Sunday, June 17, 2018

[Avid-L2] File - FAQ AVID-L2.txt

 


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Background

Avid-L was established in 1994 at Calvin College by Steven Koster.
It was created to be a forum for Avid users to meet, discuss, and share
information.

Avid-L quickly grew into the premiere on-line users group for
professional film and video editors. It was one of the earliest examples

of an Internet community, allowing hundreds of editors worldwide to
share their experiences and expertise with their peers. There was no
better place for a professional Avid editor to get such wealth of
informed professional advice.

At various times, individual subscribers volunteered services to the
group. Searchable archives were maintained by Germany's Berlin Users
Group as well as the UIUC. A tips & tricks list was posted by Andy
Birkhead of Innovative Edit. Wes Plate, a longtime contributor, not only

shared key techniques on his Web site, he also created a photo gallery
for members' portraits.

In 1997, several subscribers began a tradition of meeting in person at
the NAB trade show in Las Vegas. The first gatherings were organized by Jaime Fowler. In 1999,
Avid Technology itself began sponsoring these gatherings as an exclusive reception and seminar for Avid-L members only. In 2002, this changed to the "Avid Users Group" meeting.

By 1999, Avid-L boasted over 1600 subscribers, exhibiting a true
international scope with over 300 international members. The community
included participants from a wide variety of well-known corporate
organizations in broadcasting, technical, and content creation fields,
as well as and multiple local TV stations, colleges, and universities.

In 2000, Avid-L joined AvidProNet.com, and then, in 2002, was integrated
Into Avid.com.

In 2005 Due to problems with signal to noise ratio and abusive posters, the Avid-L2 was formed. A year later the Avid-L was discontinued by Avid.

At the middle of 2006, the L2 has around 1100 members, with plenty of "lurker only" members who simply use the web version of the list. The L2 is spam-free, by moderation and with Yahoo's tools and will remain that way. The integrated archives with both old L and L2 posts came on line recently as well at the University of Illinois. That can be found at http://archives.itg.uiuc.edu/avid/.

Cross-posting to the FCP-L is welcome, tho reply's will not flow back to either list necessarily- check your own email reply preferences. The Final Cut list is found at: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/FinalCutPro-L

Welcome, and Enjoy!

Extras!
With a Yahoo account tied to your subscription to the Avid-L2, you can use the web features of the Group.

Calendar Various Avid events are in the Calender. If you have an event you'd like posted, pull down and fill out the Calendar event request and send it to any Moderator

Database - The database area contains Avid Feature requests, Help Wanted, Freelance Listings and For Sale sections. Feel free to add your listings to any of these areas. Job Postings will remain up for 1 month. Please date all postings to the database areas, being pertinent is a good way to be.

Files- The files section contains various sundry files, including the latest Avid release notes. Check back often for changes.

Photos - Pictures of your Avid setup are welcome, or pictures relating to a post you need a photo to explain. Photos will be posted after moderator approval. Who knows, your picture might grace the front page for a while.

Links- Various helpful links, including direct links to Avid CPR releases can be found here, also the link to the archives.

JDS

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Thursday, June 14, 2018

[Avid-L2] Avid Relinking Curiousity?

 

Today I'm re-exporting a series from 3 years ago using a back up drive.  I'm finding a handful of clips, roughly 15, are offline on each episode,  I locate the offline clips and try to relink the master clips to the back up drive but they just don't want to relink.  I have different volumes for each episode so in the first two episodes with this issues I mounted the volumes they were pointing to and those clips came online.  I then consolidate the supposedly missing or unlinkable media to the main volume for that episode.  This all worked but when I got episode 3 I stumbled on to a different approach that worked.

As I said I have a media volume for each episode so I was surprised when I had to mount other volumes to find the offline media.  When I online a series I keep tight media management and clip naming to facilitate Symphony's relational color correction.  Typically the last episode of a series will use footage from all the previous episodes so for the last episode the first thing I do is mount all the previous episodes media one at a time and relink the final show to a previous episode and consolidate the media from that show to the final shows dedicated volume.  This allows me to merge color correction from each episode and this usually gets close to 200 clips color corrected which is why it's worth the time. 

The other part of my workflow that seems pertinent is for each episode I go through the clips and add suffixes to the clip names to allow for more efficient relational color correction.  This way if a particular Clip has 20 .new decomposed clips and it covers multiple setups some of which have similar or the same color needs I can add a suffix to the clip name thereby grouping the clips for color correction by source clip name.  After I do this I then create a separate bin that I copy all the renamed clips to and I close it.  This is sort of an archive to protect the clip renaming.  I've found that sometimes when other stations open up the project and don't have my dedicated media mounted sometimes the clip names will revert to their original names.  When this happens the sequences will no longer have clips named the way I want them to and it makes the relational color corrector become unreliable.  When this happens I've found that if I open the archived clips bin while the main decompose bin is open it often overwrites the soft meta data of the clip names back to what I had originally renamed them to.

So when I got to the third episode with 15ish clips offline I tried to manually relink them to the archived media volume but most didn't relink.  I then reopened my archived bin and voila the clips popped online.  Clearly when I did my end of season color merging various clips in the main decompose bin got relinked to other episode volumes and for some reason even though the media exists on the dedicated back up volume the offline clips won't relink manually but will inherit the properties of the archived bin, which was never opened during the season finale color merge, and the offline clips magically relink.

I know this isn't magic but I'd sure like to understand why a manual relink doesn't work but opening the archive bin does.  I tried deselecting all the usual suspects in the relink window and made sure it would relink to media outside the project and also that it would relink to any video format.  I tried the same for the sequence itself.  Only opening the archive bin made them come online.  Strange.  I have done a lot of media management with Avid and tons of relinking but I still find quirks like this that make me wonder if I really understand what is really going on under the hood.  Some things fall in the category of .mob conflict, so I have been told, and that seems to relate to a lot of "soft metadata" like clip names.  Relinking still seems like voodoo science sometimes like today.

At least I have a fighting chance with Avid.  I'm not looking forward to tackling these type of issues in Adobe or Resolve but I guess it's all just a matter of time.

If anyone can shed some light on what's really going on when relinking doesn't work but opening an archive bin does I'd sure like to learn something new.
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018

[Avid-L2] OT: Looking for RED shooter in Denver - June 27 & 28

 

B-Roll and nat sound - no interviews.

2 person crew preferred.

Personal recommendations only - please no "I know a guy who knows a guy".

Please respond to me directly instead of spamming the list.

Thanks!!!

--
Tim McLaughlin
Final Cut, Avid and Premiere Pro Editor

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Re: [Avid-L2] Some things should just work

 

As far as I remember, edl manager was dropped when they rewrote the application for 64 bit code. Edl manager not being 64 bit makes it clunky.

Marcel



On 12/06/2018 16:33, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com [Avid-L2] wrote:
Yes I've done list tool lists and they work fine.  But client wanted an EDL to match the one I sent a few months ago (somehow miraculously using EDL manager I got one out).  I just got another one out to her but had to sacrifice a chicken to do it.

Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com
415-924-9411p

On Jun 12, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Lou is a name back from the "old school" Avid days.. I think the issue is that he's trying to do it with old technology and an old workflow. 

Call up your sequence. Click on the Tools menu. Pull down about two-thirds of the way down the menu to List Tool. Choose your format. Click the LOAD button. Click the Preview Button to see it and the Save List button to save it and you'll be done! Simple. The list tool is relatively similar to the old EDL Manager 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 4:07 PM, owen plotkin <owen@thenowcorporation.com> wrote: 
> 
> Wasn't the List tool intended as the replacement for the old edl manager anyway? It works fine for me. 
> owen 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> I agree that you use this list tool now. I made my last EDL a week ago in about 20 seconds 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Like the EDL manager app. I should be able to open it, find my seq and make an EDL. But this is the most inefficient, unreliable tool in Avid's arsenal. It is really a piece of work. At this point in the production schedule and workflow this is the last place I want to spend hours trying to simply send an EDL to my archivist or anyone else for that matter. "This is not a sequence" or "bin not recognized" errors for no apparent reason are not going to help me with this process. So I use the List Tool which I guess is a good alternative thank god as EDL manager simply sucks. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the vent 
>>> 
>>> Lou 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lou Wirth Productions 
>>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 
>>> Corte Madera, CA 94925 
>>> www.louwirth.com 
>>> 415-924-9411p 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 



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Tuesday, June 12, 2018

Re: [Avid-L2] Some things should just work

 

Yes I've done list tool lists and they work fine.  But client wanted an EDL to match the one I sent a few months ago (somehow miraculously using EDL manager I got one out).  I just got another one out to her but had to sacrifice a chicken to do it.


Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com
415-924-9411p

On Jun 12, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Lou is a name back from the "old school" Avid days.. I think the issue is that he's trying to do it with old technology and an old workflow. 

Call up your sequence. Click on the Tools menu. Pull down about two-thirds of the way down the menu to List Tool. Choose your format. Click the LOAD button. Click the Preview Button to see it and the Save List button to save it and you'll be done! Simple. The list tool is relatively similar to the old EDL Manager 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 4:07 PM, owen plotkin <owen@thenowcorporation.com> wrote: 
> 
> Wasn't the List tool intended as the replacement for the old edl manager anyway? It works fine for me. 
> owen 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> I agree that you use this list tool now. I made my last EDL a week ago in about 20 seconds 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Like the EDL manager app. I should be able to open it, find my seq and make an EDL. But this is the most inefficient, unreliable tool in Avid's arsenal. It is really a piece of work. At this point in the production schedule and workflow this is the last place I want to spend hours trying to simply send an EDL to my archivist or anyone else for that matter. "This is not a sequence" or "bin not recognized" errors for no apparent reason are not going to help me with this process. So I use the List Tool which I guess is a good alternative thank god as EDL manager simply sucks. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the vent 
>>> 
>>> Lou 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lou Wirth Productions 
>>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 
>>> Corte Madera, CA 94925 
>>> www.louwirth.com 
>>> 415-924-9411p 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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Posted by: Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com>
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.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Some things should just work

 

That may be.  Ive been in corporate world for the last several years and only now since back in docs I am needing EDLs.  I have not paid attention to that aspect of Avid's progression over the last few years.



Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com
415-924-9411p

On Jun 12, 2018, at 1:07 PM, owen plotkin <owen@thenowcorporation.com> wrote:

Wasn't the List tool intended as the replacement for the old edl manager anyway? It works fine for me.
owen


On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I agree that you use this list tool now. I made my last EDL a week ago in about 20 seconds


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Like the EDL manager app.  I should be able to open it, find my seq and make an EDL.  But this is the most inefficient, unreliable tool in Avid's arsenal.  It is really a piece of work.  At this point in the production schedule and workflow this is the last place I want to spend hours trying to simply send an EDL to my archivist or anyone else for that matter.  "This is not a sequence" or "bin not recognized" errors for no apparent reason are not going to help me with this process.   So I use the List Tool which I guess is a good alternative thank god as EDL manager simply sucks.



Thanks for the vent

Lou


Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com
415-924-9411p






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Posted by: Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com>
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this is the Avid-L2

.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Some things should just work

 

Lou is a name back from the "old school" Avid days.. I think the issue is that he's trying to do it with old technology and an old workflow.

Call up your sequence. Click on the Tools menu. Pull down about two-thirds of the way down the menu to List Tool. Choose your format. Click the LOAD button. Click the Preview Button to see it and the Save List button to save it and you'll be done! Simple. The list tool is relatively similar to the old EDL Manager

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 4:07 PM, owen plotkin <owen@thenowcorporation.com> wrote:
>
> Wasn't the List tool intended as the replacement for the old edl manager anyway? It works fine for me.
> owen
>
>
>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree that you use this list tool now. I made my last EDL a week ago in about 20 seconds
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Like the EDL manager app. I should be able to open it, find my seq and make an EDL. But this is the most inefficient, unreliable tool in Avid's arsenal. It is really a piece of work. At this point in the production schedule and workflow this is the last place I want to spend hours trying to simply send an EDL to my archivist or anyone else for that matter. "This is not a sequence" or "bin not recognized" errors for no apparent reason are not going to help me with this process. So I use the List Tool which I guess is a good alternative thank god as EDL manager simply sucks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the vent
>>>
>>> Lou
>>>
>>>
>>> Lou Wirth Productions
>>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
>>> www.louwirth.com
>>> 415-924-9411p
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Posted by: Steve Hullfish <steve@veralith.com>
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.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Some things should just work

 

Wasn't the List tool intended as the replacement for the old edl manager anyway? It works fine for me.
owen

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> I agree that you use this list tool now. I made my last EDL a week ago in about 20 seconds
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Like the EDL manager app. I should be able to open it, find my seq and make an EDL. But this is the most inefficient, unreliable tool in Avid's arsenal. It is really a piece of work. At this point in the production schedule and workflow this is the last place I want to spend hours trying to simply send an EDL to my archivist or anyone else for that matter. "This is not a sequence" or "bin not recognized" errors for no apparent reason are not going to help me with this process. So I use the List Tool which I guess is a good alternative thank god as EDL manager simply sucks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the vent
>>
>> Lou
>>
>>
>> Lou Wirth Productions
>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
>> www.louwirth.com
>> 415-924-9411p
>>
>>
>
>

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Posted by: owen plotkin <owen@thenowcorporation.com>
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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

this is the Avid-L2

.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Some things should just work

 

I agree that you use this list tool now. I made my last EDL a week ago in about 20 seconds

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Like the EDL manager app.  I should be able to open it, find my seq and make an EDL.  But this is the most inefficient, unreliable tool in Avid's arsenal.  It is really a piece of work.  At this point in the production schedule and workflow this is the last place I want to spend hours trying to simply send an EDL to my archivist or anyone else for that matter.  "This is not a sequence" or "bin not recognized" errors for no apparent reason are not going to help me with this process.   So I use the List Tool which I guess is a good alternative thank god as EDL manager simply sucks.



Thanks for the vent

Lou


Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com
415-924-9411p

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Posted by: Steve Hullfish <steve@veralith.com>
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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.

this is the Avid-L2

.

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