
> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "oliverpetersvidy" <oliverpeters@oliverpeters.com>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:51 AM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: DNxHD QuckTime FCP Import Question
>
>
> David,
>
>> David Dawkins wrote:
>> Canon launches Final Cut Pro plug-in to work with EOS digital SLRs
>
> Yes I did. Have you noticed there's no actual said plug-in from Canon to be
> found on that page ?
>
> - Oliver
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: DNxHD QuckTime FCP Import Question

Well, it was an announcement.
But afaik, the only thing it does is adding metadata to the import.
With QTchange you already have TC and Reel info, (it could do more, but i
don't see the relevance of having your ISO settings in a bin....)
so i'm not holding my breath this plugin willl solve all trouble.

Bouke

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:51 AM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: DNxHD QuckTime FCP Import Question

David,

> David Dawkins wrote:
> Canon launches Final Cut Pro plug-in to work with EOS digital SLRs

Yes I did. Have you noticed there's no actual said plug-in from Canon to be
found on that page ?

- Oliver

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[Avid-L2] Avid Nitris Digital Cut for more than 8 audio tracks

Does an instruction sheet or white paper exist that explains how to output digital cut to more than 8 tracks of digital audio to a Sony SR in 1 pass... and can this be done in Assemble mode?

I have to do this for 9 tracks of audio Tue morning.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: DNxHD QuckTime FCP Import Question

In the postings I saw yesterday there seemed to be some confusion about
whether it was here or yet to come. I did not pay any attention at the
time. I figured it will be out in lots of time for other folk (Oliver)
to face it and let me know about any snags before I need it, if I need it.

Thanks Oliver,

DD

PS just took a look at the links to Apple and Canon from the original
page, no dl there either.

oliverpetersvidy wrote:
>
>
> David,
>
> > David Dawkins wrote:
> > Canon launches Final Cut Pro plug-in to work with EOS digital SLRs
>
> Yes I did. Have you noticed there's no actual said plug-in from Canon
> to be found on that page ?
>
> - Oliver
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

If you prove the time-savings inherent in file-based import, the advantage of HDV during production probably goes away (archiving aside). And if Bunim Murray works with EX, then there's a good reason.....

John McClary

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, johnrobmoore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

From: johnrobmoore <bigfish@pacbell.net>
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 9:25 PM

 

Along the same lines I had a great experience with an HDV series. 60 half hour episodes and maybe one tape hit from the HDV using an HVR 1500 over the entire season. Sure there are flaws to the format but nobody at home or the network which was part of Discovery had a problems with the footage. When your done you have tapes you can dub or just send to the network. Where I'm at now 6 months after finishing a series done on AVCCam, the consumer format, they are still working on archiving the HD media onto LTO. We got the show done but the archival delivery side is just a nightmare. My gut would be if you go file based make it XDCam or EX and use the cheap cards with the adapter so the cards are just like tape. No copying to drive arrays etc in the field. That's the way I understand Bunim Murray is working with the EX.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, "Bouke" <bouke@...> wrote:

>

> Nope,

> If you can, have the shooters use the format that's most profitable to you.

> (I don't care a rats ass how it's going to look like, and with me, nobody

> does....)

> It's work, not art....

>

> Bouke

>

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@... >

> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:39 AM

> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Reality TV Formats

>

>

> If you can, shoot either DVCPROHD or XDCAM Discs.

>

> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, "Peter Jay Gould" <petegould@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi All,

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> >

> >

> > I'm involved in a pitch for a reality tv show. Imagine something shot in

> > the style of COPS both in terms of acquisition and editorial approach and

> > also shoots that happen all over the country, multiple crews in different

> > locations, etc. An initial 26 episodes will be produced.

> >

> >

> >

> > What's the current consensus regarding a good HD acquisition format on a

> > direct-to-cable budget? Trying to steer them away from HDV although it's

> > being pushed for cost reasons.

> >

> >

> >

> > Pete

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Avid-L2] Re: OT: Bill Nye sighting

Guess it wasn't an honor just being nominated. Along the same lines my wife ended up with my emmy in the 80's when I was nominated not once but twice in the same category for my swim suit specials. At least I found a way to get the emmy into my house. If she leaves me for the Science Casanova maybe I'll make sure I get custody of the emmy. ;-)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Breuer" <tonybreuer@...> wrote:
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> I want seconds on his effin' pocket protector. I hate Bill Nye. The sum-of-a-stitch snapped up not one, but TWO effin' editing Emmys from me in the nineties when I was cutting Reading Rainbow.
>
> AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!
>
> I feel better now.
>
> Tony Breuer
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