Saturday, November 23, 2013

RE: Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?

 

---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <stuart.lawn@...> wrote:


" And they still haven't updated the title tool in all these years :-)" 


Perfect!

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Re: [Avid-L2] Motion Control cannot be created

 

Try dropping the preset 'Trim to Fill' on to the clip after it's been promoted. Otherwise, move it to an empty video track and adjust the speed until it suits.


On 23 Nov 2013, at 21:09, Dan McCabe wrote:

 

I guess that's my complaint. It would seem that implicit in asking for "fit to fill" one is asking to promote the motion adapter to a motion effect and to change the effect to the right speed to accomplish the fit to fill. Just seems like dopey programming not to just do it.
 
Looking for a tip here - Once one has edited the clip in, opened the motion effect window, promoted the effect, what's the fastest way to accomplish the "fit to fill" (other than guestimating and adjusting)?
 
D.
 
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013, at 02:13 PM, tcurren@aol.com wrote:
 
 

Until you "promote" the non native frame rate clip it is locked by Avid with the specific motion adapter they have chosen. 



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <danlist@...> wrote:

All knowing List,

Why is it that if one tries to do a "fit to fill" using media that is at
a non-native frame rate, the Avid rejects you with the message:

A motion control cannot be created from a clip with a non-native frame
rate. You must open a project matching this clip's frame rate to make a
motion control from it.

But if you edit the same clip into the same non-matching fps sequence
you can promote it to a Time Warp and change its speed?

Shouldn't the Avid be smart enough to figure out the "fit to fill"? It
is basically saying "Take these frames as indicated by the marks in the
source window and spread them between these two points in the sequence."

Is there something I'm missing here?

D.
 
 


With best wishes,
Roger Shufflebottom
+44 7973 543 660



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Re: [Avid-L2] RE: Motion Control cannot be created

 

I guess that's my complaint. It would seem that implicit in asking for "fit to fill" one is asking to promote the motion adapter to a motion effect and to change the effect to the right speed to accomplish the fit to fill. Just seems like dopey programming not to just do it.
 
Looking for a tip here - Once one has edited the clip in, opened the motion effect window, promoted the effect, what's the fastest way to accomplish the "fit to fill" (other than guestimating and adjusting)?
 
D.
 
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013, at 02:13 PM, tcurren@aol.com wrote:
 

 

Until you "promote" the non native frame rate clip it is locked by Avid with the specific motion adapter they have chosen. 



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <danlist@...> wrote:

All knowing List,

Why is it that if one tries to do a "fit to fill" using media that is at
a non-native frame rate, the Avid rejects you with the message:

A motion control cannot be created from a clip with a non-native frame
rate. You must open a project matching this clip's frame rate to make a
motion control from it.

But if you edit the same clip into the same non-matching fps sequence
you can promote it to a Time Warp and change its speed?

Shouldn't the Avid be smart enough to figure out the "fit to fill"? It
is basically saying "Take these frames as indicated by the marks in the
source window and spread them between these two points in the sequence."

Is there something I'm missing here?

D.

 

 

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Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?

 


On 23 Nov 2013, at 18:21, "Alan Miller" <ammfx@yahoo.com> wrote:

"I was in that hotel room too. I have the alpha disk and many beta versions too."

- And they still haven't updated the title tool in all these years :-)

Stuart

Jeff Krebs <rockinjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
hee hee hee 
yes Top Gun edited on the Avid 1 Media Composer.

ok not really
I'm pretty sure only myself, Alan Miller, Steve Hullfish and maybe even Terry were around to enjoy this demo
Who was actually born on this list to run the Avid 1 Media Composer? I ran beta 0.98 before the Media Composer was released to the public (number 003)

Saw it in a hotel room in 1988.


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Re: Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?

 

I was in that hotel room too. I have the alpha disk and many beta versions too.
That Top Gun demo blew me away. Of course the pictures were a half inch wide running at, I believe, seven frames a second.
My serial number was 001.
Unfortunately,I sold it years ago.
Alan


Ammedit@gmail

Jeff Krebs <rockinjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
hee hee hee 
yes Top Gun edited on the Avid 1 Media Composer.

ok not really
I'm pretty sure only myself, Alan Miller, Steve Hullfish and maybe even Terry were around to enjoy this demo
Who was actually born on this list to run the Avid 1 Media Composer? I ran beta 0.98 before the Media Composer was released to the public (number 003)

Saw it in a hotel room in 1988.


--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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RE: Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?

 

Hey Jeff, what did a T-Rex really look like? ;-)



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <rockinjeff@...> wrote:

oh yes  -- we had this discussion on another forum. 
You're the same age as me.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:14 AM, Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@...> wrote:
 

I had my training on MC v1 :)

Sent by magic over t'interweb



> On 23 Nov 2013, at 09:57, Jeff Krebs <rockinjeff@...> wrote:
>
> Who was actually born on this list to run the Avid 1 Media Composer?

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RE: Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?

 

Howard Brock, (Founder of Matchframe video) won an Emmy for editing FAME the TV show on Montage. 



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <guanacaa@...> wrote:

That is truly amazing. Back when I saw it, it was primarily for 30 second spots. We had one feature narrative client editor try to use it, and her experience was basically disastrous. Kudos to those pioneering filmmakers who made it work.

Shirley


-----Original Message-----
From: tcurren <tcurren@...>
To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 7:22 pm
Subject: RE: Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?



Not sure about Top Gun, but Full Metal Jacket, Sweet Liberty and Making Mr. Right were all cut on Montage. That won the 1987 Scientific and Engineering Academy Award for the "Montage Picture Processor". 


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <guanacaa@...> wrote:

Montage! The old, betamax deck, Rube Goldberg thingy? 

Help!

Shirley


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@...>
To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?



Montage possibly or EdiFlex

Those would both be the correct vintage... VHS/computer systems... You could stretch this to the CMX6000 I think

Later they had the videodisk based editing systems.

Steve Hullfish






On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:52 PM, David Kuther <avidkut@...> wrote:

 

On Monday night I saw a documentary on TCM about films in the '80s.

The filmmaker said that the 1986 movie Top Gun was cut on a computer.

Does anyone know if that's true?

If so was it an Edit Droid or something?

Thx.

David






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Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?

 

That is truly amazing. Back when I saw it, it was primarily for 30 second spots. We had one feature narrative client editor try to use it, and her experience was basically disastrous. Kudos to those pioneering filmmakers who made it work.


Shirley


-----Original Message-----
From: tcurren <tcurren@aol.com>
To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 7:22 pm
Subject: RE: Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?



Not sure about Top Gun, but Full Metal Jacket, Sweet Liberty and Making Mr. Right were all cut on Montage. That won the 1987 Scientific and Engineering Academy Award for the "Montage Picture Processor". 


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <guanacaa@...> wrote:

Montage! The old, betamax deck, Rube Goldberg thingy? 

Help!

Shirley


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@...>
To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?



Montage possibly or EdiFlex

Those would both be the correct vintage... VHS/computer systems... You could stretch this to the CMX6000 I think

Later they had the videodisk based editing systems.

Steve Hullfish






On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:52 PM, David Kuther <avidkut@...> wrote:

 

On Monday night I saw a documentary on TCM about films in the '80s.

The filmmaker said that the 1986 movie Top Gun was cut on a computer.

Does anyone know if that's true?

If so was it an Edit Droid or something?

Thx.

David






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[Avid-L2] Unable to change to non yahoo mail.

 

Hello,


I am a new member to this forum and would like to change my yahoo mail to non yahoo address just to receive all Avid Group Emails, I added the other email address to my yahoo ID but still when I click on edit membership I won't see my other email that I want to send all mails from Avid Group. 

Please help me thanks.
Surya

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Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?

 

oh yes  -- we had this discussion on another forum. 
You're the same age as me.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:14 AM, Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@hdheaven.co.uk> wrote:
 

I had my training on MC v1 :)

Sent by magic over t'interweb



> On 23 Nov 2013, at 09:57, Jeff Krebs <rockinjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Who was actually born on this list to run the Avid 1 Media Composer?


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Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?

 

I had my training on MC v1 :)

Sent by magic over t'interweb

> On 23 Nov 2013, at 09:57, Jeff Krebs <rockinjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Who was actually born on this list to run the Avid 1 Media Composer?

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Re: Re: [Avid-L2] Top Gun edited on a computer?

 

hee hee hee 
yes Top Gun edited on the Avid 1 Media Composer.

ok not really
I'm pretty sure only myself, Alan Miller, Steve Hullfish and maybe even Terry were around to enjoy this demo
Who was actually born on this list to run the Avid 1 Media Composer? I ran beta 0.98 before the Media Composer was released to the public (number 003)

Saw it in a hotel room in 1988.

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Friday, November 22, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] Embedded Data Export

 

Hi Seth, to my knowledge, the only format that Avid can export with embedded captions is XDCAM MXF OP1a

cheers,
BG



From: Seth Isaac Buncher <seth_buncher@hotmail.com>
To: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com" <avid-l2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:42 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Embedded Data Export

 
Hi y'all,

I need to make a prorez QT with embedded captioning for delivery to a network. Assuming I switch to a Mac and get AAF caption files, can Avid even export that data? Or do I have to go to tape first?

Thanks in advance!

Warmly on a cold night,
Seth


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